Forum:Discussion/Archive 1

This is the official discussion page for the Arena. If you have an idea for a competition, please create a level three subheading, and provide a basic outline of your idea, under the section titles 'Competition Ideas'. If you want to discuss a topic besides this, changes to policy etc, please do so under the 'Discussion' heading.

After the current Arena competition has finished, voting will be opened to decide which of the submitted competition ideas will be used for the next competition. All competitions used to be held by the Arena host (this was Obi-Have) unless another user was given special permission to do so. As Obi-Have is no longer Arena Host, users are permitted to create their own Arena competitions with approval from the other users.

Redone Extreme Warriors Season 1
The first US championship was supposed to be 4 proper heats (each in the style of Series 4) insted of four 6-way melees. My idea is to play out the first season if they kept to that format. The groupings of 6 remain the same, and they're randomly divided into two 3-way eliminators. It'll be very brief, and interesting to see if we get the msame four finalists and if Panzer still wins. All the robots fight in their Season 1 forms. Some of Season 1 championship is on youtube, albeit not high quality. Coffin Bot and Tiger Cat stay in - I see no reason that the Clown and Skullmania wouldn't still be broken.'''R A 2 ; aka Resetti's Replicas. ( My Talk )''' 15:51, November 7, 2012 (UTC)

Comments

 * An original idea to say the least, but I can see two drawbacks. 1) Some users don't really like dealing with melees. 2) Some users may not have enough knowledge on the competing robots to make much of a reasoned argument. Datovidny (talk) 15:59, November 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * I very much like the idea. My one reservation was that not everyone will have seen the episode and I wasn't sure whether it was still on YouTube, but if it is then I see no reason not to try it. Christophee (talk) 16:00, November 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd be willing to give it a go. I wouldn't have so much of a problem with remembering the robots, but then, I do tend to remember these sorts of things a bit too well. As another question, what would we do concerning Skullmania, Conquering Clown, Coffin-Bot and Tiger Cat? CrashBash (talk) 16:25, November 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, that answers my question...it's still something I've been curious about for a while...but if I'm the only one who remembers it well enough, then I don't want to spoil all the fun. CrashBash (talk) 22:20, November 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * A good idea it is, though regarding the battles being on YouTube, I've only seen the three of Panzer Mk. 2 and The Revolutionist's battles. Manta and... erm... the other one, I have not seen their first-round melees, nor can I find them. If you can find them, please link me there. Toast  Ultimatum  18:16, November 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ach, it seems I was wrong, that there are only two of the melees and two of the final battles available. I don't know, I don't want to give up on it. R A 2 ; aka Resetti's Replicas.  ( My Talk ) 21:32, November 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * I saw the battles when they were originally up, but I don't remember enough about them to take part in a fantasy tournament. I imagine a lot of other users are probably in the same boat. Christophee (talk) 22:03, November 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * I know Ragnabot still has a long way to go, but with the recent re-uploadings of the battles of the 1st US championship, I'm all for re-supporting trying this particular tournament out. CrashBash (talk) 20:52, May 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * It's definitely more possible now, though there are still robots we barely saw in action. Still, it wouldn't take very long, so I suppose I'd be fine with it. Toast  Ultimatum  21:53, May 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * Late as heck but I'd love to see this happen. Badnik96 (talk) 05:05, January 31, 2015 (UTC) (forgot i wasn't signed in, my bad)

Back to the Warzone
A random little idea that came to me for a new tournament, after looking through the category "Robots that are Still Competing Today". It's an interesting list of robots, and not really one where an obvious winner is present. So I was thinking, maybe we could have a small tournament based upon that very list, where robots that are still in action as of when the list was last updated take part, appearing as they did when we last saw them on the show itself. We could hold it in a similar style to the New Blood competition from Extreme 2 with 24 robots...or if we're feeling adventurous, have it like the first Dutch series with 30 robots. But we can discuss that when we come to it. CrashBash (talk) 23:26, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

Comments

 * If we're only having heavyweights, the number of them in the category is 36, which is just the most perfect number isn't it? Datovidny (talk) 19:36, November 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * True, although one of those robots is Storm 2...CrashBash (talk) 20:05, November 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * I've got two answers to that: 1) it's now 37, 2) I'm pretty sure robots like Behemoth could take down Storm 2. Datovidny (talk) 20:08, November 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Are they in their present forms or their Robot Wars forms? R A 2 ; aka Resetti's Replicas. ( My Talk ) 21:05, November 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * As I stated, they are as we last saw them in Robot Wars. It's purely for ease if nothing else. CrashBash (talk) 21:13, November 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * I do agree that Storm 2 would have an unfair advantage, and that we should do whatever we need to not have it. R A 2 ; aka Resetti's Replicas. ( My Talk ) 22:00, November 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm in on this. I'm also in on getting rid of Storm 2.--Rammingspeed (talk) 20:50, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

Audited Series 4 (Volume 2)
The wiki's already had a Redone Series 4, but it was done way back in 2009/2010 with only a few users, before we started using the new voting format and had gathered new information on other robots that failed to qualify. Also, there's a whole new breed of users these days, pardon the expression, but there are a lot more users who can input their ideas, maybe Chaos 2 won't win this time around... Datovidny (talk) 18:34, January 25, 2013 (UTC)

