Forum:Extreme Series 3 - Discussion

It's been a while since I've done one of these, so please bear with me whilst I get my bearings. This will need a bit of discussion, so lets get cracking.

Judges
First things first, it goes without saying that we'll need another judge, since obviously I won't be able to do it. Any takers? CrashBash (talk) 13:04, April 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * I might be able to do it. CaliforniaKingsnake (talk) 13:07, April 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't mind ether, I've been a judge before so I don't really mind if I don't get picked or I do. Diotoir the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 13:18, April 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * I NOMINATE NICK T  OAS  T  13:20, April 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * I can finally reclaim my position after being commentator for many months. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 13:33, April 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm going to take a break for this one, with exams looming I could do without the distraction, so we need another judge. Combatwombat555 (talk) 15:22, April 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * THEN I NOMINATE NICK T  OAS  T  16:53, April 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll put myself up for the role! (mainly to calm down Toast a little) Nweston8 (talk) 17:05, April 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * I will support Nweston8 due to his detailed votes, which I believe is a must for anyone who wants to be a judge. I will not be running for the judge role, since exams are looming for me. SpaceManiac888   (Talk)  17:40, April 21, 2017 (UTC)


 * In that case, I'm more than happy to have Nweston as a judge. Welcome aboard. CrashBash (talk) 13:41, April 22, 2017 (UTC)

Number of Events
The first thing I think we should try and decide on is how many events we should actually hold. Obviously it'd kinda suck if the tournament ran on for too long. Feel free to post your thoughts below. CrashBash (talk) 13:04, April 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm personally thinking having 10 events would be a nice number to work with. CrashBash (talk) 13:04, April 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * 10 sounds good CaliforniaKingsnake (talk) 13:07, April 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * I'd rather not pick a specific number until we know how many events people take a genuine interest in. Can we also form a new banned robots list of Carbide and only Carbide? T  OAS  T  13:22, April 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * Carbide has to be in the All-Stars by default, but beyond that, yeah probably a safe call. CrashBash (talk) 13:34, April 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * Ten's a good number of events. Diotoir the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 13:32, April 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * Ten sounds a good amount, but yeah, it's important to fully break it down first. Nweston8 (talk) 17:07, April 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * Undecided as of yet, since ten could be too many or too few at the moment. Maybe we should wait until all event ideas are proposed?

Types of Events
We also need to consider what sort of events we'd actually like to hold for this event. The easiest way to figure that out would be to see which is the most popular and work with that.

These events will be included by default:
 * All-Stars
 * Annihilator
 * Tag Team Terror

But anything else can be discussed upon. Long story short, I would suggest a variety of tournaments that'll allow us to use a wide variety of robots. Ideas for events can include, but are not limited to...
 * Mayhem, which can be tacked on to the Annihilator
 * Weapon-themed tournaments
 * Team member themed-tournaments, like the Iron Maiden and Minor Meltdown
 * World Championship
 * House Robot Rebellion
 * Challenge Belt

Feel free to vote away, I'll drop my own personal thoughts later. CrashBash (talk) 13:04, April 21, 2017 (UTC)


 * Weapon battles, Mayhem and Challenge Belt are a given imo. As for the House Robot Rebellion, I only see one robot competing, Apollo. CaliforniaKingsnake (talk) 13:07, April 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * I would like to see a House Robot Rebellion, Challenge Belt, Weapon Themed melees (e.g. like Flipper Frenzy, Axe Attack etc.), Mayhems for the annihilator(s), University Challenge (we have enough I think), Old vs New and possibly Vengeance. Diotoir  the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 13:27, April 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * World Championship definitely. We can get countries like Japan, Netherlands, Northern Ireland involved. University Challenge should be possible. If we do 2 annihilators, that should allow most robots to get in a Mayhem, so there is at least a chance of the BotS robots getting a go with everyone else. Can we have a figure for the number of eligible robots to compete? J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 13:37, April 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * Anyone who competed in the rebooted series is available. I don't have intention of banning any robot from use except probably maybe Carbide, and even then it's in one event by default. CrashBash (talk) 13:47, April 21, 2017 (UTC)

To be clear, I'd like to see Mayhems (for the annihilator), Flipper Frenzy, Battle of the Spinners, Iron Maidens (with Chompalot as reigning champion), Minor Meltdown (with Or Te as reigning champion) and World Championship. Those would be my personal choices at least. CrashBash (talk) 13:38, April 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * That's fine, but the number isn't 88 is it? We have robots like PP3D, Behemoth and TR2 that have been updated, but can still be classed as the same. A quick count is needed. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 13:50, April 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * Out of curiosity will the robots that failed to qualify and or appeared in the pilot be appearing as well? Diotoir  the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 13:55, April 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * Just doing a quick count, I think we have 77 robots. Of robots that competed twice, we can use the second version only for all robots (except maybe Thor, just use S8 version - and Carbide. User S9 for All-Stars, but S8 for any other tournaments it enters). Sabretooth is the only robot I think warrants both versions to be used, as it's the only robot with a completely different design. Ones like MRSS, Foxic, Supernova and Chimera are just improvements over the same basic design. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 14:00, April 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * I did a quick count, and the robots that competed in the new UK series amounts to 61 in total, but that only accounts for the robots in the UK championship. I don't have a problem with involving BOTS/FtQ/Pilot competitors provided we know enough about them to make an effective guess on how well they'd do (so, sorry, we probably can't do PacifieR). Also, as tempting as it'd be, I'd rather stick to the most up-to-date version of the machine as it appeared on TV to avoid too much confusion. CrashBash (talk) 14:02, April 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * We could have some Wild Card Warrior matches with new-to-the reboot robots fighting original series ones. Carbide can be used in Series 8 for for the Iron Maidens maybe. Kan-Opener needs to qualify for the Annihilator by default, without having to pass through a mayhem. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 13:48, April 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm not keen on using older versions of Thor, Carbide or Sabretooth - old Sabretooth was only in one battle, Thor S9 was designed to alleviate the past version's shortcomings, and we're simply not going to use Carbide outside of the All-Stars. Most up-to-date versions of everybody please. I don't think we have a great need for F2Q robots because there's only so many ways flippers such as Toxic 2, Ripper, Iron-Awe 7 etc can differentiate themselves from Eruption and TR2 - obviously I'd want them all in the TV series because I love to watch flippers, but in terms of fictional votes, they're similar. Although I wouldn't say no to Iron Heart 88 or Bullfrog...! And Crash, absolutely we do want to include BotS competitors, that was the main draw of this tournament for me. T  OAS  T  14:16, April 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * Can we say the BotS robots are driven by the mentors, so they are at least competitive against non BotS robots. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 14:17, April 21, 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't have a problem with that, but we'll figure out which robots will fight once we've sorted out the tournaments. CrashBash (talk) 14:20, April 21, 2017 (UTC)


