Welcome back to Robot Wars Extreme, where we welcome all sorts of carnage, chaos and destruction. It sounds pretty gruesome, doesn't it? But don't worry, this is perfectly acceptable for kids. In fact, we encourage it. And we'll prove it here today, in our Minor Meltdown, where some of our younger competitors, children and teens alike, take control of their killer machines. Who will get the ultimate bragging rights?
After watching Crank-E's melee, it was prone to similar designs to Glitterbomb, such as TMHWK, getting underneath its high ground clearance. Seeing as I do not suspect a lot of damage from either opponent, I believe that Glitterbomb's attempts at getting underneath and pushing its opponent may prove key to winning a Judges' decision on both control and aggression. SpaceManiac888(Talk) 07:48, June 13, 2017 (UTC)
Had to think about this one, but I have come to the decision that the ground clearance on Crank-E is too high and Glitterbomb can exploit this easily. Not only that the top armour of Crank-E seemed weak (and not just because of tin foil) so the axe could cause some damage, certainly some internal damage perhaps.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 08:36, June 13, 2017 (UTC)
Crank-E's spinner isn't quite there IMO, so Glitterbomb should win, assuming we are recording this on a hot day. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:35, June 13, 2017 (UTC)
Glitterbomb has a wedge which can push. That will be enough. -Jimlaad43(talk) 20:43, June 13, 2017 (UTC)
I assume you meant for it to go here? CrashBash (talk) 20:52, June 13, 2017 (UTC)
Votes for Crank-E
A hard one to gauge, but my concern is, whilst I'm not convinced either weapon can do anything substantial to the other, Crank-E comes across as looking just a little more potent. CrashBash (talk) 04:48, June 13, 2017 (UTC)
Glitterbomb's axe looks cool, but it's just completely the wrong shape to do anything. While Crank-E might find it hard to gain purchase, it'll probably scuff up the sides a bit if nothing else. S256 07:04, June 13, 2017 (UTC)
Losing to Aftershock is completely fair, we saw Crank-E's weapon spin so I trust that it will reach 6000rpm, compared to the OK-at-best weapon of Glitterbomb. A win based on potential. TOAST 20:54, June 13, 2017 (UTC)
I like Glitterbomb but it just doesn't do anything of note. Crank-E will at least scuff Glitterbomb up, and may even knock something internally if it is capable of a chunky hit. Nweston8 (talk) 21:06, June 13, 2017 (UTC)
Winner: Crank-E (4-4, 2-1 judges decision)
Glitter-bomb's out of the competition, as Crank-E goes through
If Or Te truly is as unreliable as the sources claim, then it stands no chance. CrashBash (talk) 04:48, June 13, 2017 (UTC)
Or Te really was a downgrade in my opinion I mean it's never won a battle in or outside Robot Wars because of constantly breaking down! Easy win for TR2.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 06:04, June 13, 2017 (UTC)
Pity TR2 is here to be honest, because this competition is wrapped up already unless several people can think of a way Sabretooth could beat them. Would have been interesting to see Frostbite vs Or Te and what people would have had to say there (I would have voted Frostbite). The most consistent flipper of the reboot against the least consistent here. Raz3r(talk) 06:33, June 13, 2017 (UTC)
Shall we place bets on how many flips TR2 will need to dislodge the ole safety link? S256 07:04, June 13, 2017 (UTC)
Not only is TR2 the best robot, it also has the oldest and most seasoned driver. Definite win. TOAST 15:58, June 13, 2017 (UTC)
Even if Or Te works properly, I'd still back TR2. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:35, June 13, 2017 (UTC)
Because TR2 is a sure thing to win this, I'm not going to vote in its battles from now on in this episode in the vain hope other people vote the other way and beat it.--Jimlaad43(talk) 20:45, June 13, 2017 (UTC)
Quite straightforward. Nweston8 (talk) 21:06, June 13, 2017 (UTC)
Votes for Or Te
Winner: TR2 (9-0)
Or Te, a nightmare in metal? It's certainly had one. TR2 goes through
Seriously? Cherub may be well built, but I can't really see it doing much other than sort of attacking Solider Ant with its lifter things, which won't flip it over. Solider Ant should be able to use its, admittedly modest, crusher to win this one. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:37, June 13, 2017 (UTC)
Cherub will be passive, and while Soldier Ant isn't going to crush Cherub, it will be on the attack, eventually winning.--Jimlaad43(talk) 20:48, June 13, 2017 (UTC)
Soldier Ant doesn't have a base, meaning Cherub's lifters will just drop deeper into Soldier Ant, leaving it unable to bundle it over. Soldier Ant will use its own wedge in return to prise under Cherub and will use its claw to cause minor damage and move Cherub around. It'll be close, it'll be quite boring, but I think Soldier Ant will just edge it. Nweston8 (talk) 21:06, June 13, 2017 (UTC)
Votes for Cherub
For a BOTS robot, Soldier Ant looked pretty decent. However, in part after watching mystrsyko's review on its episode, he pointed out a noticable flaw...its crusher actually lacks range. This could well be a problem with Cherub, who could at the very least evade too much damage and use its forklifts to get underneath and cause issues. Plus, we know it's built like a brick anyway
