User talk:RA2/Archive 5

Archive
Done, as promised.-- STORM  II   19:37, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Replica tournament
Just out of curiosity, have you decided when you're going to start showing the battles yet? Christophee (talk) 20:42, January 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * One battle a day with the finale on the 17th is what people seem to want, so that means I'll start a few days before the first of the month (insurance against being unable to upload one every day). Do you think people will be ok with me doing them without music?  I haven't been able to make revenue on any video with the purportedly public domain music.

'''R A 2 ; aka Resetti's Replicas. ( My Talk )''' 00:06, January 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * Will you keep the sound effects from the actual game or just have silence? I don't really mind what you do, it's totally your decision. Just to be totally clear, the anniversary is on the 18th. Maybe you knew that already and people want the final a day early, but I'm just making sure you know. Christophee (talk) 21:02, January 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh I mistyped then, I meant the 18th. I will of course keep the sound effects, but the revenue thing, I have very strong feelings about - I mean if iJustine can make millions off of footage of her playing Portal 2 (very incompetently, I might add), then I feel like I should get a slice of that from my videos that are technically video game footage but mostly a showacse of my artwork.  But to get to the point, I'll probably get a few done this weekend. R A 2 ; aka Resetti's Replicas.  ( My Talk ) 23:19, January 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * I totally understand your point of view. If I had videos that were eligible for revenue, then I would want to claim it too. I look forward to seeing the opening battles. Christophee (talk) 15:08, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Playlists
If you want any series of robot wars, look at my user page.Madlooney6 (talk)

Competition Records
Is it worthwhile having somebody create a list of the fixtures for the Wiki Wars 2, and then update each one as a result as you upload them, on the Wiki Wars 2 page? Datovidny (talk) 17:20, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you mean by "fixtures"? R A 2 ; aka Resetti's Replicas. ( My Talk ) 17:37, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * It's basically a UK expression for matches/match-ups. I know somebody set up an image of the tree last time, which was updated after each battle. Something like that would be quite good. Christophee (talk) 20:12, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

Splinter
Great work with the Splinter replica I sent you. I don't think it was half that good when I finished with it. Is there any chance you could send me the finished robot so I can use it on my game? Christophee (talk) 15:12, February 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Here, I've uploaded it for you. It's DSL compatible, I think, http://gametechmods.com/../uploads/files/splinter.zip R A 2 ; aka Resetti's Replicas.  ( My Talk ) 16:03, February 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. I'll try it later and let you know whether it works. Christophee (talk) 16:10, February 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * I've downloaded the file and imported it into one of my teams, and it works great. However, I was wondering whether it would be possible to add it to one of the AI teams too so I can battle against it. Can that be done, and if so, how? Christophee (talk) 20:07, February 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry if I'm coming off as a pain here, but I wasn't sure whether you had noticed my previous message since you replied to other messages on this page and not that one. I tried to find an answer online but failed in my search. Christophee (talk) 20:08, February 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh right, that. it's a little much to explain here, but there's a useful Guide to AI'ing on the front page of gametechmods.com. The weapon type you want is "OmniMultiZone," which I forget if it comes standard with DSL.  You might as well get learned on general AI'ing while you're at it, it's hard to do just one without learnigng how to AI completely. R A 2 ; aka Resetti's Replicas.  ( My Talk ) 20:33, February 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that. I managed to add the robot to the empty space in "Team RA2" and it moves as it should, but it doesn't fire its weapons. It still has the smartzones you set for it, so I don't understand the problem. Is the file you sent me all ready to work as an AI bot or do I need to do something to it? Also, I really don't understand all the information in the "Bindings.py" file, so I don't know whether I've set it up right. Any chance you could send me the line you used for that file? Christophee (talk) 16:02, February 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * list.append(("Splinter","OmniMultiZone",{'nose':math.pi,'range':99,'invertible':False,'radius':0.1,'topspeed':99,'throttle':100,'turn':50,'turnspeed':2.5, 'weapons':(1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12)}))


