Philipper 2 had an exceptional Dutch Series 2 campaign, winning the Belgian title and narrowly missing out on the Dutch crown following a gruelling match with PulverizeR. Now, with newfound confidence, Philipper 2 wants to become the champion of the UK scene. Nonetheless, it must be wary of Propeller-Head, who is dangerous with and without its bar spinner, becoming a Grand Finalist in Extreme Warriors: Season 2. So, LET THE WARS BEGIN!
Round 1
Philipper 2 (9) vs Derek 2 vs Aggrobot 3 vs Propeller-Head
Philipper 2 and Propeller-Head. The seed could be in trouble here, because I really do not trust those sides protecting Philipper 2's wheels from a Propeller-Head hit. Luckily for the seed, Philipper 2 at least can withstand hits internally. Derek 2 and Aggrobot 3, as we saw from their respective losses, could not. Henceforth, providing Philipper 2 is not unlucky, it should survive the Propeller-Head onslaught, unlike the others. SpaceManiac888(Talk) 08:39, July 21, 2020 (UTC)
Philipper 2 and Propeller-Head: I have new found respect for Derek! 2, that said it still broke down too easily. Philipper should be safe with its lifter and Propeller-Head is extremely aggressive.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 08:56, July 21, 2020 (UTC)
Philipper 2 and Propeller-Head. They just seem like the more reliable robots in these circumstances. CrashBash (talk) 09:36, July 21, 2020 (UTC)
Aggrobot 3 and Propeller-Head. Aggrobot's wedge might be useful for tipping Philipper over, and it's certainly a good shape to avoid taking too much damage from the other spinners. Philipper will flip Derek over, and Propeller-Head can tear the underside of it up when tipped over. Philipper's tall sides are much more juicy for Propeller-Head to aim at and damage than Aggrobot, and I can see the pair of them being able to team up and overwhelm the seed, causing it to either be tipped over and unable to right itself after being trashed, or to just lose on the judges. Jimlaad43(talk) 09:57, July 21, 2020 (UTC)
Philipper II and Propeller-Head. Both Aggrobot 3 and Derek 2 are going to be pressured into a KO here. Philipper will get Derek on its side, before a combined attack on Aggrobot 3 will take it out. Adster1005 09:57, July 21, 2020 (UTC)
Philipper 2 and Propeller-Head - A couple of very interesting heats here. Derek 2: The Derekoning actually had a pretty decent spinner, and given that Aggrobot 3 died in a single hit from Vader I could see it falling victim to a similar attack. Having said that, Derek also seems very vulnerable to getting flipped over by Philipper, or taking a good amount of damage from Propeller-Head and then getting flipped over. Combatwombat555 (talk) 15:31, July 21, 2020 (UTC)
Propeller-Head and Derek 2. Allow me to be the first vote for Derek 2! I think that the recent discovery of its attack on Behemoth is helping people come around on the machine. I think it's important to look at Derek 2 not from the wiki's "two-time battle loser" perspective, but rather from the roboteer's point of view. There is a reason it won a Best Engineered Award, that CNC outer shell is visually striking and the spinner had genuine promise which Behemoth would gladly tell you. The key player here is Propeller-Head and what it decides to do. I'm writing off Aggrobot due to its passiveness and vulnerability to hard knocks in Series 6 and will judge this purely on what I think Propeller-Head will do. For this we have two bits of evidence - one, the reluctance to take out spinners. Thinking back to the Heat Final between Propeller-Head and The Revolutionist, there was a shared sense of dismay that the two spinners had to take each other out, mainly voiced by Brian Nave but I don't doubt the feeling was mutual. We may not have taken it seriously before, but I think the CNC vert of Derek 2 will genuinely impress the Americans and help to form a pact. The opposite point of view is the desire to take out Philipper. Not only is it the seed and therefore the marked threat that the spinners will want to prove themselves against, it's also something they can't afford to ignore. Propeller-Head is no doubt aware of the time Philipper took out the US champion Panzer from behind, while Derek is completely susceptible to a flip. Both spinners will recognise the danger while wanting to put some slashes in the thin armour, and I genuinely think they'll conspire to take it out. TOAST 16:26, July 21, 2020 (UTC)
Can anyone cite me where it was discovered Derek 2 killed Behemoth’s side? I just rewatched the fight (mainly to see if Derek could self right at all, and no, it couldn’t) and yes, Derek gets a hit in on Behemoth’s side, but Behemoth does move forwards after that blow before turning. Disc-O-Inferno then hits the same side which is then clearly locked up. At least in the edit, it’s really unclear who did the damage but it looks more like a Disc-O KO to me. If anyone has any more evidence though I’ll gladly take it on board. :) RelicRaider (talk) 00:28, July 22, 2020 (UTC)
Philliper 2 and Derek 2. I too shall throw Derek 2 a bone here, mainly as I just can't trust Propeller-Head's blade not to break in some way should it come into contact with another spinner. Or get lifted slowly at just the wrong angle like Philliper 2 can. And Aggrobot we know can be immobilised by repeated knocks. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:31, July 21, 2020 (UTC)
Aggrobot 3 and Derek 2 - oh god, this is a bad vote, but this is also a cracking battle, so let's get stuck into it. I hate that I essentially keep putting forward Aggrobot propaganda again when I don't even like it outside of the hardox banter from Series 7, and even here I don't actually see it doing awfully move offensively. However, I do think its durability is always harshly criticised. Vader killed it in one go, but those kills happened to a lot of machines in the warzone, even the likes of Firestorm, Apollo, and so on. Propeller-Head is a decent spinner but I don't truly rate it that highly, and Aggrobot although will sustain some body damage will also keep ticking. I feel Aggrobot 3 and especially Philipper 2 will really nag away at Propeller-Head and then grind it down or get it over. Philipper 2 especially was not afraid of getting stuck in. Still, despite Philipper 2 proving critical in Propeller-Head's demise, I actually think Philipper 2 itself will then be in danger, with its slow turning susceptible to long, churning Derek 2 drives, which can cause important damage. Silly? Maybe. Hopeful? Definitely. But I think these two can do something here. NJGW (talk) 23:45, July 21, 2020 (UTC)
Philliper 2 and Propeller-Head. I still dom't trust in Derek 2's weapon and reliability while Aggrobot is a dead 'bot walking against a good spinner. Propeller-Head can KO Aggrobot in a few hits while Philliper pulls off a one-flip-and-done on Derek 2. --TheyCallMeDoot(*doot doot*) 19:03, July 22, 2020 (UTC)
Philipper 2 and Aggrobot 3 I think a case can be made for any of these four machines, but I’m backing the non spinners here. Derek 2’s spinner really wasn’t bad at all, in fact I could see it coming out better if its spinner collided with Propeller-Head’s. Propeller-Head has a high ground clearance absolutely everywhere, and Philipper 2 had a knack for unexpected KOs, against Panzer Mk 2 and Black Hole respectively. Aggrobot 3 was at least able to weather a couple of hits in its melee with 259, and is the most likely to survive an encounter with Philipper 2. Philipper 2 doesn’t have the best armour in the world, but it proved itself to be very durable regardless, and considering its success against the likes of Twister, Black Hole and Panzer Mk2, I can see Philipper 2 overturning Derek 2 and leaving it over, unlike what Behemoth did, and can catch Propeller-Head at an opportune moment to flip it over. Raz3r(talk) 23:12, July 22, 2020 (UTC)
Gravity and ICU. Well, we can eliminate Project Two: Hex'em. Seemed like a good design (world-class on RA2!!), but it was just too unreliable for it to work. A good shove from ICU will be enough for the knockout. As for the remaining three, The Termite is probably the weakest pusher here, and in a battle with two fairly solid but unspectacular pushers that won't break the other, its power issues will probably haunt it once more. SpaceManiac888(Talk) 08:39, July 21, 2020 (UTC)
Gravity and ICU: Gravity certainly dominates and I feel ICU will survive here, more so than Termite who might break down and well Project Two exists.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 08:58, July 21, 2020 (UTC)
Gravity and ICU. Yeah, we can get rid of Project Two. Under the circumstances, I see Termite being pressured into submission. CrashBash (talk) 09:37, July 21, 2020 (UTC)
Gravity and ICU. I can't disagree with what's said above. Project Two to evaporate quite quickly, and The Termite to have his stupid camber deposited in the pit. Jimlaad43(talk) 09:58, July 21, 2020 (UTC)
Gravity and ICU. Gravity to topple Project Two, and then both to pressure The Termite into a breakdown. Adster1005 10:02, July 21, 2020 (UTC)
Gravity and ICU - Nothing really to add to what's been said. Combatwombat555 (talk) 15:37, July 21, 2020 (UTC)
Gravity and Project Two: Hex'em. I'm going for the wildcard shout again. Now then, is Project Two in any way deserving of a win here? No, it's the worst in attendance among an already low bar. However, teamwork is going to be key again, and this is an even more likely alliance than my proposed Propeller-Head and Derek team. It's simple when you look at the timeline. This is Project Two, so what was Project One? Why, the predecessor to Gravity of course! Essentially, Gravity and Project Two come from two halves of a much bigger team, and WJ Dijkstra is very unlikely to take out the successor to his own robot when there's Brits and Americans to take out. Without the danger of Project Two being flipped by Gravity, it's quite welcome to bumble about while The Termite just burns out like it did in every fight ever. The one that will take some stopping is ICU, who is clearly the second-best in attendance. But can a fully concentrated Gravity take it out within five minutes, with backup from Project Two? Yes, I believe it can. TOAST 16:26, July 21, 2020 (UTC)
Gravity and I.C.U.. Sorry, can't give the underdog the call this time, the two obvious favourites comfortably capable of dominating both opponents. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:33, July 21, 2020 (UTC)
Gravity and Project Two: Hex'em - haha, I knew Toast would do this. So predictable, and yet I absolutely agree with him. NJGW (talk) 23:46, July 21, 2020 (UTC)
Gravity and ICU. No real reason to go against the popular choice. Project 2's awful reliability prohibits it from doing well while Termite won't be offensive enough to make it through a judges' decision. --TheyCallMeDoot(*doot doot*) 19:05, July 22, 2020 (UTC)
Gravity and ICU I don’t disagree with Toast and Nick that the two Dutch robots will gang up on the other two, but that being said, that doesn’t mean Project Two will survive. Many cite Gravity as the top dog in this melee, but I actually think ICU could put on a good display here. Its Series 6 melee proved it has good pushing power, it had reliable side srimechs (I can’t see Gravity even coming close to putting ICU on its back) and it has the most naturally aggressive weaponry. Project Two will cause a nuisance to aid Gravity early, but will not show enough of its own merit and will fall, while The Termite will be bullied by everyone. Raz3r(talk) 23:12, July 22, 2020 (UTC)
