Talk:Robot Wars (2016 series)/Archive 2

Behind the scenes
Here's an article talking about some of the Behind the scenes features. (it's also got a cool bit of artwork at the top of page) http://www.wired.co.uk/article/new-robot-wars-2016-behind-the-scenes Diotoir the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 07:21, June 11, 2016 (UTC)


 * It's an interesting read, but it does make me wonder what EXACTLY is the format for this new series. I mean, their description doesn't seem to match what we know about the pilot, and even that was bogged down by time restraints. But it's clearly unlike anything we've had before...which only makes me want to hear something official. CrashBash (talk) 15:57, June 11, 2016 (UTC)

When I went to the Pilot it was 2 4 way melees nothing new there and then it made the remaining 4 battle it out with each other but getting the chance to fight everyone( Obviously that didn't happen in the Pilot due to time constraints. Then the 2 that win most battles fight it out in the final for a place in the grand final. Or at least that's what I'm assuming :) 321Annihilate (talk) 16:12, June 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * If that was the case for the pilot, why didn't Merlin face Turbulence in the final? Could the original plan for the pilot had been written up for the article, and at the last, they were force to change? So many questions, so little answers... --WolfwingandSlaveLeia (talk) 15:02, June 17, 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, we know that a robot might have to take part in as many as, 12, I think, fights to win...so goodness knows. CrashBash (talk) 15:10, June 17, 2016 (UTC)


 * Time. Plain and simple, they didn't have enough of it to run through all the battles they should've. Craaig (talk) 15:20, June 17, 2016 (UTC)
 * Seems like the only way they could fight 12 fights would be through a football style tournament after a 4 way melee with the rest of the robots in a heat, before another football style tournament in the grand final where every robot fights one another before a final. But that would be incredibly impractical. Seems misinformed to me. RelicRaider (talk) 15:34, June 17, 2016 (UTC)


 * The sooner we hear official news, the better. Not knowing exactly how everything is structured is really bugging me. CrashBash (talk) 17:28, June 17, 2016 (UTC)

They did officially tell us, Reaper had problems after its first round 2 fight and withdrew and Ka Pow was put through due to time constraints. 321Annihilate (talk) 19:37, June 17, 2016 (UTC)
 * No, I mean official news on the whole structure. And I don't just mean the heats. CrashBash (talk) 20:23, June 17, 2016 (UTC)


 * Reaper had no problems, they were just saving time by putting bots straight back in. Craaig (talk) 21:16, June 17, 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Craaig. We have may have a problem with what you said about Reaper, as we heard it couldn't fire its flipper as the pipes or the gas bottle or something else was acting and preventing it from self-righting and then not working. I take it Monte was in pilot thanks to Alan taking it there for any number of reasons. I am correct in thinking that Wrath managed to its self working after round 1 was done? --WolfwingandSlaveLeia (talk) 12:53, June 18, 2016 (UTC)
 * Whatever you heard was wrong, sorry to say :P Yes about Monte, no about Wraith. Craaig (talk) 13:37, June 18, 2016 (UTC)

So based around what Craaig said, Monte was there, at the pilot, because reasons. Wraith must have worked at some point during the filming or was the team falling under the curse of The Parthian Shot? Ironically, despite what the article and Andrew Robertson says, knowledge of the competitors expands. Now, I'm not going to reveal where the information is or which robots its about, but it exists. Having said that, is Death Metal the only house robot with a petrol engine, Craaig? --WolfwingandSlaveLeia (talk) 16:58, June 20, 2016 (UTC)

OK, so, we have the heat structure, I can follow that. This means we have up to nine fights in one heat. That does seem to push the heat for time, though...keeping in mind three minutes for each battle itself is about 27 minutes, adding a fair few minutes for interviews, introductions etc...I hope that's enough. I suppose the drop from five minutes to three minutes helps, but still... CrashBash (talk) 20:26, June 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * These episodes are sixty minutes long, as there's no ads. I definitely did worry about the idea of a montaged second round, but considering how long 60 minutes really is, I don't think it'll be necessary. What surprises me more is that the same two robots can potentially fight three times in one heat, in fact there's a 50% chance. Toast  Ultimatum  20:35, June 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * It does screw up our Episodes in which two robots fought twice category though. We could change it to "multiple times" and explain that it means 3 times in 2016 and twice in the original run. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 20:53, June 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * There's the potential of two robots fighting each other more than that...I mean, if one of those robots gets a wildcard through to the final. I'm beginning to ponder if this new heat-structure has anything to do with deciding the wildcard...the robot with the highest score to not make it through normally, perhaps. CrashBash (talk) 20:57, June 26, 2016 (UTC)

Robot Wars Trailer
Angela has said that filming for the trailer has happened, and mentions that it's coming "soon" https://twitter.com/angelascanlon/status/745177452603838464 Diotoir  the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 08:30, June 22, 2016 (UTC)

New Pictures
Hi everybody, just seen some new photos of the house robots which have just been posted on the Robot Wars Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/thisisrobotwars/

