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Round 1

Oblark vs Bolt from the Blue

Oblark	Bolt from the Blue
Votes What an opener right guys? Neither robots can use their weapons too much in these fights (I tend to vote like these robots fight 100 times and work out who wins what amount), with Oblark's lifter snapping off in all of its fights, and BftB apparently not having many flips in it. BftB would still have their wedge however, and I reckon they would win more often than not. It would just be really, really dull. Bolt from the Blue, 65/35 ThatRedOtter 20:47, 29 April 2021 (UTC) Oblark 70-30. The problem with Bolt from the Blue was that it was so dull when it attacked that even a few light shoves from Firestorm 2 were enough for the latter to win. Oblark's lifter is too damn powerful for its own good, but hey, it has an axe that can at least look aggressive and score all the damage points here. Oblark more likely to win this one. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 21:08, 29 April 2021 (UTC) Do the votes have to be in multiples of 5? If not, Oblark 69/31. As such, Oblark is quicker, has more potent weapons and can be mostly more interesting in the fight. Firestorm still beat BFTB even if the battle was dull, but can Oblark definitely survive or not avoid being pitted or something? I dunno if that sentence made sense from what it was supposed to be initially, but Oblark is better, but not guaranteed to win. Jimlaad43 21:41, 29 April 2021 (UTC) Yes, votes have to be in multiples of 5. It just makes the calculating process easier. ThatRedOtter 22:33, 29 April 2021 (UTC) 70/30. Jimlaad43 11:18, 30 April 2021 (UTC) 65/35 Oblark. This should be a very dull fight, with both machines largely static. Oblark's axe will be the only weapon managing to score points. It's not out of the question for Oblark to completely do itself in, but overall a safe but dull axe win should be the case. NJGW (talk) 22:48, 29 April 2021 (UTC) Not exactly the most exciting fight, but Oblark probably has the more useful weapon with its axe, so I'm gonna say it wins 70/30, with BFTB largely getting a chance through Oblark's general fragility. Also, I don't know if this was intended or not, but it'd be cool to see a little fight synopsis at the end of the round...especially if it's one where a 95/5 robot ends up losing. It'd be hilarious to see a reason why Carbide would lose to Piece De Resistance, for example. CrashBash (talk) 04:02, 30 April 2021 (UTC) What a fight to start off with...Oblark - 65/35 Oblark at least has the flipper/axe combo while BftB is slow and most likely unable to do much here, slow and stale fight but Oblark scrapes through.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 06:23, 30 April 2021 (UTC) 60/40 Bolt from the Blue, Oblark might land some axe shots but at some point it's just gonna break its own flipper (that was clearly no fluke), so after a bit of mild wedging, Bolt from the Blue this time scrapes the controversial decision on damage. TOAST 10:52, 30 April 2021 (UTC) 60-40 Oblark Oblark has the axe which will be able to do a bit more than BFTB, even if it is just "aggression". Adster1005 13:00, 30 April 2021 (UTC) A nice, tough first fight to start things off, and I'm gonna go controversial from the off and go 60/40 Bolt from the Blue. I say this because while BftB has got only 6 flips, its gonna be a total nightmare for Oblark to get around and flip over. The worse part for Oblark is that the weapons are prone to snapping off, so once that happens, all BftB needs to do is get a flip over when the weapons are dead to get a win by KO. Saying that, though, it might end up winning on the basis of being more aggressive. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 13:39, 30 April 2021 (UTC) 60/40 Bolt from the Blue - Not an exciting fight to start with, but a tough one. Oblark's got the better weaponry, and some axe blows will help it on aggression, but it honestly seemed to struggle to manoeuvre. Bolt from the Blue at least had decent mobility, and whilst it might struggle to do much more than just wedge underneath that's probably more than Oblark will manage. Combatwombat555 (talk) 16:34, 30 April 2021 (UTC) OK, never participated in this sort of tournament before, but I think I can see how it works: award both robots a multiple of 5, based on how likely you think they are to win, and they must add up to 100? In that case, Oblark 55-45, as its axe blows might just cause enough minor aggression to secure a very narrow judges decision. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:47, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
Oblark score: 605	Bolt from the Blue score: 495
Winner: Oblark (1050)

