Forum:Robot Arena 2 - Robot Wars Wiki

I was talking to Thyrus, and we came up with the idea of having a tournament on Robot Arena 2 for members of the wiki. Basically, you need to make a replica of a Robot Wars competitor and upload the bot file here. Then, give the link to me. If it can be AI'ed, I'd appreciate it, but I can AI if I have to. Once everything's sorted, I shall pass on what I need to to RA2, who will film them.

=I don't have the game! I can't get involved!=

Never fear. If you don't have RA2, simply say a Robot Wars robot you'd like to enter and wouldn't be too hard for us to replicate. To make it easier for us, choose one that you know we have already made. Post a few second choices too; not every replica is doable.

Rules

 * The arena will be the Robot Wars one (If there are objections about the hazards, someone please say)
 * No robots already replicated in DSL can be replicated.
 * Replicas can be made with DSL or Stock Components. AI and cheatbot2 parts are allowed as well.
 * No custom components.
 * Robots not replicated in DSL but had their components made cannot be replicated either. Examples of this include Fluffy (Due to Fluffy's blade).
 * Replicas may not have more weapons than its original counterpart. Offenses include covering a robot in spikes that it didn't have, or equipping a flywheel with more teeth than the original had.

Weight Class
What has not been decided yet is the weight class. It can either be HW or MW. Please submit your votes here:

HW

 * Helloher (I told Thyrus MW, but changed my mind)
 * RA2 (Said in talk page)
 * Thyrus (Just PM'ed me to say so)

MW
-- Squirrel Monkey   (talk)  19:52, November 30, 2009 (UTC) I made 13 Black

Results
With three of the four people making their own replicas voting for HW and only one for MW, the tournament will be HW.

Competitors
Enter your name and replica's name below:

With RA2

 * Helloher - Disc-O-Inferno - AI'ed
 * RA2 - PulverizeR - AI'ed
 * SquirrelMonkey - The Alien - AI'ed
 * Thyrus - Delldog - AI'ed

Without RA2
- RA2 is doing.
 * Christophee - I have the game but I don't really know how to create decent replicas. I'd like to request the Series 7 version of X-Terminator that RA2 is making for me. Christophee (talk) 13:58, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

- Helloher has done and AI'ed.
 * Llamaman201 - Would like Scorpion (Latest model).


 * CBFan - Could you try Killer Carrot 2 (latest model)? CBFan (talk) 15:46, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

- RA2 is doing


 * ManUCrazy - Can I enter with the series 7 version of The Grim Reaper please? ManUCrazy 18:31, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

- Ach, we run into a bit of a problem there. RA2 once mentioned that he struggled to make it. That won't stop me from having a go, but I can make no promises. Can we have a second choice in case we cannot please?  Helloher    (Death is not my phone number)  18:45, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

Second Choice - Iron Awe 2, which has already been made by RA2.


 * Toon Ganondorf - I would really like to see a replica of GBH 2, which is swiftly becoming one of my favourites. Unfortunately, my other favourites, Bulldog Breed and Firestorm, are unable to be used, so I'm going to go ask for Team Joint Effort's latest machine. If not, could you pull together a powerful version of Facet?  Toon Ganondorf    (t    c)  21:52, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

- RA2 has already made a replica of GBH 2, so you should be ready to go TG.  Helloher    (Death is not my phone number)  22:04, December 2, 2009 (UTC)


 * Picnic Attack - I told him about the tournament and he would like to enter Mousetrap. It could replace one of the byebots. As RA2 has already made Mousetrap, it should be fine.  Helloher    (Death is not my phone number)  17:00, December 3, 2009 (UTC)

Format
We have nine competitors, which is a slightly odd number. However, that shouldn't stop us.

I have three suggestions for the format and any other suggestions are welcome.

1) We quickly throw together some 'byebots' to bring the numbers up to 12. Then, we do four three way rumbles, with the winner of each progressing to the final.

2) Each robot faces all 8 others. It would take longer, but is the most fair method.

3) Two robots are randomly selected for a wildcard match to determine 8 competitors. The competition is then played out like a Series 7 heat.