Liam Bryant (talk) 13:03, June 23, 2016 (UTC)
 * I'd like these to become the new main images on the House Robot articles. I'll be busy for a few hours due to the referendum and such, but if it's not done by tonight, I'll get it sorted. Toast  Ultimatum  14:47, June 23, 2016 (UTC)
 * What's the plan with regards to stats? List both and add the year in brackets? Craaig (talk) 15:08, June 23, 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, that depends if they reveal any official stats, but I do think we should be consistent and add the most-up-to-date stats we can. CrashBash (talk) 15:12, June 23, 2016 (UTC)
 * They already have, check the BBC Two FB/Twitter or URW Craaig (talk) 15:14, June 23, 2016 (UTC)
 * http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-06-23/this-is-the-first-proper-look-at-the-upgraded-robot-wars-2016-house-robots for some stats, or check on BBC Two's Twitter account. Diotoir  the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 15:29, June 23, 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't know about the BBC Two Twitter, but I do know that stats are on the BBC Two FB, with official images being on the URW FB page (thisisrobotwars, I believe). Edit: Diotoir beat me to the radio times link. --WolfwingandSlaveLeia (talk) 15:33, June 23, 2016 (UTC)

Y'know I wonder if we'll get some competitor images soon? First Angela gives info about the trailer(s) and now the official shots of the House Robots, what's next? Also I've noticed a little camera on Shunt. Diotoir the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 15:39, June 23, 2016 (UTC)
 * This is the official Facebook page, and it's been updated today. They've uploaded the photos of the House Robots there, and promise airing dates will be announced soon. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 16:08, June 23, 2016 (UTC)
 * Really guys? I was obviously adding all the images in the same format, I don't need two other people jumping in and getting the format wrong. I know we all want the edits and the pride of adding it, but allowing people to do it properly and all the same way is a better way to do it. We may need to set guidelines for how to add stuff to the wiki when the episodes are broadcast. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 16:32, June 23, 2016 (UTC)
 * I only added the old picture back because he removed it. Also I've seen on other wikias that you can get two images on the Infobox, sort of like a slideshow. I wonder if there's a way to do it for the House Robots? Diotoir  the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 16:35, June 23, 2016 (UTC)
 * Just trying to help. Plus, when I started no pages had been edited, only the uploads had happened. You might've just upped them and left it, how was I to know? We're all on the same level here lol... Craaig (talk) 16:36, June 23, 2016 (UTC)

Nobody is at fault for trying to update the articles at the same time, everybody's intentions were pure. I can, however, see what Jimlaad means with regards to making people aware of edits people are planning to make. Indeed, I've already written several articles about new competitors offline, and I am quite afraid of edit conflicts when posting these, and updating new ones. I would say that if you upload an image first, it's OK to say in the upload summary "I'm going to start/update this article now". I'd also like to send a Facebook message to any potential editor who knows the full list of competitors (so Sam and Diotoir, as far as I'm aware) which articles I have written, so that I can post them without fear. Heat articles, again the best way is to probably upload an image and state your intentions to write the page. I can say right now that I saw two second-round battles from Heats D and E live, so I'm probably the best one to write those. If a day has passed since a heat airing, I don't think we should have to worry about edit conflicts on any pages. Toast Ultimatum  18:41, June 23, 2016 (UTC)


 * And me. CrashBash (talk) 18:56, June 23, 2016 (UTC)
 * The way I see it, when the episodes are on, nobody should edit the wiki. Rather than trying to be the one to make the article ASAP, just sit back and enjoy the episodes first. After they are shown, use the wiki chat to discuss the episode and THEN work out in there who is going to do what edits. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 20:05, June 23, 2016 (UTC)
 * Noone in their right mind would be on the Internet while the episode is airing on TV, we've waited 13 years for this! Toast  Ultimatum  20:28, June 23, 2016 (UTC)
 * Likely I'd watch it, catch the general details, then watch on catch-up to see what I may have missed. CrashBash (talk) 20:39, June 23, 2016 (UTC)
 * No Sgt Bash... oh well... the others look pretty nasty though... 80.111.246.131 21:18, June 23, 2016 (UTC)

New teaser trailers
BBC 2's official Facebook page now has a couple of teaser trailers. They detail some of the robots, so don't watch if you don't want to be spoiled. SpaceManiac888 (talk) 13:53, June 25, 2016 (UTC)

The BBC's programme page for Robot Wars has been updated with three new teaser trailers and pages on the house robots. Each teaser is 15 seconds long and focusses on a competitor robot. The robot in teaser trailer three looks interesting to say the least. 81.96.24.141 14:22, June 25, 2016 (UTC)

YEEEEEEESSSS!!!!!:D On facebook teams who feature in the trailers are being allowed to confirm that they have entered, also is this a clue that Robot Wars maybe arriving closer than we think? Diotoir the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 14:23, June 25, 2016 (UTC)

I've looked closely at the second one and I can identify all of the robots. 321Annihilate (talk) 17:02, June 25, 2016 (UTC)

If you pause the videos during the battle scenes you can make out some other robots including an old favorite of mine. 321Annihilate (talk) 17:04, June 25, 2016 (UTC)

A little theory about the trailers I think that these robots are from Heat A because if you slow the trailer down you can see other robots that appear again and again. 321Annihilate (talk) 17:16, June 25, 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah I noticed that, except maybe trailer one which was different and certainly wasn't from Heat A. Diotoir  the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 17:43, June 25, 2016 (UTC)
 * They could be from Heat B and Heat D, given how they're shown. I'm curious as to why the floor flipper was flipping an active Storm 2, although this is probably part of "new" robot wars. The teasers seem to imply that the football type tournament is correct... I think. I'm not sure if what TR2 had during the most recent live event (Guilford or Portsmouth) will be present in the TV part, but its fun to guess. --WolfwingandSlaveLeia (talk) 17:53, June 25, 2016 (UTC)
 * I will say this two of these trailers do spoil the fact that these robots get past round one judging from the opponents fought. Diotoir  the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 18:26, June 25, 2016 (UTC)
 * They're definitely from two separate heats. Toast  Ultimatum  22:23, June 25, 2016 (UTC)

A bit of news, BBC One has advertised the Thor trailer on TV, don't know if this is completely true. Diotoir the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 20:19, June 25, 2016 (UTC)
 * It is indeed, I was watching at the time. Combatwombat555 (talk) 20:21, June 25, 2016 (UTC)

Has anyone noticed the quotes on the House Robots pages are taken directly from here? CrashBash (talk) 22:16, June 25, 2016 (UTC)
 * I can't find the source of those quotes at all, to be honest. Toast  Ultimatum  22:23, June 25, 2016 (UTC)

I've just seen the 2nd trailer on BBC Two. J im laa  d4   3 (talk) 20:14, June 26, 2016 (UTC)

Releasing Articles
So we've had our trailers, and three robots received a large spotlight. Their respective Facebook pages are now allowed to talk about their involvement with the series. Additionally, other robots were revealed simply by being in the footage, and most are recognisable ones that we COULD update the articles for, but some who didn't notice might call it a spoiler, especially when I saw a brand-new robot that few people recognised, due to the fact I saw it at my live filming session. The way I see it, we've got three options, and I'd like to see some votes on what we should do.

Option 1
Sign below if you think we should update the articles of the three veterans who received spotlight in the three trailers
 * I just feel this is the safer bet. I mean, we and the majority of both casual and hardcore fans will recognise most of the robots in the trailers, but BBC may not be best pleased with the wiki if we publish all of the other confirmed names. I think we should play this safe and just include these three robots. SpaceManiac888 (talk) 19:24, June 25, 2016 (UTC)
 * This would be the option I agree with. Vampireweekend4ever (talk) 20:30, June 25, 2016 (UTC)
 * This one we know who these 3 are because there in the whole of it but the others we are not sure on, this trailer is not a spoiler because the bbc have released to there own youtube and they would not release it if it would spoil the show! Dylanr21 (talk) 20:50, June 25, 2016 (UTC)
 * Just the three in the trailers, none others. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 20:57, June 25, 2016 (UTC)
 * Totally agree, play it safe. Drop Zone mk2 (talk) 09:32, June 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * I would like to point out that the live event flipper has gone out of their way to say that they're in the new series, so yeah I don't think "playing it out safe" is much of a worry now, well to those who appear in the trailers. Diotoir  the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 09:44, June 26, 2016 (UTC)

Option 2
Sign below if you think we should do the above, and update the obvious veteran returners and obvious live circuit robots, but not the newcomers that were built specifically for the series
 * Toast Ultimatum  17:49, June 25, 2016 (UTC)
 * I think we should say they're in the new series as it's been officialy confirmed, keeping it hidden seems like silly idea and makes us seem oblivious to the obvious. Up date the images but technical info we will have to wait for unless the teams say something. Diotoir the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 18:02, June 25, 2016 (UTC)
 * A lot of people are likely to have seen the reddit post anyway containing the names of 35 of the 40 robots, so I'm happy with this. The R A Z 3R (talk) 18:18, June 25, 2016 (UTC)
 * I personally do not mind, but I feel this is the easiest option. It allows us to update extra details that are not related to the actual performance of robots in the 2016 Series, and is also from an official source. I don't see much to suggest us needing to hold this information back. Nweston8 (talk) 18:55, June 25, 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm torn between this one and option 1- the 3 main competitors featured in the trailers are givens, but I feel like we should include other robots only if we're absolutely certain that they're in. Seeing as others feel like they're obvious, I'm happy with this. `Combatwombat555 (talk) 19:07, June 25, 2016 (UTC)
 * We are certain about the robots in the trailers - at least four users here know all 40 competitors, including myself. Even Storm2's mysterious opponent, I happen to know it, but that's an article I won't publish as it'd be slightly more spoilery than a veteran or a robot that fights at Robot Wars live. I believe the spinner fighting Thor had its name painted on it, but I'd avoid that one for now too. Toast  Ultimatum  19:10, June 25, 2016 (UTC)
 * You could always make the article but only have live event info or just say they will be in 2016 and will be fighting these robots in Round 1. Diotoir  the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 19:13, June 25, 2016 (UTC)
 * That's the plan if we get community concensus - I messaged Jimlaad and CrashBash on Facebook and Drop Zone over the wiki, hopefully I can get a response before the day ends. Toast  Ultimatum  19:18, June 25, 2016 (UTC)
 * It's hardly a secret to anyone who's seen it, and we can always delete them if things do turn out bad. CrashBash (talk) 21:43, June 25, 2016 (UTC)
 * Why deny what has been revealed? Sam (BAZINGA) 23:51, June 25, 2016 (UTC)