Pussycat vs Sting 2

Pussycat	Sting 2
Votes And we move from a dull fight to a depressingly clean cut one. There's good stuff here honest. Only reason this isn't 100/0 is because 95/5 is the furthest you can go in a robots favour. Have to keep it interesting somehow. Pussycat, 95/5 ThatRedOtter 20:47, 29 April 2021 (UTC) Pussycat 95-5. Not much to say here, Sting 2 is ripe for being cut open here. That said, Pussycat perhaps could lose its disc and fall into the Pit, you know. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 21:08, 29 April 2021 (UTC) Pussycat 95-5. Absolute obliteration from the Big Kitty. Jimlaad43 21:42, 29 April 2021 (UTC) 95/5 Pussycat. This is a prime Pussycat target: a slow machine with bits to chew into. Pussycat itself is very reliable too, which downgrades Sting's hopes of gaining an extra 5 percent even more. NJGW (talk) 22:50, 29 April 2021 (UTC) Yeah, this should be an easy 95/5 for Pussycat. CrashBash (talk) 04:03, 30 April 2021 (UTC) Yep. Pussycat - 95/5 Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 06:24, 30 April 2021 (UTC) 95-5 Pussycat. An early tournament favourite, perhaps. TOAST 10:53, 30 April 2021 (UTC) 95-5 Pussycat. Yeah Pussycat to take this rather easily. Adster1005 13:00, 30 April 2021 (UTC) 95/5 Pussycat. There's minimal chance here for Sting 2 to advance. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 13:40, 30 April 2021 (UTC) 95/5 Pussycat - Do cats eat scorpions? It'll cut this one up, at least. Combatwombat555 (talk) 16:35, 30 April 2021 (UTC) Pussycat 95-5. No discussion here. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:48, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
Pussycat score: 1045	Sting 2 score: 55
Winner: Pussycat (837)

Napalm vs Eric

Napalm	Eric
Votes I reckon Eric is going to get a large bulk of wins here, but Napalm is known for trundling along through bad situations in fights, and I think it does something that causes Eric to break down or tip itself over a few times. Eric, 90/10 ThatRedOtter 20:47, 29 April 2021 (UTC) Eric 60-40. Yeah, Eric has the better weapon, and I do think it will be the deciding factor for the most part. That said, let's not underrate Napalm's ability to remain in there, achieving some good pushes if Eric misses a flip, as well as scoring the damage points through some axe blows. It won't be enough to beat Eric, but it will give it a run for its money. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 21:08, 29 April 2021 (UTC) Napalm 55-45. This will be close, but I don't trust Eric's lifter to have a chance of getting a good grip under the oddly shaped Napalm enough to tip it over. Napalm can drive back aggressively with some side slams to get the better of Eric. It'll be close, but Napalm's. Jimlaad43 22:00, 29 April 2021 (UTC) 70/30 Eric. Napalm's lack of baseplate and generally gangly chassis is going to make Eric's task a bit harder. Having said that, Eric is very low, and its weapon lifts up high. Eventually, Napalm is likely to be rolled over, against the wall, or into the CPZ where the House Robots finish it. This isn't a complete dead match up, with Napalm always able to trundle along if Eric doesn't get the killer flip in, but even then Napalm will likely struggle for points. NJGW (talk) 22:53, 29 April 2021 (UTC) As much as I'd like to give Napalm the edge...and I fully expect it to keep fighting and be on the offensive (I mean, it did with Steg-O-Saw-Us), I do think Eric has the more effective weapon. I have to give it a 60/40 because I don't see it flipping Napalm over. CrashBash (talk) 04:05, 30 April 2021 (UTC) Curious why we're using the Series 3 Napalm and not Series 5's. Anyways, Eric - 75/25 has the better armour, weaponry and will most likely get the flip/kill on Napalm.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 06:27, 30 April 2021 (UTC) Napalm and Napalm 2 are different robots, and were separated on the Ragnabot 3 list, where Napalm was specified as the Series 3 version. Jimlaad43 06:41, 30 April 2021 (UTC) Ah okay.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 13:26, 30 April 2021 (UTC) 75/25 Eric. I'd probably back Napalm II, but with this older version, Eric will just get entirely stuck under the heaving thing and nibble away with its lifter, maybe even biting a wire or two. But the visible flexing from Napalm as it's lifted up (albeit not over) will be telling in a judges' decision, nor is there anything to substantiate a random breakdown from Eric (even Gabriel didn't finish it off for a fair while) TOAST 10:55, 30 April 2021 (UTC) 55-45 Eric I honestly don't know on this, Eric can get the lifter in and then drag Napalm round for a bit, Napalm might be able to get a good drive in. This definitely would have been an interesting fight. Adster1005 13:00, 30 April 2021 (UTC) 85/15 Eric. I think people need to remember that Napalm's wins weren't exactly against the most competent of machines. Sure, it will still stay aggressive and nail attacks that may swing a fight rarely in its favour, but most of the 'bots it fought were either absurdly slow or killed off through... er, other means. Eric's relatively competent despite a similar fight winning quality and can more easily outmuscle the flimsy scrap heap that is Napalm to win either through more consistent aggression or a lucky... say it with me, "one-flip-and-done". --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 13:47, 30 April 2021 (UTC) 80/20 Eric - I can see Eric getting the flip in, but even if it doesn't its wedge is much lower than Napalm's, merely lifting it might be enough to break pieces off, and Napalm's mandibles aren't exactly threatening critical damage in response. Napalm will hang in there though. Combatwombat555 (talk) 16:44, 30 April 2021 (UTC) Eric 90-10. Most times, it'd be able to topple Napalm. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:49, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
Napalm score: 315	Eric score: 785
Winner: Eric (543)

Saw Point (4) vs Rabid M8

Saw Point (4)	Rabid M8
Votes I live to see Rabid cave in one of the wheels with a perfect strike, and that is how I see most of the fights going. However, I do think if they drive over Rabid enough times, Saw Point will snipe something important and get a few wins in a hilariously dumb fashion. Rabid m8, 90/10 Rabid M8 95-5. A shame, because I do rate Saw Point somewhat, but even if Rabid M8's wheels are somewhat vulnerable, Saw Point is a tad too fragile to resist being whacked at. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 21:08, 29 April 2021 (UTC) 90/10 Rabid M8 - really weird one, because Rabid M8 is not a potent machine against good or bad machines, so giving it a near whitewash feels awkward. Having said that, Sawpoint will have a horrible time asserting itself too. Who knows though, if it keeps moving forwards and pushing Rabid M8 around the arena while the Portuguese bot continuously spins, Sawpoint could eek out some points for itself. NJGW (talk) 22:56, 29 April 2021 (UTC) Rabid EM-ATE (still annoyed they didn't play the "Mate" angle here) may be a fodderbot, but it's still a reboot fodderbot, so most likely it'll get a 95/5 success rate. Saw Point was just too easy to tip over. CrashBash (talk) 04:07, 30 April 2021 (UTC) A bit of an awkward battle, one that isn't as easy as it may seem, still Rabid M8 - 70/30 Rabid will get the slams in from the sides and do a whole lot more than Saw Point who may use the scoop to keep Rabid at bay but not for long.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 06:29, 30 April 2021 (UTC) Dee and Rabid M8 never really did anything though, they only had some success when their opponents were also ill-designed to deal with the axlebot shape. Saw Point's big snowplough is a great shape for deflecting and controlling Rabid M8, it's just a shame that it's attached to a slow and fally-over unreliable body behind it. 30-70. Jimlaad43 06:40, 30 April 2021 (UTC) 80/20 Rabid M8. I think Rabid is far more likely to win this through more deliberate attacks and better driving. But I'm still giving Saw Point a 20% chance, because we must remember that Dee's tyre was punctured not just by Soldier Ant prodding it or Kadeena Machina blasting it, but even by Robo Savage's flipper blade scraping it. If I can say one thing to compliment Saw Point, it is quite sharp and there's an off chance that Rabid M8 will puncture its own wheel. But still backing it overall. TOAST 10:59, 30 April 2021 (UTC) 90-10 Rabid M8 Rabid M8 to keep attacking Saw Point, not much else to say really. Adster1005 13:00, 30 April 2021 (UTC) 90/10 Rabid M8. The chances of Saw Point scoring a lucky wheel snipe is minimal, but not impossible. Saying that, however, Rabid M8 will be the more effective winner through constant attacks while Saw Points struggles to gain traction during the battle. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 13:42, 30 April 2021 (UTC) 80/20 Rabid M8 - Toast's said pretty much exactly what I was going to, to be honest - Rabid M8 should win this comfortably, but there's always the chance that a sharp bit of Saw Point manages to puncture a tyre. Combatwombat555 (talk) 16:48, 30 April 2021 (UTC) Rabig M8 90-10. Saw Point's only hope is for one of its wheels to catch one of its opponent's in such a way as to impede its movement. Don't see that happening many times. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:50, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
Saw Point score: 160	Rabid M8 score: 940
Winner: Rabid M8 (676)