Other suggestions are welcome. Please specify which format you would prefer. I will not vote.  Helloher    (Death is not my phone number)  22:04, December 2, 2009 (UTC)


 * I think we should pull together some byebots, preferably some like Disconstructor or other robots we never saw in full. It'd be nice, I think, to see some of those.  Toon Ganondorf    (t    c)  22:50, December 2, 2009 (UTC)


 * I do like the idea of everyone facing everyone else, but I doubt that RA2 would want to do that many battles. The byebots idea is my second choice. Christophee (talk) 14:37, December 3, 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for understanding; the "everyone vs everyone" format would require me to film thirty-six battles; I doubt you guys would even want to watch that many. How about we have 12 robots and do it in the style of Dutch Series 1, only with the losers' melee winners switching places? R A 2 ; aka Resetti's Replicas.  ( My Talk ) 16:49, December 3, 2009 (UTC)


 * That is an excellent idea. I've always liked that format because it means that every robot gets at least two battles instead of possibly going out after one. Christophee (talk) 16:54, December 3, 2009 (UTC)


 * Agreed. Thyrus voted for the wildcard method, but I'm sure he would like it. I'll ask him.  Helloher    (Death is not my phone number)  16:58, December 3, 2009 (UTC)

Well the byebot system is ok for me. I changed my entry from The Big Cheese to Delldog. I don`t like it that much but It`s better in this than Big Cheese. --Thyrus 17:11, December 3, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, lets throw in a couple more maybe like Disconstructor and Hodaf The Bad (if they can be done). ManUCrazy 17:16, December 3, 2009 (UTC)

I agree-- Squirrel Monkey   (talk)  17:24, December 3, 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't know about Hodaf, but Disconstructor is possible.  Helloher    (Death is not my phone number)  17:34, December 3, 2009 (UTC)


 * It doesn't really matter, its a filler robot so any robot that fits the rules is fine. ManUCrazy 17:38, December 3, 2009 (UTC)


 * I got The big Cheese and Plunderbird 5 as byebots if anyone wants to see them in this tournament. Thyrus 17:48, December 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree with using those two. ManUCrazy 17:37, December 4, 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm fine with using them both. Any objections?  Helloher    (Death is not my phone number)  17:53, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

Byebots
Nominate any byebots here:


 * Disconstructor
 * Tut Tut - Made by Helloher
 * The Big Cheese - Made by Thyrus
 * Plunderbird 5 - Made by Thyrus
 * Bodyhammer - Too powerful and unrealistic (I'm good at selling my ideas aren't I) - Made by SquirrelMonkey


 * Personally, I'd like to see The Big Cheese as one of our byebots. We never got to see it in action, but I loved the picture of it.  Helloher    (Death is not my phone number)  18:27, December 3, 2009 (UTC)


 * Is everybody okay with the skin I used for my Disc-O-Inferno replica? Also, the weapon, althought bigger than the one on it in real life, was the only one that worked for the weight limit. http://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/41783screenshot_26.bmp  Helloher    (Death is not my phone number)  19:15, December 3, 2009 (UTC)


 * Could be much better but I can't talk really-- Squirrel Monkey   (talk)  19:26, December 3, 2009 (UTC)

=Draw= I'm beginning the draw now, using this. First, I'll assign the byebots a group:


 * Group A: The Big Cheese
 * Group B: Plunderbird 5 (Unless there is huge objection)

Next, I'll assign five of the entrants into each heat:


 * Group A: The Big Cheese, PulverizeR, Mousetrap, The Alien, Killer Carrot 2, X-Terminator
 * Group B: Plunderbird 5, Delldog, Iron Awe 2, Scorpion, Disc-O-Inferno, G.B.H. 2

Now, I'll pair up each robot for battles:


 * Group A: Mousetrap vs X-Terminator, Killer Carrot 2 vs The Alien, PulverizeR vs The Big Cheese
 * Group B: Delldog vs G.B.H. 2, Scorpion vs Plunderbird 5, Iron Awe 2 vs Disc-O-Inferno

Finally, I'll work out who the winners of the losers' melees face:


 * Group A: The winner of the melee from Group B faces the winner of Killer Carrot 2 vs The Alien.
 * Group B: The winner of the melee from Group A faces the winner of Scorpion vs Plunderbird 5.

