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Welcome to the second semi-final of A Fantasy Audited War 3! Whereas the first semi-final contained a large number of former semi-finalists and grand-finalists, this semi-final contains only one previous semi-finalist of A Fantasy Audited War 2, Ripper. In fact, everyone else failed to make the heat final last series, so meaning that the semi-final will essentially become a 'land of opportunity' for many of them to reach the grand final and redeem themselves after a poor showing last time round. Who will succeed? The only way to find out is to LET THE WARS BEGIN!

Round 1

Barber-Ous 2'n a Bit vs GBH 2

Barber-Ous 2'n a Bit	GBH 2
Votes for Barber-Ous 2'n a Bit To be honest, I think I can sum up my opinion with one question: What can GBH 2 actually do? Its primary weapon, a rear lifting wedge, is meant to gently topple opponents rather than throwing machines into the air. That will not work against Barber-Ous 2'n a Bit due to its invertible and slippery nature. Plus, GBH 2's pushing power was OK, but not the level needed to control the spinner's movements. In addition, GBH 2's front flipper will merely self-right the machine, once again being unable to do anything to the demon barber. Then, one has to consider Barber-Ous 2'n a Bit's drum's power, which will certainly cause significant damage to its opponent; heck, if The Alien caused that much damage to GBH 2, I dread to think of the damage that the demon barber can inflict to its opponent's sides. Therefore, when also considering that Barber-Ous 2'n a Bit only has to survive three minutes instead of five, it will easily take out GBH 2, winning on a judges' decision on all accounts, or if it can cause serious damage to GBH 2's flippers, a potential knockout if it is flipped and thus unable to self-right. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 08:12, September 6, 2018 (UTC) We saw that The Alien's little thing was able to topple GBH 2 in one hit, imagine a full body drum spinner...Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 08:25, September 6, 2018 (UTC) I really feel like Barber-Ous will have a breakdown in one of its four fights so far, but that wouldn't be a fair way to end SpaceManiac888's Magical Mystery Run for his second-favourite machine. This has now exceeded Ruf Ruf Dougal's Ragnabot 2 success for levels of "host's favourite robot advances unusually far into the bracket", with the fifth round on the horizon... TOAST 09:38, September 6, 2018 (UTC) Third favourite, as Firestorm and Kat 3 are loved more by me, both of whom actually went out in round one :(. I fear that this might be the peak for Barber-Ous, however, although there might be one robot that I can see it beating... but will others agree? SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 09:40, September 6, 2018 (UTC) We had the Razer roulette in Audited Series 2, could we have one for Barber-Ous? Regardless, GBH2 is just a wedge and a box with weapons that will do nothing here. This may be a big mess. Jimlaad43(talk) 09:54, September 6, 2018 (UTC) Some fast, chunky attacks will shatter GBH 2. NJGW (talk) 17:03, September 6, 2018 (UTC) If The Alien can turn G.B.H. over with its spinner, then Barber-Ous' even more powerful spinner surely will too, and then some. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:44, September 6, 2018 (UTC) GBH's armor looks weak to me and really, will flipping Barber-Ous do any sort of major harm? BizarroKing (talk) 22:11, September 6, 2018 (UTC) GBH 2 is lucky to have gotten this far in my opinion. At least Philipper 2 and UFO wouldn't have gone any further. Barber-Ous to cause severe damage to the front and sides. Raz3r(talk) 17:55, September 7, 2018 (UTC)	Votes for GBH 2
Winner: Barber-Ous 2'n a Bit (8-0)

Diotoir vs Corkscrew

Diotoir	Corkscrew
Votes for Diotoir I think this is quite straightforwardly Diotoir's win. In a head-to-head contact, Diotoir can only take damage to its disc, whereas Corkscrew's main body is being targeted, and quite likely overturned due to the number of lips on Corkscrew that vertical spinners can get under. It's not like Diotoir's wheels are UN-protected completely, Corkscrew will still have to work in order to get past a HARDOX shield. I find it kind of strange that a retro robot with a 1-3 combat record is so far ahead of a moder robot which, in another form, has a 4-0 record... TOAST 10:03, September 6, 2018 (UTC) If I voted for S3 to beat Corkscrew, I'm sure going to vote for Diotoir Machina for the exact same reason. Beginning to think Corkscrew may have outstayed its welcome. Having that spinner is all well and good until you realise that just a few hits could KO the entire robot. CrashBash (talk) 10:10, September 6, 2018 (UTC) I can't believe I'm going to say this, but I completely agree with Toast. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 11:02, September 6, 2018 (UTC) I voted for Corkscrew to beat S3, but I'm voting for Diotoir to beat Corkscrew. Its tyres are better hidden, it has armour that can take the hits from Corkscrew, and then it still has the weapon to bring in afterwards. NJGW (talk) 17:05, September 6, 2018 (UTC) Am I glad Corkscrew is winning? Yes. Do I think it'll win? No. The difference between Diotoir and S3 is a matter of armour and control. Corkscrew will easily get through the fur, but it has no chance of getting through the HARDOX armour. It's going to have to beat Diotoir by causing internal damage, and I don't think it'll be able to do it. Diotoir only has to connect once, and since I think it'll stand up to hits better than S3, I'm backing Diotoir to get the critical hit. Raz3r(talk) 17:55, September 7, 2018 (UTC) Yeah, I agree. Corkscrew's going to have to work a lot harder to get through Diotoir's HARDOX, plus Diotoir didn't seem to gyro-wheelie as much as Kadeena Machina so attacks to Diotoir's wheels are going to be harder to achieve. It's likely to be a weapon-to-weapon clash which could very well launch Corkscrew, and I can't see it surviving too many of them. Combatwombat555 (talk) 21:34, September 7, 2018 (UTC)	Votes for Corkscrew Think I will go for Corkscrew's third surprise in a row. Indeed, Diotoir's spinner, like S3's, may be powerful but lacks the range unlike Corkscrew's full-body spinner. This may enable Corkscrew to simply dodge it and attack the wheels. Also like S3, Diotoir's wheels are only slightly protected by wheel guards, meaning that a few blows from Corkscrew should generally be enough to tear said guards apart. And after the wheels are exposed, they are surely going to be shredded, allowing Corkscrew to win by knockout. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 08:12, September 6, 2018 (UTC) Can't really falter this, Corkscrew's spinner's really aggressive and damaging, sure nowadays and against Diotoir that spinner won't actually do anything meaningful maybe the odd scratch and dent but regardless I the spinner can still hit the "nose" of Diotoir, disabling the chain beltand possibly bending the nose all out of shape. The fur will fly as well and obviously the tires are exposed so...Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 08:46, September 6, 2018 (UTC) Diotoir's only hope is the Corkscrew gets flipped if the weapons collide. However, it was still quite well driven and aggressive, and shoul be able to get around to Diotoir's exposed wheels to disable them. Jimlaad43(talk) 09:57, September 6, 2018 (UTC) Diotoir's place here is sketchy give how Behemoth should've beaten it in round 2, Corkscrew has the better weaponry so will KO Diotoir. Sam (BAZINGA) 12:30, September 6, 2018 (UTC) Corkscrew should win this, it has the more powerful spinner, Diotoir has vulnerable body to aim for. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:46, September 6, 2018 (UTC) love it when Corkscrew has a stronger spinner than Kadeena Machina because it ripped a side skirt from Panic Attack Gold and damaged Matilda's fibreglass face TOAST 18:05, September 6, 2018 (UTC) Diotoir might get a few hits in but I don't realistically see it doing enough to stop Corkscrew who I feel will inevitably immobilize the irish bot. BizarroKing (talk) 22:11, September 6, 2018 (UTC)
Winner: Diotoir (6-6, 2-1 judges' decision)

Scorpion vs Mute

Scorpion	Mute
Votes for Scorpion Really depends on how well Scorpion can effectively use its disc against Mute. Mute does have strong armour, but I believe that unlike Dantomkia, it will be unable to prevent Scorpion from utilising its disc to full potential, because it will only succeed in flipping Scorpion a few times, rather than consecutively, as I am not sure that its flipper is the right design needed to control its opponent's movements. This may prove costly, because I can see Scorpion attacking the sides, causing notable gashes on the armour of its opponent, like it did against Dantomkia. As I see it being more likely to land hits against Mute when compared to Dantomkia, as it is generally less likely to be flipped around, I am sure it will win on damage and control. In terms of aggression, I believe Scorpion's attacks will narrowly outweigh Mute's flips, swaying the judges to its side. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 08:12, September 6, 2018 (UTC) Mute is always considered strongly armoured, but its armour is only thick, hardened polycarb and stainless steel. Scorpion's disc seems the perfect type to continuously slash its way deeper and deeper into that armour throughout the fight, and Mute's inability for consistent flips will cost it. NJGW (talk) 17:08, September 6, 2018 (UTC) To me the blade will rip into Mute's side and I feel a flip or two won't be enough to immobilize Scorpion. BizarroKing (talk) 22:11, September 6, 2018 (UTC) End of the road for Mute. It needs to get fully under Scorpion to have an effective flip, and I'm quietly confident Scorpion will prove lower at the front. Mute will need to go for the sides, but Scorpion turns quickly and can cut through and cause some minor damage. Scorpion was pretty reliable in this form, is unlikely to be pushed around and will win the judges' decision. Raz3r(talk) 17:55, September 7, 2018 (UTC) I thought that if I kept my mouth shut, Mute might have pulled it off, but this is honestly a very clear win for Scorpion. TOAST 00:07, September 8, 2018 (UTC)	Votes for Mute My issue is that I don't think Scorpion's blade is as good as everyone says it is. I feel the incident at the Live Events is being seen as an example, but considering it had upgrades and the Live Event scene at the time had little to no blade, of course even the smallest or bluntest of weapons would be "powerful". Another issue is that Scorpion has a ground clearance that can be exploited, meaning it is likely to be chucked about. I honestly think Scorpion's only chance is for Mute to break down, throw itself like flea and lose points as a result and or drive into a hazard and die. Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 08:31, September 6, 2018 (UTC) Scorpion fought Dantomkia and was wholly outclassed. Mute is nearly on Dantomkia's level and will still find it possible to outclass it. The front flipper will avoid the tiny killzone at the back and merely keep turning Scorpion over, eventually propping it up on the wall. Jimlaad43(talk) 09:58, September 6, 2018 (UTC) Mute should be able to flip Scorpion sufficiently to outweight any damage caused. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:46, September 6, 2018 (UTC)
Winner: Scorpion (5-3)

General Chompsalot 2 vs Ripper

General Chompsalot 2	Ripper
Votes for General Chompsalot 2 I have no real strong thinking behind this one, but Ripper tended to flip early. The General Chompsalot guys are good drivers, and I think will take advantage of Ripper's slip ups. Some torquey slams could even see Ripper lose drive - after all, that's exactly what happened from it simply reversing itself into the arena wall against Kan-Opener. Will John Findlay's machine be able to withstand impacts from a bulky American bot? I'm not too sure there. NJGW (talk) 17:10, September 6, 2018 (UTC) Actually I just rewatched the fight yesterday, and Ripper loses that wheel even before it gets driven into the wall. It literally sits on top of Kan-Opener for two seconds after a misflip, drives away OK, and then the chain slips. Horrifying. TOAST 17:35, September 6, 2018 (UTC)	Votes for Ripper Unlike with Hydra or St. Agro, Ripper has a very low ground clearance all round, meaning that a grab on the sides is virtually impossible for General Chompsalot 2's jaw to achieve. Because of this, the American machine in my opinion has lost this battle, because aside from a few light pushes, it can do almost nothing to Ripper. Ripper, by contrast, will be happy simply flipping its opponent across the arena, exploiting the ground clearance time after time. Providing both robots survive to the end, the Series 7 machine will easily win a judges' decision on all accounts. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 08:12, September 6, 2018 (UTC) Flip here and there, same reasons as before.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 08:26, September 6, 2018 (UTC) Ripper has a broad flipper and nothing really exposed for Chompsie to grab hold of. Ripper likes to get battles over and done with quick, so I can see it scoring a pretty quick OotA to be honest. Jimlaad43(talk) 09:59, September 6, 2018 (UTC) This is a nightmare draw for General Chompsalot 2. I'm happy to see them get this far, but unless Ripper loses drive on one side randomly, the Commander of Biting is completely finished. TOAST 10:05, September 6, 2018 (UTC) Chompsalot not the right sort of robot for taking advantage of Ripper's armour. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:47, September 6, 2018 (UTC) TBH what can Chompy do? They might get a few bites in but I feel Ripper can, and will, inevitably flip them OoTA. BizarroKing (talk) 22:11, September 6, 2018 (UTC) General Chompsalot 2 is in big trouble here. The only thing it could grab is the flipper when it's raised, otherwise it'll be chucked about for the full fight. A commanding display from Ripper is on the cards here. Raz3r(talk) 17:55, September 7, 2018 (UTC)
Winner: Ripper (7-1)

From the Vault: Anarchy vs M2

Both robots went out in round 2 of A Fantasy Audited War 3, but two series ago, both had won their heats and were looking to make the second round of the semi-finals. Which one came out on top?

