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Welcome back to Robot Wars: The Sixth Wars. If you missed the first Semi-Final, then you were unfortunate that you were unable to witness some classic battles and shocks throughout! Indeed, Firestorm 4, the third seed, defeated Stinger in a very close battle, before Stinger bounced back in the Losers' melee. It then dethroned the Series 5 champion Razer to become our first Grand Finalist! Meanwhile, Firestorm 4 became the second Grand Finalist by achieving an impressive out of the arena flip against S3. In this Semi-Final, we have the ever destructive Hypno-Disc, the sixth seed Dominator 2, and Terrorhurtz, who upset the second seed Bigger Brother! Boosted by the inclusion of Behemoth, as well as first-time Semi-Finalists Dantomkia and Supernova, this Semi-Final will surely be as competitive as the first. Who will the final two Grand Finalists be? The only way to find out is to LET THE WARS BEGIN!

Round 1[edit source]

Dominator 2 (6) vs Terrorhurtz[edit source]

Dominator 2 Terrorhurtz
Silver dominator 2.gif
Votes for Dominator 2
  1. And we start with a classic. What we have here are two of the best axes, not only in Series 6, but also of all-time in my opinion. Only Anarchy could have probably challenged these two for the claim of being the best axe of Series 6. Anyhow, I will back the seed here, for a number of reasons. The first main reason is down to Dominator 2's design; Terrohurtz is unlikely to be able to hit the wedged double-V shaped machine, but by contrast, the height of Dominator 2's axe should enable it to accurately hit the top of its opponent. And that leads me to my second reason, as to why Dominator 2 will win by knockout. Terrorhurtz is an excellent machine, no doubt about it, especially in Series 6. However, part of the reason that it succeeded in Series 6 was that it continually faced flippers and lifters, neither of which could really trouble it. Then it faced Razer, and not only did it have little-to-no answer against the crusher, the aftermath of that battle meant that it was in a bad way against Firestorm 4. Seeing how damaging Dominator 2's axe can be, I think it can achieve the knockout blow, especially at the top of Terrorhurtz, which I find important. This is because we have seen in Series 9 no less that Terrorhurtz can be knocked out by a good axe if hit constantly. Dominator 2 should be able to achieve the same outcome against the Series 6 version of Terrorhurtz. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 11:19, January 21, 2018 (UTC)
  2. TBH, I'd always be tempted to back Dominator 2 over Terrorhurtz because it has the advantage in body-shape, armour and weapon type. A spiked axe is going to cause more damage to a domed polycarbonate robot than a bladed axe will do to an angled titanium robot. Plus, due to the sheer height on Dominator's armour, Terrorhurtz is unlikely to BFT it. CrashBash (talk) 11:35, January 21, 2018 (UTC)
  3. Yeah, Terrorhurtz’s sheer power won’t override the armour and shape deficiencies. Dominator 2 progresses. Nweston8 (talk) 11:38, January 21, 2018 (UTC)
  4. Both axes were fantastically powerful, accurate and fast acting to allow for adjustment. We've seen that Dominator can survive hard knocks, so I can't see it being Terrorhurtz. The issue is that the polycarbonate will show fantastic damage from the spike, while the only threat to Dominator is being TMHWK'ed, but I trust it to survive the attacks. Jimlaad43(talk) 12:11, January 21, 2018 (UTC)
  5. Despite this being probably the weakest Dominator 2 and the best Terrorhurtz (thus far), I must agree with Jimlaad's logic on why Dominator would beat X-Terminator. The axe is better for realigning and hitting other areas, while Terrorhurtz tends to hit the same bit over and over. Plus, there aren't any real prime areas for Dominator to hit. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:32, January 21, 2018 (UTC)
  6. As much as I want to vote for Terrorhurtz, I must agree with the crowd on this one sad to say. BizarroKing (talk) 22:14, January 21, 2018 (UTC)
  7. I'm with this side more. CaliforniaKingsnake (talk) 01:59, January 22, 2018 (UTC)
  8. This is the fourth time in 7 months that I've voted for a battle between these two, and I've gone with Dominator 2 every time. Why? Well, for the fourth time in a row I write: did you see Terrorhurtz's top armour? There practically wasn't any, and its innards will be severely exposed to Dominator 2's axe. Terrorhurtz may have the more powerful axe, but Dominator 2 should cause more damage in this fight. Terrorhurtz has been immobilised by Shunt twice before, and while Dominator 2's axe isn't as strong as that of the House Robot's, it should still be more than enough, especially with its shape as well. Raz3r(talk) 16:38, January 22, 2018 (UTC)
Votes for Terrorhurtz
  1. I may give a little defense to Terrorhurtz. for one thing, Dominator isn't accurate in it hits and mostly gets lucky hits, and considering that Terrorhurts is slightly faster in hitting things than Dominator, the axe will suffer major dents, perhaps not enough to destroy Dominator's axe but certainly huge amounts of damage. The armour too will suffer some dents which in my opinion will look more "flashy" that Dominator missing 9/10 of its hits and finally getting one.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 12:09, January 21, 2018 (UTC)
    I'm sorry, but you clearly haven't watched a Dominator 2 fight. It does not miss every axe shot, it may miss a hit, but instantly retracts the axe, readjusts and makes sure the next few hits all land on the opponent. This is why Dominator always gets underrated in these tournaments because people don't seem to realise that you don't have to land every hit to be effective. Jimlaad43(talk) 12:13, January 21, 2018 (UTC)
    Can I just add to many hits does Terrorhurtz land in comparison? It's probably an identical ratio. CrashBash (talk) 12:49, January 21, 2018 (UTC)
Winner: Dominator 2 (8-1)

