Votes for Panzer Mk 4
- Whoops, totally missed the second round while I was at EGX 2014. I know Panic Attack is a big cut above Probophobia, but I still see a similar match. Panzer's speed will make it a very hard catch for Panic Attack, and that front blade is capable of getting underneath Panic Attack's skirts, if it doesn't just snap them. Although Panic Attack is bulky, Panzer Mk 4 is still capable of pushing it around, and if the welsh machine doesn't get a chance to lift Panzer, what can it do to win this match? ToastUltimatum 15:53, September 28, 2014 (UTC)
- To be fair though, with regards to that last bit ("If the welsh machine doesn't get a chance to lift Panzer, what can it do to win this match?"), you could say the same thing for Panzer, with regards to both getting under and pushing. I doubt the scoop is low enough to get under the skirts (The clearance on it looks quite suspect.), and with that in mind, if it tries to get side-on, it'll just drive over it instead of pushing. --GoldenFox93 (talk) 18:40, September 28, 2014 (UTC)
- PA just isn't fast enough to catch Panzer. That scoop is low and made to withstand smashing against things. I think it can smack PA's sides without riding over, and just push it around to control the match. RA2; aka Resetti's Replicas. (My Talk) 01:34, September 29, 2014 (UTC)
- Gotta agree with Resetti here. Panzer is too fast, torquey and can easily withstand whatever Panic Attack has to offer. Unless PA gets really lucky and hooks a wheelguard, I see Panzer winning this easily. Badnik96 (talk) 18:01, September 29, 2014 (UTC)
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Votes for Panic Attack (Extreme 2)
- This'll be a titanic matchup between two of the most competent machines in the wars. Overall though, I think Panic Attack has the edge. Its low profile makes it nigh-on impossible for a rear-hinged flipper to topple over, so it becomes a battle of pushing. In that fight, the forks are Panic Attack's greatest chance, and if Panic Attack can hook the wheel guards, it can overpower and pit Panzer. Matt
 Talk to me 14:03, September 28, 2014 (UTC)
- I would love to see this battle. Both bots were well driven and superbly made. Panzer has too many exposed bits, meaning Panic can grip and control the battle. Jimlaad43(talk) 14:15, September 28, 2014 (UTC)
- Damn it Jim. What has already been said. Sam (BAZINGA) 14:18, September 28, 2014 (UTC)
- Panzer is probably more manoeuvrable with a more powerful push, but it can't properly use it- if it gets side on to try and push Panzer's just going to ride up over the top. In contrast, Panic Attack can use the forks to hook a wheel guards and drag it to the pit, or push side on, or if it's lucky manage to flip Panzer. Combatwombat555 (talk) 14:31, September 28, 2014 (UTC)
- Two very powerful, expertly-built and expertly-driven machines in this Heat Final- had this happened in real life, it would've made for one hell of a fight. Between the two though, my edge goes to Panic Attack. It's much too low for Panzer to really flip or even really get purchase underneath with the scoop, and when it only needs one flip to put an opponent out of commission, it rarely fails. Even if it doesn't turn it over, there are still quite a few exposed gaps in Panzer's frame that the Welsh robot can hook into and most likely use to control or even Pit it. Well done to Panzer Mk4 for making it this far, but the combination of the Lifting Spikes and Kim Davies's driving will be too much for the Americans. --GoldenFox93 (talk) 14:43, September 28, 2014 (UTC)
- At this rate, from my end, it's going to sound like a recurring excuse to vote against it, but Panzer is very vulnerable particularly to axing, grappling and flipping because of the framework and large exposed wheels. I don't think the standard of the US machines could really exploit this, but a tentative and precision robot like Panic Attack is perfectly suited to use those forks to grapple and drag, failing that, it could try to use them to stab the tyres, they were sharp enough I reckon. Datovidny (talk) 18:17, September 28, 2014 (UTC)
- I don't think there's anything else I can realistically add here. CrashBash (talk) 23:20, September 28, 2014 (UTC)
- Panzer stands no chance against PA in my eyes. BizarroKing (talk) 01:18, September 29, 2014 (UTC)
- Panzer Mk4 might have the speed but it doesn't have a srimech or a lot of wheel protection. It's the Welsh machine for me. LiamBryant (talk) 14:45, 29th September 2014 (UTC)
- Panzer has superior speed and good control, but Panic Attack has the weaponry to grapple, lift or topple Panzer. ManUCrazy (talk) 23:49, September 30, 2014 (UTC)
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Talk to me 15:33, September 26, 2014 (UTC)