Forum:Audited Series 10 - Heat 1

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42 robots, from the UK and all over the world, have come together to fight for the Robot Wars title. A new format shakes things up, and allows robots to find redemption if required. 7 heats await us before the 8 robot Grand Final. But 7 heat winners doesn't go into 8 does it? No it doesn't. The robots who come 2nd and 3rd in each heat will all enter the arena at the same time and battle until there is one robot left standing, in the absolutely massive 14 Robot Rumble. You do not want to miss it! Tonight though, reigning champions Carbide are here to defend their title in style. Will it be as easy as last year? To find out, it's over to Jimathon Peaarce.

Round 1

Please start your vote with your result in bold, as shown here: 1: First, 2: Second, 3: Third.

Carbide (1) vs Rabid M8 vs Cathadh

Carbide	Rabid M8	Cathadh
Votes 1: Carbide, 2: Cathadh, 3: Rabid M8. Well then, random.org doesn't want Carbide to break into a sweat. Cathadh seems like it should be Carbide's first target and should be one-shottable, but we have seen RabiDee M8 being OHKO'd twice by spinners. Carbide could potentially score a ZHKO! Yeah, Zero hit Knock-Out. Jimlaad43(talk) 21:18, February 21, 2018 (UTC) 1: Carbide, 2: Cathadh, 3: Rabid M8. Don't bring wheels into the arena count: 2. That pretty much sums up both Rabid M8's and Cathadah's performances here, since their wheels should be taken out by the top seed in no time. Considering how Rabid M8's wheels have less protection than Cathadah's, it should go out first. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 21:23, February 21, 2018 (UTC) 1: Carbide, 2: Cathadh, 3: Rabid M8. Two very easy robots for Carbide to dismiss, and one that the other can beat comfortably too. Hogwild94 (talk) 21:25, February 21, 2018 (UTC) 1: Carbide, 2: Rabid M8, 3: Cathadh. Team REC were perfectly good drivers, especially in the hands of a thwackbot they didn't even build. I trust them to flee from Carbide while it tries to scout out the more obvious threat in Cathadh. TOAST 21:31, February 21, 2018 (UTC) I think I've been convinced by Nick, log my actual vote as Cathadh in second. Carbide is not the only one which can OHKO Rabid M8. TOAST 21:06, February 22, 2018 (UTC) 1: Carbide, 2: Cathadh, 3: Rabid M8. An easy enough clash for Carbide, and I feel Rabid is just too vulnerable. That and I'm still kinda annoyed that it's pronounced Rabid em-ate, and not Rabid mate. There was a missed pun opportunity there. CrashBash (talk) 21:49, February 21, 2018 (UTC) 1. Carbide, 2. Cathadh, 3. Rabid M8. Both the bar spinners will likely target Rabid M8, and it won't avoid both, so I'll say it goes out first. Cathadh is then also killed. Both will go down in one hit. Nweston8 (talk) 21:54, February 21, 2018 (UTC) 1. Carbide, 2. Rabid M8, 3. Cathadh Carbide won't be afraid to go after Cathadh first, who will be too busy spinning up to realise what hit them. Rabid M8 was driven well, and should avoid it early on. Raz3r(talk) 22:27, February 21, 2018 (UTC) Also, can I just clear up how we're doing this? The lowest scoring robot (e.g. Carbide has 7 points at this moment, Rabid M8 19 and Cathadh 16) is first, second lowest second etc, or is it the robot with the most votes in 1st place? Raz3r(talk) 22:37, February 21, 2018 (UTC) Most votes for first place, then most votes for second place, then third. In the event of a tie, I will do a points total of all the votes, where 1st is 3, 2nd is 2, 3rd is 1, and most of that wins. If it's still a tie, judges decision. Jimlaad43(talk) 22:45, February 21, 2018 (UTC) 1: Carbide, 2: Rabid M8, 3: Cathadh. Well, we finally get the chance to see Arena Cleaner face the Series 9 champion in some form… and it’s going to get clobbered straight away. The considerably faster and less ponderous Rabid Mate won’t fare much better, either… VulcansHowl 23:20, February 21, 2018 (UTC) 1: Carbide, 2: Cathadh, 3: Rabid M8. I feel as though the tires on Rabid will be a good weak spot for Carbide to exploit. Yes I know the same can be said for Cathadh, but in my eyes, Rabid would be the weaker link here. BizarroKing (talk) 23:49, February 21, 2018 (UTC) 1.Carbide 2.Rabid M8 3. Cathadh Starting already? Alright! So Carbide will have an easy time destroying those wheels from both opponents. However upon watching the Internationals again, I found Rabid M8 to be the speedier and well driven, hence why I rated it higher than Cathadh.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 07:03, February 22, 2018 (UTC) 1. Carbide, 2. Rabid M8 3. Cathadh This shouldn't even be close, Cathadh's wheels are so exposed they border on isolated, wheras Rabid M8 at least has metal plates. I'd be amazed if Cathadh wasn't left in splinters after this fight. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 08:30, February 22, 2018 (UTC) 1. Carbide, 2. Rabid M8, 3. Cathadh Cathadh just seems more fragile than Rabid M8. I mean granted Rabid isn't going to come anywhere near the performance of Gabriel 2, but it should survive for much longer, and of course by "much longer" I mean about 30 seconds longer? CaliforniaKingsnake (talk) 13:22, February 22, 2018 (UTC) 1: Carbide, 2: Cathadh, 3: Rabid M8 - Honestly, this could go either way, but given that, in its Series 9 Grand Final melee, Carbide chose to take out Concussion rather than a robot with a massive spinning bar, I've got a feeling that Carbide would go for Rabid M8 first, before taking out Cathadh (I've honestly been trying for the past few minutes to blend Arena Cleaner and Cathadh into one name and it just won't go. Arenadh Caleaner was the closest I got). Combatwombat555 (talk) 17:56, February 22, 2018 (UTC) Doesn't work anywhere near as well as Diotoir Machina or RabiDee M8. CrashBash (talk) 17:59, February 22, 2018 (UTC) KaDiotoirna Machina, Interweber: MML (unconfirmed), Terror Nemestralis, the list goes on. Jimlaad43(talk) 18:42, February 22, 2018 (UTC) Interweber was definitely disconfirmed, Vulcans followed up on that one and we got a perfectly plausible explanation. TOAST 21:06, February 22, 2018 (UTC)
1st: Carbide, 2nd: Cathadh, 3rd: Rabid M8

