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Welkom terug bij Nederlandse Serie 3. Last episode, we witnessed Krab-Bot defeat the former wildcard Grand Finalist Meshuggah to earn a place in the Grand Final for the second consecutive time. But perhaps also for the second consecutive time, Meshuggah, among others, may obtain places of their own. Indeed, this time around, they must earn their wildcard spots, courtesy of the all-new rumble format! Two Rumbles consisting of five machines each will do battle to determine who will fill the final three spaces of the Grand Final. One lucky machine will do so in the 3rd Place Rumble, while two of the five competitors in the Heat Final Rumble will gain a place providing they are the last robots standing. So, LAAT DE OORLOGEN BEGINNEN!

3rd Place Rumble

Spike vs Twister vs Splinter vs Scraptosaur vs Meshuggah

Like with all Rumbles on the Wiki, the same rules apply. When voting, you must describe in detail the battle and its outcome. This includes explaining why each robot will be eliminated, and which machine you think will be the last robot standing. When eliminating or declaring a robot the winner, please put their names in bold. This battle will not go to the judges; instead, the Rumble will continue should a tie occur, allowing those who did not vote for the tied robots to break the deadlock in the second voting round. Remember: Try to give a full description of the battle, because this is more likely to convince others to support your view of the Rumble. And always be aware of the dreaded edit conflicts!

Spike	Twister	Splinter
Scraptosaur	Meshuggah
Votes SpaceManiac888 The quality of machines that only placed third in their heats is quite good, to be honest. Could certainly see all reaching a heat final had they faced more relaxing competition. Alas, only one can go through to the Grand Final, so here is what I think will happen: Splinter will be the first to fall. To be fair, I think Splinter's ruthless aggression and pushing power will make it competent enough to beat Spike and Meshuggah and even challenge Twister. Problem is, it lacks a reliable srimech. During the chaos at the start, I can see Scraptosaur exploiting one of Splinter's arms, using it to get underneath and flip its opponent. Inverted, I see no way of it being righted. Spike is probably the weakest here, since its overpowered axe causes it to jump, plus its record against flippers was not exactly brilliant. When also facing two decent spinners, I really cannot see Spike surviving for long without breaking down. Meshuggah will do fairly well against both remaining opponents. I can see it toppling Scraptosaur once or twice, while being a decent match when colliding with Twister. Problem is, we know it is not durable. Against Lizzard, its weapon just stopped working, leaving it defenceless. Against Twister's bar and Scraptosaur's pushing power, I cannot see Meshuggah resisting much without its weapon, thus eventually being knocked out. Finally, the fact that Twister's spinner came to a halt in its Series 7 melee is somewhat concerning. While I believe Scraptosaur will sustain a lot of damage, we know from the less well armoured Scrap-2-Saur that it can endure quite a bit of punishment. So even though Scraptosaur will eventually lose the usage of its flipper due to lack of gas, it can still push its vulnerable opponent around, eventually into the pit. Thus, Scraptosaur gets my vote. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 19:22, March 23, 2020 (UTC) CrashBash Honestly, for me, this is a no-brainer. There's only one robot I feel confident that will take this. It's true that Scraptosaur has lost a few of the advantages it had in DS2, but that's not going to be an issue here - none of its opponents have flippers. Meshuggah is perhaps the biggest threat, but considering its relative lack of reliability, I just don't see its disc lasting long enough to cause Scraptosaur any issues. Spike is probably long gone by that point, and Meshuggah will likely end up in the pit. Splinter wasn't always great at self-righting when we last saw it, and I'm not sure what will have been improved. Twister and Scraptosaur will likely be the last robots standing and given Twister's weapon also wasn't always reliable, I can see Scraptosaur outlasting that and then Twister either dies at the hands of a House Robot or gets pushed in the pit. Ultimately, Scraptosaur is the last bot still moving. CrashBash (talk) 19:34, March 23, 2020 (UTC) Jimlaad43 Only one robot is surviving to the end, and that one is obvious. Twister and Meshuggah's spinners will cause no end of issues to Scraptosaur and Spike, and I especially don't see Scraptosaur's flipper lasting long in this fight. Splinter's axe is going to pummel a few robot on the top, but its wedge is the power weapon of the lot. Splinter can go around the arena, scooping up all these small robots and throwing them into the pit without much in return. It will be able to live with taking a couple of hits from Twister as it pushes it down, and overall, a pretty convincing pit-laden victory for Splinter. Jimlaad43(talk) 19:56, March 23, 2020 (UTC) TheyCallMeDoot Didn't expect to see me back again, huh? Honestly, with all the BS of COVID-19 going on made worse by my vulnerable condition, I might as well come back to the forums to liven up what little I can do at the moment. Anyways, robots and rumbles. Spike: Of the 5 'bots in the field, Spike looks the weakest machine outright. I have no idea how good the axe is and its slab sides and boxy shape lead it to being easy to target especially against the spinners, Meshuggah and Twister. Thus, it'll probably die first after getting wayward blows that seize up the machine somewhat. Twister: The good news is that Twister can attack from both the front and the back, which helps in a rumble situation and leaves only its small sides in danger. The main weakness of Twister is that its weapon isn't that good at reach, so it might struggle to get any hits in, especially if it gets overturned in some way by Scraptosaur or Meshuggah. Splinter: Splinter's main advantages are against the spinners, where its bulldozer-esque shape can corral the spinners into anywhere it wants to, be it the pits or any of the hazards. However, there's one glaring one-flip-and-done-shaped hole, and that is in Scraptosaur. If Scrap can get a flip on Splinter, its game over. Good news for Splinter is that the arms make it a hard target to throw over. Scraptosaur: The only problem Scraptosaur will have to deal with is in the form of Meshuggah, but as for the other machines, it can bulldoze Twister, one-flip-and-done Splinter and just overwhelm Spike in general. It is probably the most well-rounded of the machines in the fight, though could struggle if overturned in some way. Meshuggah: Meshuggah's weapon is powerful, but it is a perpetual time bomb in this rumble. The flywheel is powerful, but I worry about its reliability in the long run. A wayward hit from Twister or Splinter may be all that is needed to stop Meshuggah dead in its tracks and kill it, but it should nonetheless do decently enough. So, with all that in mind, how will the fight go? Spike will probably die first, being ganged up on by all the 'bots in some sense, though the main damage comes from Meshuggah and Twister's attacks. Meshuggah will probably try to enact vengeance against Scraptosaur, but will get blindsided in some way by Twister and will break down after a harsh hit to the sides. The next to fall will be Twister, as that 'bot can't hope to do much against two 'bots well-equipped to neutralise and take out spinners, so Twister will end up pitted. That then leaves Scraptosaur and Splinter, and the 1v1 will end abruptly as Splinter will end up one-flip-and-done'd by Scraptosaur's launcher, leaving it dead in the water. Thus, my 3rd place rumble winner is Scraptosaur 03. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 02:00, March 24, 2020 (UTC)
Winner:

