Forum:Ragnabot Heat N

Scorpion
''Before we get this heat underway, we need to discuss what to do about Scorpion, who's due to fight here. I'll withhold making a vote until I've heard arguments for others. Matt Talk to me  18:26, July 18, 2013 (UTC)''
 * I would like the original Ansgar to compete in its place. My second choice would be TX-108. Toast  Ultimatum  18:27, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * At first, I would have liked Plunderbird 2, but now I'm inclined to agree with Toast. Ansgar 1 and Ansgar 3 were, in my opinion, different enough to warrant seperate entries..in fact I dare say they were completely different. I am assuming, of course, the original Ansgar didn't make the cut (I lost count trying to figure out who was left). CrashBash (talk) 18:39, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * Correct, only 1 Ansgar slot at present. Matt Robot Wars.jpg Talk to me  20:03, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * In that case, definitely Ansgar 1. Makes more sense to have two different robots than the same robot with just a different paintjob. CrashBash (talk) 20:10, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * If not Ansgar 3, then Wild Thing s4 instead. (I know I know it's never gonna happen but oh well. RelicRaider (talk) 18:49, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * For me, the original Ansgar again seems the best choice. It's a very different design to the other Ansgar machines- it shares no traits with them really- and I for one would love the opportunity to see another German machine in the next round. Other than that, Plunderbird 2 would be my second choice. Combatwombat555 (talk) 19:24, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * I think TX-108 should take its place. Sam (BAZINGA) 19:48, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * Gee, I don't know...Science Block? --GoldenFox93 (talk) 21:09, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * Science Block is ineligible, as it never appeared on Robot Wars. The difference with TX-108 is that it appeared in a Robot Wars battle that was never aired, debatably making it a competitor. Ultimately though, I think that Ansgar, being so very different to Ansgar 3, deserves the place more. Toast  Ultimatum  21:46, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * I would go with Ansgar. Besides, as TX-108's battle was never televised I wouldn't really be able to offer a fair assessment of it against another robot.  Stalwart UK  21:52, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * How about Robot The Bruce (S1) or one of the first two Aggrobots (S3-S4)?  ManU Crazy   (talk)  23:09, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure Robot The Bruce will be in the series anyway. Toast  Ultimatum  23:14, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm going for Plunderbird 2. I'll switch to Ansgar if that will resolve a tie. R A 2 ; aka Resetti's Replicas.  ( My Talk ) 05:17, July 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * I know I don't have arena privileges so sorry, but I have been following Ragnabot for a bit and would just like to know what is wrong with Scorpion and why is it being replaced? Jimlaad43 (talk) 10:46, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Nothing is wrong with Scorpion, it's just that there was a slight error in the robot list making, which listed Scorpion and "Spirit of Scorpion" as two separate robots (even though they're not). A few users (myself included) weren't too happy about this, and requested that we cut it down. Since Spirit of Scorpion has already been used, we can't use Scorpion...TBH, it was written on Ragnabot's discussion page, and I feel really bad for not noticing it sooner. This could have been avoided. CrashBash (talk) 11:02, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't feel bad CrashBash, the responsibility lies with me. Matt Robot Wars.jpg Talk to me  17:23, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * To be fair, I probably should have noticed it anyway, considering it was me who, all those years ago, but out that plight that Spirit of Scorpion was too similar to Scorpion (S7 version) to be seperate (this was back when there was only one article per team). Oh well...CrashBash (talk) 17:32, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Is the original Series 4 Scorpion going to appear at some point? Also, thanks CrashBash for correcting my silly error on this page earlier. For some reason I was looking at an old version of the page without realising, so when I made an edit, I accidentally deleted most of the content. Sorry about that. Christophee (talk) 22:24, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * I myself have done a little count, and if all the robots I think are in are in, we won't have room for that Scorpion. CrashBash (talk) 23:00, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Matt already confirmed when we first discovered Spirit of Scorpion that the original Scorpion wouldn't take part. Toast  Ultimatum  23:07, July 19, 2013 (UTC)

Decision
''It seems to me that there is a consensus for Ansgar. I will place the original in this heat, and we'll see Ansgar 3 later in Ragnabot''