Comments

 * Not to mention the fact the old tournament was done with the older format. I'd support doing this, but not for a while, considering we just did A Fantasy Audited War, and I see Audited Series 7 garnering more support and happening beforehand. Toast  Ultimatum  18:42, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * I hope we can do Audited Series 7 before too long, I've been waiting and looking forward to it for a very long time now. Datovidny (talk) 11:44, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'd be up for this.--Rammingspeed (talk) 12:07, January 26, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'd like to possibly do this idea if we were to set it up like series 5, with 4 ways eliminators spanning 12 heats as opposed to the 2 3 way melees set up over 16 heats simply because it'd be something different from the previous audited series. That is IF we were to do this idea, and I hope we do. BizarroKing (talk) 05:06, December 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm all for BizzaroKing's idea. CrashBash (talk) 08:04, December 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * This would also be good a it would reduce the amount of needless seeds, but we're through Audited 7 at the moment, and it looks like Audited 6 is soon, so we'll see how far away this is, but it would be good to see this done at some point in the near future. Datovidny (talk) 13:09, December 20, 2013 (UTC)

Dutch Series 3
As we did a German Series 2 tournament, I thought it might be good to do a Dutch Series 3. The robots would be a combination of Dutch Series 2 competitors, the best robots from Dutch Series 1 that didn't return, and Dutch/Belgian competitors from UK Series 7. The only real problem I can think of is that some teams' Series 7 entries failed to qualify, and we may not know enough about them to include them in the tournament (e.g. Deep Impact, Caesar etc.), but we could always enter their previous robots if we have to. I know I don't tend to take part in the Arena any more, but I would take part in this tournament if it was chosen. Christophee (talk) 10:35, April 27, 2013 (UTC)

Comments
I'm always up for an international series or two. CrashBash (talk) 11:00, April 27, 2013 (UTC)

Overseas Only Series
One idea I thought would be good was a competition made up only of international robots, no robots from the British Isles to compete, just cause it always seems to be British robots that win everything. Take them out of the equation, who's best? Obviously take all UK robots out, maybe leave in Irish ones though as potential picks, robots from all other countries allowed. Users nominate whoever they like, seeing as we don't really have the standard UK wars restrictions. Combatwombat555 (talk) 17:51, April 30, 2013 (UTC)

Comments

 * Well, even then, we'd need to make sure certain robots (like Drillzilla and Tsunami) were kept out of the equation. Probably worth a try, if anyone can remember the international competitors well enough. CrashBash (talk) 17:54, April 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * It seems such a simple idea that we should have done it by now, but I don't remember doing anything similar. I quite like it. Christophee (talk) 18:27, April 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * It doesn't especially match my tastes, mainly because it involves American robots, which I am not familiar with. I have trouble fighting for or against Americans in Ragnabot, and half the robots in this competition could end up coming from there. Also, if Tsunami is bannable, then so is Gravity, and then the crop of robots is getting weaker and weaker. Tsunami has come very close to losses against robots such as Spawn Again and Bulldog Breed on the wiki, surely some foreign robots could manage it. Toast  Ultimatum  18:36, April 30, 2013 (UTC)

House Robot Rebellion
You know what I'm like. I'm always on the lookout for new and different tournaments to try. So then I remembered we have never really given the House Robots any more than a fleeting mention (which I suppose isn't too much of a surprise, all things considering). So then I thought, why not do something about that?

My proposal is simple. We get a bunch of robots together (32, for example) and we put them into a series of heats (four would be the best bet). The robots then fight each other for a place in the Grand Final...but instead of fighting each other, they fight the House Robots.

Which house robots? Well, we could always assign each competitor a house robot beforehand, one that has "connections" with it, maybe with the competitor wanting revenge (I.E. Ming on Matilda, for interfering in Series 5), the house robot wanting revenge (I.E. Kat 3 on Cassius Chrome, after the latter was immobilsed) or even both wanting a crack at each other (I.E. Panic Attack on Shunt, for obvious reasons). CrashBash (talk) 21:24, May 31, 2013 (UTC)

Comments

 * I like the idea, it'll be fun to see who qualifies to fight the House Robots. Sam (BAZINGA) 21:59, May 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * Or we could just shove the house robots into Ragnabot 2. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 20:43, October 7, 2013 (UTC)

Redoing the Old
Based on an idea I had back on the old Robot Wars facebook page, something I felt could be translated here. Basically, we take one of the old series of Robot Wars and redo it, but with the robots as they appeared in the newer series. So, for example, if we took the line-up of Series 2's Heat A...what started as this...


 * Caliban
 * Demolition Demon
 * Napalm
 * Panda Monium
 * Piece De Resistance
 * Victor

...becomes this...


 * Daisy Chopper
 * Demolition Demon 2
 * Napalm 2
 * Hot Pants (didn't consider Thunderpants since we saw nothing of it)
 * Metalis
 * The Kraken

Basically, the heat plays exactly the same, same line-up, same gimmicks...just with updated robots.

If there is going to be a problem with this, it'll be picking a suitable series. I know from the Alternate Heat Winners tournament that voting in the Gauntlet/Trials wasn't entirely fun, but I seriously think Series 2 would be the best bet - S1 had so many lower-weight robots it would hardly be fair and S3 had many robots that never fought after that, leaving the heats rather same-y. But if you like this idea, we can discuss it as and when.