Option 3
Sign below if you think we should leave all competitor articles alone until the episodes air, regardless of how obvious they are
 * This would probably be the best option available, as add/edit 8 robots between the heats showing up on TV. It would also allow us to check for errors in the robot's history and mistakes on the stats. I don't know if anyone else was join me based around this idea... --WolfwingandSlaveLeia (talk) 17:59, June 25, 2016 (UTC)
 * Voting this. Doing this means no incorrect information could be inadvertently shared. Craaig (talk) 10:05, June 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * Bit late but, I don't trust people NOT to spoil in all honesty. Certain people have been itching to get their hands on info and share it since it was first announced, this freedom to post could end up with excuses to update less obvious veterans and robots. I'd be happy to wait till the episodes have aired. It's one per week anyway so there'll be tonnes of time to update before episode 2. They're on iPlayer too for a month each so screen caps shouldn't be an issue. RelicRaider (talk) 08:09, June 27, 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid you're too late, voting ended yesterday. Diotoir the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 11:18, June 27, 2016 (UTC)
 * That's not true. People can offer an input at any point. The concensus still says we're likely going to keep Storm2, Thor and Sabretooth, but this vote makes it clear that we shouldn't be reporting on any of the more hidden/spoilery robots, and if it becomes true that so many people want to remove the information on Storm2 and friends, we'll have to comply. Toast  Ultimatum  18:19, June 27, 2016 (UTC)

Results
Please do NOT put any results from the Teaser Trailer on the robots page, that IS a step too far. J im laa  d4   3 (talk) 11:55, June 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * Always gonna be a problem if you're adding some information but not all of it. Need to clearly define what you are and aren't updating if you're going to insist on updating articles before airing. Craaig (talk) 12:12, June 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * The way I see it is that, yes say that they're in the series but don't put any results down until the episode has aired. Diotoir  the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 12:33, June 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * To be fair, from what I saw, only one/two robots that the teaser trailer robots had faced were put into the results section, not the actual outcome of the battle. Understand the concern though. Nweston8 (talk) 12:55, June 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * You're right it didn't have outcomes just robots it faced. But I think that fact that two of the trailers clearly had shown more than one round involved which would have meant that putting down the robot and who they fought could in its self spoil outcomes. Diotoir  the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 13:09, June 26, 2016 (UTC)
 * This is why I don't like us putting anything in, because there will always be points when too much is put in by someone, and people who don't want to read it then stumble upon it and get it spoiled and have to revert it. On the wiki, we should play the side of caution at all times. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 14:58, June 26, 2016 (UTC)

Final episode of Top Gear
BBC 2's Twitter page has announced that the Top Gear episode this Sunday will be the last in the series. Because of this, and the fact that BBC 2 is advertising Robot Wars currently, does this mean that Robot Wars will be coming in only a couple of weeks time, in the rumoured slot that Top Gear once filled? Curious. SpaceManiac888 (talk) 11:15, June 29, 2016 (UTC)
 * I sure hope so, as I'll be in Australia for three weeks at the end of August-beginning of September, so I hope it's over before then. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 13:33, June 29, 2016 (UTC)


 * I guess we won't have long to find out. Here's hoping it does better than Top Gear did. CrashBash (talk) 13:40, June 29, 2016 (UTC)
 * Didn't realize that Top Gear was doing quite badly. Hopefully Robot Wars can do alot better. --WolfwingandSlaveLeia (talk) 15:05, June 29, 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, you show me the annoying male ginger presenter of Robot Wars. You can't as they isn't a presenter of that description. People don't like Chris Evans (the Marvel guy is awesome though). Plus, Dara likes technology and Angela sounds like she's made for the job so I doubt Robot Wars will bomb like No Gear. Sam (BAZINGA) 17:14, June 29, 2016 (UTC)
 * Chris Evans isn't that bad. I don't see why he gets so much hate. 80.111.246.131 22:44, July 3, 2016 (UTC)
 * He's better on the radio and even then I don't listen to his show. Sam (BAZINGA) 23:48, July 3, 2016 (UTC)