Terrorhurtz vs Big Nipper vs Tauron

Terrorhurtz	Big Nipper	Tauron
Votes 1: Big Nipper, 2: Tauron, 3: Terrorhurtz. But, looking at the rest of the heat, random.org wants to challenge Carbide. Despite its obvious anti-horizontal flywheel wedge, Terrorhurtz was highlighted in Series 9 as not being great against Vertical spinners. One of BN or Tauron will be able to distract Terrorhurtz enough for the other I also feel like Big Nipper will beat Tauron with either the claws or the disc, it's just the right shape to damage, or lift, the cage around the weapon and just generally be a nuisance. Jimlaad43(talk) 21:18, February 21, 2018 (UTC) 1: Terrorhurtz, 2: Tauron, 3: Big Nipper. I completely disagree. Looking at Big Nipper's performance in its melee, it took a single blow from Gabriel and lost drive. "Good hits" from Terrorhurtz's axe should generally be enough for a knockout rather early on. Meanwhile, whilst I accept Tauron will survive for longer, I feel that its generally poor driving will enable Terrorhurtz to capitalise, eventually taking out its opponent's spinner with some well-timed "good hits". It should control the battle from there. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 21:23, February 21, 2018 (UTC) 1: Big Nipper, 2: Terrorhurtz, 3: Tauron. Terrorhurtz is the most vulnerable of this lot, but is also by far the most durable. Tauron's spinner won't cause it much damage, and is also too high to catch Big Nipper, whose spinner I think can damage both opponents sufficiently to win. Hogwild94 (talk) 21:28, February 21, 2018 (UTC) 1: Tauron, 2: Big Nipper, 3: Terrorhurtz. Have fun figuring this one out, Jimlaad! Terrorhurtz is indeed capable of beating Big Nipper with potentially a single blow, but Big Nipper generally holds off Thor and Gabriel at live events, and I think it was a loose bolt from Gabriel's entanglement device which did the true damage. Presuming its survival, I see Terrorhurtz falling to a big vertical hit from Big Nipper which flips it after the CO2 runs out; alternatively Tauron just smashes it from behind. In the head-to-head between Big Nipper and Tauron, we saw just how close Big Nipper's components are to its outer shell when Matilda plastered it and set the robot on fire. While Tauron can't do THAT much damage, it has plentiful spin-up time, and should beat Big Nipper on damage. TOAST 21:34, February 21, 2018 (UTC) 1. Terrorhurtz, 2: Big Nipper, 3: Tauron. This is a really close call. Tauron's questionable armour/driving is always going to leave it vulnerable to both Big Nipper and Terrorhurtz, so I think it'll be first to fall. Between Big Nipper and Terrorhurtz, it's a little tougher. I can understand the logic of Terrorhurtz being weak to vertical spinners, but to be fair, that's basing it largely on what happened with Aftershock, where it was more Terrorhurtz's axe not working properly more than what Aftershock did...and also, Big Nipper's disc I'm not convinced will be able to pull of quite the same stunt. CrashBash (talk) 21:53, February 21, 2018 (UTC) (and Sabretooth). Jimlaad43(talk) 22:07, February 21, 2018 (UTC) 1. Terrorhurtz, 2. Big Nipper, 3. Tauron Mk2. Big Nipper's spinner is very consistent, but it hardy deals out massive blows 24/7. Terrorhurtz's slams should score enough points, while Tauron will struggle to get going - also taking damage to its armour. Nweston8 (talk) 21:57, February 21, 2018 (UTC) 1. Big Nipper, 2. Terrorhurtz, 3. Tauron Terrorhurtz's biggest issue will be one that arose only in Series 10: its tendency to rear. The tail isn't as good as the old one, and a drive at Big Nipper could see the disc bash into the underside of the wedge of Terrorhurtz, which could flip it over or at least send it up. Tauron's spinner didn't do enough to convince it'll be more damaging than Big Nipper's, nor is it driven as well, and I suspect it'll be pushed around easily by Terrorhurtz. All three to survive, but Big Nipper to take it on damage. Raz3r(talk) 22:27, February 21, 2018 (UTC) 1: Big Nipper, 2: Tauron 3: Terrorhurtz. One thing to remember is that prior to the real Series 10, Big Nipper had already fought Terrorhurtz at live events – and proved a formidable match with the claws fitted. With the single-toothed disc, it has the potential to flip, chip and possibly shred Terrorhurtz to ribbons, although its top armour is likely to sustain a lot of dents and gashes from the latter’s improved axe. Mind you, Tauron’s bar could be equally as potent once it gets up to speed – but will the inexperience and manoeuvrability issues it faced in the real Series 10 count against it here? Given that Tauron's top armour is also made out of HDPE, something tells me that Terrorhurtz would be more likely to push and hack away