Anarchy	M2
Votes for Anarchy Anarchy will maybe be flipped once or twice by M2, but will comfortably right itself with the axe. After that, M2 isn't explosive enough, and will be rolled over and axed - only offering limp lifts in response. NJGW (talk) 23:49, September 8, 2018 (UTC)	Votes for M2 Surprised this even went to a judges' decision. Yes, Anarchy is a great walker, but I do not consider it to be anywhere close to M2's league. Indeed, I can see M2 with its massive speed advantage just exploiting Anarchy's high ground clearance at the sides, flipping its opponent over. When considering that M2 flipped robots out of the arena, I am sure it can achieve a powerful flip against the heavy Anarchy. If Anarchy cannot self-right, M2 will win via a flip of doom. If it can, then M2 will just keep avoiding the flipper and axe and work on the sides, achieving a clear judges' decision victory on aggression and control. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:35, September 8, 2018 (UTC) Yeah, one flip should solve this one. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:26, September 8, 2018 (UTC) Oh how much this vote frustrated me, this ought to have been unanimous. TOAST 18:40, September 8, 2018 (UTC) M2 should be wary of the axe, but if it avoids that, which it almost certainly will, it can flip Anarchy over from the side pretty easily. Raz3r(talk) 13:05, September 9, 2018 (UTC)
Winner: Anarchy (4-1)

Round 2

Barber-Ous 2'n a Bit vs Ripper

Barber-Ous 2'n a Bit	Ripper
Votes for Barber-Ous 2'n a Bit OK, I will be honest here: yes, Barber-Ous 2'n a Bit has over-achieved at this point. But, I can see it not only beating its opponent here, but dominating Ripper too. Here is the thing about the two machines; firstly, for a flipper to defeat Barber-Ous, it needs to have a wide AND powerful flipper. With that, I can see flippers such as Apollo, Eruption, Gravity, Series 7 Atomic and Tsunami beating Barber-Ous, most without breaking a sweat. Ripper has a very wide flipper... but it is low pressure. Watching a battle it had against Terrorhurtz, its flipper did not really have the power to trouble the axebot, in spite of being capable of OotAs. It sure is not going to trouble an invertible Barber-Ous here. Speaking of that battle with Terrorhurtz, the structure of Ripper's flipper proved to be vulnerable to powerful attacks. With Barber-Ous going up to speed relatively quickly, if Ripper charges in, the result will be that it is going to lack a viable flipper straight away, being forced to rely on pushing power alone. While I admit that might trouble the demon barber, with no useful flipper, a trademark Barber-Ous flip may be enough for a knockout on Ripper, as the green and yellow machine may be unable to self-right in this state. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:35, September 8, 2018 (UTC) One last thing: Barber-Ous 2'n a Bit's unreliability is highly over-estimated by some. In Series 6, it took powerful blows from Hypno-Disc to kill it, the same flywheel that took out Bulldog Breed within a few blows. It took two powerful axes to take the demon barber out in the Challenge Belt melee, one axe of which also took out Vader, S.M.I.D.S.Y. and Dantomkia in the same episode. And while its breakdown against Leveller 2 cannot be justified, I will say that it was exceptionally unlucky; just look at its performance in Battle of the Spinners, where it survived Shredder Evolution's discs and kept working after being hit by Mr. Psycho's hammer, the same hammer that took out Gravity. Ripper's flipper and pushing power cannot really cause the same internal damage that Hypno-Disc and two powerful axes achieved. Right, essay over! SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:35, September 8, 2018 (UTC) I must admit, unless Ripper can quickly flip and get rid of Barber-Ous, I just can't see Ripper doing so well. Barber-Ous was able to throw Leveller 2, and though Ripper's armour is good it was easy to bend and manipulate from almost any impact or object, due to how thin it was (See Kan-Opener), basically strong but thin armour. Not only that if Ripper does get underneath Barber-Ous, whose to say those bars on the flipper won't get damaged? The full body drum should smack Ripper on its side or back making things even more difficult. Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 16:35, September 8, 2018 (UTC) Yeah, now we can talk about Ripper's armour being its undoing. Can't see it getting a meaningful flip on Barber-Ous, so a win on damage. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:27, September 8, 2018 (UTC) I say Barber-Ous takes this one on damage purely. Maybe not enough in the tank to KO Ripper per say but enough to deal some major harm. BizarroKing (talk) 21:19, September 8, 2018 (UTC) This feels kind-of Kat 3ish. I can see Barber-Ous getting some really good hits in its first foray forward, and Ripper struggling to recover. NJGW (talk) 23:50, September 8, 2018 (UTC) I do fear for Ripper here. The armour is quite thin, the flipper plate and rams are susceptible to being damaged by the wide drum, and by it could be flipped over. Raz3r(talk) 13:05, September 9, 2018 (UTC)	Votes for Ripper Ripper's flipper is wide enough to get a good purchase on Barber-Ous regardless of how it spins. Ripper is also good enough to get around the sides and flip the wheels. Barber-Ous will eventually get flipped by the floor flipper during the battle, and that will definitely cause it to break down. Ripper can survive the damage (it was designed to do that) and out-survive Barber-Ous. No matter what it tries, something will get in Barber-Ous' way, be it an arena hazard or a House Robot. If anything, Ripper's high wedge and flipper mechanics can be used to push the pole around. Without the Razer Roulette, we're just going to have to go on experience and say Barber-Ous taking hard knocks will kill it at some point. Ripper can make it take hard knocks, and because it will survive the whole battle, it's the end of Barber-Ous' run. Jimlaad43(talk) 17:31, September 8, 2018 (UTC)
Winner: Barber-Ous 2'n a Bit (6-1)