Hypno-Disc (4) vs Behemoth[edit source]

Hypno-Disc Behemoth
Behemoth S6official.jpg
Votes for Hypno-Disc
  1. Umm... yeah. I am not sure, to be honest. Yes, both machines have fought before, and yes, Behemoth dominated and won by knockout. But, to encourage some discussion, I am going against the "happened" argument this time round. I do have some arguments as to why Hypno-Disc may achieve revenge here. The first one is down to to the power of its disc, which is no doubt better than the one used in the All-Stars. Not to mention, it was great at causing internal damage, just ask Bulldog Breed. The thing is, what caused Behemoth to be knocked out by Disc-O-Inferno? Its side being hit, damaging one of the motors. The counter-argument to my vote is probably going to be down to Behemoth's six-wheel drive system making it too agile for Hypno-Disc to hit the sides. Good point. But to be honest, Hypno-Disc barely had any mobility in that All-Stars battle, whilst in Series 6, it could at the very least hit Bulldog Breed in the right spots. Therefore, I am going for a vote that goes against the "happened" argument, although I understand everyone else voting the other way. Still, better than Tornado progressing, right? Well, one person is going to disagree, I am sure of it. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 11:19, January 21, 2018 (UTC)
  2. I actually think Behemoth’s upgrades will hinder it here. The extra speed and agility it has makes it more likely to dart past Hypno-Disc - therefore exposing its sides. Behemoth won the Extreme affair by being an in-at-close-quarters brick, but its philosophy is different now, and so will the result. Nweston8 (talk) 11:43, January 21, 2018 (UTC)
  3. Behemoth was immobilised by Disc-O in Series 6... Jimlaad43(talk) 12:15, January 21, 2018 (UTC)
  4. While Hypno-Disc may have devalued, they still were able to immobilize Behemoth when they fought; I feel they can still do likewise here. BizarroKing (talk) 22:14, January 21, 2018 (UTC)
    Hypno-Disc and Behemoth only fought once and Behemoth won. CrashBash (talk) 22:32, January 21, 2018 (UTC)
Votes for Behemoth
  1. Hypno-Disc only showed greater unreliability at this stage, so I will balance out the votes with a generic 'happened'. Last time the Series 6/7 version of Behemoth fought Hypno-Disc in the arena, it won unanimously, funny how times change. TOAST, FLIPPER 18:12, January 21, 2018 (UTC)
  2. Hypno-Disc wasn't really at its best in the S6 semis, so Behemoth should just be able to carve out a result of some sort here. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:34, January 21, 2018 (UTC)
  3. Eh, I find it hard to doubt the scene it. The Disc-O-Inferno claim bothers me for two reasons. First of all, Disc-O's flywheel was a lot heavier and faster than Hypno-Disc's. Secondly, Disc-O hit Behemoth during a melee when Behemoth wasn't focused. In a one-on-one, there's only one robot to focus on. CrashBash (talk) 22:32, January 21, 2018 (UTC)
  4. At this stage in the real-life Series 6, the gearboxes in Hypno-Disc's disc meshed within the first minute as a result of Tornado's rams, leaving it unable to land any substantial hits thereafter. If the disc gears mesh at any point during this battle, the Rose boys will be in trouble. Behemoth's performances in the real Series 6 suggest that it would be confident enough to ram and lift Hypno-Disc from the get-go; its scoop has already proved durable in head-to-head collisions with Hypno-Disc's older disc, so repeated collisions could allow it to cause the newer disc similar problems to what Tornado caused. All right, there is still a chance of Hypno-Disc attacking and KO'ing Behemoth from the sides, but given how Disc-O-Inferno's KO blows were achieved under Group Battle circumstances, when Team Make Robotics were focused on attacking and escaping from Derek 2 to begin with, I assume that Behemoth would not be left equally as vulnerable in an one-on-one scenario. Behemoth to wear Hypno-Disc down as before. VulcansHowl 22:48, January 21, 2018 (UTC)
  5. Behemoth won before so it'll win again. Sam (BAZINGA) 23:48, January 21, 2018 (UTC)
  6. Happened before and with a better Behemoth this time. CaliforniaKingsnake (talk) 01:59, January 22, 2018 (UTC)
  7. We've been this one before, and while Hypno-Disc almost stood still from Extreme 1 to Series 6, Behemoth improved in speed, armour and power. With Hypno-Disc the only robot to focus on, Behemoth will be less exposed and take the win. Raz3r(talk) 16:38, January 22, 2018 (UTC)
Winner: Behemoth (7-4)

Dantomkia vs Supernova[edit source]

Dantomkia Supernova
Votes for Dantomkia
  1. I’ll give Dantomkia the benefit of the doubt here. I think it’ll survive a couple of big blows, and then cynically stack Supernova up against the arena wall. Nweston8 (talk) 11:46, January 21, 2018 (UTC)
  2. Supernova won't enjoy being bounced around by a flipper a lot. Dantomkia can survive a few hits anyway, they'll most likely be superficial. As long as it doesn't get stuck under an angle grinder... Jimlaad43(talk) 12:16, January 21, 2018 (UTC)
  3. The worst robot of all time (Spawn Again) was able to defeat Supernova so why couldn't a better and well made machine defeat it also? Yes the two are different in body and flipper shape but I'm sure that could be an advantage here, Supernova will cause damage but the way Dantomkia is shaped should tank it and be able to get a few flips here and there, essentially decimating Supernova's internals. Tough one.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 12:17, January 21, 2018 (UTC)
  4. Neither robot took hard knocks very well in this series; Dantomkia just gets the benefit of my doubt on the grounds that it was unlucky to get stuck on the grinder, making it a sitting duck for S3. Supernova, meanwhile, stopped working properly following a few modest flips from an ailing Spawn Again; a working Dantomkia should manage much better flips than that. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:36, January 21, 2018 (UTC)
  5. Supernova's unreliability I feel will be it's undoing if it gets flipped a certain way. If Spawn Again who was broken in this wars were able to KO it, surely Dantomkia can do likewise. BizarroKing (talk) 22:14, January 21, 2018 (UTC)
  6. We know that Supernova didn’t enjoy big hits, and Dantomkia’s flipper should pack more than enough punch to either toss Supernova out or knock something loose. As long as Dantomkia continues to face Supernova, I can't see it being worried. This is going to be a cracking losers' melee. Raz3r(talk) 16:38, January 22, 2018 (UTC)
Votes for Supernova
  1. It depends greatly on reliability when it comes to who will win this battle. On the one hand, Supernova did suffer against flippers, as proven against Spawn Again. On the other hand, Dantomkia broke down under just a couple of blows against S3, at this very stage in fact. I think I will go with Supernova, partly because its disc has been proven to cause significant internal damage, and partly because I do not see Dantomkia getting that knockout flip in time. After all, Supernova is a truly invertible machine, unlike 13 Black, whilst there were too many variables in that Extreme 2 battle involving Hypno-Disc (such as the spinner being deflected by S.M.I.D.S.Y. into the CPZ, allowing Dantomkia to capitalise) to really consider the idea of Dantomkia achieving an out of the arena flip. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 11:19, January 21, 2018 (UTC)
  2. This was before Dantomkia got its HARDOX chassis, and I have been told that Dantomkia's armour in Series 6 was as a result, very thin. I'm not sure how good the armour itself was in Series 7, but we did see Scorpion put a huge gash in that. The only other evidence we have concerning Dantomkia's armour is a single hit from 13Black, the knockout from S3, and maybe a hit from Hypno-Disc, making this a bit of a mystery. However, Dantomkia is still a newcomer in terms of driving skill and I think there's a reason no robot ever managed to throw the slippery Supernova out of the arena, which means that Dantomkia would have to win through the use of the pit or House Robots (has Dantomkia ever pitted a robot in its life? Depends if you count Wild Thing). All the while, it cannot suffer a breakdown to a bit hit, when even robots such as Pussycat and Firestorm have immobilised it in the past. I don't mind whichever robot wins this, but Supernova has to do less to win. TOAST, FLIPPER 18:19, January 21, 2018 (UTC)
    It did pit Terrorhurtz in the All-Stars, but it was dead already by then I guess. Raz3r(talk) 16:48, January 22, 2018 (UTC)
  3. I'm in agreement with this side, Dantomkia had thin armour at this current moment, while Supernova was at its strongest. CaliforniaKingsnake (talk) 01:59, January 22, 2018 (UTC)
Winner: Dantomkia (6-3)

Special Event - Reserve Rumble[edit source]

Terror Turtle vs Nasty Humphrey vs Short Circuit vs Colossus[edit source]

Terror Turtle
Extreme terror turtle.JPG
  1. Nasty Humphrey and Colossus. Before I begin explaining, I should note that the Awards nominations are to begin either later today or tomorrow (thanks to RAZ3R for reminding me), so if you could nominate some award ideas on the Discussion page, it would be appreciated. Also, I plan to start another tournament after the main series, which I will announce on the Discussion page later, through which you can nominate some robots to compete in it. Anyhow, back to the Reserve Rumble qualifier, and I have decided to vote for one non-qualifier and one binned machine. To me, Nasty Humphrey is probably the best of the bunch, seeing as its axe is decent enough and a reliable points scorer, whilst its design I think will be too difficult to flip by Colossus. In particular, I can see Nasty Humphrey taking out Short Circuit, whose reliability and weapons really were not that great in Series 6, plus that flat top looks pretty appealing to an axe. As for the other two, I suspect that Terror Turtle's bar spinner will be rather ineffective against any of the machines here. In addition, I believe that Colossus this time will succeed in flipping an opponent over, especially when considering that Terror Turtle has a high ground clearance and instability. Fun fact: originally, I had Reactor 3 instead of Terror Turtle in this Rumble. Then I realised that having a similar sequel to a robot well-regarded on this Wiki probably was not a good idea, so I replaced it due to concerns of it being too overpowered for this tournament. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 11:55, January 23, 2018 (UTC)
  2. Nasty Humphrey and Colossus. Terror Turtle is vulnerable to whoever it goes for first, so we might as well exclude it. As for the other three, I really don't know what Short Circuit could do. It comes across as being more vulnerable to the other two robots than they are to each other. CrashBash (talk) 12:22, January 23, 2018 (UTC)
  3. Colossus and Nasty Humphrey. To this day I have no idea how Short Circuit is supposed to have torn Atomic apart. But anyway, Humphrey is a solid build, and Collossus is good in theory. That'll do for a reason I suppose. Jimlaad43(talk) 14:25, January 23, 2018 (UTC)
  4. Nasty Humphrey and Colossus. Can't add to what's been said already. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:29, January 23, 2018 (UTC)
  5. Nasty Humphrey and Colossus: I think it's gonna be unanimous. BizarroKing (talk) 23:01, January 23, 2018 (UTC)
  6. Nasty Humphrey and Colossus. Nasty Humphrey has the best chance of causing damage and showing aggression, and while Colossus's flipper wasn't potent at all, the shape, tougher armour and better reliability should allow it to get through ahead of Short Circuit or Terror Turtle. Raz3r(talk) 23:19, January 23, 2018 (UTC)
  7. Nasty Humphrey and Colossus. Terror Turtle begins its career with an unfortunate 0-1 Win/Loss record. TOAST, FLIPPER 12:45, January 24, 2018 (UTC)
  8. Nasty Humphrey and Colossus. These two are going to last a fight better - simple. Nweston8 (talk) 13:53, January 24, 2018 (UTC)
Nasty Humphrey
Nasty Humphrey.png
Short Circuit
Results Qualified: Nasty Humphrey and Colossus Score: 0-8-0-8

Losers' melee[edit source]

Terrorhurtz vs Hypno-Disc (4) vs Supernova[edit source]

Terrorhurtz Hypno-Disc Supernova
Votes for Terrorhurtz
  1. It's not as though Terrorhurtz died in one hit to Fluffy. Hypno-Disc was immobilised with great ease at this stage of Series 6, a wedge only needed to ram it into the arena wall. Terrorhurtz is capable of that, while Supernova can output that kind of trauma with its own weapon. If Hypno-Disc is quickly written out of the battle, I find Terrorhurtz much more likely to beat Supernova in head-to-head combat. TOAST, FLIPPER 12:49, January 24, 2018 (UTC)
  2. Was there any other reason why Terrorhurtz's front and side armour were beefed up following its clash with Fluffy last series? Bear in mind, Hypno-Disc and Supernova suffered greatly in the real-life Series 6 following the recoil of their own hits/attacks from opponents (i.e. Spawn Again's flips), so I can't see them lasting long once Terrorhurtz starts hacking away and ramming them into the walls/grinders. Hypno-Disc to go out first, followed by Supernova once Terrorhurtz manages to bend its chassis in. VulcansHowl 13:24, January 24, 2018 (UTC)
Votes for Hypno-Disc
  1. This Terrorhurtz is pre-anti-spinner wedge, so doesn't have much chance. We didn't really see Hypno have any issues is Series 6, it was just beaten in the fights. Supernova struggled with reliability, so I can see those gremlins creeping in. Terror and Super to be immobilised. Jimlaad43(talk) 14:33, January 23, 2018 (UTC)
  2. Tough battle, three good robots but all with reliability problems. Hmm. I honestly struggle here, I don't think Terrorhurtz can win unfortunately (especially against the likes of Supernova) so leaves the two spinners and because of them exposed tires and obvious reliability problems can be a hindrance and so Hypno-Disc can capitalise on this attack.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 16:07, January 23, 2018 (UTC)
  3. I probably would've voted Hypno-Disc through in the last round, but no matter, as I think Terrorhurtz' vulnerability to spinners, coupled with Supernova's exposed wheels and questionable durability when it's being pressured should see Hypno-Disc grab the win. Datovidny (talk) 16:39, January 23, 2018 (UTC)
  4. Terrorhurtz will suffer at the hands of both spinners, and with Supernova unrealistically capable of a knock as hard as the one that took Hypno-Disc out at this stage, the more famous spinner should be capable of a KO via a wheel attack. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:32, January 23, 2018 (UTC)
  5. Terrorhurtz is sadly done for by either disc in my eyes; the question is which one of them will survive; Hypno-Disc at the very least is more reliable and durable, even if one could argue Supernova at this stage MAY (May mind you) have the slightly stronger weapon. BizarroKing (talk) 23:04, January 23, 2018 (UTC)
  6. In a head-to-head scenario, Terrorhurtz has a decent chance against either opponent, but it'll struggle to outmanoeuvre both spinners at once. Its one hope is for the spinners to attack each other first, but then it would need to avoid the action, which isn't something Terrorhurtz our John Reid does. Between the two spinners, Hypno-Disc has the better armour, and the reliability troubles strained from recoiling off good armour, which Supernova does not have. Raz3r(talk) 23:16, January 23, 2018 (UTC)
  7. Terrorhurtz will be swept aside in the opening period of confusion and destruction. Then, Hypno-Disc's chunkier weapon and Supernova seeming more fragile in a spinner-on-spinner fight will prove telling. Nweston8 (talk) 13:54, January 24, 2018 (UTC)
Votes for Supernova
  1. Credit to Toast for the high-quality Hypno-Disc image. Anyhow, this is a cracker of a melee, one of which I would have significant trouble debating on if we are assuming that all three robots are one hundred percent. Ultimately, however, they are not, and that brings me to why I think Supernova will win. Firstly, I simply cannot vote for Terrorhurtz, I just cannot. Whilst Hypno-Disc and probably Supernova are likely negatively impacted by their previous battles, Terrorhurtz, as noted in its Grand Final Playoff, also suffered badly when facing a damaging opponent. Therefore, when combined with the fact it is facing two powerful spinners, Terrorhurtz's reliability issues are going to cost it dearly. As for the two spinners... I am not one hundred percent sure, but I think that if we are going on a real-life basis, Hypno-Disc is prone to breaking down at any moment, simply down to its attacks. If its recoil from the disc can cause it to be knocked out, I am sure another powerful spinner like Supernova can deal the same impact. Benefit of the doubt goes to Supernova, as I am uncertain on its current state after losing to Dantomkia. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 11:55, January 23, 2018 (UTC)
    We did already have that image technically...Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 16:07, January 23, 2018 (UTC)
    That is why I said "high-quality". SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 16:30, January 23, 2018 (UTC)
    I don't see a change in quality other than a change in background ;) Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 16:49, January 23, 2018 (UTC)
    Henceforth, "high-quality". SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 16:35, January 25, 2018 (UTC)
Winner: Hypno-Disc (7-2-1)

Round 2[edit source]

Dominator 2 (6) vs Hypno-Disc (4)[edit source]

Dominator 2 Hypno-Disc
Silver dominator 2.gif
Votes for Dominator 2
  1. I'm very much convinced by the Extreme 2 melee, here. Dominator 2 may have suffered in the 13 Black fight, but that was only evidence that a 30kg vertical spinner can cut upwards on Dominator 2's armour. When it comes to horizontals, this Dominator 2 bats everything aside. Dominator 2 used literally every area of its shell to tank Hypno-Disc, and it suffered no damage at all. Its front bi-wedge, its wheelguards, its back - they all took massive blows and all came out comfortably intact. Hypno-Disc to be ground to a halt. Nweston8 (talk) 17:03, January 25, 2018 (UTC)
  2. Dominator 2 will have learned from the series before and will now dominate Hypno by driving differently, making sure to use the axe better, maybe doing a Shunt and stopping the disc. Bear in mind that Hypno has just come out of a battle with Supernova and Terrorhurtz. It'll be limping by now and it won't take many hits to die. Jimlaad43(talk) 17:30, January 25, 2018 (UTC)
    Judging by the hits that Dominator 2 actually landed on Hypno-Disc's disc in Extreme 2, I think a Shunt-style blow is very unlikely to happen...VulcansHowl 17:37, January 25, 2018 (UTC)
  3. Considering how much Dominator was able to resist 13 Black before it got tangled up with Matilda...and considering that 13 Black's discs spin at the exact same speed as Hypno-Disc's...and I get the feeling Dominator will be able to tank Hypno-Disc. By this point, I have to doubt Hypno-Disc can do any tanking in return. Basically, I don't see a wheel being disabled this time. CrashBash (talk) 17:31, January 25, 2018 (UTC)
  4. Considering how many hits Dominator 2 took from Hypno-Disc in the Extreme 2 All-Stars without losing drive or incurring major damage to its shell, its fair to say that revenge is on the cards here. It showed itself in the aforementioned competition as being regularly willing to push, deflect and even axe Hypno-Disc's disc, the recoil of which ultimately KO'd Hypno-Disc itself following that final hit on Spawn Again. Who's to say that Dominator 2 won't repeat that performance here with its much-improved shell and axe? It'll take longer without Spawn Again in the mix, but I can see a Terrorhurtz vs Carbide-style battle rewarding Dominator 2 with a spectacular victory and a well-deserved Grand Final place. More than makes up for their Series 5 clash, too. VulcansHowl 17:37, January 25, 2018 (UTC)
  5. You just have to directly compare Hypno-Disc's attacks on Dominator II in Series 5 to its attacks in Extreme 2. The difference is remarkable, and while Dominator II lost a lot of aesthetic charm with this new design, that armour was among the very best we got to see before HARDOX was popularised. Funny how Spawn Again got to do 'the Pussycat' and steal a kill and second win on Hypno-Disc when one robot was on the verge of vengeance, but here, Dominator II can put the work in alone. TOAST, FLIPPER 18:39, January 25, 2018 (UTC)
  6. Dominator 2 to tank Hypno-Disc and win via judges decision. Sam (BAZINGA) 00:10, January 26, 2018 (UTC)
Votes for Hypno-Disc
  1. Oh dear, may have just given us two battles we have already technically seen. Well, when I say technically... anyhow, this battle. Well, at first, I thought this was going to be an easy "happened" vote, but then I rewatched the All-Stars melee the two were in, as well as Dominator 2's battle with 13 Black, and then I was not quite as sure. Indeed, Dominator 2 seemingly did quite well to tank the blows against Hypno-Disc in the All-Stars, whilst it was Matilda, not 13 Black, who caused the mobility issues it ultimately had. However, although it is very possible that Dominator 2 could actually outlast the spinner due to the recoil argument, I ultimately do believe that Hypno-Disc will get that one attack to compromise the axebot's mobility. And this time, Hypno-Disc will finish the job in my opinion, we cannot have a repeat of their Series 5 battle thankyouverymuch! SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 16:35, January 25, 2018 (UTC)
  2. Hmm. Yes Dominator is improved and yes this does seem like I'm picking on them after voting TerrorHurtz last round and Hypno-Disc but, on a personal scale I don't see all that potential in Dominator and it did lose to Hypno-Disc before hand...Both robots have improved. Therefore, both will try different tactics, as soon as the disc collides with the wheels could cause it to become hindered though as the allstars suggest it was able to tank the hits, but consider it was three way melee, Hypno-Disc was rather pinned in that battle, so without a distraction in Spawn Again, Hypno-Disc should be able to be more aggressive and have more room for control. Toughun'Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 17:35, January 25, 2018 (UTC)
  3. Oh, so it was just a coincidence that we got the exact same draw as actual S6 in the first semi then? I thought you were just using the same draw. Shame, I was looking forward to an interesting discussion here about Behemoth vs Dominator 2. Anyway, in a simple one-on-one with Dominator 2, rather than having another robot which can gang up on it, Hypno-Disc should manage another win here, though hopefully more interesting than a year earlier.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Hogwild94 (talkcontribs)
    As I mentioned in the Razer-Stinger battle, I used Therefore, it was possible that Razer-Firestorm 4 and S3-Stinger could have been the battles to debate on, henceforth meaning that we would have completely different finalists! I would have voted for Dominator 2 against Behemoth, on the basis that although Behemoth would have started strong by lifting the axebot several times, the sixth seed would land some crucial hits on the top of its opponent, enabling it to have a worthy comeback that slows Behemoth down considerably. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 18:50, January 25, 2018 (UTC)
    Ah yes, you did say that, I must have missed that. Fair enough then. I'd probably have gone for Behemoth in that fight as this Dominator 2 didn't seem as good as the previous two, both of whom I'd back to beat the Behemoths of their respective series. The extra speed I'd say would make the difference. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:58, January 25, 2018 (UTC)
  4. Normally I'd say it's a repeat and vote Dominator 2 but I will acknowledge the slightly different variables, the freak konk-out and Spawn Again doing its part in a double-team. I'll give the nod to Hypno-Disc on the basis that even the team admitted that Dominator 2 was in a bit of a state after the fight. Providing Hypno-Disc doesn't konk out and lasts the full 5 minutes it could be curtains for Dominator 2. Datovidny (talk) 20:19, January 25, 2018 (UTC)
  5. Hypno doesn't have to worry about Spawn Again here and the fact that they damaged Dominator fairly well in S5; it may be a series later, but I think we can see a repeat of that S5 match-up...BizarroKing (talk) 23:53, January 25, 2018 (UTC)
  6. This is a really, really tough decision. On the one hand, you have Dominator 2, whose armour is undoubtedly better in this series. On the other, we have Hypno-Disc, who had some issues with recoil. However, what else can Dominator 2 really do except deflect? Certainly, its axe wasn't strong enough to stop the flywheel or damage Hypno- Disc's armour, and it doesn't strike me as a pusher. Without Spawn Again, Hypno-Disc has more room to manoeuvre and get the flywheel up to speed faster. This will allow it to time attacks better, and send Dominator 2 recoiling away as well as Hypno-Disc. If Hypno-Disc can be trusted not to break down from recoil, I can't see it being beaten in any other way by Dominator 2, and would take the Judges' Decision for being the aggressor during the hits. Raz3r(talk) 07:46, January 26, 2018 (UTC)
  7. Happened. Any arguments in favour of Dominator 2 are underrating the Series 6 Hypno-Disc, or overrating Dominator 2. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 07:51, January 26, 2018 (UTC)
    Still, at least we are acknowledging the specific strengths and weaknesses of each robot's Series 6/Extreme 2 forms. If that All-Stars melee wasn't prove that Dominator 2's shell was much stronger in Series 6/Extreme 2 than in Series 5/Extreme 1, I don't know what is. VulcansHowl 11:05, January 26, 2018 (UTC)
    And remember that Dominator fought 13 Black straight afterwards? 13 Black's disc spins at exactly the same speed as Hypno-Disc's in that era. It took Matilda to break through Dominator. Besides, couldn't I just say that you're overrating Hypno-Disc/underrating Dominator? CrashBash (talk) 14:11, January 26, 2018 (UTC)
  8. Such a tough call, but for me Hypno-Disc has it. For a start, Dominator 2 may have looked to have weathered Hypno-Disc well enough, but it seemed to take the team a long time to repair the damage it received, evidently more than it appeared- and that was in a fight where Hypno-Disc was constantly under attack from both opponents, rarely given the opportunity to line up attacks or get the disc up to top speeds. With only Dominator 2 to concentrate on, and not receiving jarring flips from Spawn Again, Hypno-Disc is likely to cause more damage here. As for what Dominator 2 can actually do- well, the axe did pretty much nothing when they met in Extreme 2. It can charge into Hypno-Disc and buffet it- but every time it does that it's at risk of losing the front support for the axe- or it can attempt to back into Hypno-Disc, but that's thinner armour and it's going to take more damage. I can see Dominator 2 surviving the fight, but if Hypno-Disc does too then Dominator 2's well down on points. Combatwombat555 (talk) 22:58, January 26, 2018 (UTC)
Winner: Hypno-Disc (8-6)

Behemoth vs Dantomkia[edit source]

Behemoth Dantomkia
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Votes for Behemoth Votes for Dantomkia
  1. Unless someone can convince me that the Series 6 version will not repeat the out of the arena that the Series 7 version did, I have no real reason to go against the "happened" rule this time round. After all, although Behemoth's scoop is lower than Dantomkia's wedge, the flipper is generally more agile, enough to easily go and attack the sides and rear without any trouble. Behemoth has done very well to reach this round don't you think? SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 16:35, January 25, 2018 (UTC)
  2. Although I'm rather bitter that Dantomkia has reached a bloody Grand Final, I can't disagree either. As much as I admire Anthony Pritchard, he always seems to drive himself into dangerous areas, and like in the All-Stars battle between the two, I see it happening again. Also, Dantomkia is such a long shape, and Behemoth's scoop doesn't have the power or height to turn Dantomkia over if they meet head on. Nweston8 (talk) 17:06, January 25, 2018 (UTC)
  3. After my outrage last time in a Behemoth battle (which I still disagree with that Heat Final result) I'm back to vote against Behemoth and this time SURELY there's no chance. Considering the Series 7 version was meant to be better and STILL lost....this is a walk over and a bittersweet one at that.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 17:30, January 25, 2018 (UTC)
  4. Behemoth will always be extremely vulnerable to other flippers. Dantomkia is good enough to easily bully Behemoth around. Jimlaad43(talk) 17:32, January 25, 2018 (UTC)
  5. Yeah, not convinced either. CrashBash (talk) 17:33, January 25, 2018 (UTC)
  6. Well, if Behemoth's performances against Bigger Brother and in the Series 7 All-Stars are anything to go by, then it's surprisingly fantastic run comes to an abrupt and rather predictable end. VulcansHowl 17:37, January 25, 2018 (UTC)
  7. Can't add to this. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:31, January 25, 2018 (UTC)
  8. If the All-Stars battle never happened then I would seriously doubt Dantomkia's ability to throw Behemoth out of the arena, but we saw it! This should be their second OotA ever after Iron-Awe 2. TOAST, FLIPPER 18:42, January 25, 2018 (UTC)
  9. Nothing more to add. BizarroKing (talk) 23:53, January 25, 2018 (UTC)
  10. I don't think there's any doubt that Dantomkia has had the easiest run to the Grand Final. While I'm delighted to send it through, I hope we see it avoid Firestorm and have an intriguing clash against Stinger or, if it goes through, Dominator 2. Here, Dantomkia has the better of Behemoth for the classic series. Yes, most of us voted the other way in Extreme 3, but this Behemoth is t as good at self righting, its reliability was weaker and it wasn't as nimble, all of which plays nicely into Dantomkia's hands. With this battle basically over, Dantomkia will become the first debutant to reach a Grand Final since Series 3. Nice. Raz3r(talk) 07:46, January 26, 2018 (UTC)
Winner: Dantomkia (10-0)
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