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Welcome back to A Fantasy Audited War 3! After losing to Spawn Again in the second round last series, Kan-Opener has returned, with the team claiming it is better than ever. And it needs to be if it is going to win a heat consisting of robots from various nations, including England, Scotland, Wales, Germany, the Netherlands and the United States. Speaking of the United States, did you know that robot combat began in America? Because of this, The Revolutionist wants robot combat to come home (now where have I heard that before?). Anyhow, who will come out on top? To find out, we must LET THE WARS BEGIN!

Round 1

Typhoon vs Son of Armageddon

Typhoon	Son of Armageddon
Votes for Typhoon SoA is not a rhythm disturber though. It might have weight on its side, but there isn't anything else that will help. The flipper is far too high to have any chance of tipping Typhoon over, even if it is just a middleweight. The sides are ripe for a trashing here. Jimlaad43(talk) 13:31, August 2, 2018 (UTC) SoA’s flipper is too steep to breach a rotating cone at top speed or indeed not-top speed. TOAST 13:51, August 2, 2018 (UTC) I really can't see SoA doing anything against the fast spinning Typhoon who will get up to speed, dodge around the arena avoiding any conflict with SoA and then bashing into the flat side as and destroying the flimsy barred flipper.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 14:28, August 2, 2018 (UTC) (It's the middleweight Typhoon, not the heavyweight Series 7 champ ;) ) Jimlaad43(talk) 14:41, August 2, 2018 (UTC) Changed :P Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 14:49, August 2, 2018 (UTC) Wait, SoA's not that well armoured, is it? If that's the case, I can see Typhoon mangling it quite well. Hey, not the weirdest time I wanted Typhoon through. :V --doot (Formerly DemonOfTomorrow) 15:46, August 2, 2018 (UTC) A half decent spinner against a rather poorly armoured robot with meh weapons. I know where my vote lies. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:44, August 2, 2018 (UTC) I have my doubts on SoA, so even with a weight disadvantage I feel Typhoon will take this one. BizarroKing (talk) 22:51, August 2, 2018 (UTC) Despite the weight disadvantage, I still Typhoon could wreck havoc on SOA Adster1005 (talk) 10:06, August 3, 2018 (UTC) SoA's weapon may be too steep to get the good attack needed to topple Typhoon. While Typhoon is light, it's still nippy and driven well enough that I think it'll avoid the front and cause some damage to the sluggish SoA's sides. Not enough to kill it, but enough to win on damage. Raz3r(talk) 10:53, August 3, 2018 (UTC)	Votes for Son of Armageddon You know what, I will back the German machine here. The theory that has been proposed by CrashBash on how to defeat the Typhoon machines is that the opponent must disrupt its rhythm. I doubt Son of Armageddon could achieve this against the heavyweight Typhoon, but with its weight advantage against the middleweight, I am confident it could meet this requirement. Remember, this was a robot that managed to survive Black Hole to a judges' decision. Henceforth, I can see Son of Armageddon tanking the first couple of blows from Typhoon, before charging in and using its weight advantage to stop Typhoon in its tracks. Eventually, the flip of doom will be achieved. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 13:15, August 2, 2018 (UTC) Sorry, but I've never rated Typhoon Middleweight and never will. It knocked out sheet polycarbs and lunchboxes in Extreme with an awful spin-up time. It essentially did nothing bar knock over 259 in Extreme 2, and then its Series 7 fight is a contender for one of the worst ever. Even if Typhoon manages to spin up to a decent speed, it is not going to knock a heavyweight away far away to get itself back up to speed. Son of Armageddon to win for me. Also, can we please get rid of this myth that Son of Armageddon's armour is bad? It withstood virtually everything Black Hole gave it. The only thing Black Hole churned up was the framework that supported the flipper, and that was only because it has a vertical spinner - something which Typhoon does not. The sides stood up perfectly well. NJGW (talk) 14:46, August 2, 2018 (UTC) Against a proper heavyweight, Typhoon will struggle and SoA will dominate with its superior pushing power. Typhoon to be pitted. Something else to take into account is that full body spinners damage themselves as much as they damage the opponent whenever they make contact so a middleweight hitting a heavyweight is only going to wreck Typhoon's internals, not SoA's.Sam (BAZINGA) 15:25, August 2, 2018 (UTC) Typhoon won't be able to get past round 2 given how Kan-Opener, Scrap-2-Saur and The Revolutionist are also winning. Sam (BAZINGA) 21:28, August 3, 2018 (UTC) It's a tricky one, but I think Son of Armageddon has this. Just about. Given that Son of Armageddon stood up to Black Hole pretty damn well, I think a slower weapon of probably not massively dissimilar weight shouldn't be able to immobilise it. That's if Typhoon can keep getting up to speed, which, in a smaller arena with a lot more hazards and a lot less free space, I'm not convinced it'll be able to. Son of Armageddon can keep the pressure on, bully it into hazards, and maybe get a killer flip in when Typhoon's slowed. If it does manage to, Typhoon's repeated running to spin up will end up costing it points if Son of Armageddon is continuously moving in towards Typhoon as it did to Black Hole, and will give Son of Armageddon the decision over Typhoon's minor damage if it does go the distance. Combatwombat555 (talk) 17:46, August 2, 2018 (UTC)
Winner:

The General (8) vs Kan-Opener (8)

The General (8)	Kan-Opener (8)
Votes for The General (8) Hmm, I think I'll be a contrarian vote here. The General is only in danger if Oan-Opener gets the right grip on the wheels, but the thing about The General is that it's so long that I doubt Kan-Opener could get a grip from the front or back, so it'll have to go for the sides. Not only that, but this Kan-Opener is more compact and not epesciaoly reliable, and by while The General's saws aren't the strongest, they could still get a hit on Kan-Opener's own wheels. Let's not forget that The General had at least enough force in the weaponry to knock Behemoth away pretty easily. I'll back it to knock something loose in Kan-Opener and. Raz3r(talk) 10:53, August 3, 2018 (UTC)	Votes for Kan-Opener (8) This Kan-Opener has yet to impress me. In both the Series 8 melee and a battle in Colchester it took part in, Kan-Opener broke down. But although The General's disc and slippery nature could enable it to beat the yellow machine, I just cannot trust those wheels. This is because should Kan-Opener gets a grip of one of the tyres with its claw, more than likely, said tyre is going to burst. If one tyre bursts, The General's mobility will be compromised enough for Kan-Opener to target and burst the other. Even if The General is still mobile by the end, Kan-Opener will easily win a judges' decision. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 13:15, August 2, 2018 (UTC) - INSERT RAGNABOT 2 MEME HERE - Jimlaad43(talk) 13:32, August 2, 2018 (UTC) Claws + Big juicy tires + weak armour = Dead robutt.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 14:29, August 2, 2018 (UTC) This is kinda awkward for Kan-Opener, actually. The General has lots of protruding parts and isn't easy to get a grip around. I may have backed it outright if its discs had better teeth. But yeah, Kan-Opener gets my backing - it just won't be a romp. NJGW (talk) 14:48, August 2, 2018 (UTC) DON'T BRING A DEAD MEME TO A FANTASY AUDITED WAR --doot (Formerly DemonOfTomorrow) 15:47, August 2, 2018 (UTC) The General's spinner sadly not good enough to 'DON'T BRING WHEELS' Kan-Opener, so I'd back it here. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:46, August 2, 2018 (UTC) The General's not an easy machine to grab hold of, but ultimately there's not a lot that The General can do here. The spinners won't do a whole lot of damage, and Kan-Opener should be able to get a grip at some point in the 3 minutes. Combatwombat555 (talk) 17:50, August 2, 2018 (UTC) Those big tires I feel will be The General's undoing. BizarroKing (talk) 22:51, August 2, 2018 (UTC) The big tyres will be popped by the claws. Adster1005 (talk) 10:06, August 3, 2018 (UTC)
Winner:

