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Round 1[]

Prometheus (US) VS Destructosaur[]

Prometheus Destructosaur
Prometheususa
Destructosaur
Votes
  1. The fact that Destructosaur not only is the favourite here but is hard to make a real argument against both saddens me and fills me with endless joy. Prometheus just has so much fundamentally wrong with it that Destructosaur just takes the majority of the fights. Destructosaur, 75/25ThatRedOtter 22:25, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
  2. Prometheus 80-20. OK, so Prometheus had its fair share of flaws, including lacking a reverse gear. But... what can Destructosaur actually do here? Its jaws are the wrong shape to grab its American opponent here, and it will be easily outwedged and outpushed for the most part. Sure, it can survive I suppose, but even still, with no KO power, it will be more likely to lose Judges' decisions, and by some margin. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 22:32, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
  3. 65-35 Destructosaur - hard one to judge with how little we saw of Destructosaur. Its movement speed seemed solid, but it was on its wheels for 5 seconds. I think nevertheless, it'll probably outlast Prometheus most times, and is more likely to inflict minor yet more telling damage points. NJGW (talk) 23:59, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
  4. Given Prometheus died very easily by ramming opponents or driving awkwardly, I think Destructosaur has a far better chance, at least it was capable of surviving an axe blow, a flip and rams. Destructosaur - 80/20 Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 06:05, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
  5. A tough one to judge as neither robot showed much promise or has the right weapons to do anything to the other. That said the lack of Reverse drive on Prometheus is only going to cause it issues if Destructosaur can force Prometheus towards a CPZ. Really, because Destructosaur is more likely to both escape and survive an encounter with Killalot or Matilda, it can have the points. 25-75. Jimlaad43 07:22, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
  6. I give Prometheus more credit than most people, and do think the 3 minute time limit will work to its benefit here. Remember that Prometheus did still go the distance against Techno-Lease with both robots constantly burning their motors to extinction in head-to-head pushes. That's probably what put Prometheus out of action for the rest of the competition tbh, but this would come down to a wedge war anyway. If Destructosaur can get underneath (they definitely have the poetntial to be lower as long as they've set the claw up perfectly), it can cause some nibbling damage... you know what, this is my first 50/50. TOAST 08:23, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
  7. 70/30 Prometheus. I'm also in the camp where Prometheus gets more wins than Destructosaur, though that's mostly because its opponent is just not suited to fighting in any capacity. Destructosaur's jaw is too narrow to hold onto anything and will be a very easy point for Prometheus to wedge in and slam into walls, maybe pulling off a one-flip-and-done with a slam. However, no reverse gear and worrying reliability will mean that Destructosaur will survive some of the matches its given, though the bulk of the wins will be Prometheus slamming its way to a majority win in my eyes. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 16:49, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
  8. 50-50. I can't really call this one; Prometheus is objectively the better robot and would walk this if it had a reverse gear, but without one, it's just too vulnerable to getting stuck. But, as others have said, what can Destructosaur do in response? Can see the claw doing anything meaningful, and if it does get a grip, can it actually control Prometheus? I doubt it; if Prometheus can move Weld-Dor around while stuck on its forks, what chance does a weak claw have? Hogwild94 (talk) 20:27, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
  9. 65/35 Destructosaur - If it had a reverse gear, this would be Prometheus' fight; as is, I've got to give Destructosaur the edge, because without it (and with what appeared a non-zero turning circle) it just seems that more often that not it'd get stuck somewhere. Combatwombat555 (talk) 21:28, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
  10. 80-20 to Destructosaur. Sure, Prometheus may start the fight off better, but it'll just burn itself out by the end of it, or get stuck or something. CrashBash (talk) 11:06, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
Prometheus score: 470 Destructosaur score: 530
Winner: Destructosaur (884)

Interstellar: MML VS PP3D[]

