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42 robots, from the UK and all over the world, have come together to fight for the Robot Wars title. A new format shakes things up, and allows robots to find redemption if required. 7 heats await us before the 8 robot Grand Final. But 7 heat winners doesn't go into 8 does it? No it doesn't. The robots who come 2nd and 3rd in each heat will all enter the arena at the same time and battle until there is one robot left standing, in the absolutely massive 14 Robot Rumble. You do not want to miss it! Tonight though, reigning champions Carbide are here to defend their title in style. Will it be as easy as last year? To find out, it's over to Jimathon Peaarce.

Round 1

Please start your vote with your result in bold, as shown here: 1: First, 2: Second, 3: Third.

Carbide (1) vs Rabid M8 vs Cathadh

Carbide	Rabid M8	Cathadh
Votes 1: Carbide, 2: Cathadh, 3: Rabid M8. Well then, random.org doesn't want Carbide to break into a sweat. Cathadh seems like it should be Carbide's first target and should be one-shottable, but we have seen RabiDee M8 being OHKO'd twice by spinners. Carbide could potentially score a ZHKO! Yeah, Zero hit Knock-Out. Jimlaad43(talk) 21:18, February 21, 2018 (UTC) 1: Carbide, 2: Cathadh, 3: Rabid M8. Don't bring wheels into the arena count: 2. That pretty much sums up both Rabid M8's and Cathadah's performances here, since their wheels should be taken out by the top seed in no time. Considering how Rabid M8's wheels have less protection than Cathadah's, it should go out first. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 21:23, February 21, 2018 (UTC) 1: Carbide, 2: Cathadh, 3: Rabid M8. Two very easy robots for Carbide to dismiss, and one that the other can beat comfortably too. Hogwild94 (talk) 21:25, February 21, 2018 (UTC) 1: Carbide, 2: Rabid M8, 3: Cathadh. Team REC were perfectly good drivers, especially in the hands of a thwackbot they didn't even build. I trust them to flee from Carbide while it tries to scout out the more obvious threat in Cathadh. TOAST 21:31, February 21, 2018 (UTC) 1: Carbide, 2: Cathadh, 3: Rabid M8. An easy enough clash for Carbide, and I feel Rabid is just too vulnerable. That and I'm still kinda annoyed that it's pronounced Rabid em-ate, and not Rabid mate. There was a missed pun opportunity there. CrashBash (talk) 21:49, February 21, 2018 (UTC) 1. Carbide, 2. Cathadh, 3. Rabid M8. Both the bar spinners will likely target Rabid M8, and it won't avoid both, so I'll say it goes out first. Cathadh is then also killed. Both will go down in one hit. Nweston8 (talk) 21:54, February 21, 2018 (UTC) 1. Carbide, 2. Rabid M8, 3. Cathadh Carbide won't be afraid to go after Cathadh first, who will be too busy spinning up to realise what hit them. Rabid M8 was driven well, and should avoid it early on. Raz3r(talk) 22:27, February 21, 2018 (UTC) Also, can I just clear up how we're doing this? The lowest scoring robot (e.g. Carbide has 7 points at this moment, Rabid M8 19 and Cathadh 16) is first, second lowest second etc, or is it the robot with the most votes in 1st place? Raz3r(talk) 22:37, February 21, 2018 (UTC) Most votes for first place, then most votes for second place, then third. In the event of a tie, I will do a points total of all the votes, where 1st is 3, 2nd is 2, 3rd is 1, and most of that wins. If it's still a tie, judges decision. Jimlaad43(talk) 22:45, February 21, 2018 (UTC) 1: Carbide, 2: Rabid M8, 3: Cathadh. Well, we finally get the chance to see Arena Cleaner face the Series 9 champion in some form… and it’s going to get clobbered straight away. The considerably faster and less ponderous Rabid Mate won’t fare much better, either… VulcansHowl 23:20, February 21, 2018 (UTC) 1: Carbide, 2: Cathadh, 3: Rabid M8. I feel as though the tires on Rabid will be a good weak spot for Carbide to exploit. Yes I know the same can be said for Cathadh, but in my eyes, Rabid would be the weaker link here. BizarroKing (talk) 23:49, February 21, 2018 (UTC) 1.Carbide 2.Rabid M8 3. Cathadh Starting already? Alright! So Carbide will have an easy time destroying those wheels from both opponents. However upon watching the Internationals again, I found Rabid M8 to be the speedier and well driven, hence why I rated it higher than Cathadh.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 07:03, February 22, 2018 (UTC) 1. Carbide, 2. Rabid M8 3. Cathadh This shouldn't even be close, Cathadh's wheels are so exposed they border on isolated, wheras Rabid M8 at least has metal plates. I'd be amazed if Cathadh wasn't left in splinters after this fight. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 08:30, February 22, 2018 (UTC) 1. Carbide, 2. Rabid M8, 3. Cathadh Cathadh just seems more fragile than Rabid M8. I mean granted Rabid isn't going to come anywhere near the performance of Gabriel 2, but it should survive for much longer, and of course by "much longer" I mean about 30 seconds longer? CaliforniaKingsnake (talk) 13:22, February 22, 2018 (UTC)
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Terrorhurtz vs Big Nipper vs Tauron