Best in series
How about a championship with 12 heats following the series 5 format of 4 1-on-1 battles. Each heat is for a different main competition series containing the 8 robots that did the best in the championship (So those that made the grand final and the second semi-finals of the UK championships). There are seven UK championships, one German, two American and two Dutch. Where a robot has reached the same stage on more than one occasion, eg Firestorm, it would enter in its latest series in the top 8, so Series 6, if it finished in the place but lower than before in a alter series like Firestorm in series 7, it gives its place to the robot it defeated in the previous round. They use the version show in the series, so Panic Attack would be the Series 2 version. Where a team has reached the stage twice with robots with different pages on this wiki (Bodyhammer and Pussycat) they shall be treated as separate. Heats A-L J im laa  d4   3 (talk) 09:02, August 22, 2013 (UTC)

Comments

 * Sounds interesting, but I don't think the wikia would take to doing a tournament that has a pre-done line-up, part of the reason I have never stated my idea of a UK version of Nickelodeon Robot Wars, which I have also made a pre-planned line-up for. If you like the idea that much, though, you could always make a little page linked to your own page and give your own thoughts as to who you think would win, like Toast has done. CrashBash (talk) 10:18, August 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * It was just to get a line-up. If people want to change it we could, but it was just to make sure I got my point across. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 11:13, August 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * Removed the heat list, if the redemption championship is being finished after Ragnabot, this idea could be next, preceded by a vote for the robots from each series. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 06:37, September 4, 2013 (UTC)

People's Challenge
First of all, this needs to be stressed...this is NOT an idea for a tournament, but rather as an extra to be held, say, during any one heat of other tournaments, like during Series 3, 4 and 7 when they had bonus events. The premise is the same as the People's Challenge event that never went ahead for Extreme 1, where members of the wikia will post ideas for one-off battles between two (or more if they really want to) robots, and then the most popular choices can be held during the various heats of the next tournament as extras. The beauty of this is that any robot can potentially take part, with no obvious restrictions (for example, any RW champion could be involved...want Razer vs Black Hole? Go for it).

Lets say, for example, the next tournament was "Fantasy Audited War 2". In Heat A, the final is between Kat 3 and Scorpion. It is around about here we could have the first of the People's Challenges...say, Kan Opener vs Crushtacean. It's completely unrelated to the main tournament and it allows for additional discussion. CrashBash (talk) 18:14, September 15, 2013 (UTC)

Comments

 * So it's a bit like the Special event in Series 7. If we have the right users-heats amount, each user could pick one fight each for the different heats. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 18:40, September 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * Sounds fun, it'll be great to see fights that people want to see. Sam (BAZINGA) 18:41, September 15, 2013 (UTC)

Ragnabot 2
If in the future, we decide to do a second series of Ragnabot, this is my proposal as to how it could happen. Firstly, seeds should be assigned depending on the results of Ragnabot 1, thusly. I have done a 1-64, which would put 4 seeds in a heat, but it could easily be cut down to 32 or even 16.

1. Razer

2. Tornado

3. Terrorhurtz

4. Bigger Brother

5. Firestorm 5

6. Atomic

7. Chaos 2

8. Hydra

9. Tricerabot 3.0

10. Hypno-Disc

11. Panzer Mk 4

12. frenZy

13. X-Terminator 3

14. Gravity

15. Bulldog Breed

16. Dominator 2

17. Centurion

18. Stinger

19. Panic Attack

20. Slicer

21. Thermidor 2

22. Big Nipper

23. Spawn Again

24. Cyclone 2 (Extreme Warriors)

25. Pussycat

26. Disc-O-Inferno

27. Destructive Criticism

28. Ripper

29. M2

30. Killerhurtz

31. Drillzilla

32. Leveler 2

33. Mortis

34. Weld-Dor 3

35. Raging Knightmare

36. Supernova

37. Tough As Nails

38. Rammstein

39. St. Agro

40. Mousetrap 2

41. Prizephita Mach 2

42. Eric

43. Kronic The Wedgehog

44. The Grim Reaper

45. IG-88

46. Tomahawk

47. Ming 2

48. Sir Force A Lot

49. All Torque

50. The Brute

51. PulverizeR

52. Hell's Teeth

53. Judge Shred 3

54. The Steel Avenger

55. Storm 2

56. Thor

57. Behemoth

58. Iron-Awe 2.1

59. Robochicken

60. Twister (Dutch)

61. X-Terminator 2

62. Steg 2

63. Pressure

64. Rocky-Bot-Boa

How the seeds will work: The top 16 follow the (What should have been) Series 4/7 format, of Heat A being 1st seed, Heat B being 3rd seed etc. The top 32 are arranged so each heat has a total of 33, so 1st fights 32nd, 2nd fights 31st etc. If 33-64 is chosen as well, then they start from the middle (Heat A has 40th and 55th seeds) and works out (Heat B has 41st and 54th...).

How the qualifiers work: If this is too hard to do, forget it, but if it is possible without too much faff, go ahead with it. All those that didn't qualify have to qualify again. They can either qualify in battles against other failed qualifiers or other robots. These other robots only consist of those that fell in Round 1 of the First Ragnabot. This means that all robots who made it to rounds 2 and onwards automatically qualify.

Sweepstake: All users who want to can pick ONE robot that fell in the heats of Ragnabot 1 at the start and accumulate points for it from the start. If it makes it through the heats to the Quarter-Finals, they automatically stay on your team and then the rest of the team is chosen around it.