Interstellar: MML PP3D
Interstellarmml
PP3D
Votes
  1. This is probably the most balanced round 1 fight in the tournament off the top of my head, and even then those exposed wheels are tasty, tasty stuff for PP3D. Of course exposed wheels don't always they'll be sniped, but with Gary Cairns driving against Maggie... Yeah the chance is much higher. PP3D, 90/10 ThatRedOtter 22:25, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
  2. PP3D 85-15. I will give Interstellar: MML 10 extra points on the basis that I do not trust PP3D bouncing off its wedge most of the time. Alas, PP3D has by far the greater damage potential, and it is facing a robot that foolishly brought wheels into the arena! SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 22:35, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
  3. 85-15 PP3D - Yeah, PP3D has enough flaws that random losses could happen in this encounter. Most times it should overpower Interstellar, however. NJGW (talk) 00:00, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
  4. Provided PP3D doesn't explode and die, it has this easy. PP3D 95/5 Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 06:07, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
  5. PP3D's biggest weakness was the strength of its own weapon and against a strong wedge, we could see those issues rear their head. Interstellar's exposed wheels and inexperienced drivers are definitely working against it (docking 20 points IMO), the rest of the robot has the facilities big man to cause PP3D's issues to begin. 35-65. Jimlaad43 07:26, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
  6. A funny matchup between a lethal spinner that often kills itself, and a subpar reboot flipper that did defeat a huge spinner by "withstanding" it until it broke down. Of course The Cat's breakdown was particularly poor, but given that both situations that would set up an Interstellar win have applied to each of these machines, I'll give this to PP3D 85-15. TOAST 08:15, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
  7. 95/5 PP3D. You guys already know I'm really not that fond of the Robochallenge Loaners and Interstellar's not much of an exception to the rule. Its slow and not too well driven, so PP3D will absolutely make a mess of the very exposed wheels and armour to gain a commanding victory. Unless PP3D explodes or something. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 16:51, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
  8. PP3D 95-5. Yeah, almost every time, PP3D is gonna take out at least one exposed wheels. Speaking of DBWITA, I'm considering having another go at Ragnabot myself, given its now four years since my first attempt. Watch my blog. Hogwild94 (talk) 20:29, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
  9. 85/15 PP3D - A decent wedge stands a chance against PP3D, but Interstellar just has too many weaknesses - exposed wheels, an inexperienced driver, a full-width flipper that means any hit to the side is likely to jam it up, and armour that wasn't that great. Combatwombat555 (talk) 21:28, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
  10. 95-5 to PP3D. Nothing outside a random breakdown will help Interstellar. CrashBash (talk) 11:06, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
Interstellar: MML score: 130 PP3D score: 870
Winner: Interstellar: MML (69)

Limpet VS Wizard[]

Limpet Wizard
Limpet S2 Crop
Wizard Crop
Votes
  1. Limpet isn't great but it's certainly better than Wizard. The wizard voice could certainly swing things however. Maybe. Limpet, 80/20ThatRedOtter 22:25, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
  2. Limpet 60-40. This is an awful battle, primarily because Limpet will not dominate here. Heck, even Cassius took time to beat Wizard, because of the latter's low ground clearance, and with Limpet being a sluggish machine, this will be a difficult one to watch. That said, Wizard's control problems and unreliability makes me lean towards Limpet winning for the most part. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 22:35, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
  3. 70-30 Limpet - Limpet isn't refined enough for me to be convinced by an even bigger scoreline, but design wise it should be way on top overall. NJGW (talk) 00:01, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
  4. Same arguments as above, it's not perfect and a track could be lost but unlikely. Limpet - 65/35 Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 06:09, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
  5. going to have to rewatch Wizard's introduction to see where this claim of Fabric armour comes from before I add it to the Uncommon list, but the circle isn't going to be great here. Limpet has the advantage with the wedge and pushing, if it ever makes it towards Wizard of course. As this will likely be a cointoss Arena battle from Series 2 of the two robots who weren't the heat winner, with random House Robot victories secured, 55-45. Jimlaad43 07:32, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
  6. Limpet burnt out a speed controller in the Skittles!! I can forgive them for Sir Killalot cutting off a track in the Gauntlet, but the fact that Limpet would've been eliminated in its Series 2 heat even if it outscored Roadblock, oh dear. At 4mph with no weapon, I really don't see what it's supposed to do even to something like Wizard, which allegedly has 15mph top speeds. I'm going Wizard 70/30. TOAST 08:19, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
  7. 55/45 Wizard. Christ, this is a dreary fight, but honestly even though Limpet's the better suited machine to fighting I do also think Wizard will just win through its much faster speed more often than not. That being said, however, I really don't trust its control enough to prevent Limpet from winning a large chunk of fights, so the best I can go with is what I mentioned. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 16:54, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
  8. Wizard 65-35. If Limpet was quicker, I may favour it, but its just too slow, I think Wizard can use the speed advantage to gain a few extra aggression points. Hogwild94 (talk) 20:31, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
  9. 60/40 Wizard - On paper, Limpet's wedge design should enable it to deal with Wizard pretty handily; with the glacial speeds, lack of weaponry, and unreliability, however, I think Wizard gets the edge. Combatwombat555 (talk) 21:28, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
  10. 55-45 to Limpet. I can see the logic behind Wizard winning, but I can't look past Limpet at least wedging and trying to be aggressive. CrashBash (talk) 11:06, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
Limpet score: 535 Wizard score: 465
Winner: Wizard (72)