Round 2

Oblark VS Pussycat

Oblark	Pussycat
Votes I don't give Oblark any more of a prayer against Pussycat than I did Sting. Pussycat, 95/5 (By the way could people please format the scores they give similar to mine, right at the start or end of their votes? It just makes life a bit easier for counting them up.) ThatRedOtter 16:51, 1 May 2021 (UTC) Pussycat 90-10. I will give Oblark an extra five points, because you never know, it could perform that one charge to pit its foe. Alas, it is unlikely, and I can see Pussycat ripping off its foe's lifter and breaking the axe too. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 16:56, 1 May 2021 (UTC) 10-90. I'm not ruling out some fluke push into a House Robot or the pit giving Oblark the win - it's large wedge is certainly well designed for controlling Pussycat if it needs - but in reality it's going to be the Pussycat show. Jimlaad43 17:21, 1 May 2021 (UTC) Honestly given who's left, I'd say Pussycat's safe for this Heat, this is another easy win. Pussycat - 95/5. Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 17:52, 1 May 2021 (UTC) Pussycat 95-5. Just a question of whether Pussycat can immobilise Oblark or whether it'll last to the judges. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:54, 1 May 2021 (UTC) 95-5 Pussycat - a throw up between 95-5 and 90-10 here, but Oblark isn't nimble enough or aggressive enough to threaten a random moment of opportunism really. It's body is lightly armour and it's the type of machine Pussycat absolutely chews into every time. NJGW (talk) 00:54, 2 May 2021 (UTC) This is easily a 95-5 for Pussycat, I see very little Oblark can do. CrashBash (talk) 03:52, 2 May 2021 (UTC) 95/5 Pussycat. Oblark's already fragile enough to begin with, and even the S4-era Pussycat could do some nasty damage to it. Imagine what the S7 version could do... --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 09:11, 2 May 2021 (UTC) 95/5 Pussycat. A robot as reliable as Pussycat should be fairly dependable for getting maximum scores. TOAST 12:31, 2 May 2021 (UTC) 95/5 Pussycat - Thin armour, weapons prone to failure, and mobility that seemed to be lacking - Pussycat's got this comfortably. Combatwombat555 (talk) 16:55, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
Oblark score: 60	Pussycat score: 540
Winner: Pussycat (594)