We don't need to do Ragnabot 2 yet, in fact we could do with a break, but here is a framework for how it could be different following on from the Ragnabot we have already done. J im laa  d4   3 (talk) 16:18, September 18, 2013 (UTC)

Comments

 * I like this and it will probably happen in the future. Sam (BAZINGA) 16:21, September 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree that we should do a Ragnabot 2 tournament. However, I don't want seeds. The tournament was designed with randomness in mind. I know that makes it exactly the same as the last tournament, but it's what I'd want. Toast  Ultimatum  18:31, September 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * I do think we should at least have a 1-16 seeding as it eliminates the chance of one of these going out in the qualifiers and stops them meeting in the heats. Even if we do the UK Series 2 thing and have 1-8 and only in half the heats. It at least separates them from each other until the semis. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 18:39, September 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * Why would you want to eliminate that chance though? Isn't the point of Ragnabot that it's all drawn randomly so all robots have an equal chance? Christophee (talk) 18:49, September 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * We could add all robots from all weight classes (including the antweights) and potentially the House Robots too (come on, It'd be a laugh) J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 20:57, November 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * House Robots is a good idea, not sure about introducing other weight classes, and especially not antweights. What would be the point, you'd end up with battles with one robot more than 650 times heavier and bigger than the other. Combatwombat555 (talk) 23:10, November 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * I did it in my second Ragnabot and it was fun. some lower class robots like DTK and Typhoon could beat quite a few heavyweights. The antweights are just a little bit of ridiculous fun. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 07:47, November 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * I would be happy too run this tournament in the near future. If I did, I wouldn't be able to start it until August/September, but I can do it. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 11:17, April 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * After Unsung Heroes is finished, I would be happy to run this. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 06:57, July 2, 2015 (UTC)
 * I do want to do this next, and I have prepared the big list of all competitor bots from all countries, series and weight classes. A few bots I have got duplicates of from different series' where appropriate (Wild Thing Series 4, 5 and 6 for example). Due to the excessive number of extra bots, I would do the qualifiers as 3-way melees with one winner. The seeded robots mentioned above will not be split up in the heats, but I will make them exempt from qualifying. Because of the sheer amount of qualifiers, I would like to start them while the current tournament is running, so that we can start Ragnabot 2 proper when Unsung Heroes is over. Please comment below. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 10:57, July 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) How about letting Drop Zone mk2 hosting a tournament? He has already has started preparations. Sam (BAZINGA) 16:46, July 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * Where was that said? I've got this prepared, and I have time now to host it. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 16:48, July 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * In May, he has had 2 months to get things ready and is willing to host it after Unsung Heroes. Sam (BAZINGA) 17:25, July 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * More comments please. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 09:15, July 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * I still don't like the idea of seeding it, I'd rather have blockbuster heats with loads of OP robots, and then some with barely any quality. My main concern is simply that with our lower userbase right now, the competition won't be nearly as successful as the first. But hey, if you're taking care of the hosting, I'm more than happy to take part. Toast  Ultimatum  13:09, July 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * The seeding will be kicked out for the heats, they could all end up in one heat. The only impact the seeding would have is to keep those bots out of the qualifiers to try and guarantee killer heats. Hopefully Ragnabot will try to reignite the Arena. IIRC that happened for Ragnabot 1. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 15:16, July 10, 2015 (UTC)

Redemption Championship (Failed to Qualify edition)
Based on the Redemption Championship, how about a tournament between robots that failed to qualify for any wars? It would only include those we have a picture of, such as Scrap Dragon and More Panda Monium.Drop Zone mk2 (talk) 10:29, October 17, 2013 (UTC)

Comments

 * The problem with this is that because we haven't seen them, it is a struggle to assess how they fought. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 10:51, October 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * I understand your concern, but I feel we can reasonably accurately predict thier strengths and weakenesses by having a picture, and knowing what their weapons where. For example, we know Scrap Dragon can self right because it has self righting wings, but has flat sides that would make it vulnerable to spinning disks. We know More Panda Monium cannot self right as it dosen't have a srimech, and it's top makes it vulnerable to axes. Drop Zone mk2 (talk) 08:14, October 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * I dunno. Because we haven't seen them, we don't know how powerful the weapons are, how strong the armour is and how reliable they are. Its a good idea, but it is just that bit too hard to implement. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 09:31, October 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * Hadn't thought about it that way, I see your point. Unless I get a lot of support, this probably won't happen. Drop Zone mk2 (talk) 18:40, October 18, 2013 (UTC)

Trials Only Championship
I've heard several people bemoan how many robots that would have been better suited to fighting were eliminated in the Gauntlet or Trials, such as Barry and Caliban. We could dedicate a tournament to these robots, including those who only appeared in the Series 3 Pinball or Football. Drop Zone mk2 (talk) 10:29, October 17, 2013 (UTC)

Loaner and stock robots
An idea for a small tournament, do a tournament with all the Loanerbots and Stock Robots.

Comments
Sounds like fun, how many fights will be lost of lose faith in them. I can picture Tut Tut or Hard winning. Sam (BAZINGA) 13:57, December 15, 2013 (UTC)
 * There's only 17 of them, we can chuck Ramrombit as it wasn't actually used for a proper battle and do a quick knockout tournament. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 14:06, December 15, 2013 (UTC)

Audited Series 6
A lot of people have displayed interest in an Audited Series 6 now, and while I think we should wait a while before doing it, I'd like to make some suggestions for it now. Specifically, the format. I don't think we should use the same format as Series 6, instead using one of these:


 * Add 32 more robots from Extreme 2 and the Failed to Qualify list, and borrow the format from Audited Series 7. I have done an Audited Series 6 with this format, and adding 32 robots was quite easy. I didn't even need to add the brokenly good robot (Storm II), the brokenly bad robot (Night Raider), or foreign ones like Rawbot, which may not have attempted to qualify. No robots from the real Series 6 are binned.
 * Borrow the format from the real Series 4, with two three-way melees per heat. Some users would like to have more melees, so this is probably the way to do it. I'm still opposed to having four-way melees. Unlike the format above, this gives the opportunity to bin robots, for those who want to do so. I don't see the point when we can just keep them as well as adding more, but I know some people like binning.
 * Add 32 more robots, borrowing a selection from Extreme 2, the Failed to Qualify list, the second series of Robot Wars: The Dutch Battles, and from Robot Wars: The German Struggles. Those who like binning robots will have the chance to do so, while still adding 32 robots from various places. This format assumes that the German and Dutch Battles haven't happened, so all robots will be in working order, and robots like PulverizeR will not be seeded.