 * Get rid of any indents that may have carried overR A 2 ; aka Resetti's Replicas. ( My Talk ) 16:32, February 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * It turns out that OmniMultiZone doesn't come with DSL, so the game freezes if I try to use it. Do you know where I can get the file from? Christophee (talk) 14:39, February 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * Here try this. The OmniMultiZone file goes in the AI folder: http://gametechmods.com/../uploads/files/Sonny_NW4.zip  R A 2 ; aka Resetti's Replicas.  ( My Talk ) 14:54, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * It works! Thank you ever so much for all your help. Hopefully you didn't find all my questions too annoying. Christophee (talk) 15:10, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Help Needed With RARs
Just out of interest, how do you extract RAR files with 7zip? I've a RAR for the computer but I don't know how to extract the file. The help pages and website were both as useful as a chocolate teapot. Is it actually possible or do I need to look elsewhere?-- STORM  II   20:38, February 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * It's OK, I worked out how.-- STORM  II   22:35, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

Said Comments
Hi, I read what you said on the list of comments on my request for promotion. I'll admit, MOST of your comments were fair, but I would like to justify myself, in the hopes that I can redeem myself slightly in your eyes.

Firstly, the whole Contributions list thing, I originally started that when I could fit my contributions into one small little section of my userpage, just to prove that I was doing something, but then one thing lead to another and it became quite a list, I just chose not to get rid of it at first. Mind you, you were right, and I have deleted all of the stuff on that Contributions page, but since I don't know how, as an admin, you're going to have to delete the page properly now. I'm sorry if me having that Contributions page has been a bit of a "slap in the face" to you and any other admins here.

Secondly, the badges thing, yes, maybe my edits weren't SUPREME for every single one, and maybe my Badges list is quite long, but then, it wasn't me that gave myself all those badges, I mean yes I specifically asked Christophee, TG and Matt for badges on many occasions, but I did say after each ask, "if I need to add anything, then I will", but they still gave me the badges most of the time. So really, I don't see why or how you can have a go at ME for that.

Thirdly, the "fluff" was just me trying to give articles a bit of bulk. Yes, maybe they weren't necessary, but almost all of the time I have tried to put a lot of useful stuff on there. But when there's little I can think of to put on an article, and clearly nobody else can, if the article is given a bit of body, then it doesn't look so pathetic when the unauthorised users are browsing through the articles. But then again, if it is a style of editing that you disaprove of, then I'll try and cut those sorts of edits down to a minimum.

Finally, with all due respect, I'll be damned if I'm going to just sit by and let you talk about how a lot of what I do here is utter ****! From the day I have been on this wiki, I have worked incredibly hard and have tried my best to make the wiki the best it can be like the rest of you! I've been on here almost every day since September 2010 making sure of that!! Claiming that my edits haven't been "equitable" to yours all of the time is to be fair self-centred and ignorant, perhaps one or two, but I have made many articles much more impressive than they were, maybe you've been here longer than me, but I've still been here a while, and I've seen dozens of articles at their worst, and without trying to be full of myself, they'd still be in that state if it wasn't for some of my "Essay Edits"!!! I assure you, I'm not a gloryhound! I've sat by and let users and admins walk all over me at times, but I don't complain!

I'm genuinely sorry if I've come off as rude here, but I think it's fair if I get THIS off MY chest! User:Datovidny (talk) 15:47, February 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * You have nothing to "redeem" yourself for, my intent was just to help you as you moved further. But you have the right to speak your piece, and I will listen. I hope you will recopricate and allow me to respond/clarify to you.  I'll go one paragraph at a time.


 * I woudn't call it a "slap in the face" to anybody, it just came across like a peacock bearing its feathers.


 * I only brought it up because you used it as a qualifier.


 * That's exactly what I was talking about with the whole "less is more" thing. An article doesn't come across as pathetic just because it's compact or succinct. Redundant information is redundant - it's not necessary to always put the series, heat number, and link to the opponent's page in the battle summary when all of that already exists in the infobox.  And trivia too was getting unnecessarily saturated; the trivia section is for facts that aren't already in the article, and/or can't be easily inferred (exapmles of easily inferred would be that a robot who never appeared on TV never got flipped, or that a robot who was the only to do something was also the first and last)  It wasn't simply that there was large amount of content, it's because you sometimes didn't pay attention to surrounding pieces - I've seen sentences with three "however" clauses as a result of being "bulked."


 * I did not use that word. I'm not arguing that you haven't made the wiki the best it can be, nor that you haven't worked hard.  When I said your edits weren't equitable to mine, I meant only the pages where we both received badges (Supernova, Behemoth, Stinger are the ones I can remeber off the top of my head).  I doubt you're going to agree with me on that front, but I won't speak anymore of it if you won't.  I apologize if what I said came across as that harsh, I do not agree with those put-downs you assigned to yourself in that last paragraph.  I gave you my support, I told you it wouldn't impede your promotion, that should tell you how much faith I have in you when all is said and done - a quick look through the request archives will show you that I don't approve of just anyone. What I'm offering is simply advice and observations, it is yours to accept or reject.  Pre-emptive congrats by the way, you're unlikely to fail your promotion with an admin and a beauraucrat's support. R A 2 ; aka Resetti's Replicas.  ( My Talk ) 18:31, February 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for being so understanding, I can see how I may have reacted a bit hastily to some good constructive criticism. It's just that I have had admins make accusations towards me in the past a lot, that I never really expressed my anger for, which is why I felt a lot better when I vented all of that out on you, which wasn't really fair, since you were offering support. So once again, sorry and thank you. User:Datovidny (talk) 11:27, February 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Do not not worry about it. In hindsight, I can see that I came across as very heavy-handed and for that I am truly sorry.  I am glad that the content spoke louder than the tone in the end. R A 2 ; aka Resetti's Replicas.  ( My Talk ) 14:46, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Bureaucrat
Hello RA2, when you ran for Bureaucrat in October, TG recommended that, if you still wanted to, to reopen your RfB in six months time, which would take us to this April. I'm considering opening a Bureaucrat request in the near future, and wanted to screen it past you first. I'm sure that we could both agree that three active 'crats on a wiki the size of ours seems like overkill, and I would not want to tread on your toes, being as you are a much more experienced contributor. If you want to run again I will choose not to. Thank you for your time. Matt Talk to me  15:56, February 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reminding me. I see no reason that we can't both run.  Last time we had people vote for whom they thought was more eligible, how about the same thing here? R A 2 ; aka Resetti's Replicas.  ( My Talk ) 16:07, February 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * If you are OK with that. In truth, I see even no reason to make a competition out of it, if the people want both of us, why not? I shall open my run in the near future Matt Robot Wars.jpg Talk to me  16:12, February 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Cool. I only suggested it because you said that three might be overkill, but in truth I'm cool with have three beauraucrats (no ties in voting is certainly a plus) R A 2 ; aka Resetti's Replicas. ( My Talk ) 16:22, February 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Great then, should we open our runs now while we're both online? Matt Robot Wars.jpg Talk to me  16:25, February 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sure R A 2 ; aka Resetti's Replicas. ( My Talk ) 16:28, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

Thyrus
Hi RA2. Sorry to bug you like this but I'm questioning my Spawn Again replica statboard where it says Thyrus is the captain. A little bird told me he's a friend of yours so can you confirm what's going on in the least moaniest way possible. Cheers. --StormProof 21:43, February 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well it's like this, I promised that replica to both of you without realizing it and posted it as one entry instead of two. It's a shame neither of us caught this sooner.  I can change the startboard to make you co-captains, does that sound fair (and not moany)? R A 2 ; aka Resetti's Replicas.  ( My Talk ) 21:52, February 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, don't worry. As someone said "Even the greats can mess up". You have my strong support for bureaucratic election as my thanks for responding so quickly. --StormProof 21:59, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

Q&A
I will log all that was said. You confused me for a second, as my name is also Gutteridge (no relation) :D Matt  Talk to me  23:12, February 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry you couldn't make it to the Q&A. The log of the session is now available here. Christophee (talk) 15:07, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

UK vs The Netherlands
I noticed your response to Matt regarding the "UK vs The Netherlands" tournament, and I noticed you stated you didn't want any robots from Belgium. I can understand the points to that, but by that same reasoning, don't you think we should disclude robots from the Republic of Ireland (so Diotoir would be a no-no), for fairnessy reasons if nothing else? CrashBash (talk) 22:27, February 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * I took the United Kingdom to include England, Scotland, Wales, Ireland, and Norhtern Ireland. Is that inaccurate? History was my worst subject in school, You'll be dismayed to learn that the US curriculum barely touches upon your country except for the War of independence. R A 2 ; aka Resetti's Replicas. ( My Talk ) 23:11, February 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but the UK is England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland only (well...I say only, but it's the majority). The rest of Ireland (the Republic of) is its own country. Hence why Diotoir (and indeed Top Bot) fought seperately from the rest of the British robots even when they fought as one. CrashBash (talk) 23:14, February 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah I thought it was just for filler. Ok, I suppose in that case we can let them in, just because ther's so few of them that they're unlikely to get their own fantasy tourney. R A 2 ; aka Resetti's Replicas.  ( My Talk ) 23:20, February 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * When's the tournament starting?  Mad looney 6