Heat Final Rumble

This time, please vote for two machines you think will survive to the end.

Das Gepäck vs Hard vs Bamm Bamm vs Gravity vs ODT-Zero

Das Gepäck	Hard	Bamm Bamm
Gravity	ODT-Zero
Votes SpaceManiac888 OK, so even I am not going to argue against a certain machine here qualifying for the Grand Final. The question though, is who progresses with it. To me, this is actually simple. Hard is a decent flipper, but it clearly hated hard knocks (yes, I know). Gravity's flips are capable of delivering hard knocks, thus securing a knockout early on. Bamm Bamm not only has a high ground clearance, its srimech has been problematic over the years. It may self right once or twice, but ultimately, it is going to land at the wrong angle, leaving it unable to right itself. Das Gepäck's cousin in Alien Destructor 2 was already defeated by ODT-Zero earlier in this tournament. Not only that, ODT-Zero has a connection with Gravity, in that Alexander Russchen teamed with WJ Dijkstra as part of √3, so expect them to team together. Not to mention, Das Gepäck's high ground clearance and flippable shape makes it a prime candidate for being thrown out of the arena, right? Thus, Gravity cleans house, carrying ODT-Zero with it. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 19:22, March 23, 2020 (UTC) CrashBash OK, it's blatantly obvious which robot is definitely going through. No one even comes CLOSE to challenging Gravity - even if they were to team up. But who goes through with it? Well, it's not Bamm Bamm. It's the only one of the four who can't run inverted and its srimech didn't always work, sooo...it's out. It's not Hard either. If Gravity lobs it in the air, it's likely to die the moment it lands on the arena floor - Hard just couldn't take hard knocks. That leaves Das Gepack and ODT-Zero, and whilst it's true in a head-to-head, the same logic used with Alien Destructor makes perfect sense to eliminate ODT, but it's not a head-to-head. Every robot now has two different targets to contend with...and technically, the Gravity team have experience with both opponents, so they know how they could beat them. but who's more likely to be able to keep away from Gravity's flips? I'd honestly trust Das Gepack, given how comparatively slow ODT seemed to be, or at the very least it didn't feel too consistent in its only battle. Would Gravity perhaps see that as a weakness and go for the target that ISN'T trying to run away? Evasion in these sorts of rumbles works - Eruption will vouch for that - so ultimately, it's a fight I see Gravity and Das Gepack coming out on top, the latter being because I feel confident it'll last the longest of the non-Gravity four. CrashBash (talk) 19:41, March 23, 2020 (UTC)
Winner: