Planning to get this tournament started on Wednesday. So, let's begin to discuss how Dutch Series 3 should be structured. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:26, February 16, 2020 (UTC)
Judges
Currently, the Judges are Toast and Diotoir. As host, I give up my position, meaning someone else is required to fill the role. Any takers?
30 or 40 robots?
The idea according to Crash and Toast was that we needed 30 robots. Based on the difficulties I had finding 40 robots without using almost every Dutch Series 2 machine (and then a few German robots), I believe 30 robots is ideal. But, does anyone want 40 machines? Curious.
List of robots
So, who is going to compete? Need at least 30 robots, and based on Series 7, we have at least the following competitors:
- Bamm Bamm
- Gravity
- Hammerhead 2
- Hard
- Krab-Bot
- NEATer Machine
- PulverizeR
- Scraptosaur
- Tartarus
- Tough as Nails
- Twister
- Reaper NP2 (Possible, because of the fact that Sniper's team captain was part of the team)
We can probably add Philipper 2, based on it competing in Extreme 2. In addition, we know enough to include a few robots that failed to qualify for Series 7, including:
- RCC 2 (I believe we have a low quality video that showcases it in action)
- Slicer (Under Dutch Series 1 specifications)
- Sniper (Again, Dutch Series 1 specifications)
- Splinter (Under Series 5 specifications)
So, we need another 13 machines. Time to borrow from Dutch Series 2!
- PulverizeR
- Lizzard
- Meshuggah
- Twisted Metal Evo
- √3
- Blackdevil Warzone
- Cyclone
- Flepser
- Impact
- Pika 3
- Trazmaniac
- Alien Destructor 2
- Das Gepäck
Replaced Bloody Murder Weapon and Scarab with Alien Destructor 2 and Das Gepäck, due to the technical problems the former two experienced that makes them harder to judge on the Arena Forums. But, if we need 40 robots, they can probably be included. Thoughts?
Format
Got a couple of options here. They include:
- Option 1: Stick with Dutch Series 1 format. The only issue is picking wildcards for an eight robot Grand Final, which could be rectified by doing a five-way melee consisting of the heat finalists, then picking the three survivors.
- Option 2: Utilise Series 10's format. Wildcards are still an issue.
- Option 3: Toast's idea, involving keeping the format similar to Dutch Series 1, but with changes to how wildcards are picked. The five heat finalists are placed in a melee whereby the surviving two reach the Grand Final. Elsewhere, the Round 2 losers of each heat compete in a play-off to determine who enters the Second Round five-way melee, similar to Series 10's Rumble format. The winner of the melee also progress to the Grand Final.
- Option 4: Toast's idea, but with the Series 10 format.
- Option 5: Something else.
Option 1 (Stick with Dutch Series 1 format)
Option 2 (Series 10 format)
Option 3 (Toast's idea, Dutch Series 1 format)
- Resolves the wildcard issue quite nicely. Am tempted to pick Option 4, should others prefer opening three-way melees. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:26, February 16, 2020 (UTC)
- I'm a little torn between this and a four way melee format, as using this format sort of keeps tradition in a way but a four way melee is quite fun and a Hell of a lot more fun that a head to head. Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 15:48, February 16, 2020 (UTC)
Option 4 (Toast's idea, four-way opening melees)
Option 5 (Something else)
Seeds
Some support for seeds in this tournament was noted. 5 or 10, though?
SpaceManiac888
If we are having five seeds, we may as well base it on Dutch Series 2 results!
- PulverizeR
- Philipper 2
- Scraptosaur
- Krab-Bot
- Bamm Bamm
Decided to place Krab-Bot above Bamm Bamm, since Crushtacean won its heat and had success in other competitions. Bamm Bamm... kind of didn't, but its win over Lizzard earns it a place in the top five regardless.
If we want to add another five seeds, here are my suggestions.
- Lizzard
- Twister
- Gravity
- Twisted Metal Evo
- Slicer
Lizzard outranks Twister because the former won its heat. Twister outranks Gravity and Twisted Metal Evo, because all three made it to the Heat Finals, but Twister was picked as a wildcard ahead of the others. Gravity outplaces Twisted Metal Evo because of the potential surrounding the new design. Meshuggah is not seeded because although a "Grand Finalist", it failed, unlike Bamm Bamm, to take full advantage of it, losing at an early stage. Slicer therefore gets the final spot, being the Dutch Series 1 champion looking to reclaim a title it never actually lost. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:26, February 16, 2020 (UTC)
Special events
Not sure about special events this time, as they haven't really been that popular as of late. The only idea I have is Germany vs The Netherlands, based on an idea some had back in Audited Series 6. We could perhaps do this after the main tournament ends. Other than that, nothing really, unless others have better ideas. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:26, February 16, 2020 (UTC)