I need votes from Middle Eye, plus rankings from everyone who hasn't done so yet. '''R A 2 ; aka Resetti's Replicas. ( My Talk )''' 18:06, February 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * By the way, I listed my picks in order of preference when I submitted them. Christophee (talk) 19:11, February 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * So did I, I've specified that on the page now. Datovidny (talk) 19:13, February 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * Great. Can you think of anyone besides Middle Eye who still needs to cast votes? R A 2 ; aka Resetti's Replicas.  ( My Talk ) 19:25, February 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * Samster? Snowdog140 20:06, February 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * The Samster has done his list of competitors, just Middle Eye now.  Mad looney 6
 * Won't be long then I wouldn't imagine, could be started by the weekend. Charlie M  12:18, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

Quick one
Hey RA2, remember that week-long break from chat which is supposed to expire tomorrow? I don't suppose you'd be able to set a more precise time for expiry for fear of jumping on too early and getting punished for doing it unwittingly. The only reason I'm asking this is because it expires tomorrow, but the exact time could be 02:00 your time for all I know (apologies if the answer is somewhere I can see it) so I would appreciate a more accurate time.  STORM  II   18:44, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * That's a fair question, I didn't plan it down to the second. I'll call it 06:00 AM GMT.  Sound good?  R A 2 ; aka Resetti's Replicas.  ( My Talk ) 21:22, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me. Thanks for your cooperation.  STORM  II   21:32, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

Trivia Quiz
I understand that you showed interest in my idea of a Trivia Quiz on the chat feature, when I initially posted the idea on my blog. If you are still interested in attending, I plan on hosting it on 31st March at 3pm GMT. If this is going to cause problems for you, please contact me as soon as possible. Datovidny (talk) 22:16, March 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, I will not be able to make that - on that day I could only do 6:30 GMT or later. But if that time works for the majority of users, then you should hold it at that time.  R A 2 ; aka Resetti's Replicas.  ( My Talk ) 02:59, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Ricky Roby
Hey! New Wiki user here - just rediscovering my long dormant love of Robot Wars, love watching your replica battle on YouTube. I had no idea Robot Arena 2 existed with all this potential, I'm going to start looking into it!

Great work!

--Ricky Roby 13:54, March 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Great to hear!  I'm always glad to learn that I've inspired someone.  I recommend you check out the gametechmods.com forum, that's where everyone who's interested in Robot Arena 2 hangs out. R A 2 ; aka Resetti's Replicas.  ( My Talk ) 13:57, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks - just signed up there as well. This whole thing looks pretty complicated, I'm still trying to find out how the wiki works. I can't wait for everyone to laugh at me for being such a newbie :P

Let's hope I can figure out this RA2 thing...--Ricky Roby 16:06, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

Dominator 2
I'm very sure that Dominator 2 would be seeded above Bigger Brother. The Seeding article states that Dominator 2 was going to be seeded 5th for Series 7, and this was back when they listed Razer as the 2nd Seed. When Razer dropped out of Series 7, it would have become #4. Think about this; Dominator 2 beat Bigger Brother in Series 6. If you don't mind, I shall be changing Ming to match this. Toast Ultimatum  20:58, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Common.js
As you may have noticed, I've been filling up Recent Changes a bit with edits to templates, in an effort to make them collapse. I never figured out what the problem was, but I asked for help, and now I know what's wrong. Unfortunately, for the issue to be fixed, an admin must paste some data into MediaWiki:Common.js.

The data that needs adding can be found here:

Appreciate the help. -- Toast  Ultimatum  17:46, March 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * Done. Did it paste as you needed it? R A 2 ; aka Resetti's Replicas.  ( My Talk ) 22:25, March 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm pretty sure all that would have been necessary to make templates collapsible, but I still can't figure out how to do it. All this has gone beyond me, and I know quite well what I'm doing with Wikis. It's a shame, because the Series (No.) Competing Robots templates are pretty tall, and if an article such as Demolition Man needed two Series Templates, it would take up loads of room. Thanks for the help anyway.  Toast  Ultimatum  22:57, March 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * The collapsible templates is a good idea, and I hope you can get it working. I've never been any good at dealing with wiki codes. Christophee (talk) 12:30, March 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure whether somebody got it working before I did this, but I added an extra line of code to the Common.js page and the collapsible tables are working. Christophee (talk) 12:26, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