 * Can we use the series 7 all stars criteria not the extreme criteria? Because Carbide has beaten every single series 9 finalist by KO and I think it would be more fun. The head to head nature of not the tournaments means we have seen almost every combination fight there can be except Apollo v Pulsar and a few other outliers. Lets see Crank E v MR speed Squared.  Toon Ganondorf    (t    c)  14:32, April 21, 2017 (UTC)


 * I agree with TG. Use robots who have appeared a lot rather than necessarily the best robots. It would make for more unpredictable fights. Use robots who fought in the old series, such as Dantomkia, Thermidor 2, Crushtacean, Terrorhurtz, Thor, Sabretooth and Behemoth alongside new robots from old teams like M.R. Speed Squared, PP3D and Ironside3, and maybe grand finalists like Pulsar and Apollo if numbers are short. Also, I'd still like to push forward the idea of a tournament between robots who only fought in one battle from either Series 8 or 9 to get a second chance (e.g. Tauron, Cobra, Bonk and Glitterbomb).  R  a z  3   r (talk) 14:56, April 21, 2017 (UTC)


 * I'd be all for a tournament involving robots who debuted in the classic series, but the All-Stars itself is going to be finalist based, I'm afraid. CrashBash (talk) 15:05, April 21, 2017 (UTC)


 * I'd definitely like a veteran tournament then please. :P R  a z  3   r (talk) 15:07, April 21, 2017 (UTC)

What about a jokebot melee/tournament containing the likes of Nuts, Jellyfish, Overdozer, Wyrm and Trolley Rage etc? R  a z  3   r (talk) 15:18, April 21, 2017 (UTC)


 * I'd like to suggest something I put on the discussion page a while back: what about Unfair Battles? Two weaker robots in a team together against one stronger, in the vein of the Chaos 2 vs Phillips & Alien Destructor battle in Extreme 1. Not as an entire tournament, but maybe a side event? Combatwombat555 (talk) 15:28, April 21, 2017 (UTC)

Also, this might just be me, but I'd love a space battle. Apollo, Pulsar, Supernova, Interstellar:MML... Combatwombat555 (talk) 15:35, April 21, 2017 (UTC)


 * Personally, I would love to see the following:
 * Weapon-based battles, for robots equipped with flippers/crushers/axes/spinners/drums as well as one for clusterbots/minibots.
 * Iron Maidens/Minor Meltdown tournaments.
 * Themed melees/Mayhem battles (e.g., space, animal-based, weather-based).
 * Grudge Matches (e.g., Arena Cleaner vs Kadeena Machina, Behemoth vs Terrorhurtz).
 * A House Robot Rebellion starring Apollo, Foxic and Arena Cleaner. :)
 * That being said, a World Championship also sounds like a fantastic proposition. Vulcans Howl  16:36, April 21, 2017 (UTC)


 * Oh wow, a battle with all the multi-robots, clusterbots and minibots in the arena at the same time. That would be mental xD J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 16:51, April 21, 2017 (UTC)


 * The weapons battles could be the mayhems to assure one of each weapon in the annihilator. RelicRaider (talk) 14:34, April 22, 2017 (UTC)

I am going to propose that we bring back an old favourite of mine: Sumo. Think about it for a moment, as Shunt is now far more heavier and powerful than he was prior to Series 8, of which he can now easily push back other robots, like Terrorhurtz. Therefore, I think Sumo would be fun to see with the new robots. I also propose we bring back Football, with the upgraded House Robots protecting their areas. Finally, does anyone want the scrapped event Exhibition to become reality? SpaceManiac888  (Talk)

I'd support all the tournaments mentioned by CrashBash in his intro, especially using the Mayhems as Annihilator qualifiers a la Extreme 1. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:12, April 21, 2017 (UTC)

Hang on why is the all stars decided and that's I think without any discussion? The idea of it being finalists means we are going to have a tournament which is almost entirely "happened". Every finalist has fought each other, it's bad enough that the whole even will just be a waste of time because Carbide wins, but there won't be many fights at all we haven't seen!  Toon Ganondorf    (t    c)  21:33, April 21, 2017 (UTC)


 * The All-Stars was pretty much decided without discussion because, first of all, it was obvious who was going to be in there (two-versus-one of the All-Stars was the successful robots, not simply the longest lasting), and second of all, to simply be fair on all the other robots. Also, you're wrong, because there will be fights we haven't seen. Just trust me on this. CrashBash (talk) 04:49, April 22, 2017 (UTC)


 * Actually I'm not wrong because the finalists have mostly fought each other, but we will have to see Pulsar, Concussion and TR2 fight the rest to justify the tournament I guess.  Toon Ganondorf    (t    c)  06:05, April 22, 2017 (UTC)


 * You just provided examples proving that you're wrong. That statement makes no sense. I'm not willing to go any further into this right now, all I ask is you trust me, I know what I'm doing. CrashBash (talk) 13:00, April 22, 2017 (UTC)
 * A War of Independence between top 4 in Robot wars and top 4 in Battlebots? Only thing being the UK robs would have the advantage of being in their home arena. But I feel our arena would be the only way to make this happen. RelicRaider (talk) 14:30, April 22, 2017 (UTC)

Events so far
Seems I've gotten quite a few suggestions for events, and I thank you guys for it thus far. I think we might be close to the stage where we can see if we can narrow things down, and then maybe decide on how many events we actually want to hold.

