Votes for Chaos 2
- We did see the srimech as it transpires, and so I'll rework my reasoning. I'm still not convinced that Hypno-Disc will be able to counter the superior speed and control of Chaos 2.# If George Francis takes the right strategy, that is charge headlong at Hypno-Disc before it can spin up and flip it over, Hypno-Disc has little method of retaliation. By the time Chaos 2 runs out of gas, the bout will be over. Matt
 Talk to me 16:20, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
- Yup, I bet the Anti-Chaos 2 Club will be happy with this matchup. Still going to stand by the twice Champions, though- it's got the speed and far superior control behind it to stop the disc, and with HypnoDisc's vulnerability to being both turned over and thrown out (As we saw in Extreme 2.), as well as its questionable self-righting and how its weaponry becomes completely useless for several key seconds in which case, Chaos 2 will be able to prevent HypnoDisc from spinning up, turn it over, and dispatch it out of the arena. --GoldenFox93 (talk) 18:46, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
- I think people are over-rating Hypno-Disc just a whisker too much. Yes, it's beaten many good flippers, but Chaos 2, even at that time, was better than "good". I know some people have mentioned Bigger Brother, and how Hypno-Disc was beating it until the massive turnaround. Consider this - Bigger Brother kept reversing into it. By memory, it only tried to use its flipper on two occasions. Of course it was going to get wrecked. Some people have also mentioned that Chaos 2 couldn't flip 13 Black. Consider this - Razer was holding onto 13 Black at the time, making for an awkward weight AND angle. Chaos 2 almost always goes in flipper-first, and against a conventional robot like Hypno-Disc, in a conventional one-on-one battle, it should be able to get it over. Not only that, but George Francis was such a good driver, he could almost certainly capitalise on Hypno-Disc whilst it's self-righting. Maybe OOTA? CrashBash (talk) 18:51, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
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Votes for Hypno-Disc (Series 5)
- Hypno should have beaten Bigger Brother, who had just as powerful a flipper as Chaos, and stronger armour. Chaos never flipped 13 Black over, and was mauled by it, so I can see the same thing happening. Jimlaad43(talk) 15:57, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
- Just so you know- the only reason Chaos 2 did not succeed in flipping 13 Black was because it was being clamped onto by Razer whenever it attempted to- thus adding about an extra 100kg and an extremely awkward-to-flip shape. If Razer hadn't been there, and by extension had it not been for that incredibly unlucky shot later on, I have a hunch that Chaos 2 would've flipped it. --GoldenFox93 (talk) 23:49, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
- Hypno-Disc's srimech was used on at least one occasion, against Behemoth, and it self-righted pretty quickly, only about 2-3 seconds? Maybe Hypno-Disc will be flipped, but Chaos 2 managed it in Series 3 only after the disc had stopped and Hypno-Disc was stationary for the disc to start again. This time, with a reasonably effective srimech, Hypno-Disc looks like it should be able to weather the flips and whack the sides enough times to cause Chaos 2 to lock up again. If not, probably a win by the judges on damage. Combatwombat555 (talk) 16:05, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
- The first time they met, Hypnodisc had no srimech and wasn't working properly, having suffered gear problems during the fight with Steg. Without those problems, it should do enough damage to win. Drop Zone mk2 (talk) 16:44, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
- With a heavier disc and a srimech, Hypno-Disc will win this time by judges decision on damage or by rendering Chaos 2 immobile after putting deep gashes in the side. Sam (BAZINGA) 16:46, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
- The Series 5 Hypno-Disc has better teeth on its disc than the first one so I'd imagine if it hits Chaos 2 enough times, it'll immobilize it or win on points. LiamBryant (talk) 18:12, 3rd October 2014 (UTC)
- Chaos 2's armour was very weak for Series 6 standard. In fact, the entire body was so compact and old, it just can't stand up to a modern flywheel. A couple of solid hits from Hypno-Disc should render Chaos 2 unable to put up much of a fight. ToastUltimatum 17:29, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
- A scrimech and a much more powerful disc than it's 3rd Wars guise gives Hypno the nod for me. BizarroKing (talk) 18:15, October 3, 2014 (UTC)
- Hypno was better in just about every way by Series 5. Bigger disc, srimech, faster, more reliable. In Series 3, Chaos 2 was able to fearlessly stop the disc by ramming into it. I don't think that'll be well-advised to do here. RA2; aka Resetti's Replicas. (My Talk) 01:18, October 4, 2014 (UTC)
- Just to correct you Sonny, HypnoDisc was not faster even then. If I recall correctly, its top speed was only 10mph compared to Chaos 2's 12-20mph, and its steering would have been much worse due to the gyroscopic forces of the disc. Particularly with regards to that latter case- it's one thing if you are indeed faster, but without good traction or ability to have control, what good is it? --GoldenFox93 (talk) 01:31, October 4, 2014 (UTC)
- Its steering couldn't possibly have been worse in Series 5 than in that particular Series 3 fight, it could barely turn, and looked like it took some real higher functions just to go straight. Top speed is a deceptive metric anyway - in such an enclosed space, once you top 12mph, anything above is irrelevant. RA2; aka Resetti's Replicas. (My Talk) 03:56, October 4, 2014 (UTC)
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