New airdate?
Now as we have known the airdate was said by an article by the Radiotimes that it would be in August but Dara has just tweeted this:https://twitter.com/daraobriain/status/748627239898595328 So it seems it could be this month! At the end of it that is. Diotoir the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 14:50, July 1, 2016 (UTC)

Exciting it would only make sense to release it sooner with Top Gear ending and all. Plus we have been waiting 13 years! 321Annihilate (talk) 16:06, July 1, 2016 (UTC)

I wonder if this is related to battlebots and the round of 32, in which - spoilers - Warhead and Beta are a apart of... --WolfwingandSlaveLeia (talk) 17:40, July 1, 2016 (UTC)

Quick question: if it starts before the Olympics, will they be able to fit it in with some of the coverage, or give it a week or two off? 80.111.246.131 18:02, July 8, 2016 (UTC)

Launch Trailer
Now that the launch trailer has been released, should other robots seen in the trailer be confirmed too? There were certainly 3 or 4 robots which could be easily identified in the new trailer from 2 days ago and I was just wondering whether it would be right or not to confirm them. The R A Z 3R (talk) 12:54, July 5, 2016 (UTC)
 * They're no more or less confirmed than robots like E******* that appeared in the teaser trailers. According to the vote, we can still only cover Storm2, Thor and Sabretooth. Toast  Ultimatum  13:59, July 5, 2016 (UTC)
 * I've just looked at the vote and noticed that option 1 had 5 votes whereas option 2 had 7 votes...just saying. Diotoir the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 14:36, July 5, 2016 (UTC)
 * I believe this was more of a consensus vote, rather than a majority vote. It's not that the seven votes on option two did not count; it was that the two vote majority wasn't considered an unanimous victory (Which is what Wikipedia deems "no consensus" either). This is especially so with this controversial debate, where the wrong move could cause problems for this wiki. SpaceManiac888 (talk) 14:42, July 5, 2016 (UTC)
 * Remember that Option 3 had three votes. That means the total number of people that said no to E******* and friends was greater than the total number of votes for Option 2. I myself have started to lean towards Option 1 now anyway. Toast  Ultimatum  14:45, July 5, 2016 (UTC)

Really, the only ones we should confirm are the ones which the teams are allowed to confirm their involvement. J im laa  d4   3 (talk) 14:55, July 5, 2016 (UTC)

Facebook-Confirmed Entry
Although our concensus was that we'd only update the Sabretooth, Thor and Storm2 articles with 2016 status, there was one robot from the teasers which has been given the freedom to post about their participation on their Facebook page, and starred heavily in two trailers. I could revive that article pretty easily, while still leaving all the other indirect trailer robot reveals offline until the show airs. Would anyone be against this article cmoming back? Toast Ultimatum  18:05, July 6, 2016 (UTC)


 * I wouldn't. If they've been allowed, I don't see what the problem is. CrashBash (talk) 18:08, July 6, 2016 (UTC)
 * If the team have been allowed, then it should be fine to make the article. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 18:14, July 6, 2016 (UTC)
 * Same reasons as above. However, what about the main picture? Seeing as it has that firery decor in the series. Diotoir the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 18:56, July 6, 2016 (UTC)
 * Maybe it'd be safest to stick with a decent quality picture of it outside RW2016, and then edit a more up-to-date picture as and when we can. CrashBash (talk) 19:08, July 6, 2016 (UTC)

Hi, just a quick note from the builders of this robot. I don't believe any teams have yet been given permission to confirm their participation in the main series, all we have been able to say so far is that it does appear in the trailers. However please do not mix this up with confirmation of it being on the TV series (for example there is nothing to suggest this is not just footage from "test fights", as has been used in BattleBots trailers). Obviously through these trailers the BBC have shown that Eruption fought in the new Robot Wars arena, but please wait for BBC confirmation before making any conclusions as to whether or not it is to appear on the actual show. Thanks


 * Please remember to sign your posts when on a talk page. If you're going to worry about privacy, that's not going to be an issue, as your signature will simply be your IP. CrashBash (talk) 05:40, July 7, 2016 (UTC)


 * That really isn't the major issue here, I don't have a wiki account and I'm posting here because this has been brought to our attention and directly concerns us. Us sharing a screenshot from the trailer on our Facebook page does NOT constitute any form of confirmation, and everybody needs to be very careful as to what they are assuming before writing these articles. If anyone is unsure as to what can and cannot be written please feel free to message us on our FB page. Thanks, Michael


 * Well, seems like the BBC has answered our issue for us. I know that wasn't the major issue, but I also knew I wasn't the best person to suggest anything. Hence I decided to just stick a small reminder. Rest assured we do appriciate your concern. CrashBash (talk) 13:05, July 7, 2016 (UTC)

BBC Robot Wars website update
The BBC Programmes Robot Wars website has been updated with pages on the battle rules, arena stats and series format (Heats are now Qualifiers)  and an interview with Dara and Angela  which has some useful profile pictures and shows them standing next to Sir Killalot, Matilda and Shunt, giving a greater perspective of just how large the new house robots are. --81.96.24.141 10:38, July 7, 2016 (UTC)

The BBC media office have also released the Robot Wars media pack which includes a FULL COMPETITOR LIST IN AN OFFICIAL BBC DOCUMENT AVALIABLE TO THE PUBLIC! --81.96.24.141 10:42, July 7, 2016 (UTC)


 * Wow! That's a lot of updates, thank you! Diotoir the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 10:49, July 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * Sweet! It's getting closer! J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 10:52, July 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * One thing - spoilers, I guess? - TR2 is fighting Thor (Carbide could also face Thor, but who cares about that) during trailer 1. This could mean two things that I'm sure don't need spelling out for another wiki member. It also makes me wonder what whiteboard matches we could miss out on. --WolfwingandSlaveLeia (talk) 11:07, July 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * Soooo... should I start reviving all the deleted articles, and update the veterans pages? I've got a long train ride in five hours, so I want to start immediately if I can. Toast  Ultimatum  11:36, July 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * I would say so. The list has been officially revealed now, so we may as well reflect that on the wiki. Nweston8 (talk) 11:55, July 7, 2016 (UTC)

We now have pictures and information on every single robot due to the official website being updated http://www.robotwars.tv/competitors/ Nweston8 (talk) 12:17, July 7, 2016 (UTC)

Competitors Revealed - What to Do?
Alright, now that we've had time to get over the initial excitement of the competitor list, it's time to decide what we should do. I updated Terror Turtle due to its position in the trailer, and Supernova because of their... unsubtlety, but beyond that, we need a clear opinion.

Now although the names of every single competitor was released through the publicly downloadable press kit, there are still definitely some articles that I think we shouldn't upload, thus I'm not listing these as an option. For example, we now know the names of Pulsar and PP3D, and I have indeed written articles about these robots already, but as there's no images of these robots publicly revealed yet (unless you know what you're looking for), it would be unfair of us to release information on these competitors before their respective teams could. That said, we have a few options, and this is ignoring the fact that Diotoir already updated the Series Records on all of the competitors.

I'm going to place my own vote after reading some others, as I'm currently undecided. Toast Ultimatum  12:14, July 7, 2016 (UTC)

Option 1
'''Carry on as if the press kit never happened. We continue our spoiler-free attitude, and don't release anything about the competitors until the episodes have aired. Vote here if this is your opinion.'''

Option 2
'''Update all the veteran's articles to confirm their participation, which episode they will take part in, and any changes that may have been made to their robot. Please note that Beast has a separate article to 8645T, and is not included within this category. Vote here if this is your opinion.'''

Option 3
'''Alongside all of Option 2, we release articles on the live competitors which are now competing in the new series, such as TR2, and gradually bring back the articles of the newcomers that failed to qualify as well. This would only exclude articles on robots which are exclusively seen on the series, such as the aforementioned PP3D and Pulsar. Vote here if this is your opinion.'''

Or maybe there is an Option 4 after all
Welp, thanks for the catch Nweston8, every competitor just got its own page on the official website. I guess there's nothing to stop us from updating now. I'll make a start. Toast Ultimatum  12:21, July 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * I was going to write something long and ridiculous down, but I've decided to screw it and go with the easiest option. --WolfwingandSlaveLeia (talk) 12:33, July 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * Can we use the images for the official website as the main images? I'm guessing not but I'm just checking. The R A Z 3R (talk) 13:15, July 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * It does allow you to send them messages, it might be worth asking before taking. J  im laa  d4   3 (talk) 13:23, July 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * You can, its just that Shockwave and Overdozer currently don't have official images (Shockwave has Will and his dad), so we might have to wait. Alternatively, we could try and get images from when the episodes air or from YouTube. It feels weird that both Will and Ellis aren't entering heavyweight versions of their featherweights (Tormenta 3, Rango, Inertia XL, Heatwave and Shockwave with the pneumatic flipper) but rather completely new robots. --WolfwingandSlaveLeia (talk) 13:27, July 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * Shockwave isn't technically new, it dates from 2002. Sam (BAZINGA) 23:26, July 7, 2016 (UTC)


 * I think right now, it's best we work with what we've got. CrashBash (talk) 13:24, July 7, 2016 (UTC)

I have a feeling that Glitterbomb is a rebranded Edge Hog (compare the series 6 pic of Edge Hog and the picture of Glitterbomb on its own to get why I think that). Sam (BAZINGA) 13:48, July 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * A picture for Overdozer can be found at http://www.robotwars.tv/media/1155/overdozer1.jpg it seems that there may have been some problem with the website as I found the link by looking at the source code for the page. --81.96.24.141 13:33, July 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that, uploading it now. Toast  Ultimatum  13:41, July 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * I think its what happened to Edge Hog after retiring. --WolfwingandSlaveLeia (talk) 14:39, July 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * Alex "Shakey" Shakespeare has confirmed that Glitterbomb IS Edge Hog. Sam (BAZINGA) 17:42, July 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * Could you give me a link to that? Toast  Ultimatum  17:44, July 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * https://www.facebook.com/groups/UnofficialRobotWars/permalink/461395700806867/?comment_id=461530284126742&reply_comment_id=461531087459995&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R9%22%7D Go down to my comment about Glitterbomb being similar in shape to Edge Hog and you'll see his reply, confirming that Glitterbomb is EdgeHog. Sam (BAZINGA) 18:05, July 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * Uppdate from Rachel Prince (someone from the Glitterbomb team): "Glitterbomb is not Edgehog 😀 as Edgehog in my lock up, but we did borrow the axe mech as we had only 4 weeks to build it so approx 15kg of Edgehog is in GlitterBomb. But well spotted." I was kinda right that Edge Hog is connected to Glitterbomb. Sam (BAZINGA) 22:37, July 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for clearing that up, I wanted to find out that information before writing the article. Toast  Ultimatum  22:51, July 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * You're welcome, for some reason, Glitterbomb just screamed Edge Hog and know I why. Kinda cool that Rachel has given away Edge Hog's current location as well. Sam (BAZINGA) 23:07, July 7, 2016 (UTC)

Looking ahead a little bit.
Not too far ahead, but far ahead enough. When the heat write-ups occur, are we still going to use the same system we did before in regards to veterans and newcomers? In other words, they're a newcomer if the team have not previously competed in the televised UK championship (which would make robots like Draven and The General "newcomers" despite having appeared in side events in the original run). And considering how many teams have changed, what are we considering veterans and/or newcomers anyway? I'm asking this now since we have practically all the details of the robots and teams. CrashBash (talk) 15:41, July 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't really see a point, especially when some teams like PP3D Robotics are very hard to classify. Toast  Ultimatum  15:46, July 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * I think its best we use the original format that you mentioned Crash. I think that veterans should just be robots that fought in the original 7 series, with newcomers being competitors from extreme or any side event, with Kill-e-Crank-e and PP3D being newcomers under these rules. --WolfwingandSlaveLeia (talk) 15:48, July 7, 2016 (UTC)

Episode 1 round 1
The photos on the official site of the arena clearly shows Carbide, Behemoth, The General and Bonk fighting. Are we allowed to mention this or not yet. Diotoir the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 16:52, July 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * I guess that's fair, I already updated Razer's page to say they'd fight Terrorhurtz. Toast  Ultimatum  16:56, July 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * Then by process of elimination they're also fighting Nuts and Kill-E Crank-E CrashBash (talk) 17:07, July 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * There is an image on the website which proves this, but i won't upload due to it seriously spoiling results and I mean seriously spoiling results! All I'll say is it's the reason why one of the hazard pictures are missing from Robot Wars Arena/2016 series. Diotoir the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 17:11, July 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * You wouldn't know that if you didn't know the results... User:Garfie489 18:50, July 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm fairly sure you would by simply LOOKING AT THE PICTURE! And considering that every first round is a round one melee, yeah it's very obvious. Diotoir  the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 17:56, July 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * The main solution is to simply do what've been doing - editing pages for who fights who. We might have to wait for a official picture of the pit... --WolfwingandSlaveLeia (talk) 17:58, July 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * I do have to ask though, did exhibition matches take place between episodes? Because if not, a couple of those trailers have enormous spoilers in them if you're vigilant. RelicRaider (talk) 22:59, July 7, 2016 (UTC)
 * I noticed the enormous spoilers as well. I hoping that most of the matches were in fact whiteboard matches/exhibitions and that the melees were in fact the real matches. Surely that could have been addressed by the guys making the trailers, I guess? --WolfwingandSlaveLeia (talk) 06:30, July 8, 2016 (UTC)

House Robots POV video
Ooo a new video show off the House Robots in action has emerged. WARNING! the first 10 seconds spoil outcomes big time!http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p040ptqf Diotoir  the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 18:19, July 7, 2016 (UTC)

Meet the House Robots
Just found this page on the BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p040cvp9 a 5 minute programme on 11th July 2016 (probably iPlayer exclusive) with the following blurb. Back in the days when the internet was a little baby, and we had to make our own entertainment… we all watched a programme called Robot Wars. Full of clever people who made robots in their garages that smashed each other up for fun. In the arena keeping order were a team of angry robots called the House Robots. They were there to keep the peace or if they felt like it, smash, bash and crash the competitors on a whim.

But when the show finished, the House Robots went into retirement.

Shunned by their public, they never lost sight of the dream.

Over the years they have evolved, growing bigger, badder and much much more dangerous. Now they’re back and this time they’re really cross.

The presenters have also been rebooted, the competitors are ready to fight, and the new series of Robot Wars is back.

3, 2, 1, Activate. --81.96.24.141 08:34, July 9, 2016 (UTC)
 * Great find! Can't wait to see this! May give us some further detail on them. Hopefully an early glimpse of the graphics and music too! Prodworthy  (Talk)  10:34, July 9, 2016 (UTC)
 * Only five minutes long? I'm guessing it'll just be a run down of the weaponry and armour etc and nothing too special. Diotoir the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 10:56, July 9, 2016 (UTC)

First review
The first review of the new series. https://twitter.com/grahamkw/status/751528420048244736 It's no Flop Gear, luckily. Diotoir the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 18:13, July 9, 2016 (UTC)
 * I strongly doubt it will be as good as the original show. 80.111.246.131 00:02, July 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * Maybe not, but Robot wars doesn't rely on its hosts as heavily as Top Gear, and the integral parts of the show are still there, even if the format's a bit weird. I don't plan to go in with nostalgia tinted glasses, I've been waiting around 12 years for this and had just about given up hope, so any robot wars on air at all is a astonishing after so long. RelicRaider (talk) 00:52, July 11, 2016 (UTC)
 * True that. May the robots rise for 2016 and beat the hell out of each other until only one survives. 80.111.246.131 10:22, July 11, 2016 (UTC)

Passion Distribution Robot Wars Brand Presentation
Some digging about on the Passion Distribution (the official distributors for the new series and under the same ownership as Mentorn) website has revealed this http://www.passiondistribution.com/media/140427/robot-wars_format-presentation_passion-distribution_2016.pdf This is what they would show/distribute to potential entities interested in showing the new series or having their own version. Some interesting excerpts: --Voyanuitoa (talk) 13:39, July 12, 2016 (UTC)
 * The live audience capacity is 400.
 * "The series features news sections on technological advances".
 * During its original run, Robot Wars attained 27% share in the 16-34 demographic on BBC2 and The Premiere of Robot Wars on MTV's TNN saw 144% more adults 18-25 than prior 4 week period.
 * Interesting stuff, the audience capacity can be added to Robot Wars Arena/2016 series. Toast  Ultimatum  15:21, July 12, 2016 (UTC)

Airing
Can't specify if this is true but according to some people tomorrow Metorn may reveal the air date officially. That said I've also read that in a TV Guide it states that next week Robot Wars will be back, though I don't really know if this is true. Diotoir the  son  of  nemesis  (talk) 17:28, July 12, 2016 (UTC)
 * Next week is highly unlikely as, apart from any emergency changes to schedules, the BBC (and other broadcasters) has already published programme information for next week, a quick search of online TV listings for Robot Wars on any channel next week returns nothing. The BBC's programme information for week 31(Saturday 30th July-Friday 5th August) http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/proginfo/search?medium=tv&channel=&yearweek=31&day= will be updated by 3pm Thursday, based on Angela Scanlon's comments on The Dermot O'Leary Show on BBC Radio 2 (It "might" be on at weekends) and the fact that there has been no mention of it in the preceding weeks but a July date has been confirmed, it makes it likely that it will either be Saturday 30th or Sunday 31st of July. --Voyanuitoa (talk) 17:50, July 12, 2016 (UTC)

Sunday, 24th July, 8PM
Remember that date guys. Remember that date... SpaceManiac888 (talk) 09:21, July 13, 2016 (UTC)

http://www.radiotimes.com/tv-programme/e/d84fhq/robot-wars--series-1-episode-1 Radio Times are also saying that date and time, we may have confirmation here! --Voyanuitoa (talk) 09:25, July 13, 2016 (UTC)

What a risk, putting it on at 8pm on a Sunday... 95.83.250.176 09:55, July 13, 2016 (UTC)
 * Actually, not really. Robot Wars has almost always been a family show, so an 8pm timeslot means that children can watch it and parents won't have to worry about the post-watershed. If it was on a weekday, fewer people would watch as they would have to go to work or school the following day. Friday and Saturday meanwhile, have their own issues as most people typically go out during that night to celebrate the weekend (which is why Friday is known as the "death slot"). Sunday meanwhile is a bit more relaxed in my opinion and is perfect for a show like Robot Wars to have a timeslot on. SpaceManiac888 (talk) 11:01, July 13, 2016 (UTC)
 * When Five aired it on Sundays, it did pretty badly. 95.83.250.176 11:04, July 13, 2016 (UTC)

https://www.facebook.com/UKRobotWars/photos/a.576214792542874.1073741829.567507380080282/648768198620866/?type=3&theater We have official confirmation! --Voyanuitoa (talk) 10:58, July 13, 2016 (UTC)
 * Didn't we already have official confirmation from the Facebook link I shared? SpaceManiac888 (talk) 11:01, July 13, 2016 (UTC)
 * The official Robot Wars Facebook account is UKRobotWars, not thisisrobotwars whose description states "This page is not connected to the show's creators, presenters, the BBC, Channel 5 or any other UK TV channel that shows it. This page is reactively moderated." --Voyanuitoa (talk) 11:14, July 13, 2016 (UTC)