These three formats also give the opportunity to add four new seeds. Toast Ultimatum  14:39, December 24, 2013 (UTC)

Slight change of mind, I think I'm prepared to try out a tournament with four-way melees, and this is a good series to do it with. We can decide on melees later if we go ahead with the tournament. Toast Ultimatum  12:29, February 3, 2014 (UTC)

Comments
I still really don't want to do an Audited Series 6, but if we have to, I very much like the second idea. CrashBash (talk) 15:48, December 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * I think we should to idea 3 next, but without Extreme 2, so add bots from S6, German, Dutch S2 and American S2. Bring in the Heat Finalists from Netherlands and USA (26) and the 4 heat winners in the German wars. We then choose maybe 14 (or so) UK robots to remove and fill the 16 spaces left over with failed to qualify/other bots from the other countries. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 00:12, February 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * Sounds good, but I'm not sure why you're bringing in exclusively heat finalists instead of heat winners. Philipper II is hardly going to stop Razer. 14 bins is also quite a lot, people will bin ICU :( Toast  Ultimatum  11:26, February 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, we want to bring in quite a few from the other series. The ones we bring in can be binned too (For Example, I would vote to bin Tyke). It was merely a way to give enough space to bring in any other Foreign or failed to qualify bots (anyway, I can think of 14 bots I would bin that doesn't include ICU). I wanted to remove Extreme 2 from this as I think an Audited Extreme 2 would be fun. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 12:58, February 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * That sounds fair. I only excluded the Americans at first because Extreme Warriors 2 was filmed before Series 6 (I think), and we haven't seen it all. Toast  Ultimatum  13:16, February 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * It must have been around the S5/Extreme 1 times because it had Wowot, and ED (PC/Xbox) had Panzer Mk 4. However, I want the Americans to be included to make it truly international. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 13:36, February 3, 2014 (UTC)

The Resetti's Replicas Tribute Tournament
I don't think I need to say this, but we all enjoy RA2's tournaments on YouTube featuring his Robot Arena 2 replicas. But I couldn't help but wonder how it'd all translate into an Arena tournament with the actual robots he's been replicating.

The main rule is simple...the only robots allowed are those that RA2 has made a replica of. At least this way it guarantees an interesting mix of robots and potentially an unlikely winner. Obviously, though, these will be the actual robots we're focusing on, and not the replicas. No insanely powerful Project Two: Hex'em, for example. CrashBash (talk) 14:21, January 15, 2014 (UTC)

Comments
I dunno, It seems a bit too arbitrary. I know the Fantasy Audited War is arbitrary but at least it lets us all choose the robots. Another Wiki Wars wouldn't be bad though, as I wasn't around to get involved with it last time. J im laa  d4   3 (talk) 14:29, January 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * I like the idea. If it ends up as a Wiki Wars, I wasn't involved last time so it'll be fun to see which user wins. Sam (BAZINGA) 15:39, January 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * The selection of robots is too broad for it to be worthwhile in my opinion. RA2's made a lot of replicas in his time. Another Wiki Wars would be fantastic, but there's only one person on the wiki who can make that happen, and it isn't me. Toast  Ultimatum  18:17, January 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * traditionally we do them in February, I'd be up for doing one this year provided I'm allowed to make a few  rules about bot selections - tiny rules that I believe, based on my video making experience will make the fights and vids better. R A 2 ; aka Resetti's Replicas.  ( My Talk ) 20:35, January 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * I would absolutely love another one this year. I haven't even started to think about an anniversary celebration yet, and another Wiki Wars would be perfect. Christophee (talk) 20:38, January 15, 2014 (UTC)
 * Plus, it is the 20th anniversary of Robot Wars so if the final is uploaded on the 20th August, it can be to celebrate 20 years of Robotic mayhem. Sam (BAZINGA) 20:51, January 15, 2014 (UTC)

Super Seeds Championship
This sort of tournament was very popular over at the old Robot Wars forum back in the day, and I'm slightly surprised that it hasn't been proposed here. I say slightly because I know what we're like in the regards to "foregone conclusions". But hey, we're not going to know unless we try...it's never over until the fat Creature sings. Remember what I always say, no robot is truly "unbeatable".

Basically the idea is that it pits the seeds from the series that had them against each other. Obviously it'd vary in size considerably (Series 2 would be quite small, Series 4 quite big), but all five set-ups, I think, would be easily doable, the numbers are divisable by two or three. CrashBash (talk) 07:36, May 22, 2014 (UTC)

Six Nations Tournament (Minor)
Pity this didn't come about when the actual rugby tournament was still ongoing, but oh well. Might as well throw this out here anyway. I've listed it as minor as it could be something we simply do as an added bonus whilst working on the next "big tournament".

The idea is a league table, with six robots competing. Each robot fights each other at least once. The robots would get a set amount of points for a win, no points for a loss, and what to do with draws can be decided as and when is needed. The robots with the most points at the end will face off in one final battle to decide once and for all who would be the Six Nations Champion.

Who would be the representatives? Well...


 * ENGLAND: There's a lot of robots to choose from, although to make it fair, I'd advise against any that made the grand final, and probably the semi-final too.
 * WALES: A few robots available, although Panic Attack would probably be too "much". Maybe one of the others?
 * SCOTLAND: Not Typhoon 2. That much is obvious.
 * IRELAND: Either Diotoir or one of Team Monad's robots. I suppose Weld-Dor could work too, as I believe in the SN, the two parts of Ireland combine.
 * FRANCE: Hassock's Hog. Thanks to the nice little find, of course.
 * ITALY: Either Mastiff or Zeus, take your pick.

I'm all for mentioning this because it'd be different...we haven't had a league for some time. CrashBash (talk) 16:52, August 15, 2014 (UTC)

No Heat Winners
As Matt is stepping down, and I'd be prepared to Commentate for a tournament, I have a great idea for one. A simple tournament where none of the competitors have won a heat ever. This is for heavyweights, and the robots must not have won a heat in the Main Competitions, New Blood, or a Tournament with at least 3 battles (Tag-Team, Iron Maidens, Annihilators etc). What do people think? J im laa  d4   3 (talk) 09:21, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

Comments

 * I like this, it seems straight forward and could/should create a new tournament winner, a good opportunity to think outside the box for selections. I'd probably back something like this if I'm around for the polls. Datovidny (talk) 14:55, October 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * I like it, sounds like fun. Sam (BAZINGA) 15:06, October 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * With all due respect, this sorta sounds similar to the "Legends" tournament we did a while back....in fact, I think perhaps a bit too similar. CrashBash (talk) 17:12, October 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * The heat winners kinda got in the way of A Fantasy Audited War 2 IMO, it had too many good robots, and the semi-finals were filled with robots that have done well before. This idea opens up the window a lot more. We could see robots like Edge Hog winning here! Toast  Ultimatum  19:10, October 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * Gives some of the lesser known robots a chance to shine. I like the sound of this. -- Stalwart UK  19:49, October 13, 2014 (UTC)

Audited World Championship
This is just a idea off the top of my head, but have we considered holding an audited World Championship idea? My original idea would be to have heats for the qualifiers, with the winner going on to the World Championship and each country would have it's own Heat (i.e. Heat A for the UK). Looking at it though this may need some re-arranging seeing as only UK, US, Dutch, and maybe Germany only have a right number of robots to pull something like that off, but I want to see some form of World Championship idea in the near future if everyone would be on board for it. Has anyone suggested something similar in the past? BizarroKing (talk) 05:21, November 22, 2014 (UTC)

Comments

 * If you wanted a six heats, you could always include two wild card heats comprised of robots from all over the world. RelicRaider (talk) 10:01, January 31, 2015 (UTC)

How about this for a possibility?
 * Heat A: United Kingdom
 * Heat B: United States of America
 * Heat C: The Netherlands
 * Heat D: Germany
 * Heat E: The rest of Europe
 * Heat F: The rest of the world

That could potentially work. Not sure where Belgium would fit into this, but it'd surely fit into the third, fourth or fifth group. CrashBash (talk) 10:15, January 31, 2015 (UTC)
 * I do like both ideas. I was thinking of making it 8 heats but again I could reduce it to say 6 and have 2 winners from each heat like I hinted at. Then we would have 12 winners total for the final/grand/World Championship or whatever you would like to think of it as. BizarroKing (talk) 21:57, February 6, 2015 (UTC)

Ragnabot - Other Weights Possible?
Just a thought that hit me. The Ragnabot tournament proved to be very popular, and certainly kept its interest given just how many robots were involved. But it kinda got me wondering....whilst obviously "Heavyweight" was the dominant class in Robot Wars, would any of the other weight classes work for a sort of "mini-ragnabot"? I know some might be smaller than others, and a few more would probably be blindingly obvious, but I'll still throw the possibility out here anyway. Which non-heavyweight weight classes, if any, would make an interesting Ragnabot?

Comments
Antweights would be fun, and something unusual (I don't think any antweight has been used in a tournament yet?). Featherweights would work well, although it does seem like there may be an obvious winner in DTK. Lightweights, I don't think there were enough to be worth bothering with (7, and about half of them have little information aboput them), and middleweights would be ok but I don't really see the point, Typhoon's got that sewn up easily, and a lot of the designs are very generic with little in the way of weaponry. Combatwombat555 (talk) 00:25, January 31, 2015 (UTC)

The Eighth Wars Audited (again)
This idea sprung to mind after reading through a couple of users' own eighth wars tournaments, and seeing how this was, I believe the first ever tournament in the arena, both the format and the users have changed radically since then. It would also celebrate said changes with a sort of throwback to the very first series here. I have a couple of ideas of my own on how to run a few things a little differently, and whilst I'm not too bothered about the format as of yet, this could be a good time to exercise 4 way Melees, if people wanted them; and of course side competitions could be run at the end (perhaps including a tag team terror). Whilst I don't think this idea should be run just yet, I'm putting it forwards to be considered in future discussions. RelicRaider (talk) 10:01, January 31, 2015 (UTC)

Battle of the Giants
I suggested this back in the early days of the wikia, but it was generally ignored. I think we've come a way since then to give this idea a second chance. To cut a long story short, this is a small tournament featuring the House Robots. Competing against each other.

Of course, we could do this all battle-related, but I think we'd all agree that wouldn't really last very long at all. And the winner would probably be rather obvious. So what's the best thing to do? Well, whilst they're not favoured, the trials we've had in the past (such as Audited Series 1) haven't gone that badly, for the most part. My idea would be to pit the House Robots against each other in various trials suitable for Wikia judging, and then award them points based on how they perform. At the end of it all, the House Robots with the most points can fight in the Arena to decide once and for all who's the best.

Why am I even suggesting this, considering I think most people would have a problem with the format? Well, they did it in Gladiators (under the same title, no less), and the whole concept of having House Robots was based on the Gladiators, so...what goes around comes around. CrashBash (talk) 19:08, February 6, 2015 (UTC)

Annihilation Nation
I always wondered what would happen if the annihilator-type rounds of Robot Wars was made into heats of their own. Basically, what would happen is that 108 random robots are drawn into 18 heats with 6 robots each and they have to battle it out until one goes out. Rinse and repeat until 2 robots are left, in which case, they go through to the semifinals, and then the 36 'bots battle again until only six survives to the final. Obviously, I feel a massive problem is with the immense amount of heats, as there would be a total of 25 installments throughout the run of the competition, so maybe 3 heats created each time the last 3 end? I think it may work, but I don't know about what you people think. -- Demon Of  Tomorrow  21:48, April 14, 2015 (UTC)

Comments
The only problem with Annihilators is they are mostly random, which makes it extremely hard to judge. It is a cool idea that would be fun if we can come up with a sensible way to run it. J im laa  d4   3 (talk) 21:50, April 14, 2015 (UTC)

UK & non UK tag team terror
Just putting this out there, I've thought of a sequel to the TTT tournament I hosted and I want your opinion on what you think of it. My idea is each team consists of a UK bot and non UK bot, one example I can give being Team Dragon (which is Chompalot and General Chompsalot 2 with Jaw Breaker's Revenge's jaws), maybe Team Infinity (pretty obvious which bots make up that team) and Crab & Lobster (ok, it is a team I used in TTT4 but Crushtacean is from South Africa so it does still work). If you guys don't like, tell me, I just thought that it would be a interesting tournament. If it is given the go ahead, I'll host after Audited Extreme 1, give Drop Zone mk2 a chance to host. Sam (BAZINGA) 21:39, June 9, 2015 (UTC)

Update: just made teams on my sandbox, if anyone has any thoughts on the teams and whether it is a good idea. It'll be interesting in my opinion. Sam (BAZINGA) 17:10, July 7, 2015 (UTC)

'Unfair' battles
This probably wouldn't work as a main tournament, but as a series of side events I was thinking of 2 vs 1 battles: pitting one 'All-Star' against two less-successful robots on a team together, a little like the Extreme 1 battle that saw Chaos 2 defeat Philipper and Alien Destructor. The robots on the team together couldn't be too good, or they'd just massively outclass the robot by itself, so I was thinking of having them no better than heat finalists (at least, no semi-finalists from later wars). So, for example, we might have (robots obtained from the 'Random Page' button) Pussycat against Trouble & Strife and Wolverine. Maybe a foregone conclusion, maybe not, but what about, say, Hypno-Disc vs Diotoir and Corkscrew? I think it'd be fun to see which robots are truly invincible when up against it, and which take the fall when ganged up on. Users could suggest which battles they'd like to see, and we could slot the battles into a separate tournament as a Special Event. Thoughts? Combatwombat555 (talk) 14:24, August 4, 2015 (UTC)

Comments
I like this idea, I think it can work Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 12:31, August 5, 2015 (UTC)

A Formatting Idea
This isn't a tournament idea, but in looking over our past tournaments, I've observed that the old format works a lot better in 4-way melee situations. The old format is where everyone just posts their thoughts in a sub-header, rather than separating it by robot. I feel like I can make stronger arguments when I'm consolidating it all into one block of text (I wanted to say "everyone," but I can only gauge myself), rather than splitting it between the two qualifying bots. If we decide to re introduce 4 way melees, then I'd strongly recommend setting them up that way and only keeping it as is for the one-one-one's. Also, if we do 3-way eliminators, perhaps we should set it up so that people vote one robot out instead of two robots in - for the same reason of consolidating arguments. I'd be more open to formats outside of one-on-one if we do them this way. Just my two pence. '''R A 2 ; aka Resetti's Replicas. ( My Talk )''' 13:26, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

Comments
E.G. The Battle is Firestorm III vs Behemoth vs 13 Black vs Kan Opener
 * I'm all for this idea. I don't tend to contribute much to melee battles because I find it difficult to argue for the two robots I want to go through, but I would find it easier if I could just say what I think will happen in the battle as a whole. Christophee (talk) 15:08, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * There is another way to do four way melees with the column thing, but it is quite complicated and would probably take up too much space.


 * The first column would say: Firestorm and Behemoth through.
 * The second column would say: 13 Black and Kan Opener through.
 * The third column would say: Firestorm III and 13 Black through.
 * The fourth column would say: Behemoth and Kan Opener through.
 * The fifth column would say: Firestorm III and Kan Opener through.
 * And the sixth and final column would say: Behemoth and 13 Black through.

It would mean you don't have to split your vote for both robots, but I certainly can see immediate flaws with it, like it would take up too much space, so you wouldn't get to put much description in if you wanted a long justification. Counting up votes would be a little more difficult, and it would be quite a lot of work for the person that is organizing the contest to insert all those pictures and columns. So I can understand why it's a bad idea, but I just had a sudden brainwave, and decided to type all of this out. RelicRaider (talk) 12:12, June 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * I like this idea too. In my opinion, it adds a lot more to the discussion...and to be honest, I like imagining how four-way melees would go. CrashBash (talk) 17:36, September 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * How about this. The line-up for the 4-way melees are put up and each user can just talk about it, but at the end of each persons vote, finish with the two winners in bold(For Exapmle The Alien and Ruf Ruf Dougal qualified). That way, it is easy to see who was voted for and a decent discussion about the battle can occur. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 17:57, September 18, 2013 (UTC)


 * I'll be honest, having seeing how people feel about the melees, I think it's a shame. If I may say...I'm actually kinda bored of doing 1v1 all the time. CrashBash (talk) 19:10, October 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * Again, not really my place to say seeing as I've skipped the past couple of tournaments, but I think if we were to do a series 6 audited at some point (hopefully not for a while, audited tournaments are excellent and should probably be savoured), then I'd probably prefer four way melees to head to heads, or any other format, mainly because it's true to the actual series, but also because series 6 was my favourite series, looking back on it, and it would be brilliant to see it all come to life in the arena. I know I'm probably completely outnumbered on this view, but, best to put my two cents in than to stay silent, I think. RelicRaider (talk) 19:45, January 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * While I agree that an audited series 6 would be fun, I feel we need to change it up a bit; we could do 3 way melees instead and in doing so spread the heats out from 12 to 16. Or we could continue from our audited series 5 and have a follow up championship with that. I do feel we can also do Audited Series 4 instead. BizarroKing (talk) 20:08, January 8, 2015 (UTC)

Possible new structure?
This might be crazy too, but as a tournament structure that's been going on as long as robot combat itself, and still used in many American tournaments, I might as well throw this out here...how would people feel about trying a tournament with a Double Elimination structure? The idea being that, alongside the main competition, there is a loser's bracket, where the losing robots get given a second chance. The final battle will ultimately be the winner of the main bracket against the winner of the loser's bracket, regardless as to whether they have actually fought each other yet or not.

To give you guys an example, take this hypothetical All-Stars Ragnabot tournament, with 24 competing robots. The main competition would run like so...

Round 1
 * Tornado vs 3 Stegs to Heaven
 * Wild Thing 2 vs Hypno-Disc
 * Pussycat vs Gemini
 * X-Terminator vs Stinger
 * King B Powerworks vs Chaos 2
 * Bigger Brother vs Spawn Again
 * Behemoth vs S3
 * Wheely Big Cheese vs Razer

Round 2
 * 13 Black vs Bigger Brother
 * Dantomkia vs Chaos 2
 * Diotoir vs Behemoth
 * Terrorhurtz vs X-Terminator
 * Pussycat vs Panic Attack
 * Razer vs Firestorm 5
 * Dominator 2 vs Tornado
 * Hypno-Disc vs Kat 3

Round 3
 * Dantomkia vs Pussycat
 * Bigger Brother vs Tornado
 * Razer vs Behemoth
 * Hypno-Disc vs Terrorhurtz

Round 4
 * Bigger Brother vs Pussycat
 * Razer vs Terrorhurtz

Final
 * Bigger Brother vs Razer

...but whilst this is happening, we also have the following losers bracket, slowly building up. In this case, it would go like so...

Round 1 (Round 1 dropout vs Round 2 dropout)
 * King B Powerworks vs Chaos 2
 * Gemini vs 13 Black
 * Stinger vs Panic Attack
 * Wheely Big Cheese vs Diotoir
 * S3 vs Kat 3
 * Wild Thing 2 vs Firestorm 5
 * 3 Stegs to Heaven vs X-Terminator
 * Spawn Again vs Dominator 2

Round 2
 * Chaos 2 vs Wheely Big Cheese
 * X-Terminator vs Dominator 2
 * Stinger vs Firestorm 5
 * S3 vs 13 Black

Round 3 (vs Round 3 dropout)
 * 13 Black vs Dantomkia
 * Chaos 2 vs Hypno-Disc
 * X-Terminator vs Tornado
 * Firestorm 5 vs Behemoth

Round 4
 * Chaos 2 vs Firestorm 5
 * Dantomkia vs Tornado

Round 5 (vs Round 4 dropout)
 * Tornado vs Terrorhurtz
 * Firestorm 5 vs Pussycat

Round 6
 * Tornado vs Firestorm 5

Round 7 (vs Round 5 dropout)
 * Tornado vs Bigger Brother

...and, of course, it could be the results won't always be the same, depending on what votes we get. Either way, now, the main bracket winner and loser bracket winner would fight each other.

Final
 * Razer vs Tornado

Now, I appreciate this isn't the best example, and I wouldn't be surprised if this is a whisker too complicated to follow, but I'm putting it here anyway to think about. For sanity sakes, it would be best if this was only done with a small tournament. CrashBash (talk) 13:01, March 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'dm up for this. We can always set up the tournament like the typical Fantasy Audited War affair, and just choose the entrants. I'm very familiar with the format thanks to gaming tournaments, so I think it might be worth a go. Toast  Ultimatum  13:41, March 16, 2015 (UTC)
 * Same here, it looks like a more interesting system. Sam (BAZINGA) 14:27, March 16, 2015 (UTC)

So, what are we doing next, and who is running it? J im laa  d4   3 (talk) 12:33, March 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm game for doing the Tag Team Terror. Sam (BAZINGA) 14:16, March 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * If anybody doesn't start a tourney in the next week, I'll start the Tag Team Terror (properly that is). Sam (BAZINGA) 16:09, March 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * That was a absolute blast, Tag Team Terror 4 did better than I thought it would (also figured out how the judges decisions are made). Sam (BAZINGA) 10:49, April 6, 2015 (UTC)