Votes for Nuts 2 (10)
- I love both robots and seeing one go out is a shame but I can't look away from the Attila the Drum vs Onslaught vs Razer battle. In said battle Attila span on the spot and caused significant damage, smashing the armour and the side wheel being torn completely off (see my image uploads for evidence) Attila was only defeated because Onslaught rammed it into Sir Killalot. Razer I'm afraid will suffer similar damage from Nuts who may do more than dent the side and tear the side wheel off...Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 09:44, August 26, 2018 (UTC)
- Thing is, with Nuts 2's slow spin-up time, can it inflict that damage before Razer grabs hold of it? I just do not think it can. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 12:42, August 26, 2018 (UTC)
- Lol, I just spent 5 minutes typing up an essay for Razer to win, only to remember that this was the Series 4 version. Yeah, I don't think Razer will stand up to the peppering for the whole fight. If it did, I'd vote for it, but I think it'll be ground down. NJGW (talk) 15:09, August 26, 2018 (UTC)
- You've probably deleted it by now, which is a shame because I legit would have liked to have read it. CrashBash (talk) 15:58, August 26, 2018 (UTC)
- I wouldn't have even voted for Razer to beat Nuts 1 - the last ever robot to earn a combat victory over Razer! Nuts 2's supposed slow spin-up time is irrelevant, Attila the Drum was hardly spinning quickly when they dented Razer's side. But seeing as Space has taken the time to ask another voter how Nuts can reach its top speed before Razer grabs, then my answer is that the minibots exist for that exact purpose. Androne 4000 didn't manage to get to Nuts 2 before the spin-up completed, did it? Razer could not ask for a much worse opponent. TOAST 15:27, August 26, 2018 (UTC)
- What exactly will Razer be able to do to Nuts here? Nothing meaningful that I see. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:55, August 26, 2018 (UTC)
- The role of the minibots is key. They probably wouldn't stop Razer at the very centre of the wedge, but they would slot in well in front of the wheels and distract it enough for Nuts 2 to reach its damaging speed. Series 4 Razer clearly wasn't armoured as well as later incarnations and will take a lot of dents, and possibly even sustain damage to the wheels in a similar fashion to Concussion and Carbide. Raz3r(talk) 21:48, August 26, 2018 (UTC)
- Nuts 2 showed us how Minibots are useful tools, rather than sacrificial wedges. Nuts will be fine by the time Razer approaches, and the claws are going to be ripped off very soon. Jimlaad43(talk) 22:40, August 26, 2018 (UTC)
- Wow, two former grand finalists in the same heat and BOTH go out in round 1; still, they'll struggle to get near Nuts on this one. BizarroKing (talk) 23:20, August 26, 2018 (UTC)
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Votes for Razer (4)
- OK, as much as Random.org can draw some awful battles for us to debate on in the past, I have to thank it for this one. This battle is one I have been looking forward to debating on ever since the draw was made. Now, in theory, Nuts 2 SHOULD win this, since its sit and spin approach will not only damage Razer's light armour, but also may cause internal damage that could force a break down. However, it should be noted that one of the main weaknesses of Nuts 2 is its spin up time, which unlike with most modern spinners, can take a couple of seconds to reach top speed. A couple of seconds is all that Razer needs to attack Nuts 2 head-on without taking too much damage, in a similar approach to how it managed to beat 13 Black. Once Razer has closed in and is now attacking Nuts 2, all it needs to do is grab its opponent. Although Nuts 2 is a slippery opponent, the gap between its metal ring and the wheels is perfect for Razer to grab hold of. In fairness, Razer is unlikely to be able to cause much damage, nor push its opponent around easily like it does with so many other opponents. But by performing this attack as early as possible, Razer has effectively prevented the Series 10 machine from spinning, thus stopping it from scoring any aggression, damage and control points. Although Razer will be forced to let go at some point, because Nuts 2 is actually a very slow robot, it will take no time at all for the crusher to simply grab hold of its opponent again. If Razer keeps doing this, it will achieve an easy victory by a judges' decision. However, that all important attack at the start MUST occur as quickly as possible. If someone can convince me that Razer will be unable to achieve this attack in time, I may switch sides. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 09:39, August 26, 2018 (UTC)
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