at the Bedfordshire machine first, scoring a major advantage on all three criteria in the early stages. At some point, however, it is bound to run out of gas or sustain critical damage to its sides and/or tail from either - or perhaps even both - of the spinners. Big Nipper’s disc in particular would prove powerful enough to throw heavyweights clean over, so it wouldn’t surprise me if it managed to score a surprise knockout blow on Terrorhurtz, either by disabling its drive or flipping it while its CO2 supply is depleted. From there, Big Nipper should be poised and consistent enough to overwhelm the less experienced Tauron, taking the Judges’ decision on all three criteria in the wake of Terrorhurtz’s demise. VulcansHowl 23:20, February 21, 2018 (UTC) 1: Big Nipper, 2: Terrorhurtz, 3: Tauron: Terrorhurtz' axe feels like it can still dish out some considerable damage so I think Tauron will get axed while Big Nipper can take BOTH out. BizarroKing (talk) 23:49, February 21, 2018 (UTC) 1: Big Nipper 2: Terrorhurtz 3: Tauron Tauron is one of THOSE robots that has a BFW and wasn't particularly reliable, but is able still to put up a fight. Unfortunately it's against two very impressive and powerful "allstar" robots. Between Big Nipper and Terrorhurtz, thought bout are vastly different I feel Big Nipper, being closer to the ground and armed with ether claws of a vertical flywheel, will damage the sides and bad ends of ether robot, which as we've seen ca hinder Terrorhurtz massively.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 07:07, February 22, 2018 (UTC) 1. Tauron 2. Big Nipper 3. Terrorhurtz People seem set to dismiss Tauron, but it was winning its first battle and only lost on a BS technicality, and its second battle it was hindered by a weapon that can actually stop it. Terrorhurtz isn't as well driven as people think, it struggles to connect with its axe far more than people realise, and with a 0-2 record against vertical spinners I have little faith here. We have no idea which weapon Big Nipper will use here, but its getting laughably overrated these days. Its disc is its best hope of victory, but with a OHKO and a blazing inferno both in Series 10, I think people are not anticipating the failure we should expect. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 08:33, February 22, 2018 (UTC) Except that blazing inferno came from Matilda, who has a disc much heavier and more powerful than any competitor, let alone Tauron. Also, as the others have said, Big Nipper has fought axe-bots before at live events without being OHKOed. CrashBash (talk) 08:45, February 22, 2018 (UTC) I don't think any arguments here are under or overrating any robots. This is a very even fight between 3 good robots and choosing an order is extremely tough. It is 100% a battle where every option is both valid and plausible. It will come down to luck really as to who is the winner because we're all giving different, but correct, accounts of the same fight. Obviously there will be battles where some orders are pretty much implausible, such as Rabid M8 winning the other battle, but this is one to savour. Jimlaad43(talk) 10:36, February 22, 2018 (UTC) 1. Tauron, 2. Big Nipper, 3. Terrorhurtz Terrorhurtz couldn't have had a worse draw if it tried. Terrorhurtz just isn't designed for vertical spinners, and while I will give John credit in that both spinners will have a few good hits landed on them, but eventually le grand fromage will fall. As for Tauron v Big Nipper, I wouldn't put it past Tauron to land a good hit on the side of Big Nipper to maybe lock a drive up or hit a battery to cause them to go out. CaliforniaKingsnake (talk) 13:22, February 22, 2018 (UTC) 1: Big Nipper, 2: Terrorhurtz, 3: Tauron - The OHKO on Big Nipper came about because one of the bolts from Gabriel's entanglement got lodged in its wheel and messed it up- nothing in this fight will have that same effect. And yes, it became a fireball after a shot from Matilda, but given that it actually continued fighting reasonably effectively after that and Tauron's weapon doesn't have the same power I think it'll be alright here. Tauron's weapon is good, but Big Nipper defeated a superior vertical spinner in Aftershock, and Terrorhurtz was actually doing pretty well against Aftershock until it delivered that massive hit to the bottom of the wedge with the help of the floor flipper- I really doubt Tauron can do that same, and its plastic armour means it'll be the first to fall. Big Nipper I think can do the same and lob Terrorhurtz, and deliver a nasty blow to the rear whilst its trying to recover, giving Big Nipper the win. Combatwombat555 (talk) 18:32, February 22, 2018 (UTC)
1st: Big Nipper, 2nd: Terrorhurtz, 3rd: Tauron