Scrap-2-Saur vs Das Gepäck

Scrap-2-Saur	Das Gepäck
Votes for Scrap-2-Saur I was not really sure which image of Scrap-2-Saur to pick, so feel free to change it. Anyhow, depending on your perspective, this is either an all-Dutch affair or a Netherlands-Germany showdown. However, a change in nationality for Das Gepäck will not save it against Scrap-2-Saur, of whom I can see flipping the invertible machine across the arena. Das Gepäck may achieve a push here and there, but in a three minute battle, Scrap-2-Saur's CO2 supply should not be depleted, and thus will relentlessly flip its opponent until time runs out and it wins a judges' decision. While we are at it, Jimlaad, in the case that you are hosting Ragnabot 3, I suggest we should have this version of Scrap-2-Saur instead of the Series 7 variant. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 13:15, August 2, 2018 (UTC) I agree with the points above. In terms of Ragnabot 3, if I am hosting it again, I would once again post a blog (such as this) to discuss every robot that will compete, and versions. All suggestions will be considered and voted on/discussed. Jimlaad43(talk) 13:35, August 2, 2018 (UTC) Das Gepack lost to Gravity and Gravity lost to Scrap-II-Saur :thinking: TOAST 13:52, August 2, 2018 (UTC) Complete dominance, as the thrusting Scrap-2-Saur hurls Das Gepaeck around. NJGW (talk) 14:50, August 2, 2018 (UTC) Flipped... and flipped... and flipped. No way Das Gepack's winning. --doot (Formerly DemonOfTomorrow) 15:48, August 2, 2018 (UTC) Flipper against pusher than isn't Drillzilla, Tornado or Storm 2; almost always back the flipper here. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:47, August 2, 2018 (UTC) Das Gepäck will be aggressive and will keep coming in on the attack, but Scrap-2-Saur should be able to keep getting decent flips in and give it a fairly comfortable judges' decision. Combatwombat555 (talk) 17:52, August 2, 2018 (UTC) I really wanna vote for Das Gepack because I feel people really discriminate against rambots heavily (hmm maybe a nomination for Nick's blog perhaps? i.e. all rambots) nonetheless I feel the flips will be more aggressive and damaging.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 18:42, August 2, 2018 (UTC) Das Gepack goes extinct. BizarroKing (talk) 22:51, August 2, 2018 (UTC) Das Gepäck probably flipped. And handed to the House Robots. Das Gepäck won't have much of an answer to the flipping power of Scrap-2-Saur here. This'll be very easy with that obvious ground clearance. Raz3r(talk) 10:53, August 3, 2018 (UTC)	Votes for Das Gepäck
Winner:

Thing 2 vs The Revolutionist (NICK)

Thing 2	The Revolutionist (NICK)
Votes for Thing 2 Note that I picked this image not for its quality, but because it showcases the upgrades The Revolutionist had in Extreme Warriors 2. Anyhow, for this vote, well, why not. Thing 2, who is the only Adams Family that is on my favourites list, might actually achieve an upset against the American robot. Although I would be more confident voting Series 4 Wild Thing through against The Revolutionist, the reasoning for voting both through against The Revolutionist remains the same. Indeed, Thing 2 had a notably low ground clearance for Series 3, which I feel would be enough to get underneath the high ground clearance of the spinner. With Nick Adams controlling Thing 2, I suspect it will charge in and prevent The Revolutionist from spinning to the RPM needed to deflect Thing 2 away. Because of this, I am confident that Thing 2 will be able to get underneath and push The Revolutionist around, scoring highly in terms of aggression and control. In addition, I trust it to push the American machine into the House Robots or floor flipper, which may finish the job of overturning The Revolutionist for the knockout victory. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 13:15, August 2, 2018 (UTC) I think Thing 2 will keep getting under The Revolutionist and keep feeding it to the House Robots, or pit it. Adster1005 (talk) 10:06, August 3, 2018 (UTC)	Votes for The Revolutionist (NICK) I'm still not sure why choice of images needs to be such a discussion point, but anyway, this is a powerful spinner vs a weaponless Series 3 robot. Firstly, Thing 2 was derailed by a floor spike, and the flipper is more of a danger in this arena. Secondly, it never faced something truly destructive. We saw the sequel robot take a beating from Hypno-Disc, and this robot should be much worse off. Jimlaad43(talk) 13:37, August 2, 2018 (UTC) Thing 2 reared up a lot, it’s wedge will be grinned away until it has no feasible offence, and The Revolutionist will do it for the beautiful country I’m currently in. TOAST 13:54, August 2, 2018 (UTC) True Thing 2 does have a nice flat wedge and great speed but The Revolutionists can spin up and once doing so, smash and completely decimate Thing 2.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 14:31, August 2, 2018 (UTC) Yeah, I could literally do a "Robot Wars Series 3 Heat N, but it speeds up every time Thing 2 rears up" it does it that often. Decent theory, but this version of the Thing family won't have enough. NJGW (talk) 14:53, August 2, 2018 (UTC) Wait, I thought I reasoned this fight? Ah, well. Revolutionist will tear the Thing to shreds. --doot (Formerly DemonOfTomorrow) 15:49, August 2, 2018 (UTC) Thing 2's best hope is to get underneath The Revolutionist before it hits full pelt. Can't say it will manage that. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:48, August 2, 2018 (UTC) Got nothing to add really, a later Wild Thing would be a more interesting fight to be honest. Combatwombat555 (talk) 17:54, August 2, 2018 (UTC) OUCH, the poor Adams family gets two bad draws in a row. I don't see Thing 2 getting under The Revolutionist who will spin it to death. BizarroKing (talk) 22:51, August 2, 2018 (UTC) Thing 2 is well controlled, but The Revolutionist should have the power to knock it around should it get up to speed. The wheels are exposed, the rearing is an issue, and at the end of the day, it's Series 3 polycarbonate armour. Raz3r(talk) 10:53, August 3, 2018 (UTC)
Winner: