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Wild Thing came close to finally ending Chaos 2's impressive UK Series record, but just narrowly lost to the flipper on a Judges' decision. Similarly, it nearly defeated S3 in the Losers' Melee, but again came up short. Now, with an all-new design, Wild Thing is desperate to prove that it is a Grand Final-tier machine rather than a nearlybot. However, it has some decent competition in Ming 3, one half of the Nickelodeon Robot Wars International Tag Team Terror champions. So, LET THE WARS BEGIN!

Round 1

Wild Thing (17) vs W.A.S.P. vs Ming 3 vs Darkness

Wild Thing
Wild Thing 2 S6
Votes
  1. Wild Thing and Darkness. Man, this was tough, been back and forth on this for a while. So, W.A.S.P. is certainly going out, it died under mild pressure after all. The others, however, are all capable of putting on a great five-minute battle, with none of them capable of knocking out each other. So, who shall lose the Judges' decision. Now, the seed has the best defence, with internal wheels and secure weaponry, unlike Ming 3 and Darkness respectively. But while Ming 3 has exposed wheels, there are so many wheels it can crush on both opponents. Darkness meanwhile has the least secure weapons, but it is no slouch, being a very quick machine and a decent enough pusher. So, difficult one, this! But... I think Ming 3 is in the most trouble here. While Razer did defeat Wild Thing, it was by no means an easy victory for the crusher, and Ming 3 is nowhere close to the league Razer is in. Additionally, Darkness will probably just slide off Ming 3's small wedge, being far too quick to properly trap. Wild Thing and Darkness meanwhile can at least slam and push, causing minor damage but more importantly gain strong aggression points. Plus, I feel the latter is the most likely to take out W.A.S.P., giving it the edge. Henceforth, Ming 3 needs an exceptional crush to turn the tide, and I just do not see that happening. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 08:31, August 2, 2020 (UTC)
  2. Wild Thing and Ming 3 - W.A.S.P. is out that's a given but the other three are hard to decide. I may not be a big Ming fan but I actually thing the claw and wedge will do it good here against Darkness. Darkness looks way too vulnerable to a disc/ramming attack from Wild Thing (look at those wheels man!) or even the claw crushing overhead from Ming 3 should deliver, or at least try to.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 08:35, August 2, 2020 (UTC)
  3. Ming III and Wild Thing. It's Andrew Cotterell and Ming 3 who are the key players for me. Wild Thing had enough trouble getting grabbed by The Stag, I don't doubt the ability of Ming III who never shied away from the bigger threats to just get in there and hold it around. I nearly voted Ming III and Darkness through on this account, but I need the security that top player Ming won't fall in the first round just because I also voted for its competition. I'll say Darkness' weapon falling off is somehow attributed to Wild Thing's disc. TOAST 10:33, August 2, 2020 (UTC)
  4. Wild Thing II & Ming III. Wild Thing II resilient enough to keep going throughout the melee, and Ming III can cause enough damage to both W.A.S.P. and Darkness to join Wild Thing II on a damage-based Judges' Decision. Adster1005 11:59, August 2, 2020 (UTC)
  5. Wild Thing and Ming 3 - It'll be a good tussle between three of these machines (sorry W.A.S.P.), but Darkness seems most vulnerable. Those front discs fell off repeatedly, which Wild Thing should be able to repeat, and whilst it might be reasonably slippery to grab hold of I can still see Andrew Cotteril targeting the American robot over Wild Thing, and eventually getting a grip. Combatwombat555 (talk) 16:46, August 2, 2020 (UTC)
  6. Wild Thing 2 and Ming 3. I feel like saying this will be a simple fight would be a discredit to Darkness given it was a dogged little thing...but it's too outclassed here. CrashBash (talk) 16:51, August 2, 2020 (UTC)
  7. 'Wild Thing 2 and Ming 3 - Darkness will try its hardest, but these two will prove the most competent throughout. Think Ming 3 will complete the best attacks overall too. NJGW (talk) 17:46, August 2, 2020 (UTC)
  8. Wild Thing and Ming 3. Yep, going with the crowd. W.A.S.P. is perfect for Ming 3 to do a Razer on, and Darkness' exposed tyres will be an easy target for both opponents' weapons. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:54, August 2, 2020 (UTC)
  9. Wild Thing and Ming 3. W.A.S.P. is getting destroyed and so is Darkness. Wild Thing and Ming 2 have vaguely damaging weapons, but both the others are flimsy enough that they'll be enough. Jimlaad43(talk) 20:19, August 2, 2020 (UTC)
W.A.S.P.
WASP
Ming 3
Ming 3
Darkness
Darkness 2002
Results Qualified: Wild Thing and Ming 3 Score: 9-0-8-1

Sumpthing vs Comengetorix vs Spirit of Scorpion vs Sir Force A Lot

Sumpthing
Sumpthing S6
Votes
  1. Comengetorix and Sir Force A Lot. Damn, Sumpthing is going out in Round 1, once again. But yeah, it is facing two decent spinners and Comengetorix, making it unlikely to survive long-term. As for the remaining three, I am highly impressed by Sir Force A Lot. It was really, really unlucky to have gone out in that melee, because while it suffered damage against Conquering Clown 2 and Shunt, it survived and dealt just as much back to the former. So while Spirit of Scorpion can cause problems for Sir Force A Lot, I feel the latter's pushes and slams should cause enough havoc to take out the former, who died under mild pressure in that Series 6 melee as we know. Comengetorix will be in the action, it being able to survive everything Warhog and Hydra could inflict on it should make it the most likely to survive Sir Force A Lot's onslaught, and perhaps help team with it to eliminate Spirit of Scorpion. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 08:31, August 2, 2020 (UTC)
  2. Comengetorix and Sir Force A Lot - As many of you know I have huge respect for Comegetorix and it is a robot that could fight really well, so here, it is through easily. But who also goes through? Well, Sumpthing tended to die either by its own accord or by an opponent. Spirit of Scorpion isn't bad, but as we saw in its melee, it was somewhat ponderous and didn't seem aggressive. So it's Sir Force A Lot for me.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 08:53, August 2, 2020 (UTC)
  3. Sir Force A Lot and Spirit of Scorpion. Alright, so Sumpthing and Spirit of Scorpion broke down in their Series 6 melees, but are we really counting on Comengetorix to not do the same? Comengetorix was really put under no pressure in the S.M.I.D.S.Y. classic while the other two here came under more serious fire. The disc of Spirit of Scorpion should make a genuine impact to carry it through. TOAST 10:36, August 2, 2020 (UTC)
  4. Comengetorix and Spirit of Scorpion. I really want to put Sumpthing through, especially after watching it in it's Extreme Mayhem. However, I feel it'll struggle here, maybe getting knocked out or pitted, and it's going to close be the other three, but I feel Comengetorix getting some lifts and axe blows in, and Spirit of Scorpion can get its disc and some aggressive drives in order to outweigh the damage Sir Force A Lot can do. Adster1005 11:59, August 2, 2020 (UTC)
  5. Comengetorix and Sir Force A Lot. Sumpthing is still just as much canon-fodder as ever, but the other three have their own strengths. However, I just can't trust Spirit of Scorpion. For a robot with as deadly a disc as it was supposed to have, its reliability issues are still clear, being unable to take out Barbaric Response without dying itself. Comengetorix and Sir Force A Lot have powered on through other comparable small spinners before. CrashBash (talk) 15:22, August 2, 2020 (UTC)
  6. Sir Force A Lot and Spirit of Scorpion - yep, I'm not convinced by Comengetorix either. It basically limped its way throughout its Round 2 battle. Sir Force A Lot to shunt anybody and everybody but will find more joy with the less damaging ones, while Spirit of Scorpion will trundle around. Sad, but I won't factor its disc into play really. NJGW (talk) 17:48, August 2, 2020 (UTC)
  7. Comengetorix and Spirit of Scorpion. Sumpthing vulnerable to all three opponents, Comengetorix had fixed most of its gremlins by now, and Spirit of Scorpion's weapon more capable of causing decisive damage to Sir Force A Lot than vice versa. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:56, August 2, 2020 (UTC)
  8. Comengetorix and Sir Force A Lot for the same reasons other's have voted for these two. Jimlaad43(talk) 20:21, August 2, 2020 (UTC)
  9. Sir Force A Lot and Spirit of Scorpion - Spirit of Scorpion's disc wasn't quite the beast of Series 7, but I can't see Comengetorix's weaponry doing more than it. Comengetorix was either poorly driven or seemed to have some sort of control issues in its melee - careening across the arena, pinning itself to the wall, and very nearly pitting itself - and Sir Force A Lot and Spirit of Scorpion should both be able to take advantage and tear up the relatively weak armour. Sumpthing is also in the arena. Combatwombat555 (talk) 22:40, August 2, 2020 (UTC)
  10. Sir Force A Lot and Spirit of Scorpion - if I remember correctly, Comengetorix did suffer some control problems in the melee. I think it got stuck in reverse hence the loop around the pit. No person in control would’ve so confidently reversed and carried on driving when stuck on the edge like that. Similar to Edge Hog in its series 6 melee, getting stuck in reverse after a hit from Matilda. Sir Force A Lot is likely to be the SMIDSY of this fight, and I think the potential danger of Scorpion’s disc is likely to ward it away from them. Expect to see Sumpthing most likely kill itself, and Comengetorix presumably to end up in the pit. RelicRaider (talk) 04:17, August 3, 2020 (UTC)
Comengetorix
Comengetorix
Spirit of Scorpion
Spirit of Scorpion
Sir Force A Lot
Sir Force A Lot
Results Qualified: Comengetorix and Sir Force A Lot Score: 0-6-6-8 (Judges' decision 2-2 (Adster voted for both); Commentator's vote was for Comengetorix)

Round 2

Wild Thing (17) vs Comengetorix

Wild Thing Comengetorix
Wild Thing 2 S6
Comengetorix
Votes for Wild Thing
  1. Wild Thing II was constantly aggressive, I feel like it can do enough by driving into Comengetorix into doing small scratches. Wild Thing kept constantly going in against 259, and I think any lifts Comengetorix will do will be outdone by the scratches done by Wild Thing II. Adster1005 09:38, August 4, 2020 (UTC)
  2. Dantomkia showed that Wild Thing's ground clearance can be exploited easily, but Comengetorix is not on the level of Dantomkia at all. Wild Thing could probably do a little bit of damage to the sides of Comengetorix, but it should aim to repeat its Vader trick and get the disc wedged in the sides. Do that, score damage points and begin shoving Comengetorix about for some easy points. Jimlaad43(talk) 09:50, August 4, 2020 (UTC)
  3. Sure, Comengetorix could easily get underneath Wild Thing, but given how inconsistent Comengetorix was at simply driving properly, I don't think that'll be an issue. Wild Thing to simply get to the sides and nag away at Comengetorix. No knockout, but Wild Thing takes the judges decision. Also, I would have voted for Wild Thing over Scorpion for similar reasons. CrashBash (talk) 10:04, August 4, 2020 (UTC)
  4. Oof, Spirit of Scorpion falls on a commentator's vote. I actually think it had a decent shot at beating Wild Thing too, but I'm less confident in Comengetorix. I'd back it if it worked properly, the wedge and dual weaponry should be plenty enough to deal with this version of Wild Thing, but we never saw that flash of potential again after Vercingetorix in Series 4. The Series 6 version of Comengetorix was better than the Extreme 1 version but still not enough. TOAST 10:45, August 4, 2020 (UTC)
  5. I trust Comengetorix to go the distance here, the S6 robot was definitely better and more reliable than in Ex2, but Wild Thing is well driven enough, not to mention quicker, and can so avoid getting flipped and axed and use its blade to excellent effect. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:30, August 4, 2020 (UTC)
  6. Ok so I thought about it and Wild Thing gets my vote. Comengetorix, had it been a more aggressive and reliable robot, would win easily, Hell if this were a Ragnabots I'd argue Mortis would have a chance! Wild Thing's weapon sucks, it broke down easily and barely caused any damage after its impact (yes I am aware of Vader's final match) but really it can win without the rather useless and unreliable blade by ramming and having good control throughout, constantly annoying Comengetorix as best it can. It'll go to a JD but Wild Thing, minus the weapon, wins.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 16:20, August 5, 2020 (UTC)
  7. It's annoying, cause Comengetorix was almost a good machine. It's got the tried-and-tested lifter/axe combination, decent speed, a good wedge, but it's just lacking. I mean, we saw in a fight between two similar-on-paper machines that Hydra dominated it - and I would back Hydra here, but Comengetorix never seemed to be driven too well, the armour showed damage easily, the lifter really seemed to struggle to lift other robots, the bladed axe didn't seem to do much damage... All of which will cost it against a tenacious and well-controlled opponent like Wild Thing. Combatwombat555 (talk) 19:10, August 5, 2020 (UTC)
  8. Wild Thing is driven far better, and while its weaponry wasn’t the best, it was dogged edgy aggressive in pretty much every fight it was in. I can see it causing some minor damage to the sides, dominate the general pace of the fight and comfortably win the judges decision. Raz3r(talk) 21:40, August 5, 2020 (UTC)
  9. Design wise, Comengetorix should be handily-equipped for this matchup, but I just do not trust it across a whole fight. Wild Thing will be consistent and push hard during Comengetorix's weaker spells. NJGW (talk) 03:42, August 6, 2020 (UTC)
Votes for Comengetorix
  1. Judging Series 6 Wild Thing is very difficult. Yes, it is arguably one of the best anti-spinner designs of all-time, but does this not really translate well in a battle against Comengetorix. Its agile, sure, but it needs to combine this with either great pushing power or damage potential. Its pushing power really depended on attaching its disc onto its opponents, which it only did against Vader. As for the disc itself, I just don't have anything positive to say about it. It wasn't damaging (in terms of either power like 259 or ruthless aggression like Pussycat), and as we saw, was capable of being disabled by 259. Then, we have the elephant in the room, the high ground clearance overall. Wild Thing is just a really strange beast to me, decent against spinners, perhaps a downgrade to everything else, including against Comengetorix. Indeed, I suspect a few axe blows in the right places should give it the damage points at the very least. And perhaps more importantly, the wedge can easily scoop up Wild Thing, enabling it to trouble its foe with some well-timed attacks. While Nick Adams is a great driver, like Kim Davies, he can only do so much. And I don't think Wild Thing has the capabilities to really trouble its foe here, causing its downfall. If only its disc had the attributes of either an S3 or a Pussycat... then it would be the final piece that would make Wild Thing much better than it was. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 09:17, August 4, 2020 (UTC)
Winner: Wild Thing (9-1)

Ming 3 vs Sir Force A Lot

Ming 3 Sir Force A Lot
Ming 3
Sir Force A Lot
Votes for Ming 3
  1. You know what, again I'm voting for Ming 3, it's the perfect shape and weaponry to tackle Sir Force A Lot and can easily scoop up that high ground clearance and then crush the wheels or armour very easily.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 09:23, August 4, 2020 (UTC)
  2. I reckon Ming III can get at the wheels and the body to secure a knockout on Sir Force A Lot. Adster1005 09:51, August 4, 2020 (UTC)
  3. With all due respect, I can't see Force A Lot causing much damage at all to Ming's wheels. It was primarily a push-bot first and foremost. It could certainly control Ming if it got to the sides, but if Ming grabs hold of it, it could be in serious trouble. I'm voting for Ming because I can see it doing something more critical. CrashBash (talk) 10:14, August 4, 2020 (UTC)
  4. First of all, I've seen an exposed wheels argument, so let's quash that quickly. I used to be a little disappointed with Supernova vs Ming III because Supernova couldn't inflict the same level of damage to Ming's wheels that Hypno-Disc caused. I foolishly blamed this on Supernova being weaker, failing to consider that Ming's wheels could have just been... improved? Indeed they were, this was the most significant change for Ming III in Series 6. No longer were the wheels simply attached to the outside, they were reinforced and built with the idea of withstanding a hit in mind. Supernova was never pulling them off, it could only try to damage them directly. They don't "pop", they aren't inflatable. In fact, Supernova's actual KO was caused by directly hitting the side of Ming and bashing a motor powering the wheel it was chewing up. Sir Force A Lot doesn't have nearly the power of Hypno-Disc or Supernova and it just won't knock Ming III out. The ground clearance on Sir Force A Lot is extremely high and Ming will willingly slide under it and initiate some long pinches to run down the timer. Will it cause much damage? Probably not, but it will be commanding the battle regardless. Ming III is an undefeated robot in the US Robot Wars canon, and it won't be falling to the American machine today! TOAST 10:46, August 4, 2020 (UTC)
  5. Yeah, I'm inclined to think what happened to Ming 3's wheels in Ex1 was a one off, and that they fixed them up a bit afterwards to make them less vulnerable to powerful spinners. Otherwise, as Toast says, they'd have come off against Supernova. Sir Force A Lot, meanwhile, tucks perfectly under Ming's beak and can be easily grabbed and pitted. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:33, August 4, 2020 (UTC)
  6. Nothing really to add to what's already been said. We've got the shock of Shredder being a potential semi-finalist in the other heat, but could Ming 3 be one? Combatwombat555 (talk) 19:14, August 5, 2020 (UTC)
  7. Sir Force A Lot doesn’t have the force to damage Ming 3’s Wheels the way Hypno-Disc or Supernova did. Ming 3 won’t cause damage either, but I expect it to grapple its opponent well enough. SFAL also has some big ground clearance, and Ming 3 was controlled well enough that it’ll be able to exploit that. Raz3r(talk) 21:40, August 5, 2020 (UTC)
  8. Ming 3 is a genuinely tidy machine. It's a shame it faced such damaging opponents in its two UK series, because I would fancy it to beat a lot of normal Round 2 machines. Here, its balanced control and design should see it through to victory. NJGW (talk) 03:44, August 6, 2020 (UTC)
Votes for Sir Force A Lot
  1. Hmm, it depends on whether Sir Force A Lot can dodge Ming 3's initial charge, because I do fear that the crusher will easily pierce that light armour. However, considering how Ming 3 immediately let Supernova attack its wheel, and how that attack ruined the crusher's chances, I am fairly confident Sir Force A Lot will win this important first clash. If it sufficiently damages one wheel, it has an easier chance of damaging the other, enabling the American machine to control the battle from there. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 09:17, August 4, 2020 (UTC)
  2. Ming's ridiculously exposed wheels are going to be the downfall of it. I was planning to vote for Ming to exploit the mega ground clearance of SFAL, but in reality I can just see the shreddy spinners at the front tearing into the tyres of Ming and popping them. Jimlaad43(talk) 09:54, August 4, 2020 (UTC)
Winner: Ming 3 (8-2)

Heat Final

Wild Thing (17) vs Ming 3

Wild Thing Ming 3
Wild Thing 2 S6
Ming 3
Votes for Wild Thing
  1. We can't use much from Razer's win against Wild Thing, true, but we can use something from Wild Thing's loss to Razer. I severely encourage anyone who hasn't to watch that fight again - Wild Thing, despite being severely outclassed, did not make the win easy for Razer (because it's Wild Thing, of course it didn't). It was able to keep Razer at bay for quite some time and continually grind at it, oftentimes completely avoiding the crusher until Razer outwedged it and outdrove it. Now, keep in mind, Ming isn't as well driven, isn't as precise, the crusher's reach seems questionable at best AND it has such a long and narrow base...and suddenly we've got a match where Wild Thing can basically repeat what it did against Razer, but have less of a chance of getting crushed in return. Basically, I see Wild Thing nagging away at Ming and ultimately netting a win because any clamps Ming does get are going to be minimal at best. Remember, Steg-O-Saw-Us beat Gravedigger because it was able to get constant little attacks to outweigh Gravedigger's two big ones. CrashBash (talk) 09:02, August 6, 2020 (UTC)
Votes for Ming 3
  1. I doubt we can use much from Razer's win against Wild Thing. I mean, it's Razer, it just excels all other crushers by a country mile. But that said, there were some areas that Razer crushed which showed Wild Thing's armour was not really as strong as it appeared. Ming 3 can at the very least crush those vulnerable areas to score notable damage points. And if we are saying that Sir Force A Lot cannot damage Ming 3's wheels, Wild Thing's disc won't either, it just lacks the bite of its fellow spinners. Henceforth, unless Wild Thing can continually aim for the wheels in order to score aggression and control points, I do feel that Ming 3 should hold the advantage of causing more notable damage, while also being able to pin its foe down for a few moments too, wasting valuable time. Ming 3 to win the Judges' decision. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 08:38, August 6, 2020 (UTC)
  2. Honestly quite a clear win for the unseeded Ming III in my opinion. We've already stressed the limitations of Ming III, its lineac crusher boasted very little damage output compared to the proper crushers and the wheels, although much more durable now and no longer an instant KO option, will still bear visible damage. But now it's time to talk about the strengths. I'm not going to pretend Ming III will give us a display equal to Razer vs Wild Thing, but it was very clear that as soon as Wild Thing went on that wedge, there was nothing it could do. Ming III's bite won't cause the damage that Razer did, but its quick-action crusher will still be able to replicate the grabbing. Ming will hold Wild Thing for as long as it's allowed too, and will attempt to earn more points by targeting Wild Thing's wheels from above. The little disc of Wild Thing offers little in retaliation and I'm not prepared to back it because of experience (which Ming also has) or the standard Wild Thing always overcomes the odds theory. With such a high ground clearance and no wedge or major weapon, Wild Thing will sincerely struggle when entire chunks of the fight are taken away by Ming III holding and pushing it about. The undefeated Nickelodeon machine keeps the streak going in its campaign to represent the USA(!) TOAST 08:51, August 6, 2020 (UTC)
  3. TBH I'll back that. Will Wild Thing go from finalist to back-to-its-regular cursed position unable to escape the heats? Jimlaad43(talk) 08:53, August 6, 2020 (UTC)
Winner:
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