The following events have been proposed.
 * Flipper Frenzy
 * House Robot Rebellion
 * Iron Maidens
 * Challenge Belt
 * Axe Attack
 * University Challenge
 * Old vs New (robots who competed in the old series against robots from the new one)
 * World Championship
 * Battle of the Spinners
 * Minor Meltdown
 * Vengeance
 * Legends (akin to the All-Stars of Series 7)
 * Second Chance (robots who lost early in the rebooted series)
 * Crusher Crunch-Up
 * Trials (Football and Sumo)
 * Themed Battles

Also Mayhems, which I'm happy to include onto the Annihilator. So, with this in mind, how should we go about deciding what gets in? CrashBash (talk) 05:15, April 22, 2017 (UTC)
 * I think we should decide based on event, e.g. Vengeance, where us users can list the robots we'd like to see with or without reason, same with World Championship and Iron Maidens etc. With challenge Belt we can do what we did before and each of us nominates as many robots we can to take part in the Challenge Belt and obviously use Random.Org to select one of the candidates. Diotoir the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 05:44, April 22, 2017 (UTC)


 * I'd rather first sort out which events we actually do. CrashBash (talk) 05:48, April 22, 2017 (UTC)
 * That'd be wise to do. Diotoir the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 06:53, April 22, 2017 (UTC)
 * Well Carbide is a bit of an OP robot atm, so it would be fun to see take on the equally OP House Robots, but as the twist, do so ALONGSIDE Apollo. Also as for other events, we need to have a Tag Team Terror. CaliforniaKingsnake (talk) 10:15, April 22, 2017 (UTC)


 * The Tag Team Terror is locked, it was never going to be not included. CrashBash (talk) 13:00, April 22, 2017 (UTC)

No love for Unfair Battles? Sad face. For the ones here, would it be an idea to work out which robots are actually eligible for Iron Maidens and Minor Meltdown? Just so we know how many and whether we've got enough for a full tournament. Combatwombat555 (talk) 12:18, April 22, 2017 (UTC)


 * I apologise for not noticing that, although I'm sure I could nonetheless work something with that theme. CrashBash (talk) 13:40, April 22, 2017 (UTC)


 * As far as I'm aware, the following robots could be eligible for Iron Maidens:
 * Chompalot
 * TMHWK
 * Ms Nightshade
 * Kadeena Machina (driver: Kadeena Cox)
 * The Cat (driver: Suzi Perry)
 * Interstellar MML (driver: Dr Maggie Aderin-Pocock)


 * And the following for Minor Meltdown:
 * Glitterbomb
 * Cherub
 * Expulsion
 * HIGH-5
 * Frostbite
 * Soldier Ant
 * Or Te


 * Given Alex Brown's age at the time of Series 8-9, TR2 could also be eligible for Minor Meltdown, but I'm not too sure. Vulcans Howl  12:37, April 22, 2017 (UTC)


 * Any robot with a female team member is technically viable for the Iron Maiden tournament. CrashBash (talk) 12:54, April 22, 2017 (UTC)
 * As in all those with "tacticians"? Also Cherub would be eligible for Iron Maidens as Sarah is the captain. CaliforniaKingsnake (talk) 12:59, April 22, 2017 (UTC)
 * Come to think of it, Glitterbomb could also be eligible for Iron Maidens since April is the weapons operator. Vulcans Howl  13:06, April 22, 2017 (UTC)

As far as I can see, the following robots are viable -

Minor Meltdown
 * Crank-E
 * Glitterbomb
 * Or Te
 * TR2 (maybe)
 * Gabriel
 * Cherub
 * Push to Exit
 * Expulsion
 * Frostbite
 * HIGH-5

Iron Maidens
 * Razer
 * Glitterbomb
 * Supernova
 * PP3D
 * Sabretooth
 * Chompalot
 * Ironside3
 * TMHWK
 * Expulsion
 * Heavy Metal
 * Pulsar
 * Ms Nightshade

At least at a glance anyway. CrashBash (talk) 13:20, April 22, 2017 (UTC)
 * Carbide and Storm2 can be in Iron Maidens too. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 13:36, April 22, 2017 (UTC)


 * True. Either way, we have more than enough robots to make the MM and IM workable. Looking in retrospect, something like Vengeance and probably even Old vs New would work better as an added extra like we sometimes include during tournaments, like we've done with the pinball and sumo trials. Basically, I think we need to think about what we can actually realistically hold as a full event. CrashBash (talk) 13:40, April 22, 2017 (UTC)


 * Full event is the the word. Yeah, a flipper frenzy would be cool, but it's always just a one-battle event. Maybe have an episode dedicated to each weapon having a battle. Flipper Frenzy and Axe Attack, then Spin City and Crusher Crunch-Up. Then Clusterbot Kerfuffle and Rambot Rumble. 6 battles, 1 episode page. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 15:22, April 22, 2017 (UTC)
 * Also, Second Chance should be named after one of our arena tournaments: "Redemption Championship". J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 15:23, April 22, 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't know about you, but I think that either 'Clusterbot Collision' or 'Clusterbot Chaos' sound like better names for the clusterbot/minibot battle. Vulcans Howl  15:31, April 22, 2017 (UTC)
 * I like the sound of Clusterbot Chaos. Having side events would definitely work; I wouldn't want to spend a whole episode on just Vengeance or Trials. Also, for the Minor Meltdown and Iron Maiden, mightn't we have a problem to do with control if the people in charge of weapons and driving is different? Or are we just assuming the same ability? R  a z  3   r (talk) 15:52, April 22, 2017 (UTC)

That makes sense, Jim. So, lets see how this looks so far...
 * 1) All-Stars (essentially done in two heats)
 * 2) Annihilator (complete with Mayhems)
 * 3) Tag Team Terror
 * 4) Legends Tournament
 * 5) Redemption Championship
 * 6) Iron Maidens
 * 7) Minor Meltdown
 * 8) University Challenge
 * 9) War of the Weapons (as proposed by Jim above)
 * 10) World Championship

And then some smaller side-events off to the side as little extras here and there. That's how I'm seeing it at the moment, at the very least. CrashBash (talk) 15:35, April 22, 2017 (UTC)
 * Move the annihilator later and do a Mayhem parallel to the final battle of each episode until the Annihilator is full. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 15:51, April 22, 2017 (UTC)
 * Now that we know how Mega Melvin and Mouse act in battle (Thanks to RoboGames) we can have them in the World Championship hopefully! Diotoir the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 16:02, April 22, 2017 (UTC)
 * No, the premise of this tournament is only the robots which appeared on screen in the arena of the two rebooted series'. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 16:04, April 22, 2017 (UTC)
 * As I said earlier, any robot who wasn't selected, withdrew or was only in the pilot is fair game provided we know enough about them to consider...so preferably some stats and a good picture. CrashBash (talk) 16:06, April 22, 2017 (UTC)
 * For Mouse and Mega Melvin you can look at this to see how they perform: https://www.twitch.tv/robogames

Mega Melvin is like Sweeny Todd crossed with Terrorhurtz, Mouse is quite average, the flipper is like Prizephita's. Diotoir the  son  of  nemesis  (talk)

So for potential Tag-Teams, including the obvious ones, I was thinking:
 * Foxic & Apex
 * Nuts 2 & Jellyfish
 * Tauron & Concussion
 * Dantomkia & Push to Exit
 * Cherub & Gabriel
 * Tough As Nails & Cobra
 * Ironside3 & Meggamouse
 * Kan-Opener & Thor
 * Thoughts? R  a z  3   r (talk) 11:03, April 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * Terrorhurtz & Carbide? PP3D and Coyote. World Champions Razer and Storm 2. Shockwave and Aftershock. Also, if we are doing Challenge Belt, we should give it to Storm 2 to start with, they were the last robot to defeat Tornado after all, and they did it twice. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 11:37, April 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * I like those suggestions. King B Remix-Draven, Hobgoblin-Sabretooth and Frostbite-Expulsion are shouts as well. Nweston8 (talk) 12:13, April 23, 2017 (UTC)

Competitors for the events
Well, it seems like people are already discussing which robots they want in each event. I'd wanted to work on that tomorrow, but since there's already some discussing, and nobody seems to have any issue with the current line-up of events, why not? So, propose your choices for competing robots down below. CrashBash (talk) 13:28, April 23, 2017 (UTC)

Annihilator

 * 18 robots are required
 * Kan-Opener is included by default

Diotoir's Choices
I'm choosing these based on power, not too powerful but able to put up fights. Diotoir the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 13:39, April 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Kan-Opener
 * 2) Crank-E
 * 3) Crazy Coupee 88
 * 4) Infernal Contraption
 * TR2
 * 1) Nuts
 * 2) Crackers 'n' Smash
 * 3) Meggamouse
 * Dee
 * 1) Kadeena Machina
 * 2) Dantomkia
 * 3) Mega Melvin (Watch RoboGames to see how it behaves)
 * 4) Big Nipper
 * 5) Glitterbomb
 * 6) Cherub
 * 7) Draven
 * 8) Thermidor 2
 * 9) Sabretooth

Jimlaad43
Weo only need 15 robots, as there will be 5 qualifiers, not 6 as Kan-Opener isn't needing to qualify. What I would say, is fill up the Mayhem's last. We need to get every robot into at least one tournament, and as there are no criteria for the mayhems except "exist", then they should be filled last with anyone who hasn't been allocated yet. J im laa  d4   3 (talk) 14:26, April 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Dantomkia
 * 2) Big Nipper
 * 3) Thor
 * 4) Hobgoblin
 * 5) Razer
 * 6) Terror Turtle
 * 7) Ms Nightshade
 * 8) Crushtacean
 * 9) Rapid
 * 10) Behemoth
 * 11) Kadeena Machina
 * 12) Arena Cleaner
 * Jar
 * Dee
 * 1) Foxic

RAZ3R

 * 1) Dantomkia
 * 2) Beast
 * 3) Gabriel
 * 4) Big Nipper
 * 5) DisConstructor
 * 6) Heavy Metal
 * 7) M.R. Speed Squared
 * 8) Wyrm
 * 9) Crushtacean
 * 10) Sabretooth
 * 11) Chimera 2
 * 12) Draven
 * 13) Rapid
 * 14) Hobgoblin
 * 15) Thermidor 2

Lewis05
(talk) 23:14, April 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Behemoth
 * 2) Gabriel
 * 3) Apollo
 * 4) Thermidor 2
 * 5) Basher or Beta
 * 6) Supernova
 * 7) Shockwave
 * 8) King B Remix
 * 9) Pulsar
 * 10) Ironside 3
 * 11) Draven
 * 12) PP3D
 * 13) Jellyfish
 * 14) Overdozer
 * TR2

Nweston8
Nweston8 (talk) 19:12, April 24, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Razer
 * 2) Behemoth
 * 3) DisConstructor
 * 4) Shockwave
 * 5) Thor
 * 6) Big Nipper
 * 7) King B Remix
 * 8) Glitterbomb
 * 9) Kadeena Machina
 * 10) Gabriel
 * Dee
 * 1) Rapid
 * 2) Cobra
 * 3) Heavy Metal
 * 4) Concussion

Tag Team Terror

 * 8 teams are required

Jimlaad43
J im laa  d4   3 (talk) 14:00, April 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Foxic & Apex
 * 2) Nuts 2 & Jellyfish
 * 3) Dantomkia & Push to Exit
 * 4) Cherub & Gabriel
 * 5) Tough As Nails & Cobra
 * 6) Ironside3 & Meggamouse
 * 7) PP3D & Coyote
 * 8) Arena Cleaner & Kadeena Machina - BotS champions in the same team.

Diotoir's Choices
Diotoir the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 14:12, April 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Nuts & Jellyfish
 * 2) Ironside & Meggamouse
 * 3) PP3D & Coyote
 * 4) Razer & Concussion (Drum and location)
 * 5) Cherub & Gabriel
 * 6) Tough as Nails & Cobra
 * 7) Foxic & Apex
 * 8) Dantomkia & Push to Exit

RAZ3R's choices
R a z  3   r (talk) 15:42, April 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Foxic & Apex
 * 2) Nuts 2 & Jellyfish
 * 3) Tauron & Concussion
 * 4) Dantomkia & Push to Exit
 * 5) Cherub & Gabriel
 * 6) Tough As Nails & Cobra
 * 7) Ironside3 & Meggamouse
 * 8) PP3D and Coyote

Lewis05's Choices
(talk) 23:14, April 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Behemoth & Terrorhurtz
 * 2) Nuts & Jellyfish
 * 3) King B Remix & Thor
 * 4) Tough As Nails & Cobra
 * 5) Overdozer & Kill-E-Cranke
 * 6) Shockwave & TR2
 * 7) PP3D & Carbide
 * 8) Supernova & Ironside 3

TG
Try to balance the teams guys seriously. What's the point of putting Nuts and Jellyfish in except to give a free pass in a tournament with only seven fights anyway.
 * 1) Concussion and Terrorhurtz- specifically stated by Concussion as their dream partner
 * 2) Kill E Crank E and Dantomkia - Team Cold Fusion reunion.
 * 3) TAN and Cobra, Foxic and Apex, Ironside3 and Meggamouse, Cherub and Gabriel and PP3D and Coyote are all fine with me.
 * 4) Chompalot and Hobgoblin - medieval theme

 Toon Ganondorf    (t    c)  04:58, April 24, 2017 (UTC)

CK's choices
CaliforniaKingsnake (talk) 08:26, April 24, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Foxic & Apex
 * 2) PP3D & Coyote
 * 3) Eruption & TR2
 * 4) Concussion & Tauron
 * 5) Ironside3 & Meggamouse
 * 6) Pulsar & Supernova
 * 7) Cherub & Gabriel
 * 8) King B Remix & Draven

ToastUltimatum's choices
First, let me dedicate a few words to a choice I would like to see pick up some speed.


 * 1) Thor & Kan-Opener

Now even before last weekend, I knew that Jason Marston was the owner of Kan-Opener at the time of Series 8, but after going backstage at Extreme Robots, I realise how truly connected these two teams are. Both Kan-Opener team members were wearing Thor t-shirts at the event, and helped fix the robot. Not only that, but they told me that they were pretty much honourary team members of Team Thor throughout Series 8, and were constantly involved, and only didn't do the same in Series 9 because it clashed with Tom Kane's working schedule. I was tempted to pair Thor up with Crazy Coupe 88 because we were going to take part in the Tag Team together at the event, but Iron Heart didn't make it to the arena in time - but Thor and Kan-Opener are too connected for me to ignore. Now for the other seven:


 * 1) Cherub and Gabriel - Two completely different robots, will be great fun to vote for. The connection is obvious.
 * 2) PP3D and Coyote - Again the connection is obvious, and also it's a blend of a deadly spinner and a slightly less competitive robot.
 * 3) Concussion and Tauron - The teams seem like absolute best buds. No way would they not team up.
 * 4) Ironside3 and Meggamouse - The TV show never established a relation between the two teams, so hopefully casual viewers would just think they're friends.
 * 5) King B Remix and Draven - I never expected these two teams to be so connected, but they genuinely are. Should make a fun team.
 * 6) Tough as Nails and Cobra - Two completely different pushers, and the two halves of Team Rubbish can easily take control of each robot.
 * 7) JAR and Kadeena Machina - I narrowly missed out on giving Nuts 2/Jellyfish space, as I want to involve BotS competitors, and Team GB is a genuine thing - these Olympians are athletes on the same sports team.

Legends Tournament

 * 12 robots are required
 * Competitors must have competed in the original series of Robot Wars

Jimlaad43
I've gone for ones that are largely unchanged from their previous appearance - so no Thor, The General or Beast. J im laa  d4   3 (talk) 14:07, April 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Thermidor 2
 * 2) Razer
 * 3) DisConstructor
 * 4) Dantomkia
 * 5) Big Nipper
 * 6) Crushtacean
 * 7) Tough As Nails
 * 8) Supernova
 * 9) Storm 2
 * 10) Behemoth
 * 11) King B Remix
 * 12) Terror Turtle

Diotoir's Choices
I've done this base on allstar material. Diotoir the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 14:15, April 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Razer
 * 2) Thermidor
 * 3) Dantomkia
 * 4) Big Nipper
 * 5) King B Remix
 * 6) Storm 2
 * 7) Behemoth
 * 8) Thor
 * 9) Crushtacean
 * 10) Tough as Nails
 * 11) Supernova
 * 12) Terrorhurtz

RAZ3R's choices
I think that's fair enough with the situation with Thor, Beast etc, but I still feel like it would be better to have 16 robots myself, considering that alongside these 12 I'm still missing DisConstructor, Drave, Terror Turtle, Kan-Opener and Chompalot. R a z  3   r (talk) 15:52, April 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Behemoth
 * 2) Big Nipper
 * 3) Crushtacean
 * 4) Dantomkia
 * 5) Infernal Contraption
 * 6) King B Remix
 * 7) Razer
 * 8) Storm 2
 * 9) Supernova
 * 10) Terrorhurtz
 * 11) Thermidor 2
 * 12) Tough As Nails

Vulcan's choices
Vulcans Howl 18:41, April 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Razer
 * 2) Terrorhurtz
 * 3) Behemoth
 * 4) Dantomkia
 * 5) Storm 2
 * 6) King B Remix
 * 7) Thor
 * 8) Crushtacean
 * 9) Thermidor 2
 * 10) Tough as Nails
 * 11) Chompalot
 * 12) Supernova

Lewis05's Choices
(talk) 23:14, April 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Behemoth
 * 2) Terrorhurtz
 * 3) Thermidor 2
 * 4) Thor
 * 5) Supernova
 * 6) King B Remix
 * 7) Tough As Nails
 * 8) Terror Turtle
 * 9) Bonk
 * 10) The General
 * 11) Chompalot
 * 12) Storm2

ToastUltimatum's choices

 * 1) Razer
 * 2) Terrorhurtz
 * 3) Behemoth
 * 4) Dantomkia
 * 5) Storm2
 * 6) King B Remix
 * 7) Thermidor II
 * 8) Crushtacean
 * 9) Tough as Nails
 * 10) Supernova
 * 11) Big Nipper
 * 12) Infernal Contraption

I was very close to including Terror Turtle, but thinking about it more, it didn't debut until Extreme 2. Chompalot will get a guaranteed place in the Iron Maidens while Kan-Opener is in the Annihilator, so I missed them off here. T OAS  T  17:42, April 24, 2017 (UTC)

Redemption Championship

 * 12 robots are required
 * Robots must have fallen early in the rebooted season, ideally in Round 1

Diotoir's Choices
Diotoir the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 13:42, April 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Infernal Contraption
 * 2) Crazy Coupee 88
 * 3) Push to Exit
 * 4) Draven
 * 5) Meggamouse
 * 6) Trolley Rage
 * 7) Rusty
 * 8) Terror Turtle
 * 9) Cobra
 * 10) Chimera
 * 11) Apex
 * 12) Crank-E

Jimlaad43
I decided to place a vote for all the robots that had to withdraw, as they definitely didn't get a chance to do the battles they deserved. J im laa  d4   3 (talk) 14:07, April 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Bonk
 * 2) The General
 * 3) Draven
 * 4) Glitterbomb
 * 5) Crazy Coupe 88
 * 6) TMHWK
 * 7) Cobra
 * 8) Tauron
 * 9) Chompalot
 * 10) Rapid
 * 11) Frostbite
 * 12) Rusty
 * For the record, I do not have a problem with that. CrashBash (talk) 14:16, April 23, 2017 (UTC)

RAZ3R
R a z  3   r (talk) 15:57, April 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Apex
 * 2) Bonk
 * 3) Push to Exit
 * 4) Meggamouse
 * 5) Glitterbomb
 * 6) Sweeney Todd
 * 7) Crazy Coupe 88
 * 8) Cobra
 * 9) Hobgoblin
 * 10) The General
 * 11) Tauron
 * 12) Rusty

VulcansHowl
Vulcans Howl 18:41, April 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Cobra
 * 2) Tauron
 * 3) The General
 * 4) Glitterbomb
 * 5) Rapid
 * 6) THMWK
 * 7) Bonk
 * 8) Jellyfish
 * 9) Crazy Coupe 88
 * 10) Meggamouse
 * 11) Apex
 * 12) Push to Exit

CK

 * 1) Tauron
 * 2) Rapid
 * 3) Apex
 * 4) Crushtacean
 * 5) Push to Exit
 * 6) Meggamouse
 * 7) Glitterbomb
 * 8) Kan-Opener
 * 9) Chimera2
 * 10) Foxic
 * 11) HIGH-5
 * 12) Ms Nightshade

CaliforniaKingsnake (talk) 08:34, April 24, 2017 (UTC)

ToastUltimatum

 * 1) Rapid
 * 2) Push to Exit
 * 3) Chimera2
 * 4) Bonk
 * 5) Cobra
 * 6) Apex
 * 7) Crazy Coupe 88
 * 8) DisConstructor
 * 9) Trolley Rage
 * 10) Rusty
 * 11) Thermidor II
 * 12) Hobgoblin

T OAS  T  17:47, April 24, 2017 (UTC)

Minor Meltdown

 * 6-8 robots are required
 * Teams must have a kid or teenager present
 * Or Te is included by default

Diotoir's Choices
Diotoir the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 13:46, April 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Or Te
 * 2) Cherub
 * 3) High-5
 * 4) TR2
 * 5) Glitterbomb
 * 6) Eruption (Allowed?)
 * 7) Soldier Ant
 * 8) Sabretooth

J im laa  d4   3 (talk) 14:10, April 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Frostbite
 * 2) High-5
 * 3) Soldier Ant
 * 4) Cherub
 * 5) Expulsion
 * 6) Chimera
 * 7) Sabretooth

RAZ3R
R a z  3   r (talk) 16:02, April 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Frostbite
 * 2) Glitterbomb
 * 3) Cherub
 * 4) Expulsion
 * 5) HIGH-5
 * 6) Crank-E
 * 7) Or Te
 * 8) Soldier Ant

VulcansHowl
Vulcans Howl 18:41, April 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Or Te
 * TR2
 * 1) Glitterbomb
 * 2) Expulsion
 * 3) HIGH-5
 * 4) Frostbite
 * 5) Soldier Ant
 * 6) Cherub

ToastUltimatum

 * 1) Soldier Ant
 * 2) Glitterbomb
 * 3) HIGH-5
 * 4) Gabriel
 * 5) Sabretooth
 * 6) Interstellar: MML

Frostbite and Expulsion will be in the "University" Challenge, so I don't think they need to be here on the basis of being students as well. Plus one of the Expulsion team members celebrated their 18th birthday this weekend, while Frostbite are apparently third years. Cherub is a team of kids anyway, so I picked Gabriel so that the robot is going into new hands. T OAS  T  17:50, April 24, 2017 (UTC)

Iron Maidens

 * 6-8 robots are required
 * Teams must have a female member
 * Chompalot is included by default

Diotoir's Choices
I'm not including Ms Nightshade as it sucks but not only that it would lose to just about everything here. Diotoir the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 13:50, April 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Chompalot
 * 2) TMHWK
 * 3) Ironside3
 * 4) Sweeney Todd
 * 5) Meggamouse
 * 6) Jellyfish
 * 7) Kadeena Machina
 * 8) Razer

J im laa  d4   3 (talk) 14:12, April 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Jellyfish
 * 2) TMHWK
 * 3) Ms Nightshade
 * 4) Storm 2
 * 5) Carbide
 * 6) Heavy Metal
 * 7) The Cat
 * 8) Dantomkia
 * 9) Supernova
 * 10) Ironside3

RAZ3R
R a z  3   r (talk) 16:09, April 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Chompalot
 * 2) TMHWK
 * 3) Kadeena Machina
 * 4) Supernova
 * 5) Coyote
 * 6) Ironside3
 * 7) Meggamouse
 * 8) Ms Nightshade

VulcansHowl
Vulcans Howl 18:41, April 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Chompalot
 * 2) TMHWK
 * 3) Cherub
 * 4) Glitterbomb
 * 5) Kadeena Machina
 * 6) The Cat
 * 7) Interstellar MML
 * 8) Ms Nightshade

ToastUltimatum

 * 1) Jellyfish
 * 2) Meggamouse
 * 3) Heavy Metal
 * 4) Coyote
 * 5) Razer
 * 6) Cherub

I'll also vote for Sweeney Todd depending on who its normal driver is, but I don't really want to check for myself. You see, I feel part of the challenge behind the Iron Maidens was to put the robot in the hands of new drivers. Robots like TMHWK and Kadeena Machina were already driven by women. Granted there's not much else TMHWK can compete in, but I'll still just vote for robots who have women in need of the driving role. T OAS  T  17:57, April 24, 2017 (UTC)

University Challenge

 * 6-8 robots are required
 * Teams must have, or have had, some connection to a school or university

Diotoir's Choices
Diotoir the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 14:01, April 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Infernal Contraption
 * 2) Trolley Rage
 * 3) Frostbite
 * 4) Expulsion
 * 5) Draven
 * 6) Supernova (?)

Jimlaad43
J im laa  d4   3 (talk) 14:16, April 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Infernal Contraption
 * 2) Trolley Rage
 * 3) Nuts 2
 * 4) Eruption
 * 5) Rusty

RAZ3R
R a z  3   r (talk) 16:13, April 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Infernal Contraption
 * 2) Supernova
 * 3) Behemoth (They fought in it last time?)
 * 4) Draven
 * 5) Rusty
 * 6) Frostbite
 * 7) Expulsion
 * 8) Trolley Rage

VulcansHowl
Vulcans Howl 18:41, April 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Behemoth
 * 2) Infernal Contraption
 * 3) Draven
 * 4) Trolley Rage
 * 5) Expulsion
 * 6) Rusty
 * 7) Frostbite
 * 8) Nuts 2

ToastUltimatum
Can I give negative votes for Behemoth, IC and Supernova? It's been thirteen whole years since these guys were at university, and they have full careers by now. Honestly, treat this more as the "School Rumble" (I admit to referencing an anime here), because if you're accepting people who got degrees over a decade ago, many many robots are eligible. Meanwhile I'll still place some coventional votes...


 * 1) Eruption (you've all forgotten this one, and no, it can't be in the Minor Meltdown)
 * 2) Meggamouse (according to the Robot Wars website, two team members are students and both are in their early 20's)
 * 3) Expulsion (real great guys, I met them at Extreme Robots, I'm cheering for them now)
 * 4) Trolley Rage
 * 5) Rusty
 * 6) Clyde Built
 * 7) Frostbite
 * 8) Nuts 2
 * 9) M.R. Speed Squared

The last university challenge only had six robots, so six of these is enough IMO. T OAS  T  01:13, April 24, 2017 (UTC)


 * You do make valid points about Behemoth and Supernova, but I think I'd be more willing to look the other way for IC. That said, I do like your list in particular, considering the realities of the situation. CrashBash (talk) 17:31, April 24, 2017 (UTC)

War of the Weapons

 * Divided into flippers, standard spinners, axes, crushers, spinning drums and clusterbots
 * 4 robots from each are required

Diotoir's Choices
Flipper Frenzy Axe Attack Crusher Crunch up Clusterbots Carnage Spin City Drums of Doom Diotoir the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 14:26, April 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Eruption
 * TR2
 * 1) Apollo
 * 2) Rapid
 * 1) Thor
 * 2) Terrorhurtz
 * 3) THMWK
 * 4) Glitterbomb
 * 1) Razer
 * 2) Soldier Ant
 * 3) Kan-Opener
 * 4) Draven
 * 1) Nuts
 * 2) Meggamouse
 * 3) Crackers'n'Smash
 * 4) Terror Turtle
 * 1) Ironside3
 * 2) Aftershock
 * 3) PP3D
 * 4) Supernova (No Carbide due to an easy outcome)
 * 1) Sabretooth
 * 2) Pulsar
 * 3) Concussion
 * 4) Infernal Contraption

RAZ3R
Flipper Frenzy Axe Attack Crusher Crunch Up Spin City Drums of Doom Clusterbot Carnage R a z  3   r (talk) 16:23, April 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Eruption
 * 2) Apollo
 * TR2
 * 1) Rapid
 * 1) Terrorhurtz
 * 2) Thor
 * 3) TMHWK
 * 4) Glitterbomb
 * 1) Razer
 * 2) Kan-Opener
 * 3) Soldier Ant
 * 4) Draven
 * 1) Ironside3
 * 2) Aftershock
 * 3) PP3D
 * 4) Carbide (Series 8 edition) or Supernova if Carbide isn't allowed
 * 1) Sabretooth
 * 2) Pulsar
 * 3) Concussion
 * 4) Infernal Contraption
 * 1) Nuts 2
 * 2) Crackers 'n' Smash
 * 3) Terror Turtle
 * 4) Meggamouse

VulcansHowl
Flipper Frenzy
 * 1) Eruption
 * 2) Apollo
 * TR2
 * 1) Rapid

Axe Attack
 * 1) Terrorhurtz
 * 2) Thor
 * 3) THMWK
 * 4) Glitterbomb

Crusher Crunch-Up
 * 1) Razer
 * 2) Soldier Ant
 * 3) Kan-Opener
 * 4) Big Nipper

Spin City/Battle of the Spinners
 * 1) Ironside3
 * 2) Aftershock
 * 3) Supernova
 * 4) Kadeena Machina

Drums of Doom/The Drum-Off
 * 1) Pulsar
 * 2) Sabretooth
 * 3) Concussion
 * 4) Infernal Contraption

Clusterbot Carnage/Clusterbot Chaos Vulcans Howl 18:41, April 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Nuts / Nuts 2
 * 2) Meggamouse
 * 3) Crackers 'n' Smash
 * 4) Terror Turtle

ToastUltimatum
Flipper Frenzy
 * 1) Rapid
 * 2) Eruption
 * 3) Apollo
 * TR2

Axe Attack
 * 1) Thor
 * 2) Terrorhurtz
 * 3) TMHWK
 * JAR

Crusher Crunch-Up
 * 1) Razer
 * 2) Big Nipper
 * 3) Kan-Opener
 * 4) Soldier Ant

Spin City
 * 1) Kadeena Machina
 * 2) The Cat
 * 3) Aftershock
 * 4) Arena Cleaner

Beating of the Drums
 * 1) Sabretooth
 * 2) Concussion
 * 3) Pulsar
 * 4) Hobgoblin

Clusterfrick
 * 1) Crackers 'n' Smash
 * 2) Meggamouse
 * 3) Terror Turtle
 * 4) Nuts 2

Thwackbot Throwdown
 * 1) Infernal Contraption
 * 2) Chimera2
 * 3) Gabriel
 * Dee

World Championship

 * Can either have 8 or 16 competitors, depending on whether we desire to split the UK into the four nations or not.
 * There are at least eight countries that can be represented - Canada (Terror Turtle), Belgium (Cobra), South Africa (Crushtacean), Sri Lanka (Supernova), Japan (King B Remix), Netherlands (Tough as Nails, TMHWK and Bullfrog), USA (Foxic, Mouse and Mega Melvin) and UK (everyone else). I'd ideally like it so the first five automatically get a place in.

Jimlaad43
I'm placing a minus vote for every robot like Bullfrog, Mouse and Mega Melvin that didn't appear on the TV show in every category. Both these need to be in to try and reclaim their title
 * 1) Storm 2 (England)
 * 2) Razer (England)
 * 1) Robo Savage (Wales)
 * 2) Apollo (Wales)
 * 3) PP3D (Scotland)
 * 4) Jellyfish (Northern Ireland)

For any other England slots, fill the rest with some of these. J im laa  d4   3 (talk) 14:25, April 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Carbide
 * 2) Thor
 * 3) Pulsar
 * 4) Ironside3
 * 5) Eruption
 * TR2
 * 1) Aftershock/Shockwave
 * The reason I'm against non-televised robots is that it's not the point of this tournament. When the reboot wars were proposed, the whole point of it was to give battle debut's to robots that were on the televised episodes of Robot Wars, nowhere else. We don't need Mega Melvin or Bullfrog as there are other robots that can represent the country. We also wouldn't want a robot like The General to miss out on appearing in this tournament for the sake of a robot half of us won't ever see fight - and don't just link a Youtube video. This is the Robot Wars wiki after all... J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 16:16, April 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Not all of us are from the UK and attend live events.  Toon Ganondorf    (t    c)  22:47, April 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * The issue is that Toxic 2 is now the World Champions. SpaceManiac888   (Talk)  18:30, April 24, 2017 (UTC)

Diotoir's Choices
Unlike Jim I won't act silly over robots like Bullfrog, Mouse, Mega Melvin etc. And will be including them after all it be boring with just England and Dutch robots... UK South Africa USA The Netherlands Belgium Japan Sri Lanka Canada Diotoir the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 14:33, April 23, 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Razer
 * 2) Storm 2
 * 3) Apollo
 * 4) Carbide
 * 1) Crushtacean
 * 1) Mega Melvin
 * 2) Mouse
 * 3) Foxic
 * 1) Tough as Nails
 * 2) Bullfrog
 * 3) Gravity
 * 4) THMWK
 * 1) Cobra
 * 1) King B Remix
 * 1) Supernova
 * 1) Terror Turtle

RAZ3R
England Scotland Wales Northern Ireland Canada Belgium South Africa Sri Lanka Japan Netherlands USA
 * 1) Razer
 * 2) Storm 2
 * 3) Thor (considering they were runners-up to Toxic 2 in the 2015 World Championships)
 * 1) PP3D
 * 2) Coyote
 * 1) Apollo
 * 2) The General
 * 1) Jellyfish
 * 1) Terror Turtle
 * 1) Cobra
 * 1) Crushtacean
 * 1) Supernova
 * 1) King B Remix
 * 1) Tough as Nails
 * 2) TMHWK
 * 1) Foxic

VulcansHowl
If we are dividing the UK representatives into four nations:

England
 * 1) Storm 2
 * 2) Razer
 * 3) Aftershock

Wales
 * 1) Apollo
 * 2) Robo Savage

Scotland
 * 1) PP3D
 * 2) Coyote

Northern Ireland
 * 1) Jellyfish

South Africa
 * 1) Crushtacean

Sri Lanka
 * 1) Supernova

The Netherlands
 * 1) Tough as Nails
 * 2) TMHWK

Belgium
 * 1) Cobra

Japan
 * 1) King B Remix

USA
 * 1) Foxic

Canada
 * 1) Terror Turtle

Vulcans Howl 18:41, April 23, 2017 (UTC)

Lewis05 Choices
PP3D (Scotland) Behemoth (England) The General (Wales) Jellyfish (N Ireland) Tough As Nails (Holland) Terror Turtle (Canada) Supernova (Sri Lanka) Crustacean (S Africa) (talk) 23:14, April 23, 2017 (UTC)

ToastUltimatum

 * 1) Razer (England)
 * 2) Storm2 (England)
 * 3) Thor (England)
 * 4) Apollo (Wales)
 * 5) Robo Savage (Wales)
 * 6) Jellyfish (Northern Ireland)
 * 7) PP3D (Scotland)
 * 8) Rusty (Scotland)
 * 9) Foxic (USA)
 * 10) Terror Turtle (Canada)
 * 11) Crushtacean (South Africa)
 * 12) Supernova (Sri Lanka)
 * 13) Tough as Nails (The Netherlands)
 * 14) TMHWK (The Netherlands)
 * 15) Cobra (Belgium)
 * 16) King B Remix (Japan)

Although I would appreciate links to fights of Mouse and Mega Melvin, not just a completed livestream. T OAS  T  18:21, April 24, 2017 (UTC)

SpaceManiac888

 * 1) Razer (England)
 * 2) Storm2 (England)
 * 3) Toxic 2 (England)
 * 4) Apollo (Wales)
 * 5) Robo Savage (Wales)
 * 6) Jellyfish (Northern Ireland)
 * 7) Coyote (Scotland)
 * 8) PP3D (Scotland)
 * 9) Foxic (USA)
 * 10) Terror Turtle (Canada)
 * 11) Crushtacean (South Africa)
 * 12) Supernova (Sri Lanka)
 * 13) Tough as Nails (The Netherlands)
 * 14) TMHWK (The Netherlands)
 * 15) Cobra (Belgium)
 * 16) King B Remix (Japan)

The list above is very good, but I have made two changes. The first is that I replaced Rusty with Coyote, because I think the latter has promise, especially when facing two grand finalists in the same episode. Also, I have added Toxic 2 to the list, because it is technically the current World Champion. SpaceManiac888  (Talk)  18:30, April 24, 2017 (UTC)