Redemption Round

Rabid M8 vs Terrorhurtz

Rabid M8	Terrorhurtz
Votes for Rabid M8	Votes for Terrorhurtz John Reid spent so much time putting Dee back together because it was terrible, and I bet he'd be glad he has this opportunity to tear it to shreds. Jimlaad43(talk) 14:18, February 23, 2018 (UTC) Easy win here. CaliforniaKingsnake (talk) 14:21, February 23, 2018 (UTC) This entire round is a formality. CrashBash (talk) 14:22, February 23, 2018 (UTC) I'm probably only going to leave this particular round open for one day, and do the next update sometime tomorrow afternoon or evening because of this. Jimlaad43(talk) 14:29, February 23, 2018 (UTC) Based on the fact that me and Toast have voted for Cathadh in the other round, I would recommend that you do not. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 16:52, February 23, 2018 (UTC) The potential for innuendos is endless. John Reid bashes several out on RabiDee with Terrorhurtz's axe, which did display more power than it seemed to in Series 8 or 9. The question is whether or not he'll actually enjoy destroying RabidDee. Raz3r(talk) 15:29, February 23, 2018 (UTC) Rabid's link will come out at some point. Nweston8 (talk) 15:41, February 23, 2018 (UTC) The rematch nobody asked for. TOAST 16:14, February 23, 2018 (UTC) This would be an interesting match, and perhaps lasting the whole round...THAT SAID Rabidee won't win.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 16:23, February 23, 2018 (UTC) Oddly, I came close to voting for Rabid M8. Personally, I believe that the generally slippery nature of the machine may generally make hitting it quite a challenge for Terrorhurtz's axe, no matter how powerful the axe is. Instead, although Rabid M8 will generally be aggressive, Terrorhurtz should have the pushing power needed to win through control and aggression. This entire round is a formality? I think not. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 16:52, February 23, 2018 (UTC) Easy. Hogwild94 (talk) 19:04, February 23, 2018 (UTC) I do not see how a stock robot such as Rabid could beat a former grand finalist. BizarroKing (talk) 22:11, February 23, 2018 (UTC) Team REC may be flamboyant and skilled drivers, but Terrorhurtz will be sure to give Rabid M8 the jab sooner or later. VulcansHowl 11:59, February 24, 2018 (UTC)
Winner: Terrorhurtz (0-11)

Cathadh vs Tauron

Cathadh	Tauron
Votes for Cathadh I will place the contrarian vote and say that if we didn't see Cathadh and only saw Arena Cleaner, then we would be voting this way. It's fair enough for Cathadh to lose its weapon against an otherwise illegal entanglement device, and Mauldin clearly didn't have time to repair Concussion's attack due to all the filming he had to do as team captain. Based on a working Cathadh, Tauron's 4mm armour won't hold up, and Cathadh's weapon gets up tae speed much quicker. TOAST 16:14, February 23, 2018 (UTC) But the issue is we did see Cathadh, and with Diotoir and Rabid M8, it showed that a lot of the time a stock robot is too unreliable to face a "real" robot. Tauron only has to aim for the wheels. Even if Arena Cleaner got more hits in, Tauron just needs one or two of its own to take the victory. Jimlaad43(talk) 16:29, February 23, 2018 (UTC) Hitting an exposed wheel with a horizontal spinner, easy. Hitting an exposed wheel behind a deadly weapon with a vertical spinner, not quite as easy. Reliability issues were demonstrated by Diotoir and Rabid M8 but as far as I'm concerned, Cathadh didn't show proof, it was KO'ed by an attack which would immobilise most of the series' cast. As it was internally reworked by Mauldin, I don't see it as 'just a stock robot', it certainly is on the outside, but the insides can't be compared to the other loanerbots. This is no sympathy vote, I do believe that Cathadh's superior range will win the battle here, especially if Tauron drives in without a fully charged weapon. TOAST 16:50, February 23, 2018 (UTC) I have to vote here, as I still really do not see the hype for Tauron, at all. Whilst Cathadh/Arena Cleaner might generally be unreliable, I highly doubt that Tauron's armour is going to survive successive hits without taking some sort of deadly impact. This is especially true if they hit head-on, where I am thinking that providing Cathadh does not make a silly driving error, should result in a knockout eventually. It is really weird; a large number of people find 259 to not only be massively overrated, but also disappointing. For me, Tauron is the modern-day version of 259, except that at least 259 beat Splinter. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 16:52, February 23, 2018 (UTC) Oh, trust me, I feel more or less the same way with Tauron as I do with 259. CrashBash (talk) 17:23, February 23, 2018 (UTC) I agree with you and CrashBash, I'm no big fan and I'd even say it may be overrated by many despite (as we've seen in Series 9, 10 AND the live events) it being very unreliable. But here I can see it winning because of its opponent...next round probably the opposite.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 19:03, February 23, 2018 (UTC)	Votes for Tauron Tauron can finally get the win it deserves by tearing Arenadh Catheaner apart with their superior spinner and non-exposed wheels. Jimlaad43(talk) 14:18, February 23, 2018 (UTC) Exposed wheels and weapon belt, easy victory for Tauron. CaliforniaKingsnake (talk) 14:21, February 23, 2018 (UTC) There we go. Tauron wins a battle. Is everything alright with the world now? CrashBash (talk) 14:22, February 23, 2018 (UTC) Tauron is tougher and more reliable in practically every way. Cathadh has more reach, but Tauron will get the tyres at some point, and could easily destroy the exposed weapon belt on Cathadh. Raz3r(talk) 15:29, February 23, 2018 (UTC) The loanerbots don't take to solid impacts well at all, and at head-on collision in this fight will give further evidence of that. Nweston8 (talk) 15:42, February 23, 2018 (UTC) Even if it did work, it won't last long with those wheels and weak armour! Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 16:24, February 23, 2018 (UTC) Two pretty decent spinners, one of which has exposed wheels the other can go to town on. Hogwild94 (talk) 19:05, February 23, 2018 (UTC) Absolute walkover. I’m still not convinced Cathadh would even be able to make this fight after inevitable being wrecked by Carbide. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 20:32, February 23, 2018 (UTC) Superior spinning blade belongs to Tauron hence why I feel they will take this one. BizarroKing (talk) 22:11, February 23, 2018 (UTC) Don't forget, there is the possibility of Cathadh's weapon belt slipping off after a few hits. Regardless of how much damage Tauron sustains throughout, I still trust it to survive and at least shred the wheels of the Team Toad-modified machine. VulcansHowl 11:59, February 24, 2018 (UTC)
Winner: Tauron (2-10)

Semi-Finals

Carbide (1) vs Terrorhurtz

Carbide	Terrorhurtz
Votes for Carbide Oh dear, it's hard not to be cynical about these tournaments constantly drawing Terrorhurtz v Carbide. Honestly, it used to be a relief but now that Eruption is the dominant one, not Carbide, I no longer feel losing Carbide is a relief. But that aside, I honestly don't think Terrorhurtz is a set Carbide-killer. It's rear is too fragile, and the Fog of War and Rogue House Robot mean the pit isn't going to be a reliable factor. Carbide has improved since 8; we have pretty much written off an Apollo re-win, so I think having Terrorhurtz win 100% of the time is not plausible. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 23:30, February 24, 2018 (UTC) Let's face it, the pit isn't going to open. If it's a match where the pit is necessary (e.g. Thor vs TAN, Eruption vs Carbide, Thor vs Coyote), the pit doesn't open, that's the unfortunate reality. Terrorhurtz can't win without it. TOAST 23:33, February 24, 2018 (UTC) The Pit not opening will only extend Terrorhurtz's dominance. It won't help Carbide in a Judges' decision. Nweston8 (talk) 23:42, February 24, 2018 (UTC) Terrorhurtz beat Carbide because the blade stopped working. If Carbide can catch Terrorhurtz's back end before it stops, I'd say it'd win this. Hogwild94 (talk) 19:10, February 25, 2018 (UTC) Carbide broke down, but its weapon worked for the whole fight. Well, except for about 1 second in the middle of the fight, but by then Carbide had already been beaten. Raz3r(talk) 19:55, February 25, 2018 (UTC)	Votes for Terrorhurtz While at Series 10 filming, Toast and I saw Terrorhurtz fight Apex. In the unbroadcast 4-second first attempt of Vulture vs Terrorhurtz vs Apex, we saw Terrorhurtz completely eat up Apex's weapon and killed its flywheel. This proved to the both of us that the high wedge is perfect against horizontal flywheels, and that it's win in Series 8 wasn't a fluke. Apex vs Track-tion further proved it. For this reason, I cannot side with the champs and can see Carbide being pushed back for the whole battle, maybe even losing a tyre if the axe comes into play. Jimlaad43(talk) 23:21, February 24, 2018 (UTC) Carbide is improved but its still a horizontal bar against Terrorhurtz. Carbide's bar can't get any bite and the width of Terrorhurtz's front will stop Carbide moving into Terrorhurtz's vulnerable areas. Another dominant Terrorhurtz performance vs. Carbide, resulting in another Carbide loss. Nweston8 (talk) 23:31, February 24, 2018 (UTC) Honestly, nothing can ever convince me that what happened in Series 8 was a fluke. Carbide has improved, yes, but so had Terrorhurtz in the same aspect. BTW, I can think of at least one non-Carbide robot that could beat Eruption and it probably isn't who you think...but we'll wait and see if they come to blows. CrashBash (talk) 06:04, February 25, 2018 (UTC) I must admit it's a hard battle to decide, but that Series 8 battle was no fluke. Both robots have improved since and as JimLaad has witnessed (among others who saw those 4 seconds) it seems Terrorhurtz is still capable of battering horizontal spinners (though I must say comparing Apex to Carbide isn't the best considering how poor Apex is, it's a bit like comparing a sheet of paper against a sheet of steel) that said we saw in Series 10 that Carbide's weapon had somehow downgraded to the Series 8 weapon meaning Terrorhurtz could do what it did before with or without a pit (what I mean by "downgraded to the Series 8 weapon" is in Series 9 it almost never stopped spinning even after an impact/bash, in 8 and 10 the slightest bash caused it to stop) Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 07:08, February 25, 2018 (UTC) I'd be confident in voting one robot over Eruption other than Carbide, but we'll have to see how things play out... Even without the pit, I trust Terrorhurtz to win this battle. Carbide always struggled in fights it couldn't win quickly; every time it has gone to a judges' decision, something has gone a bit wrong with it along the way, be that its spinner, the internals or a half destroyed tyre, winning 1 and losing 4. With the pressure Terrorhurtz can deal out, I'm confident it'll force Carbide to face at least one of these three issues once more, and the only way Carbide can win is by getting round the back of Terrorhurtz very quickly and ripping off the tail. However, it'll be more difficult for Carbide to do this than Sabretooth or Aftershock because it's a horizontal spinner. It might rip away some of the polycarbonate, but so did Aftershock very early on in their fight, and Terrorhurtz weren't worried by that. Terrorhurtz to tank its way to victory. Raz3r(talk) 09:55, February 25, 2018 (UTC) There are in fact two robots I know can actually beat Eruption, who are not Carbide. And there is also another one who I think MIGHT beat the flipper, but we will just have to wait and see if any will face it. Anyhow, providing that Terrorhurtz's does not suddenly lose its tail, it should not have too many problems here. After all, one of the main weaknesses of any vertical spinner is that they need to win as soon as possible. The longer this battle goes on for, the more damage Carbide's internals will suffer after every hit. Also, remember that Terrorhurtz lacked its axe in Series 8; surely that will give it a major advantage here? SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 10:22, February 25, 2018 (UTC) I might say that Carbide has upgraded massively since their previous encounter, but Terrorhurtz has likewise seen upgrades. Now while I do think Terrorhurtz's polycarb will be damaged, I also expect Terrorhurtz to control the fight until a judges' decision, or if the pit decides it wants to open. CaliforniaKingsnake (talk) 15:29, February 25, 2018 (UTC)
Winner:

Big Nipper vs Tauron

Big Nipper	Tauron
Votes for Big Nipper To be honest, Big Nipper would be better with the claws here. There is a great cage around the weapon to grip onto, and Tauron doesn't seem like the best robots for pushing. We've seen Androne 4000 beat it by being able to control Tauron and soak up the damage. Big Nipper should be fine. Jimlaad43(talk) 23:21, February 24, 2018 (UTC) Big Nipper is more clever and will grind Tauron down. Nweston8 (talk) 23:36, February 24, 2018 (UTC) No matter which weapon Big Nipper has, it will control the battle easily. CrashBash (talk) 06:25, February 25, 2018 (UTC) Pretty much what I think has been mentioned in the above three comments.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 06:59, February 25, 2018 (UTC) Tauron was pushed around fairly easily, which makes me think Big Nipper will go with the claws. I don't trust Tauron to get a killing blow on Big Nipper like Matilda (heavier, more powerful spinner) or Gabriel 2 (entanglement devices only victory in Series 10), so Big Nipper can control the fight and win the Judges' Decision on aggression and control. Raz3r(talk) 09:55, February 25, 2018 (UTC) Considering that Big Nipper beat Aftershock with the disc, I am fairly certain it can do the same against Tauron. If not, the claws will probably be useful in controlling Tauron's movements for a dominant victory. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 10:22, February 25, 2018 (UTC) This'll be close, but Nipper will edge it in the end. CaliforniaKingsnake (talk) 15:29, February 25, 2018 (UTC) Should be a comfy win for Big Nipper over a robot with more body to attack, and it has the better weapon for dealing with this sort of opponent too. Hogwild94 (talk) 19:11, February 25, 2018 (UTC)	Votes for Tauron Tauron did already fight Big Nipper in round one, and since pulled off a shock controlled win over Cathadh, so by now Tauron is capable of getting to the side of Big Nipper to give it a good smack. TOAST 14:38, February 25, 2018 (UTC) Tauron never broke down, wheras Big Nipper did. It's not destined to inherit the 259 title, it was cheated in round 1 and went the full distance in round 2. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 20:18, February 25, 2018 (UTC) Big Nipper didn't break down. It got something jammed in its wheel, this was already explained to you. And Tauron was not "cheated", it was immobilised before Iron Awe. It was just pure misfortune. CrashBash (talk) 20:21, February 25, 2018 (UTC) As I have explained a number of times now, you can call it misfortune but I call enforcement of that rule Tauron being cheated. Wheel jammed and breakdown are pretty much the same thing if you ask me. Tauron's blade is powerful enough to cause a jam if it hits right. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 20:28, February 25, 2018 (UTC)
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