The other winners of the group face each other. The rest of the tournament is played out like any other tournament, with winners advancing. Should we do a third place playoff?  Helloher    (Death is not my phone number)  18:48, December 4, 2009 (UTC)


 * of course. thats a Part of Robot Wars I think so it should be there Thyrus 20:35, December 4, 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm done AI'ing now. RA2, if you want to pass any of the workload over to me, feel free to do. In the meantime, I'll make a copy of the dsl disc. Edit: I've now copied it.  Helloher    (Death is not my phone number)  11:42, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

I helped RA2 a bit with the charts for the video. Now I`m going to make a tournament tree. I may need some help there. Edit:I already finnished it. Thyrus 06:38, December 8, 2009 (UTC)

Promo
Here is a promo vide I made, to tell people from outside of the Wiki what this is all about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPYA2QnpvoQ

Fighta are on their way, so just bear with me a little longer. '''R A 2 ; [http://www.youtube.com/user/ResettisReplicas aka Resetti's Replicas. ] ( My Talk )''' 23:58, December 9, 2009 (UTC)


 * RA2, that was superb. It certainly is a million miles better than my idea of having the byebots fighting each other.  Helloher    (Death is not my phone number)  06:22, December 10, 2009 (UTC)


 * Very good work guys. I'm really looking forward to this. Christophee (talk) 13:39, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

=Another Quick Bit of Input Needed= How should we judge the tournament?

I was simulating Plunderbird vs Scorpion. Plunderbird was the faster and more agressive, but Scorpion the more damaging by far. I'm going to leave the question open.  Helloher    (Death is not my phone number)  06:36, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

Well I gues we will see how they will fight in the official video. If there`s a judges decission needed RA2 will do the right one. Thyrus 14:40, December 11, 2009 (UTC)


 * That's probably the best decision.  Helloher    (Death is not my phone number)  17:56, December 11, 2009 (UTC)

=Tree= Click here for the tournament tree. To avoid spoilers, all results except the most recent fight are shown. '''R A 2 ; [http://www.youtube.com/user/ResettisReplicas aka Resetti's Replicas. ] ( My Talk )''' 22:57, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

=The Battles= At long last, it's time to... Let the Wars begin!


 * Group A, Fight 1, Mousetrap vs X-Terminator
 * Group A, Fight 2, Killer Carrot vs The Alien

=Discussion=

Group A, Fight 1:

Drat! and Confustification! I thought I might win for... several seconds. Feel sad now. Picnic Attack    (Talk to me, or I'll poke you!)  14:13, December 11, 2009 (UTC) Picnic Attack    (Talk to me, or I'll poke you!)  feels sad


 * You still got a good chance to come back in the loosers melee.Thyrus 14:40, December 11, 2009 (UTC)


 * Just a shame the mousetrap snapped early on. Llamaman201 (talk) 21:06, December 12, 2009 (UTC)

Fight 2:

That was unexpected, I thought Killer Carrot had this in the bag, because 1 flip could kill The Alien. I enjoyed the fight though.  Helloher    (Death is not my phone number)  07:45, December 13, 2009 (UTC)
 * Who ai'ed my robot? It's weapon only went on as it hit kc2!!!!!! Squirrelmonkey


 * My replica of Disc-O-Inferno has the same trouble, not starting until an enemy is near. Fortunately, once it starts, it doesn't stop, same with The Alien.  Helloher    (Death is not my phone number)  13:31, December 13, 2009 (UTC)


 * Have you added a smartzone to the front of Disc-o-Inferno? Delldog starts to spinn when the fight beginns. Thyrus 13:44, December 13, 2009 (UTC)


 * No. It's probably just spinner.py  Helloher    (Death is not my phone number)  14:00, December 13, 2009 (UTC)


 * Thats strange. Mine is just the same.Thyrus 14:09, December 13, 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that is strange.  Helloher    (Death is not my phone number)  14:20, December 13, 2009 (UTC)