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Tsunami had an excellent debut series, coming runners-up in the German series. Indeed, it looked like it was actually going to take the crown off Black Hole, before a late comeback enabled the spinner to outclass it. Tsunami now wants to surge onwards and become champion of the UK scene. It has some interesting competition though, with Extreme Warriors: Season 2 Annihilator champion Cyclone and a trio called √3² likely to provide some tough competition for the young German. So, LET THE WARS BEGIN!

Round 1

Tsunami (11) vs The Black Beast vs Joker vs Trackzilla

Tsunami		Votes Tsunami and Joker. Right, so Tsunami gets a pretty simple melee, with three machines that lack srimechs. And yes, I do know The Black Beast had a lifter, but it was so slow and weak that I highly doubt it would be capable of righting the machine. So, who goes through with the German runners-up? Not Trackzilla, whose high ground clearance and large size make it easy to flip. And The Black Beast was not really well-controlled and had a quite flippable shape too, with a lifter I doubt can effectively right the machine. Joker, despite losing every battle it competed in, should go through on the basis that weapon and its awkward shape makes it slightly tougher to flip than the others. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 08:39, July 21, 2020 (UTC) Tsunami and Trackzilla: Tsunami dominates here so who to survive? Well The Black Beast is weak and way too vulnerable whereas Joker is just way too high ad way too easy to flip. So why Trackzilla? Well to give it a bit of love, it was decent in Robotica and I feel if can dodge the flipper it should last longer than the other more slower and vulnerable, whilst also using the lifter to attack when it can. Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 09:03, July 21, 2020 (UTC) Tsunami and Trackzilla - Considering how little it took for Joker's link to be knocked out, I can't see it lasting. It's basically Tsunami's pick as to who goes out and I'm tempted to say it targets Black Beast first. CrashBash (talk) 09:48, July 21, 2020 (UTC) Tsunami and The Black Beast. Really it comes down to which of the three is most likely to self-right when flipped over. Sorry, least likely to be stuck upside-down. The Black Beast has a flipper itself, and should manage to get itself over and back on its wheels, long enough for Joker and Trackzilla to be counted out. Jimlaad43(talk) 10:01, July 21, 2020 (UTC) Tsunami and The Black Beast. Tsunami is getting all three over at some point. Black Beast will be the third machine over, placing second in the melee, and therefore going through alongside Tsunami. Adster1005 10:12, July 21, 2020 (UTC) Tsunami and Trackzilla. Welp, didn’t see the last fight was already over haha. Wasn’t Black Beast like.. basically Sater? The grand finalist who’s flipper never even moved let alone flipped another robot? Yeah, all three robots are probably going over but I trust Trackzilla to avoid this for the longest time. RelicRaider (talk) 12:25, July 21, 2020 (UTC) Tsunami and The Black Beast - If it was a just a melee between the three non-Tsunami machines, I'd give it to Trackzilla - the lifting arm wasn't impressive but besides that it was a decent performer in Robotica. With the German robot involved, though, Trackzilla seems very vulnerable to getting caught side-on and flipped. Joker's high ground clearance also makes it a target (although to be honest either Trackzilla or The Black Beast could quite easily get its link out anyway), and The Black Beast's slightly awkward shape and low front prongs make it just a bit more difficult to get over. Combatwombat555 (talk) 15:55, July 21, 2020 (UTC) Tsunami and The Black Beast. Oh, hey, its the one-flip-and-done olympics. This is all about who Tsunami targets first and I feel like the slow and plodding Trackzilla will be first to get the flip of death. I guess Joker is next because it somehow looks the less threatening of the two? I dunno, at least Black Beast seemed to have some potential. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 16:21, July 21, 2020 (UTC) Tsunami and The Black Beast. I like this melee, one which clearly puts Tsunami through and then gives us an interesting premise for the second pick. I don't doubt that Tsunami could beat The Black Beast within 30 seconds if it wanted to, but with at least a bit of speed on board, I think The Black Beast is in the best position to avoid Tsunami. Meanwhile, Trackzilla is the most tempting target with ground clearance from every angle. I would argue Trackzilla is the second-best robot here, but it's also the first to go. Joker meanwhile is likely to lose its link or get flipped over whether it actually tries to fight or not. Tsunami doesn't have a fellow German machine to form an alliance with, but I think they'd help the Dutch team before the Americans. Complete toss-up, but I think The Black Beast is our winner here. TOAST 16:31, July 21, 2020 (UTC) Tsunami and Joker. Tsunami doesn't know how effective Joker's disc is though, and will likely steer clear of it and go to the more obviously vulnerable Trackzilla and Black Beast first. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:35, July 21, 2020 (UTC) Tsunami and The Black Beast Tsunami can pick and choose from its victims here, and we could well end with three KOs. The question, then, is which one is KOed last? I don’t think it’ll be Joker, its link cost it too easily too often, and its spinner is extremely weak. Trackzilla is probably the second strongest robot on paper, but it’s also the most flippable, and the biggest target for Tsunami too. The Black Beast is by no means an impressive machine, but I think it’ll prove the most tricky and least tempting for Tsunami to flip over, so it’ll just survive. Raz3r(talk) 18:17, July 21, 2020 (UTC)
The Black Beast
Joker
Trackzilla
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The Hassocks Hog vs Cyclone (US) vs Major Tom vs √3²

The Hassocks Hog		Votes The Hassocks Hog and √3². Yup, time for another crazy theory of mine! So theoretically, Cyclone should dominate this, taking out three vulnerable machines. But remember how slow it was to get off the line? That's where I think The Hassocks Hog could perform a massive shock here. See, no one within the Annihilator realised that to defeat Cyclone, you need to defeat it ASAP, taking it out while it is barely moving (even The Brute in the end battle was too cautious in attacking Cyclone, contributing towards its loss). Only Probophobia realised this, defeating Cyclone with an excellent ambush. Now, The Hassocks Hog was plenty aggressive, and was not afraid in facing the best. Henceforth, I can see it too stunning Cyclone, probably not enough to take out the removable link, but enough for it to prevent Cyclone causing damage, allowing it to topple its foe! With Cyclone gone, it will result in a pretty boring match between the remaining opponents to be honest. Of the three, The Hassocks Hog has the flipper to score aggression points, √3² can push and ram, and Major Tom... honestly won't do much. Yeah, its disc was below average and it was not a great pusher. Henceforth, it will not do much, and with a pushable and flippable shape, will struggle against the remaining opposition here. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 08:39, July 21, 2020 (UTC) Cyclone and Major Tom. An out there vote, but none of these machines are well suited for dealing with Cyclone outside of a link-fluke, especially defensively. Both Hassock's Hog and Major Tom lost drive to one side under very minimal pressure and WDK is just all sorts of vulnerable - to the point I'm not even convinced it'll be able to have two parts survive. I'm picking Major Tom because, for what it's worth, it managed to tank at least some damage and didn't die super easily. CrashBash (talk) 09:46, July 21, 2020 (UTC) Cyclone and Major Tom. The flywheels here will cause havoc. It will take about two hits from Cyclone on the front of Hassocks Hog to disable the flipper, from which point the rest of the robots are all safe. We saw from Matilda how vulnerable the √3² robots are to big flywheels, so one of them is getting lobbed across the arena, if not out. Major Tom showed in the Annihilator that it is a pretty decent damage sponge, so it will go through on account of being able to survive hits from Cyclone that √3² and Hassocks Hog won't. Jimlaad43(talk) 10:03, July 21, 2020 (UTC) Cyclone and √3². I think something like a melee is where √3² will thrive. All it has to do is keep two parts out of trouble and let one part go on the attack, although all three probably will keep nagging away at Major Tom, and might be able to pin it in place so Cyclone can get a hit in, and maybe throw it over. Hassocks Hog will be pressured by the three and Cyclone, before it eventually gets KOed. Cyclone and √3² for me. Adster1005 10:12, July 21, 2020 (UTC) Cyclone and √3² - I like Space's theory, but I don't think that this set of opponents is quite able to close the gap that quickly and disrupt Cyclone in time. The Hassock's Hog might go for it but given that Spam took it out by running into its side I can't see it surviving Cyclone. √3² is awkward enough to attack that Major Tom becomes the next target - particularly if √3² is wedging underneath it and holding it in place - and Cyclone should send chunks of plastic flying. Combatwombat555 (talk) 16:01, July 21, 2020 (UTC) Major Tom and Cyclone. I think everyone knows about my irrational hatred for Root-Three-Squared and how I always want to get it out the picture, and here is no different. The Hassocks Hog was not the most reliable and Major Tom at least was somewhat able to survive and do stuff in its annihilator. Cyclone's the defining 'bot of this heat melee and it should have no issue ripping into Hassocks Hog and KO'ing it in a couple blows while √3² does absolutely nothing to assert itself aside from annoy. They'll be the next to get punted by Cyclone and Major Tom will win by ramming and dealing what minimal damage it can achieve with its own crappy flywheel. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 16:19, July 21, 2020 (UTC) Cyclone and The Hassocks Hog. Man, Cyclone is pretty much the nightmare opponent for √3² right? We already saw how badly these tiddly machines suffer against the vertical spinners of PulverizeR and Matilda, which does set up another OotA here potentially. √3² at least showed some good pinning strategy against PulverizeR, but the tracked Cyclone can just drive straight back off again! √3² have no business going anywhere near Cyclone at all, but in fairness Cyclone probably isn't quick enough to catch them. Still, I can't see Cyclone going after the flipper of The Hassocks Hog willingly, nor do I think The Hassocks Hog will dare take Cyclone on. After some quick attacks on Major Tom and √3² they should progress, but I would back √3² to progress over Major Tom if it came down to it. TOAST 16:36, July 21, 2020 (UTC) Major Tom and Cyclone: After some thought I've decided on these two. √3² is made of smaller robots that as we saw against PulveriseR, will lose badly, while Hassocks Hog is not the best in the reliability department. Major Tom maybe weak but as we saw during the annihilator it could last for a while, so it survives.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 16:58, July 21, 2020 (UTC) Cyclone and Major Tom. Similarly, and given its poor reliability, Cyclone will likely wish to steer clear of its fellow spinner, who it doesn't know the true effectiveness of, and go after the two more vulnerable to spinners first. THREE may well survive to a judges decision, but as at least one of it will likely be dead, it would likely be an easy call. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:37, July 21, 2020 (UTC) Cyclone and √3² √3² is certainly vulnerable to Cyclone, but I think in a melee environment it can steer clear of the sluggish vertical disc and target the others. I can see one of the trio being caught out perhaps, but not all of them. The Hassocks Hog is probably the most threatening to Cyclone, but it still has a relatively weak flipper, and I can’t see it throwing anything over. Eventually, Hassocks Hog will take too much damage from the spinner and fall. Major Tom may well have lasted through to the fourth round of the Annihilator, but what people do forget is that in the first couple of rounds, and in the Series 6 melee, it seemed to lose some sort of drive on one side at some point during the fight. Major Tom’s armour will be utterly shredded by Cyclone, disabling Major Tom’s spinner along the way in all likelihood. √3² To survive the onslaught from Cyclone while the other, more sluggish, bulkier targets will be taken out. Raz3r(talk) 18:17, July 21, 2020 (UTC)
Cyclone (US)
Major Tom
√3²
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