Cherub's forks can ether puncture the tire that look vulnerable or it can lift Soldier Ant up and over.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 06:09, June 13, 2017 (UTC)
Soldier Ant's range is limited and it has a high ground clearance at the back for Cherub to exploit. Once it goes over, there's no way back. S256 07:04, June 13, 2017 (UTC)
With Cherub being very aggressive, especially against PP3D, I do not see the rather slow Soldier Ant being able to use its crusher to great effect. Plus, with the idea that Soldier Ant's crusher lacks range, Cherub should dominate this by continually get underneath and damage the tyres. SpaceManiac888(Talk) 07:48, June 13, 2017 (UTC)
Soldier Ant is deserving of credit, but Cherub has this easily because of its lower ground clearance and better armour. It might even win via flip. TOAST 15:59, June 13, 2017 (UTC)
Winner: Cherub (5-3)
Solider Ant is squashed, and Cherub flies through to Round 2
I'd hoped that HIGH-5, going into New Series 2, would have been at least semi-decent. It died due to being breathed on awkwardly. Let that sink in. CrashBash (talk) 04:48, June 13, 2017 (UTC)
It's not just Series 9 in which HIGH-5 died instantly, in the live events, though doing much better, it seems to have a problem with constantly breaking down. Even if HIGH-5 works Sabretooth will dig its teeth into it.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 06:11, June 13, 2017 (UTC)
Even if High 5 was working, that lifter isn't going to be of any use. Sabretooth should bite its hands off. Hastag PrayForHigh5 --Headbanger14/The Hardcore Kid 06:20, June 13, 2017 (UTC)
Sabretooth should be able to KO High-5 almost instantly with the drum. Raz3r(talk) 06:30, June 13, 2017 (UTC)
Let's #prayforgabe everyone as Sabretooth quite happily digs in to those slab sides. S256 07:04, June 13, 2017 (UTC)
Thanks to Diotoir's information on live events, I am confident in saying that Sabretooth will be able to knockout HIGH-5 in a few blows at maximum. SpaceManiac888(Talk) 07:48, June 13, 2017 (UTC)
You'd think 12 years of evolution would make robots LESS prone to unexplained breakdowns. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:38, June 13, 2017 (UTC)
I went to those live events where HIGH-5 disappointed, it was... well, disappointing. TOAST 20:54, June 13, 2017 (UTC)
When Series 9's lineup was revealed, HIGH-5 was that inevitability that I called from the start to do absolutely nothing. Somehow, it did even worse than I thought, and Sabretooth can win this simply by driving around. It won't even need to KO HIGH-5 itself. Nweston8 (talk) 21:06, June 13, 2017 (UTC)
Votes for HIGH-5
Winner: Sabretooth (10-0)
"Down below....ooooh, too slow!" says Sabretooth, as it progresses to the next round
Cherub's fight against Eruption (the second one) pretty much showed it wasn't well equipped to deal with flippers. Granted, I'm not convinced TR2 will throw it out of the arena, but there's no denying it'll dominate. CrashBash (talk) 04:57, June 15, 2017 (UTC)
No OotA, but although Cherub will be aggressive, its only tactic here, TR2's flips will ultimately prove too much for it. It will go to a Judges' decision, but the result will easily be in TR2's favour. SpaceManiac888(Talk) 08:19, June 15, 2017 (UTC)
Whether TR3 will be able to chuck it out of the arena is uncertain. What is certain is that Cherub will be spending more time in the air than on the ground. S256 08:47, June 15, 2017 (UTC)
No chance of Cherub getting lucky here. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:26, June 15, 2017 (UTC)
TR2 might take longer to win this than it should, but it will win regardless. Quite a lot of flipping here. Raz3r(talk) 19:04, June 15, 2017 (UTC)
Even looking from the perspective of Cherub's attack, what can it hook onto? TR2 will always have wheels on the ground. TOAST 19:51, June 15, 2017 (UTC)
Comfortably boring. Nweston8 (talk) 21:34, June 15, 2017 (UTC)
Flip, flip, flip. Cherub may survive but it can't do a whole lot. Combatwombat555 (talk) 19:40, June 16, 2017 (UTC)
Votes for Cherub
Winner: TR2 (9-0)
Cherub Uprising? It certainly will be rising up thanks to the flipper of TR2, who storms through to the final
I'm going to be imaginative. I believe that Crank-E's front bucket could house the Sabretooth drum quite nicely, and then the vertical spinner can punch Esme in the jaw, damaging the brittle drum. There's more to hit on Sabretooth, and statistically Crank-E is a strong robot. TOAST 19:49, June 15, 2017 (UTC)
Votes for Sabretooth
Hey, it feels nice to be able to vote for Sabretooth and not feel frustrated that I'm doing so. It should more easily boss Crank-E around. CrashBash (talk) 04:57, June 15, 2017 (UTC)
Sabretooth just gets better and better each year, Team Cold Fusion seems to get worse each year...Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 06:14, June 15, 2017 (UTC)
Eh, well I do believe Crank-E is a step up from Kill-E-Crank-E. SpaceManiac888(Talk) 08:19, June 15, 2017 (UTC)
Crank-E's armour ultimately was not the greatest, and Sabretooth's disc was capable of causing decent damage. Hence, I see a knockout occurring here. SpaceManiac888(Talk) 08:19, June 15, 2017 (UTC)
It'll be a short while coming, but the Sabretooth will roar. S256 08:47, June 15, 2017 (UTC)
Better spinner wins and sets up a very interesting final. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:27, June 15, 2017 (UTC)
Sabretooth has the stronger weapon and should withstand attacks more easily. Raz3r(talk) 19:06, June 15, 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, Sabretooth is going to have a work a bit here, because the front of Crank-E can do a decent job of things. I doubt Crank-E can defend itself for the majority of the battle though, and will either get knocked out or lose a Judges' decision. Nweston8 (talk) 21:34, June 15, 2017 (UTC)
I can see the argument for Crank-E, but I'm just not convinced it'll get a good hit, or has the power in the blade to break the drum, or can stay facing Sabretooth the entire battle. If Sabretooth gets around the back, that's the battle over. Combatwombat555 (talk) 19:55, June 16, 2017 (UTC)
Winner: Sabretooth (8-1)
Crank-E cranks crankily out of the competition, Sabretooth roars through to the final
Going for Kadeena Machina here. Yes, Kadeena Machina is more fragile than one would think, with the weapon belt exposed. Then again, Thermidor 2 is fragile full-stop, being taken out by a few blows by other spinners. I should also mention the wheels; yes, Thermidor 2 is likely to be controlled a bit better than the BOTS competitors, but those wheels are significantly big, so surely Kadeena Machina's disc will be able to make contact with them? As proven before, once Thermidor 2's wheels are sufficently damaged, the other machine basically can dominate it until a knockout occurs. But what about Wyrm? Well, I will say that its anti-spinner wedge may deflect some blows inflicted by Kadeena Machina, but to say it can do it throughout the entire battle is unrealistic. Eventually, one good blow will break the wedge, allowing Kadeena Machina to destroy a robot that was thrown into a skip. SpaceManiac888(Talk) 07:36, June 17, 2017 (UTC)
Thermidor 2 never took big impacts well, particularly to the wheels; 13 Black, Typhoon 2, and Ironside3 all knocked out a wheel with big impacts, and I back Kadeena Machina to deliver a similar blow. Thermidor's also going to really struggle to line up a flip head-on without the vertical spinner clipping one of the claws, which will throw it away. And Wyrm's going to die whichever opponent reaches it first. Combatwombat555 (talk) 09:42, June 17, 2017 (UTC)
Votes for Thermidor 2
This is an interesting scenario. On the one hand, Kadeena has a no-loss winning streak, a powerful weapon and Thermidor by this stage has shown it can't really take a hit. On the other hand, that has only been shown against horizontal spinners, not vertical, and at the end of the day, Kadeena is still, essentially, a stock robot. Powerful, yes, but how powerful against a legitimate competitor? I mean, it could trash Wyrm, no question, but I'm not 100% set on Thermidor. May change my mind if I'm convinced enough. CrashBash (talk) 04:20, June 17, 2017 (UTC)
The wheels are an obvious target but Kadeena was quite slow if I remember rightly. Thermidor to be scratched and buffeted but wins by flip,flip, flipping away.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 05:58, June 17, 2017 (UTC)
I recall one of the earlier votes saying that TR2 has this competition wrapped up unless someone thinks Sabretooth has a way of actually winning this. Welp, if anyone does think that Sabretooth could beat TR2, now's your chance. I'm legitimately curious. Myself? Not convinced. I think TR2 will simply push and flip Sabretooth around the arena until it either breaks down, gets pitted or time runs out, either way resulting in a loss. CrashBash (talk) 04:20, June 17, 2017 (UTC)
Votes for Sabretooth
I'll be the brave soul to somehow find a way for Sabretooth to win this (it deserves at least one vote). Sabretooth's drum is very powerful we can all agree and facing TR2 head on is suicide. BUT the back end of TR2 or even the back corner/side can get hit, upon hitting it the robot could be lifted upwards. Not only that the but the back end is where the wheels are, if hit in the right place the wheel can get damaged. That's my vote for Sabretooth and fully understand TR2 winning a major majority here, but as I stated I'm giving Sabretooth at least one vote, after all it's not 100% impossible for the Sabretooth.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 05:56, June 17, 2017 (UTC)
I actually think that's front wedge of Sabretooth is lower than TR2's. At least from looking at these pictures. In that case,a frontal Attack should chew up that front scoop just enough to render it difficult for TR2 to get in underneath and flip From there, Sabretooth can toss it over from the sides or if TR2 fails a flip, Sabretooth can hit straight from the front and throw it over, possibly catching something in the process, perhaps nicking the CO2 bottle just enough to knock a regulator or valve loose for the robot to lose a lot more gas per flip than it should. I think from that first attack Sabretooth has it pretty much sewn up. RelicRaider (talk) 10:44, June 17, 2017 (UTC)