Eric VS Rabid M8

Eric	Rabid M8
Votes Unlike the last fight this is definitely closer. Of course this Eric doesn't have the upgrades it had when it fought Gabriel, but I'd very much hesitate to put Rabid anywhere near the same calibre of power. Eric gets a few good charges I reckon and knocks Rabid off balance, but not enough to swing it majorly in Eric's favour. Rabid M8, 80/20 ThatRedOtter 16:51, 1 May 2021 (UTC) Eric 55-45. This is actually really close in my opinion. Yes, Rabid M8 will probably cause some decent damage and aggression with its whacks. But, as Toast has mentioned before, Rabid M8's tyres could easily suffer damage even against mild pressure. I am actually thinking that Eric could theoretically tank its opponent's hits for the most part, and achieve some lifts that will trouble Rabid M8 too. I also think that if a poorly Robo Savage could puncture a tyre at one point, a fully fresh Eric should not only be able to do so, but also capitalise more too. Overall, I actually narrowly see Eric coming out on top, but I respect those opposing me on this! SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 16:56, 1 May 2021 (UTC) 30-70. Eric is just too slow, bad at turning and with a slow and useless lifter that really can't do anything to Rabid M8. Rabid can try to spin on the spot and if it connects with Eric, I can see a dent or two on the side of the clearly never OP robot. Jimlaad43 17:23, 1 May 2021 (UTC) Eric - 55-45 A VERY CLOSE fight, Rabid M8 is well armoured and speedy BUT it also easy to flip and doesn't offer the damage/aggression that Eric could dish out.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 17:59, 1 May 2021 (UTC) Eric 55-45. Yeah, close one this one, neither really the right opponent for either to really work against properly. Eric just edges it on aggression. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:55, 1 May 2021 (UTC) Y'know what, I'd say this is a 50-50 split. I could see both sides to the discussion and I'm honestly unsure who would come out on top between Eric's flips and Rabid's whacks. CrashBash (talk) 20:19, 1 May 2021 (UTC) 30-70 Rabid M8 - I personally don't share the optimism towards Eric's hopes here. Rabid M8 in the form of Dee beat Robo Savage, which for all its limitations is a better machine than Eric is more heavily armoured too. Rabid M8 was also very, very aggressive in its side spins, and I think they'll absolutely rip into Eric's thin side armour, with Eric really struggling to complete a flip of note with a combination of its slow flipping arm and Rabid M8's pace in its movements. Nevertheless, it's a good fight to debate and the closeness of the votes so far will give this RNG format a lot of credibility again, with the closeness of so many votes being able to be reflected rather than a machine edging another out 7 votes to 6 just because. Big fan so far. NJGW (talk) 01:05, 2 May 2021 (UTC) 75/25 Rabid M8. I think Eric's just too slow in this guise to really capitalise on the quick and slippery Rabid M8, but it will manage some successful lifts and aggressive attacks here and there to help swing fights in its favour sometimes. Unfortunately, I think Rabid's more capable of laying the wins out here mainly through getting more effective and damaging attacks during the battle, which'll often mean a JD win, though I wouldn't count out the opportunity for a KO to happen. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 09:17, 2 May 2021 (UTC) 65/35 Rabid M8. Think I'm with this side, but it's a great example of an RNG Wars fight! Slightly more votes for Eric overall I think, but the Rabid M8 voters are swinging a lot further in its favour. And I still give Eric a reasonable 35% chance, the lifter could close down on a tyre and cut through, or just clamp the swinging mechanism in general. But more likely, the BTEC Gabriel can try to replicate that infamous live event fight to the best of its abilities, and whilst it won't be nearly as menacing, Eric's extra thin front armour will show dents and bruises. TOAST 12:34, 2 May 2021 (UTC) 55/45 Rabid M8 - I see this playing out along the lines of Panic Attack vs Stinger - Eric controlling Rabid M8, forcing it into trouble, but taking damage in the process that'd ultimately cost it on a narrow decision. Combatwombat555 (talk) 16:55, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
Eric score: 390	Rabid M8 score: 610
Winner: Eric (126)

Heat Final

Pussycat VS Eric

Pussycat	Eric
Votes Ironically I give Eric less of a prayer here than against a robot from 16 years in the future from it. Pussycat eventually gets the openings and just messes Eric up, so many times. Pussycat, 90/10 ThatRedOtter 19:59, 3 May 2021 (UTC) Pussycat 90-10. Eric has a slight chance, if it can nip in and flick Pussycat around without the blade catching anything important, but that ain't happening most of the time. Hogwild94 (talk) 20:31, 3 May 2021 (UTC) Pussycat 95-5. Unfortunately, I cannot see Eric doing much of note here. Pussycat to completely dominate this one. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 20:42, 3 May 2021 (UTC) 95/5 Pussycat, maximum scores for Pussycat throughout the heat, and although we had our little upset with Eric against Rabid M8, it has probably cost us a more contentious Heat Final in the end. TOAST 21:05, 3 May 2021 (UTC) 85/15 Pussycat - Eric's the sternest test Pussycat's faced so far, but that's not saying an awful lot. It'll hang in there, and can get a few lifts, but that armour's getting sliced to ribbons. 15 points based on the slim potential for bundling Pussycat into a House Robot or the pit, though. Combatwombat555 (talk) 21:12, 3 May 2021 (UTC) 95/5 Pussycat. Very little chance for Eric to survive this, it had better hope for a catastrophic mistake to happen. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 01:38, 4 May 2021 (UTC) I can't really give anything more than a 95/5 for Pussycat because Eric isn't anything it hasn't fought, and beaten handily, before. CrashBash (talk) 03:54, 4 May 2021 (UTC) Pussycat has dealt with far more powerful lifters/flippers and almost and in some occasions killed them off. Pussycat 95-5 Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 06:00, 4 May 2021 (UTC) 95-5 Eric doesn't stand a chance. It's lifter is so small and slow that if won't be able to effectively turn over the slippery Pussycat, to which Pussycat will absolutely demolish the sides and wheels of the green robot with its super-sharp saw. Jimlaad43 07:30, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
Pussycat score: 835	Eric score: 65
Winner: Pussycat (581)