Revenge of the Rejects
I have a suggestion for a future tournament if your interested. Revenge of the Rejects. The concept would be a certain number of robots that never got a chance to compete in the main competition, such as Haardervark, G-Man, Dominator 1, Killertron 2, Malfunktion, Draven and so on. Trying to think at how many there were if there was enough for a big tourney or not but i wanted to know what you thought first. BizarroKing 18:07, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * It's certainly an interesting idea, I might end up doing it as a side event of Series 2. How many of the bots in question have good pictures of their completed forms?  R A 2 ; aka Resetti's Replicas.  ( My Talk ) 18:59, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Anyway I can email you or at least send the list I came up with? Then you can decide how you wanna do it and/or who you wanna use anyway you see fit --BizarroKing 16:05, April 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * I appreciate any help you're willing to give. What would be most helpful is a list of just the ones that we have good pictures of. R A 2 ; aka Resetti's Replicas.  ( My Talk ) 16:10, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Well here's who has decent enough pictures to work with or better yet have appeared in side competitions: Dominator 1, Crusader 1, Eye of Newt, Six Pac, R.O.C.S II, The General, Gnasher (soccer), Alien (soccer), Malfunktion, Spectre, Demolition Demon 2, Niterider, Panzer Wraith, Pressure, Piranha, Spirit of Knightmare, Shear Kahn, Cataclysmic Variabot (C.V.), Banana R Armour, Big Pants (a recolor of Hot Pants), Cayenne, Draven, Forklift, G-Man, Haardervark (possibly?), Hell's Teeth, Judge Mech, Killertron 2 (again possibly?), Merlin, More Panda Modium, TX-108, Tanto, Thorak, and Series 4 Typhoon. There's others but these robots have a decent pic set; most have appeared in side events on tv such as pinball and soccer too.--BizarroKing 20:12, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Tournament
I'm enjoying the Tournament that your doing at the moment on youtube, it is very good. I'm a fan of your videos as the replicas are very realistic.  Mad looney 6 13:50, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks mate. I always love to hear things like that. R A 2 ; aka Resetti's Replicas.  ( My Talk ) 17:24, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

2012 Summer Trivia Quiz
Hello, as you are a regular user to this wiki, I want to inform you that the 2012 Summer Trivia Quiz will be hosted on the chat feature of the wiki by me on the 23rd June at 3pm (British Time). I wish to tell you in advance so that you can try and set aside some time for it, it is estimated to go on for about an hour. If you wish to learn more about this, look on my blog for more details. If you know you can't make it, please let me know, I should remind you about this again nearer to the time. Datovidny (talk) 18:56, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the invite, but that time is no good for me. Don't change it if it works for everyone else though. R A 2 ; aka Resetti's Replicas.  ( My Talk ) 18:00, April 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * The chatbox isn't working for me; I can't see wht anyone's saying. Is anyone else having this problem? R A 2 ; aka Resetti's Replicas.  ( My Talk ) 19:55, May 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * It works for me, perhaps Wikia is acting up on your computer again? We do know that recently you've been restricted by Wikia hating your computer, and I feel sorry about that. Hopefully it grows out soon.  STORM  II   19:59, May 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * A lot of people get this problem, such as Madlooney and even myself. If you refresh, you can see what people have written, but ultimately, that would be a massive handicap for competing in a Trivia Quiz, and it also looks visually disruptive for other users. Toast  Ultimatum  20:42, May 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Can I say, I've been having this problem too, ever since the chat was given a new format. I can't post anything on the chat and I can't see who is present. How about a group of us set a date and time to just go on chat to see if we are having a problem. Datovidny (talk) 23:29, May 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * NVM, it's working now, for me anyway. I'm starting to think the problem is my work computer, not the time of day.  Unfortunately I'm at my work computer for most of the daylight hours in England; on weekdays I'm effectively indisposed until 7PM EST. R A 2 ; aka Resetti's Replicas.  ( My Talk ) 02:47, May 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * As I said, it works fine for me, my only handicaps are a) slow typing and b) dithery computer. Can't wait to chuck it.  STORM  II   09:39, May 13, 2012 (UTC)