Terrorhurtz	Big Nipper	Tauron
Votes 1: Big Nipper, 2: Tauron, 3: Terrorhurtz. But, looking at the rest of the heat, random.org wants to challenge Carbide. Despite its obvious anti-horizontal flywheel wedge, Terrorhurtz was highlighted in Series 9 as not being great against Vertical spinners. One of BN or Tauron will be able to distract Terrorhurtz enough for the other I also feel like Big Nipper will beat Tauron with either the claws or the disc, it's just the right shape to damage, or lift, the cage around the weapon and just generally be a nuisance. Jimlaad43(talk) 21:18, February 21, 2018 (UTC) 1: Terrorhurtz, 2: Tauron, 3: Big Nipper. I completely disagree. Looking at Big Nipper's performance in its melee, it took a single blow from Gabriel and lost drive. "Good hits" from Terrorhurtz's axe should generally be enough for a knockout rather early on. Meanwhile, whilst I accept Tauron will survive for longer, I feel that its generally poor driving will enable Terrorhurtz to capitalise, eventually taking out its opponent's spinner with some well-timed "good hits". It should control the battle from there. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 21:23, February 21, 2018 (UTC) 1: Big Nipper, 2: Terrorhurtz, 3: Tauron. Terrorhurtz is the most vulnerable of this lot, but is also by far the most durable. Tauron's spinner won't cause it much damage, and is also too high to catch Big Nipper, whose spinner I think can damage both opponents sufficiently to win. Hogwild94 (talk) 21:28, February 21, 2018 (UTC) 1: Tauron, 2: Big Nipper, 3: Terrorhurtz. Have fun figuring this one out, Jimlaad! Terrorhurtz is indeed capable of beating Big Nipper with potentially a single blow, but Big Nipper generally holds off Thor and Gabriel at live events, and I think it was a loose bolt from Gabriel's entanglement device which did the true damage. Presuming its survival, I see Terrorhurtz falling to a big vertical hit from Big Nipper which flips it after the CO2 runs out; alternatively Tauron just smashes it from behind. In the head-to-head between Big Nipper and Tauron, we saw just how close Big Nipper's components are to its outer shell when Matilda plastered it and set the robot on fire. While Tauron can't do THAT much damage, it has plentiful spin-up time, and should beat Big Nipper on damage. TOAST 21:34, February 21, 2018 (UTC) 1. Terrorhurtz, 2: Big Nipper, 3: Tauron. This is a really close call. Tauron's questionable armour/driving is always going to leave it vulnerable to both Big Nipper and Terrorhurtz, so I think it'll be first to fall. Between Big Nipper and Terrorhurtz, it's a little tougher. I can understand the logic of Terrorhurtz being weak to vertical spinners, but to be fair, that's basing it largely on what happened with Aftershock, where it was more Terrorhurtz's axe not working properly more than what Aftershock did...and also, Big Nipper's disc I'm not convinced will be able to pull of quite the same stunt. CrashBash (talk) 21:53, February 21, 2018 (UTC) (and Sabretooth). Jimlaad43(talk) 22:07, February 21, 2018 (UTC) 1. Terrorhurtz, 2. Big Nipper, 3. Tauron Mk2. Big Nipper's spinner is very consistent, but it hardy deals out massive blows 24/7. Terrorhurtz's slams should score enough points, while Tauron will struggle to get going - also taking damage to its armour. Nweston8 (talk) 21:57, February 21, 2018 (UTC) 1. Big Nipper, 2. Terrorhurtz, 3. Tauron Terrorhurtz's biggest issue will be one that arose only in Series 10: its tendency to rear. The tail isn't as good as the old one, and a drive at Big Nipper could see the disc bash into the underside of the wedge of Terrorhurtz, which could flip it over or at least send it up. Tauron's spinner didn't do enough to convince it'll be more damaging than Big Nipper's, nor is it driven as well, and I suspect it'll be pushed around easily by Terrorhurtz. All three to survive, but Big Nipper to take it on damage. Raz3r(talk) 22:27, February 21, 2018 (UTC) 1: Big Nipper, 2: Tauron 3: Terrorhurtz. One thing to remember is that prior to the real Series 10, Big Nipper had already fought Terrorhurtz at live events – and proved a formidable match with the claws fitted. With the single-toothed disc, it has the potential to flip, chip and possibly shred Terrorhurtz to ribbons, although its top armour is likely to sustain a lot of dents and gashes from the latter’s improved axe. Mind you, Tauron’s bar could be equally as potent once it gets up to speed – but will the inexperience and manoeuvrability issues it faced in the real Series 10 count against it here? Given that Tauron's top armour is also made out of HDPE, something tells me that Terrorhurtz would be more likely to push and hack away at the Bedfordshire machine first, scoring a major advantage on all three criteria in the early stages. At some point, however, it is bound to run out of gas or sustain critical damage to its sides and/or tail from either - or perhaps even both - of the spinners. Big Nipper’s disc in particular would prove powerful enough to throw heavyweights clean over, so it wouldn’t surprise me if it managed to score a surprise knockout blow on Terrorhurtz, either by disabling its drive or flipping it while its CO2 supply is depleted. From there, Big Nipper should be poised and consistent enough to overwhelm the less experienced Tauron, taking the Judges’ decision on all three criteria in the wake of Terrorhurtz’s demise. VulcansHowl 23:20, February 21, 2018 (UTC) 1: Big Nipper, 2: Terrorhurtz, 3: Tauron: Terrorhurtz' axe feels like it can still dish out some considerable damage so I think Tauron will get axed while Big Nipper can take BOTH out. BizarroKing (talk) 23:49, February 21, 2018 (UTC) 1: Big Nipper 2: Terrorhurtz 3: Tauron Tauron is one of THOSE robots that has a BFW and wasn't particularly reliable, but is able still to put up a fight. Unfortunately it's against two very impressive and powerful "allstar" robots. Between Big Nipper and Terrorhurtz, thought bout are vastly different I feel Big Nipper, being closer to the ground and armed with ether claws of a vertical flywheel, will damage the sides and bad ends of ether robot, which as we've seen ca hinder Terrorhurtz massively.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 07:07, February 22, 2018 (UTC) 1. Tauron 2. Big Nipper 3. Terrorhurtz People seem set to dismiss Tauron, but it was winning its first battle and only lost on a BS technicality, and its second battle it was hindered by a weapon that can actually stop it. Terrorhurtz isn't as well driven as people think, it struggles to connect with its axe far more than people realise, and with a 0-2 record against vertical spinners I have little faith here. We have no idea which weapon Big Nipper will use here, but its getting laughably overrated these days. Its disc is its best hope of victory, but with a OHKO and a blazing inferno both in Series 10, I think people are not anticipating the failure we should expect. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 08:33, February 22, 2018 (UTC) Except that blazing inferno came from Matilda, who has a disc much heavier and more powerful than any competitor, let alone Tauron. Also, as the others have said, Big Nipper has fought axe-bots before at live events without being OHKOed. CrashBash (talk) 08:45, February 22, 2018 (UTC) I don't think any arguments here are under or overrating any robots. This is a very even fight between 3 good robots and choosing an order is extremely tough. It is 100% a battle where every option is both valid and plausible. It will come down to luck really as to who is the winner because we're all giving different, but correct, accounts of the same fight. Obviously there will be battles where some orders are pretty much implausible, such as Rabid M8 winning the other battle, but this is one to savour. Jimlaad43(talk) 10:36, February 22, 2018 (UTC) 1. Tauron, 2. Big Nipper, 3. Terrorhurtz Terrorhurtz couldn't have had a worse draw if it tried. Terrorhurtz just isn't designed for vertical spinners, and while I will give John credit in that both spinners will have a few good hits landed on them, but eventually le grand fromage will fall. As for Tauron v Big Nipper, I wouldn't put it past Tauron to land a good hit on the side of Big Nipper to maybe lock a drive up or hit a battery to cause them to go out. CaliforniaKingsnake (talk) 13:22, February 22, 2018 (UTC)
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