Diotoir vs Scorpion

Diotoir	Scorpion
Votes for Diotoir After nearly heading out a round ago, Diotoir might be reaching the Grand Final! As noted in its encounter with IG-88, Scorpion suffered badly against vertical spinners, and Diotoir's is one of the deadliest in the reboot series. Providing that Diotoir protects its flanks, I can see it taking out the Series 7 machine within a few blows. Can it reach the final two? We shall see. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:35, September 8, 2018 (UTC) How the Hell did both these robots get this far?! :P Anyway, the spinning bar of IG-88 was capable enough tearing Scorpion a new one so Diotoir should do the same...except a whole lot worse considering it is faster, deadlier and more improved than IG-88.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 16:29, September 8, 2018 (UTC) Scorpion doesn't have the range of attack that Corkscrew did, and the sides are ripe for an IG-88ing. Jimlaad43(talk) 17:32, September 8, 2018 (UTC) Scorpion never did handle fellow spinners that well. Can see Diotoir doing enough to win this one. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:28, September 8, 2018 (UTC) Thank heavens we finally got rid of Corkscrew, yeesh. I don't know why anyone is surprised that Diotoir made the Grand Final, my predicted robots were the three bolded votes for strong reboot machines or classic champions - Diotoir, Big Nipper, Typhoon 2 and... Cobra. Three out of four isn't bad. TOAST 18:53, September 8, 2018 (UTC) Team Nemesis have more experience behind them so of these two deadly weapons, I'm siding with them. Congrats on making the grand finals Diotoir! BizarroKing (talk) 21:19, September 8, 2018 (UTC) I do agree with Madlooney that Diotoir shouldn't be here, but now it is I can't see it not winning this fight. More hardy and robust, and the spinners are similar. NJGW (talk) 23:52, September 8, 2018 (UTC) Diotoir is more than capable of repeating the attack IG-88 dealt out to Scorpion. The spinner of Scorpion will struggle to go through Diotoir's HARDOX armour, and Scorpion could suffer here. Very good run from it though, to get this far. Raz3r(talk) 13:07, September 9, 2018 (UTC)	Votes for Scorpion Diotoir shouldn't be here, it lost to Behemoth in round 2 or Chompalot in the heat final if people think Diotoir beat Behemoth anti-spinner scoop. Scorpion to tear it a new one. Sam (BAZINGA) 20:55, September 8, 2018 (UTC)
Winner: Diotoir (8-1)