Forum:Welterweight Tournament - Discussion

This tournament will split up clusterbots and allow the lighter robots to fight fairly against other robots they are the same weight as. We'll need to discuss how many robots we can find that are eligible, and then work out a tournament plan for them. The weight limit is 75kg or 70kg, depending on numbers.

Judges
Just a quick show of hands for who wants to be the judges here. J im laa  d4   3 (talk) 13:17, November 1, 2018 (UTC)

I'll continue to judge until I DIE T  OAS  T  13:30, November 1, 2018 (UTC)

If nobody wants to judge, I'll step in for a tournament. Adster1005 (talk) 14:40, November 1, 2018 (UTC)

I've been a judge for some time, but only because I was "Mr reserve" I believe my position hasn't changed unless I'm to continue being a "full time" judge. Diotoir the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 14:58, November 1, 2018 (UTC)

Clusterbots
I would like to include all Clusterbots in this tournament, and split them up so they compete on their own. Both halves will compete, so I just want to confirm we're all happy with that, and decide on names to differentiate them. J im laa  d4   3 (talk) 13:17, November 1, 2018 (UTC)
 * Black and Blue - Black, Blue.
 * Crackers 'n' Smash - Crackers, Smash.
 * Gemini - Gemini 1?, Gemini 2?
 * The Kegs - Red Keg?, White Keg?

We then also have two curveballs, The Swarm and √3. My thought is to have the three parts of √3 compete separately, and to split The Swarm into two parts - the two Skye robots competing as Skye, and Blenda, Rubber Duck and Pinza to compete as The Swarm. Any objections or other ideas?

My thoughts: T OAS  T  13:30, November 1, 2018 (UTC)
 * I disagree that we need both halves of Gemini - one twin simply called Gemini is enough. They are literally indistinguishable.
 * With Blenda being so powerful, weighing up to 33kg (equal to the V3 segments), it doesn't need a teammate. Additionally, while Rubber Duck is useless against heavyweights, it can actually lift robots like some of these. I want to see all parts of The Swarm compete separately, with the exclusion of Skye which enters with both halves.
 * Both halves of The Kegs do have official names, Keg 1 had white wheels and Keg 2 had red wheels.
 * Can we have Typhoon Thunder and Typhoon Lightning please?

Crash's thoughts
 * The only clusterbot that's worth splitting up and using both halves is Crackers 'n' Smash. Everyone else, and that includes Typhoons Thunder and Lightning, are pretty much identical so there's no point in having any more than one version. Also I'd personally keep the Typhoon Twins as they are. CrashBash (talk) 13:46, November 1, 2018 (UTC)

<70kg class
All heavyweight robots weighing less than 70kg are eligible. If a robot has competed in any form at this weight, please add it to the list below, specifying the series and weight. J im laa  d4   3 (talk) 13:17, November 1, 2018 (UTC)

List

 * Expulsion (Series 10) - 70kg
 * Weber (Series 10) - 70kg
 * Sweeney Todd (Series 8) - 45kg
 * Granny's Revenge (Series 5) - 66kg
 * Ghetto-Bot (Series 4) - 51.7kg

Expulsion is a no from me, as it started at 70kg but gradually became heavier as the series progressed. Although I struggle to see how, the team claimed that the robot reached 110kg in weight by the stage of the 10 Robot Rumble. This would then leave Weber as a very strong outlier, so I'll personally vote against that too. Sweeney Todd is a good addition, Granny's Revenge maybe. T OAS  T  13:30, November 1, 2018 (UTC)
 * All we need to do is specify Expulsion from battle 1 then. If Weber is 70kg, it deserves to be here. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 13:58, November 1, 2018 (UTC)
 * There's still complications though, their official weight on the website was "roughly 70kg", meaning they could fall into the category below, which I'd guess is true considering they randomly gained 40kg between fights. Plus the exact fight one version of Expulsion entered alongside Detention. Weber just feels unusual, flippers have a natural advantage in this competition as their opponents are so light, I wouldn't feel right voting for the heavyweight Weber to throw everything out of the arena. T  OAS  T  14:43, November 1, 2018 (UTC)

70-75kg class
Depending on numbers, it might work to increase the weight limit to 75kg. Please add any eligible robots to the list that are between 70 and 75kg, so I can add them if possible. Please include the series and weight. J im laa  d4   3 (talk) 13:17, November 1, 2018 (UTC)
 * I'd personally rather not, robots like Robochicken and Arnold weren't exactly underweight at the time of Series 4, you could basically chuck in half of Series 3 at this rate. Let's stick to the clusterbots and the really underweight robots. T  OAS  T  14:40, November 1, 2018 (UTC)


 * Having gone through Series' 4-10, I'm actually considering raising the weight to 80kg because we won't have enough otherwise. Even Mighty Mouse is overweight in this tournament as it stands. The international series' might bolster it, but I'll have to check first. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 15:04, November 1, 2018 (UTC)

List

 * Chimera (Series 8) - 72kg
 * Bee-Capitator (Series 5) - 71kg
 * Ansgar (Extreme 1) - 74kg
 * Attila the Drum (Series 4) - 74.4kg
 * Robochicken (Series 4) - 75.0kg
 * Arnold, Arnold Terminegger (Series 4) - 73.3kg
 * Detonator (Series 4) - 72kg