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Welcome back to Robot Wars: The Sixth Wars. Last year, we saw Chaos 2, the Series 3 and 4 champion, be finally dethroned in the Semi-Finals, by the eventual runners-up Bigger Brother. Despite this setback, you can bet that Chaos 2 and its team will be looking to win the UK championship for the third time. Will it be able to? The only way to find out is if we LET THE WARS BEGIN!

Round 1[edit source]

Chaos 2 (5) vs ICU vs Mute vs Infernal Contraption[edit source]

Chaos 2
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Votes
  1. Mute and Infernal Contraption. Now here is where business will pick up in this tournament! Firstly, ICU will be the first to go out, on the basis that I believe that it will be flipped quite early on. However, in a twist that may shock some, I have decided that the two-time champion will also leave too. There are two main reasons for this vote; the first part is Mute, who I would argue could easily get underneath Chaos 2's ground clearance at the sides and flip it over several times, wasting the champion's Co2 supply. If this was a one-on-one battle, Mute would get my vote, no objection. However, although I accept that Infernal Contraption is not in the same league as the two flippers, I think it will go through on the factor that its design is too slippery for either of the two flippers to fully exploit. Not to mention, if Infernal Contraption's drum could cause serious chassis damage to the Series 7 version of Bulldog Breed, I dread to think of the damage sustained to Chaos 2 here. Will the former two-time champions be exiting early? I think so. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 07:56, December 15, 2017 (UTC)
  2. Chaos 2 and Mute - A tough call here, but I feel that ICU is a bit too vulnerable and probably won't last as long as it needs to. As for Infernal, well, it could cause some damage, but that really depends who it focuses on. If it goes for Mute, the less likely to go through in their eyes, it'll just get flicked away regardless because that flipper acts as a shield. Chaos 2 knows how to pick its foes. Infernal probably doesn't. CrashBash (talk) 08:09, December 15, 2017 (UTC)
  3. Chaos 2 and Mute. Voting for Infernal Contraption is ludicrous. It was weak against everything, and Mute's front hinged flipper is perfect to survive a hit for the one time only when the weapon is pointing in the correct direction. Chaos 2 will OotA ICU in a heartbeat like it did to Iron-Awe, then it's a case of watch IC be bullied by two very good flippers, and we have seen it thoroughly beaten by Bulldog Breed before. Jimlaad43(talk) 08:40, December 15, 2017 (UTC)
  4. Chaos 2 and Mute I'm not sure I'd even vote for Mute to beat Chaos 2 1 on 1, given how much trouble Mute has self-righting and that Chaos 2 never showed the same unreliability with its drive that cost Judge Shred 3 and Behemoth. That's redundant as this has a pretty indisputable 1 and 2, and 3 and 5. I see the logic for Infernal Contraption to beat Chaos 2, but I don't buy it as the outcome. Infernal Contraption's design far too often ends up with it facing the wrong way, and Chaos 2 can throw it around at its pleasure. I think Mute will pick on Infernal Contraption more than Chaos 2 (no one goes after the big threat in the opening melee of the main competition, ever) and the fact that ICU is going out early on means Infernal Contraption would have to be S3 to turn this around. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 11:01, December 15, 2017 (UTC)
  5. Mute and Infernal Contraption. I've already cheesed off many users by having Infernal Contraption beat Dominator II in a Ragnabot earlier this year, let's be more irritating by having it also beat Chaos 2! Now I recognise that this is far from the most powerful drisc spinner, which loses a lot of energy in recoil, but you have to consider what Chaos 2 is here. It's armoured in polycarbonate which split open just by the robot ramming itself into the wall, and its wheels are so close to the sides that even a single strong impact could limit Chaos 2's movement. What did that previously? Tornado, a drisc spinner. So you can say that Chaos 2 attempts to get rid of the slippery drum by throwing it out of the arena, something Bulldog Breed couldn't do. It's certainly possible, but not without expending buckets of CO2, and we all know what happens when Chaos 2 started to run out of gas. Luckily enough, there's Mute to turn it over! Similarly, while Chaos 2 could potentially target Mute and get them out of the arena, that means Chaos 2 is exposing its weakest area, the back end, to Infernal Contraption and even ICU - which also requires gas to defeat. Chaos 2 loses this for me not on the basis of being an inferior robot, but as the one with the least staying power. TOAST 11:26, December 15, 2017 (UTC)
  6. Mute and Infernal Contraption - I know I should feel really bad that I voted against Chaos 2 and for IC but the problem is, IC is invertible and as we've seen in Series 7 and 8 it can survive against flippers, albeit with somewhat poor control, and was difficult to OOtA. Chaos 2 suffers from it's own weaponry, a flipper which uses CO2. ICU, as much as I love this machine, is dead from the get go by ether flipper. So yeah Mute to dominate with IC surviving.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 12:01, December 15, 2017 (UTC)
    Those two battles where it "survived against flippers", if IIRC, they lost both battles by being passive and doing nothing. Oh, and driving into the pit. A lot of these votes for IC are expecting a 5% chance collision that destroys Chaos 2, and ignoring the 95% chance it just flips it around because the weapon isn't pointing at it. Plus Mute keeps being discounted, as it is the perfect robot to defeat IC. These votes are getting to Flat Earther levels of ignoring evidence levels... Jimlaad43(talk) 12:45, December 15, 2017 (UTC)
    I could be sympathetic about how well one of your least favourite robots always seems to do, but then I remember that you have Shredder on your least-favourite robots list, so you deserve it :) TOAST 12:58, December 15, 2017 (UTC)
    The difference is that sometimes Shredder's arguments have some sense, or evidence to back it up. Here, we have nothing, just hearsay, guessing and voting for the sake of voting out someone good. Jimlaad43(talk) 13:01, December 15, 2017 (UTC)
    If I were to add a bit more, Chaos 2 is one of the biggest threats to Mute so I would predict them to dart towards the former 2 time champion and try and get rid of the bigger threat first. Also I understand why you may hate IC but this is simply a matter of a different point of view, you have yours I have mine, and in my POV for this battle I can see them surviving longer than Chaos 2. Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 13:11, December 15, 2017 (UTC)
    Jim, you keep saying "Infernal Contraption is a robot that drives into the pit all of the time!" or something like that, but when exactly is once in six televised battles "all the time"? You're over-exaggerating by a wide margin...and no, I don't count what happened with 259, because it wasn't going to win anyway and that was clearly either deliberate or beyond their control. That'd be like me saying Chaos 2 "keeps" driving into the pit when it only did it twice...once on purpose, once by accident. CrashBash (talk) 13:25, December 15, 2017 (UTC)
  7. Chaos 2 and Mute. ICU is going to get chucked out of the arena, that's for certain. While I can see Infernal Contraption's drum dealing a considerable amount of damage to Chaos 2's armour, chassis and flipper cover - let's not forget what it did to Bulldog Breed in Series 7 - the fact that it tended to swing its drum away from opponents whenever it needed to change direction is going to amplify its control issues against the two flippers. I can imagine Chaos 2 and Mute teaming up on Infernal Contraption and chucking it around the arena - if not out of it - and Infernal Contraption itself flailing around as it struggles to land a critical hit on either of its remaining opponents. This might be enough for Infernal Contraption to lose out on aggression and control if it doesn't deal enough damage to Chaos 2 before the ensuing Judges' decision. VulcansHowl 13:47, December 15, 2017 (UTC)
  8. Chaos 2 and Mute. Infernal Contraption is actually more likely to stay out of the way of the experienced Chaos 2, and perhaps focus on the fellow newcomers instead. Why would you focus on a two-time champion when you have two other machines who have no pedigree? For the sake of progressing, ICU, Mute and Infernal Contraption will probably try to attack each other, rather than Chaos 2, and Mute will do well in that mini-melee. ICU does have the side srimechs, so it might last a bit longer than some people are suggesting, but it will fall eventually to one of the flippers. Both Mute and Chaos 2 can then dominate Infernal Contraption's ground clearance. Yes, IC might cause some damage to Chaos 2, but not nearly enough to knock it out. Henceforth, Mute and Chaos 2 will both progress as the criteria for aggression and control will outweigh IC's contributions. Raz3r(talk) 16:01, December 15, 2017 (UTC)
  9. Chaos 2 and Mute. Two things to mention here: 1. Mute won't trouble Chaos 2. Just because Chaos 2 has side ground clearance doesn't mean you can get underneath it. You either need a wide-enough front to push Chaos 2 across the arena, or a narrow flipper lip ala Bigger Brother to slip in the gap and deftly flick Chaos 2 over. Mute has the worst of a potential situation to exploit this. It has a steep front which is medium size in terms of width. So basically, it's not going to be able to get in a deft flick before Chaos 2 gets away ala Bigger Brother, and its front also isn't the right shape to push or thrust Chaos 2 over; 2. Mute will no doubt target Infernal Contraption so it can rack up points. I doubt it'll even get many clean flips on that either, but it'll bully it around. Chaos 2 and Mute quite comfortably for me. Nweston8 (talk) 16:52, December 15, 2017 (UTC)
  10. Mute and Chaos 2 ICU is OOTA for sure, and Infernal Contraption could very well follow. CaliforniaKingsnake (talk) 18:52, December 15, 2017 (UTC)
  11. Chaos 2 and Mute. I.C.U. is obviously getting flipped out, while Infernal Contraption won't cause enough damage to outweigh aggression. Hogwild94 (talk) 19:02, December 15, 2017 (UTC)
  12. Mute and Infernal Contraption: I hate to see ICU go out but I don't see them standing a chance as they'll probably get flipped OoTA while Mute and IC will gang up and take the seeds out. BizarroKing (talk) 22:24, December 15, 2017 (UTC)
  13. Chaos 2 and Mute: It really is amazing how many people give IC such high praise in these tournaments. I'm sorry, it's far from the worst machine that has fought in RW, but IC was not fast, not damaging, vulnerable to all kinds of flippers (especially something like Mute), I fail to remember too many times where both wheels actually drove the robot fully forwards. I imagine it is getting the nod from some because Chaos 2 is made mostly of aluminium and polycarbonate, so what? IC won't be able to cause terminal damage, and that's assuming it even gets some good hits in, which it won't due to how well Chaos 2 is driven. ICU to be turned over, and IC to be flipped out or lose on points because it's so easily flippable. Datovidny (talk) 11:10, December 16, 2017 (UTC)
    Well, I personally felt that Infernal Contraption's design, not its competitiveness, would see it through. This is down to how Mute would probably assist in flipping Chaos 2 a couple of times, whilst the slippery nature of Infernal Contraption would make it difficult for Chaos 2 to score decent points whilst still surviving the glancing blows from the drum and Mute's flipper. Still, round two looks nice regardless. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 17:44, December 16, 2017 (UTC)
  14. Chaos 2 and Mute: Chaos 2 will go for Infernal Contraption, tossing it around the arena and possibly out, whilst Mute will flip Infernal Contraption about. Drop Zone mk2 (talk) 11:35, December 16, 2017 (UTC)
    I don't think you meant to say Infernal Contraption twice.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 11:50, December 16, 2017 (UTC)
  15. Chaos 2 & Mute: Both flippers will do a double team on both Infernal Contraption & ICU & will properly save their energy for potentially each other. Lewis05 (talk) 12:30, December 16, 2017 (UTC)
ICU
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Mute
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Infernal Contraption
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Results Qualified: Chaos 2 and Mute Score: 11-0-15-4

Bulldog Breed vs Tridentate vs 13 Black vs Chip[edit source]

Bulldog Breed
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Votes
  1. Bulldog Breed and Chip. Tridentate only managed to get into Audited Series 6 because a certain someone cast a minus vote in its favour. Still, although it will likely be torn apart by the two spinners, Colossus would not have done much better. Anyhow, I think I will go for a second surprise in one heat and eliminate the only robot that reached the semi-finals in the real-life series, 13 Black. Sure, I am aware that Bulldog Breed did not tank blows against Hypno-Disc particularly well this series, and that Chip is not the most reliable robot overall, but I feel that 13 Black has two unfortunate flaws that may cause it to be knocked out. Firstly, I actually do not think that 13 Black's discs really are that powerful; I mean, Double Trouble and Stinger lasted the entire duration against it, even though the latter broke down against S3 (and technically Fluffy for a brief period), and considering how tough Bulldog Breed is, I doubt it could cause a knockout. Then, there is the infamous weakness of 13 Black: "Still no srimech!" Yeah sure, Hypno-Disc did not get flipped over once in that battle, but it came dangerously close to, plus I actually think 13 Black is easier to flip. Whilst Chip is neither reliable nor as powerful as Hypno-Disc, it should survive, not only because of it being invertible, but also for only having one disc, meaning Bulldog Breed is more likely to attack (and successfully) flip the robot with two discs. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 07:56, December 15, 2017 (UTC)
  2. Bulldog Breed and 13 Black. Purely on the basis they're more likely to survive. CrashBash (talk) 08:11, December 15, 2017 (UTC)
  3. Bulldog Breed and 13 Black. Having been thumped by Hypno-Disc, BB will want to avoid 13 Black like the plague. Tridentate will be annihilated by everyone, and Chip is just a flippable shape. If 13 Black does the spin on the spot thing, nobody in this battle will come out on top if they try to stop them. Jimlaad43(talk) 08:44, December 15, 2017 (UTC)
  4. Bulldog Breed and Chip. Quick, someone tell the Out of the Arena Discord! TaleOfTheToaster has voted out 13Black in the very first round! It's true though, the argument that Bulldog Breed 'wouldn't target the scary spinner after its clash with Hypno-Disc' is invalid due to two things. One, 13Black has demonstrated no evidence of being a destructive robot yet. Secondly, Chip's spinner is statistically stronger in every way, and the robot is invertible, meaning Bulldog Breed would have to throw it out of the arena or immobilise it to win, while 13Black just requires the single flip. Read TG's blog on Bulldog Breed's conservativism (Rapid sequel blog when) to see why this would happen. Bulldog Breed to flip 13Black, while Chip gets the credit for ripping up Tridentate in a very quick battle. TOAST 11:29, December 15, 2017 (UTC)
    Chompalot, Double Trouble and Chaos 2 would like to disagree with 13 Black being non-damaging. Jimlaad43(talk) 12:47, December 15, 2017 (UTC)
    Can I just go about reminding people that 13 Black CAN technically run inverted and that was more than enough for the judges to consider it as mobile (case in point, the losers melee, where Dantomkia needed to take it to the judges in order to win). So, the whole "one flip" thing is kinda invalid. CrashBash (talk) 13:26, December 15, 2017 (UTC)
    Jimlaad you've misread. I said that 13Black had not proven itself as destructive yet. This is only the first round of Series 6. TOAST 14:28, December 15, 2017 (UTC)
  5. Bulldog Breed and Chip - 13 Black is weird, it doesn't look like the spinners are damaging but they much be...though Chip is clearly more damaging and more lower down to damage 13 Black. Bulldog Breed on the other hand will dominate the competition here. Poor Tridentate has no hope in Hell.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 12:06, December 15, 2017 (UTC)
  6. Bulldog Breed and Chip. Hmm, I'd be surprised if Bulldog Breed engaged with either spinner to begin with. I imagine it would prefer to focus on flipping Tridentate around. Chip's weaponry isn't as potent as 13 Black's, but then it has the advantage of being invertible. While 13 Black does show mobility upside down, it won't be scoring any points with it. As the fight goes on though, I don't think Tridentate will go the distance, so Bulldog Breed will need to focus on one of the others. Bulldog Breed is a tough old robot, and will survive most of the hits Chip or 13 Black can throw at it; if it gets a chance against 13 Black, it will take it for sure. Toughest melee to decide so far, but I can't trust 13 Black not to be flipped over. Raz3r(talk) 16:01, December 15, 2017 (UTC)
  7. Bulldog Breed and Chip. I noticed while rewatching its Losers Melee that 13 Black was particularly evasive against Dantomkia and showed lapses of control even when it was dealing good hits on the latter and Wild Thing. Add to the possibility of Bulldog Breed getting underneath it from the sides, and there is a decent chance of 13 Black suffering as it is constantly being pushed and thrown around the arena by the Bulldog. Chip might squeak through this if it lands some sizeable hits on each of its opponents - therefore earning damage points - and avoids getting KO'd by 13 Black. Poor Tridentate... VulcansHowl 16:12, December 15, 2017 (UTC)
  8. 13 Black and Chip. Eh, why not. I think 13 Black is slippery enough to avoid an early flip, and it can either spin around to get up to very high spinning speed or come in with an attack anyway. This being on a Bulldog Breed machine which has its motors right at the front of the machine, which Hypno-Disc shattered in back-to-back fights with only glancing hits. 13 Black at high enough speed can easily do the same, and Chip's invertibility will help it through too. Nweston8 (talk) 16:55, December 15, 2017 (UTC)
  9. Bulldog Breed and Chip. While Chip will end up broken by the end of the this, Bulldog is well-controlled to boss 13 Black and Tridentate around. CaliforniaKingsnake (talk) 18:52, December 15, 2017 (UTC)
  10. Bulldog Breed and 13 Black. 13 Black should cause enough damage to Chip to knock it out before it gets flipped, while Tridentate will be obvious fodder for all opponents. Hogwild94 (talk) 19:05, December 15, 2017 (UTC)
  11. Bulldog Breed and Chip: 13 Black is very potent when its spinning, but far too often we see its discs slow to a crawl upon impacts, before taking a while to spin up to full speed again. Bulldog Breed is the sort of robot to overturn 13 Black easily enough. Sure 13 Black will still be mobile, but it won't be scoring any points while Chip runs around the arena slashing at Tridentate. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 20:35, December 15, 2017 (UTC)
  12. Bulldog Breed and 13 Black: Tridentate is easily out here. And while I like Chip and all I think 13 Black has the better weaponry in my eyes or at the very least it'll be harder for Chip to damage while Bulldog will just help flip it around after eliminating Tridentate. BizarroKing (talk) 22:21, December 15, 2017 (UTC)
  13. Bulldog Breed and Chip: As mad as it sounds, I think it may be unlucky for some. It would depend how lenient the producers would be to it still be moving when overturned. Chip suffered an unfortunate blow against Thor, assuming that sort of immobilisation doesn't occur from a flip, Chip will still be going if 13 Black is overturned. In fact, despite the ground clearance, I'd almost say the weight distribution and centre of gravity makes 13 Black easier to flip than Chip, especially against a robust wedge like Bulldog Breed. This is the problem with judging the melees though, it all really depends on who goes for who first. Datovidny (talk) 11:15, December 16, 2017 (UTC)
  14. Bulldog Breed and 13 Black: Although 13 Black is vulnerable to flippers, remember it does have the spinning on the spot technique, which could ward off Bulldog Breed. Bulldog Breed is more likely to go for the easier target of Chip, whilst 13 Black smashes Tridentate. Drop Zone mk2 (talk) 11:35, December 16, 2017 (UTC)
  15. 13 Black & Bulldog Breed: Tridente is cannon fodder to a disc and Chip’s disc didn’t cut the mustard when it competed in the new blood contest. Lewis05 (talk) 12:30, December 16, 2017 (UTC)
  16. Bulldog Breed & 13 Black. Tridentate is the easy fodder here, and Chip's boxy shape leaves it vulnerable to both 13 Black's discs and Bulldog Breed's flipper. Badnik96 (talk) 19:43, December 16, 2017 (UTC)
Tridentate
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13 Black
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Chip
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Results Qualified: Bulldog Breed and Chip Score: 15-0-8-9

Round 2[edit source]

Chaos 2 (5) vs Bulldog Breed[edit source]

Chaos 2 Bulldog Breed
Chaos2.gif
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Votes for Chaos 2
  1. I'd give Chaos 2 the nod here. not that it looks like it's going to matter at this stage. Bulldog Breed looked impressive in Extreme, but I'm wondering if it was actually faced with a robot as well-driven, fast, or as slippery as Chaos 2. Similar in design and all depends who can get their wedge underneath to gain the initial upper-hand, and as I said in the previous round, George was still one of the best drivers in this series. Chaos 2 was always going to struggle in anything but a gentle heat, but this heat of death hasn't done it any favours, and 24 seeds might've spared it this heavyweight Round 2 draw at least. Datovidny (talk) 16:05, December 17, 2017 (UTC)
  2. Seriously? Astonished this is such a walkover in that direction. Sure Chaos 2 isn't what it once was, but it should honestly have enough firepower to win this one. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:33, December 17, 2017 (UTC)
  3. Two deciding factors for my vote: 1. Bulldog Breed was never driven that precisely. 2. Bulldog Breed's front is not very low. Nweston8 (talk) 19:57, December 17, 2017 (UTC)
  4. I'm happy that Bulldog Breed is winning and I don't intend to change anybody's mind, but my head says Chaos 2. I feel its wedge is much more trustworthy at this stage, and the main argument against Chaos 2 is its age - i.e., its poor self-righting and gas capacity. The argument for Bulldog Breed is that its flipper was so conservative that it conserved gas, but I see that as the problem. It WILL need to self-right and use that gas, so it might not have as much control as it wants. The flipper is also so far forward without a particularly high arc that I feel Bulldog Breed would lose the ability to self-right around the same time Chaos 2 would, so if in doubt, back the double-champion. TOAST 21:32, December 17, 2017 (UTC)
  5. Honestly, I agree. Bulldog Breed was never particularly well-driven, and I'm fairly sure that in a war of wedges Chaos 2 wins out. Plus Chaos 2 has more power in the flipper, and Bulldog Breed wasn't terribly reliable either: who's to say that a big flip won't just kill it? A glancing blow from Hypno-Disc did it in, could a monster throw from Chaos 2 do the same? Combatwombat555 (talk) 23:50, December 18, 2017 (UTC)
Votes for Bulldog Breed
  1. Sadly, this is the stage where I think the two-time champion is going out at. In my opinion, Bulldog Breed is one of the worst flippers that Chaos 2 could possibly face in Series 6. Not only is it quick, not only is its flipper powerful, but perhaps most importantly for the purposes of this battle, Bulldog Breed is one of the best flippers in conserving its CO2 supply. I use its Series 6 melee as an example, noting how it dominated using very few flips. Revenge of Trouble & Strife? One flip and it is dead. Spin Doctor? One flip and it is dead (technically two, but blame Sir Killalot on that). Kat 3? One flip and it is dead. All Bulldog Breed needed was four flips to beat three opponents. Now, obviously Chaos 2 will require more flips to eliminate, since it has a srimech, but it should be noted that George Francis tends to flip his opponents several times, usually to gain points. This was great in Series 4, but not so much in Series 6, whereby once Bulldog Breed self-rights, Chaos 2 will be on the backfoot in the battle to conserve the most CO2. Eventually, seeing as Bulldog Breed is low enough to get underneath Chaos 2 several times, plus the fact that Chaos 2 overflips sometimes, as well as taking several flips to self-right, means to me that although Bulldog Breed will struggle at the start, it will be the last robot standing later on. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 09:28, December 17, 2017 (UTC)
  2. Eh, I'm glad to see Chaos 2 here (even if I would have eliminated it) Though as SpaceManic said, Bulldog Breed improved, Chaos 2 stayed rather consistent.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 10:27, December 17, 2017 (UTC)
  3. Can't help but agree with SpaceManiac here. Bulldog Breed demonstrated by this point that it was able to conserve its CO2 supply more efficiently than the more flamboyant Chaos 2, which might allow the Bulldog to repeat Bigger Brother's victory in a more emphatic way. It's not to say that Chaos 2 will go down without a fight, but considering how much gas it vented while trying to self-right by this stage, there is no guarantee it will manage to hold out to the end against a more modern, more powerful and more conservative flipper with a very effective wedge. VulcansHowl 10:29, December 17, 2017 (UTC)
  4. End of the road for Chaos 2. The Bulldog Breed of Series 6 is similar to Extreme 2; it just doesn't like facing Hypno-Disc. The 18 flips it can manage are likely to outlast the flips of Chaos 2, especially when, as already pointed out, Bulldog Breed is much more conservative in its approach. I'd say Chaos 2 would start the stronger, but Bulldog Breed will have the stamina, and will eventually turn the fight on its head to claim a famous victory. Raz3r(talk) 11:05, December 17, 2017 (UTC)
  5. Chaos 2 struggled against more powerful flippers. BB will win this one. Jimlaad43(talk) 11:14, December 17, 2017 (UTC)
  6. I could say something, but it's all been said. Chaos 2 has just aged too poorly by now. CrashBash (talk) 12:07, December 17, 2017 (UTC)
  7. Chaos 2's too old, Bulldog is consistent with flipping power. CaliforniaKingsnake (talk) 16:44, December 17, 2017 (UTC)
  8. Chaos 2 will show it's age here, at least BB has updated tech compared to the former champs. BizarroKing (talk) 22:30, December 18, 2017 (UTC)
  9. BB will toss Chaos 2 around and show the champ just how old it is. Sam (BAZINGA) 00:52, December 19, 2017 (UTC)
Winner: Bulldog Breed (9-5)

Mute vs Chip[edit source]

Mute Chip
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Chip Extreme II.png
Votes for Mute
  1. Well, with the loss of 13 Black, we are going to see at least one new robot in the semi-finals when compared with the real-life series. Anyhow, this should be an easy victory for Mute in my opinion. Indeed, Chip may have a decent disc, but when one notes that Mute's flipper acts as a shield for the robot, the damage output from the disc is likely to be limited. But what really makes me vote for Mute is Chip's high ground clearance, which combined with its boxy shape, should be easy for Mute to throw across the arena. Seeing as Chip's disc suffered technical problems that caused it to pretty much be unusable for its upcoming battle with Thor, surely the flips from Mute will cause similar damage? Eventually, considering Chip's reliability was not the greatest either, Mute should win by knockout. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 09:28, December 17, 2017 (UTC)
  2. I must say in some ways I've very glad that Chaos 2 got through even though I didn't vote for t :P Anyways Mute should win this with incredible ease.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 10:21, December 17, 2017 (UTC)
  3. Mute's real-life experience with Mr Nasty shows that it can hold its own against invertible box-shaped machines that aren't Tornado or Storm 2 (of course, it did give Storm 2 a good challenge in the New Blood). I can't see it being damaged too much by Chip's disc, and its flips will no doubt count in its favour if both robots survive to a Judges' decision. There is also, of course, the possibility of Mute knocking something loose from inside Chip during one of its flips, KO'ing it a la Thor. VulcansHowl 10:29, December 17, 2017 (UTC)
  4. Mute is too tough to be damaged by Chip's disc, and it can easily slide under the disc or the sides due to that high ground clearance. Mute is also faster and more reliable, and while I don't think its flipper is as strong as some people think, it should still be aggressive enough to take the win comfortably. Raz3r(talk) 11:05, December 17, 2017 (UTC)
  5. 13 Black would have at least had a working flywheel at this point... Jimlaad43(talk) 11:15, December 17, 2017 (UTC)
  6. Sooo, would the elimination of 13 Black count as our first major surprise of the series? Chip was pretty much doomed whoever it fought. CrashBash (talk) 12:07, December 17, 2017 (UTC)
  7. 13 Black goes out in the first round to Chip. The benchmark has been set for biggest upset of the series. Meanwhile, Mute is designed to fight a robot like Chip all day long, win via judges. Datovidny (talk) 16:07, December 17, 2017 (UTC)
  8. Chip sans disc (since I am still going with the theory that in the group battle Chip's disc breaks a la New Blood) = easily flipped around by Mute. Maybe more Bash v Ref? CaliforniaKingsnake (talk) 16:44, December 17, 2017 (UTC)
  9. No discussion here. Heat final should be good though. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:33, December 17, 2017 (UTC)
  10. Mute will win but it still won't complete a proper flip, knowing it. Nweston8 (talk) 19:58, December 17, 2017 (UTC)
  11. If Mute can get Chip onto it's side then it's all over. BizarroKing (talk) 22:30, December 18, 2017 (UTC)
Votes for Chip
  1. I'm going to be the world's worst Mute fan and vote for Chip to cause damage to Mute's flipper much like Disc-O-Inferno did to Spirit of Knightmare, and get some passing gashes on the side. Chip is staying in the arena and it won't be pitted, so the damage will carry the most weight here. This vote never existed. TOAST 21:32, December 17, 2017 (UTC)
Winner: Mute (11-1)

Special Event - UK vs Germany[edit source]

Hypno-Disc (UK) vs Son of Armageddon (Germany)[edit source]

Hypno-Disc Son of Armageddon
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Votes for Hypno-Disc
  1. I have chosen Hypno-Disc to represent England, partly because it was going to represent the UK in the War of Independence, but mostly because it needs to redeem itself after that defeat to Nasty Warrior! Anyhow, I must admit, I was impressed that Son of Armageddon was still going, despite taking that much punishment from Black Hole. However, whilst its flipper is OK, it is nowhere near the quality needed to flip and dominate Hypno-Disc in order to cause a knockout. Henceforth, whist I expect Son of Armageddon to stand up to some of the attacks from Hypno-Disc, the English robot will find this easy enough. Still, despite slightly redeeming itself in my opinion, Hypno-Disc still needs to win this tournament to ensure that its lost to Nasty Warrior is overshadowed. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 10:25, December 19, 2017 (UTC)
  2. Hypno is better placed to take out SoA than Black Hole was, as it has a horizontal weapon. The flipper is likely to be ripped off easily, and from them on it's a case of hitting a box. Jimlaad43(talk) 10:27, December 19, 2017 (UTC)
  3. Hypno-Disc could probably take off a side panel, maybe damage the flipper itself. CrashBash (talk) 10:41, December 19, 2017 (UTC)
  4. Yep...Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 11:02, December 19, 2017 (UTC)
  5. Easy. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:28, December 19, 2017 (UTC)
  6. SoA will get torn apart by the disc here. BizarroKing (talk) 21:52, December 19, 2017 (UTC)
  7. There's no excuse for Hypno-Disc to lose this one. No excuse. VulcansHowl 22:39, December 19, 2017 (UTC)
  8. Son of Armageddon has the wrong shape of flipper and dodgy armour, but credit where it's due, it was incredibly durable. No chance is the logical opinion, but then who gave Bigger Brother a chance? Raz3r(talk) 01:33, December 20, 2017 (UTC)
  9. Madlooney's vote is still a better one than Toast's of Infernal Contraption beating Dominator 2. Nweston8 (talk) 04:12, December 20, 2017 (UTC)
  10. However Nick, I have prepared a persuasive follow-up argument: your mum TOAST 18:26, December 20, 2017 (UTC)
    At least my Mum wouldn't vote for Infernal Contraption to beat Dominator 2. Nweston8 (talk) 04:36, December 21, 2017 (UTC)
Votes for Son of Armageddon
  1. For lols, I'm backing SoA to pit Hypno-Disc after taking a ton of damage. Sam (BAZINGA) 22:56, December 19, 2017 (UTC)
Winner: Hypno-Disc (10-1)

Special Event - Sumo Basho[edit source]

King B Powerworks challenges Shunt![edit source]

King B Powerworks
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How Long Will They Last?
  1. 22.54s. Based on the information from its article, which suggested that the Series 5 version was equipped with interchangeable weapons for Series 6, I am going to assume that the Series 6 version is quite similar. If I am incorrect, change the image to the Series 7 version with evidence. Anyhow, King B Powerworks should do well here, in spite of the loss of weight, since it is quick and agile, attributes needed when facing Shunt. Whilst I eventually see Shunt eventually pushing off the challenger when it gets a good shove on the side or front of King B Powerworks, it will still take a long time to achieve. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 10:25, December 19, 2017 (UTC)
  2. 19.27s. King B will run around Shunt, but it won't last forever, as either Shunt will get the drive, or King B will drive off. Jimlaad43(talk) 10:28, December 19, 2017 (UTC)
  3. 21.23s. King B is fast and good at dodging but then again it's quite easy to push as well.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 11:05, December 19, 2017 (UTC)
  4. 17.56s. Similar to S.M.I.D.S.Y. in S4 sumo. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:29, December 19, 2017 (UTC)
  5. 21.13 seconds sounds about right to me. King B has decent shoving power even if it is a bit smaller. BizarroKing (talk) 21:53, December 19, 2017 (UTC)
  6. 18.55 seconds. King B at least has some good agility and enough push to last longer than the previous competitors we've had so far. Raz3r(talk) 01:33, December 20, 2017 (UTC)
  7. 16s. Nippy and boxy enough to last a good amount of time, King B will put in a good effort here. However, it was never the most well driven machine, and will probably make a mistake near the edge of the ring after a solid opening period. Nweston8 (talk) 04:13, December 20, 2017 (UTC)
  8. 12. It's fast, well-controlled, but not in a way that gives it an edge over the average Series 4 scoreline. TOAST 18:26, December 20, 2017 (UTC)
Time: 18.54s

Heat Final[edit source]

Bulldog Breed vs Mute[edit source]

Bulldog Breed Mute
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Votes for Bulldog Breed
  1. Hmm, a difficult one this is. But is it just me, or does Mute have very few flips in this incarnation? I use the Roobarb fight as an example, noting that despite dominating at the start, once Mute was forced to self-right a couple of times, it was forced to rely on pushing for the remainder of the battle. Also, Bulldog Breed is generally lower to the ground than Roobarb was, so I expect it to flip Mute a couple of times, wasting the latter's supply. Noting how Bulldog Breed generally conserves its supply to when it really needs to, I see a knockout victory for the dog, finally achieving a semi-final. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 10:25, December 19, 2017 (UTC)
  2. Mute vs Judge Shred 3 was close, and it went to Mute because the Judge became immobilised. Bulldog Breed is better than that Judge Shred iteration, and isn't going to break down as readily. Jimlaad43(talk) 10:29, December 19, 2017 (UTC)
  3. Bulldog Breed's ground clearance is a little suspect, but I doubt it'll let Mute get under it. Although Mute technically has a good history with rear-hinged flippers, it's never been a convincing one - one was won on a breakdown, one was due to a damaged drive and the other was only after its own flipper broke. Bulldog Breed should take this one. CrashBash (talk) 10:39, December 19, 2017 (UTC)
  4. Tough indeed. But Mute is like a flea when it's toppled and too much power is it hindrance, and a big one at that! Bulldog Breed ground clearance is very low and has a very powerful flipper so yeah I agree with the majority (as of this time) here.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 11:01, December 19, 2017 (UTC)
  5. I can't see Mute winning any control or aggression points through trying to self-right and somersaulting the entire time. Bulldog Breed should be more reliable than Judge Shred 3, and has the conservative approach required to consistently throw Mute onto its back and force it to perform gymnastics for the whole duration. Whether or not Mute has enough CO2 to survive to a Judges' decision remains to be seen, but I don't think its attacks with the rear flipper will be enough to overhaul the points scored by Bulldog Breed's bigger flips. VulcansHowl 11:06, December 19, 2017 (UTC)
  6. Bulldog Breed is strong enough to get through this. CaliforniaKingsnake (talk) 18:01, December 19, 2017 (UTC)
  7. If Bulldog Breed can somehow beat the king of the flippers, then it should easily be able to handle Mute too. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:30, December 19, 2017 (UTC)
  8. Glad to see 2 robots that didn't get a proper chance in series 6, but BB definitely has this one over Mute. BizarroKing (talk) 21:54, December 19, 2017 (UTC)
  9. Yeah, Mute is doomed. Sam (BAZINGA) 22:44, December 19, 2017 (UTC)
  10. Routine win for the Bulldog. More gas, more reliable srimech, more conservative, more experience. Raz3r(talk) 01:33, December 20, 2017 (UTC)
  11. A comfortable end to this Heat for the bulldog. Nweston8 (talk) 04:14, December 20, 2017 (UTC)
  12. I would love a way to vote Mute into the series semi-finals but it was always going to require a huge element of luck, this will do. TOAST 18:26, December 20, 2017 (UTC)
  13. Bulldog Breed has the experience and the control to take this one. Badnik96 (talk) 19:01, December 20, 2017 (UTC)
Votes for Mute
Winner: Bulldog Breed (13-0)
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