T2 VS Kill-E-Crank-E[]

T2 Kill-E-Crank-E
T2
Kill-E-Crank-E
Votes
  1. Ouch. The most I can say about this fight is that I was surprised that T2 doesn't have it's own page. This is a classic "Robot from almost 20 years in the future stomps its opponent in every conceivable way." Good fun. Kill-E-Crank-E, 95/5ThatRedOtter
  2. T2 60-40. Actually, I disagree with that! T2 is by far the older machine, but Kill-E-Crank-E really wasn't a great machine. Its disc was not brilliant, and it also could be pushed quite easily around, with various areas to exploit. T2's main weakness was that it did not cause much damage. However, with three minutes instead of five, and with aggression valued more than damage, I am confident that T2's strong pushes of its foe will see it dominate the fight more often than not. Judges' decision victory is the most likely outcome here. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 22:29, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
  3. 90-10 Kill-E-Crank-E - T2 will try and its solid pushing gives it more of a chance than a lot of incompetent machines, but it's just so brittle that even KECE's spinner will likely always rack up enough points. NJGW (talk) 00:02, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
  4. You know what I agree with Space for once, T2 maybe an older machine BUT Kill-E never really impressed me, in either the Series or the Live Events, it's slow and cumbersome and T2 can take advantage by ramming into it. Yes, no damage points will be earned but then again that disc did not seem all too powerful. Overall, T2 wins on aggression and maybe control (provided it doesn't kill itself). T2 - 65/35 Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 06:12, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
  5. T2 has the advantage in most of this fight, but armour made of Netherrack against a reboot era spinner is likely to end badly. There is too much decorative armour on T2, which can only end in it being ripped off, or at least obviously damaged. The exposed wheels are also vulnerable. I can see T2 winning a pushing war a few times, but it's also the one more likely to come off worst against the House Robots. 40-60. Jimlaad43 07:36, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
  6. T II is in a more comfortable position for pushing, and it really won't sustain much damage from the lightweight 450rpm cutter of Kill-E-Crank-E, but The Darke Destroyer also had abysmal damage output and still won that decision on damage. I'll go for the reboot bot, but not by much... Kill-E-Crank-E 60/40. TOAST 08:21, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
  7. Kill E Crank E 55-45. T2 is quicker and KECE has a very narrow attack range. If it does catch T2, though, it'd cause enough damage to sway the match, and I'd say a narrow majority of times, it'd do so. Hogwild94 (talk) 20:33, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
  8. 65/35 Kill-E-Crank-E - I see the argument for T2, but I don't see it really dominating a pushing fight if it comes down to it - Kill-E-Crank-E had decent traction and decent power, I don't think T2 would have that all its own way. With the addition of minor damage from Kill-E-Crank-E's disc, the points swing in Kill-E-Crank-E's favour. Combatwombat555 (talk) 21:28, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
  9. 55-45 to Kill-E. Sorta similar reasoning to the previous fight, except at least Kill-E has a weapon that could, in theory, do something to S3-era armour. CrashBash (talk) 11:06, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
  10. 60/40 Kill-E-Crank-E. Much as its weapon is utterly dismal for the modern age, KECE's spinning disc might actually be enough to do something to a machine with pre-HD armour. That damage alone is easily going to push a good chunk of the fights in KECE's favour, but I also see T2 getting wins through better aggression and control with its front blade. Still, even a weapon that can do minimal damage will overcome the issues that KECE will face more often than not. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 12:11, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
T2 score: 385 Kill-E-Crank-E score: 615
Winner: T2 (14)

Round 2[]

Destructosaur VS Interstellar: MML[]

Destructosaur Interstellar: MML
Destructosaur
Interstellarmml
Votes
  1. HOLY CRAP! What a round 2 we have here! The favourite of the heat is out and two of the very few reboot robots are out from the first hurdle! This fight is much, much easier for Interstellar, and should have a few awkward flips to toss Destructosaur over again and again. Side note, this battle was pain to type the name of properly. These are two very easy names to mispell. Interstellar: MML, 90/10ThatRedOtter 20:36, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
  2. Interstellar: MML 95-5. Interstellar: MML should achieve a flip of doom without too much trouble, and I cannot really see Destructosaur doing much to resist it! Henceforth, I cannot give the Series 6 machine any more points. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 20:42, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
  3. Destructosaur should keep rolling back onto its wheels after every flip, but it won't exactly respond after each successful righting. Purely because I can't trust Interstellar to stay away from a House Robot wanting to fry its wheels, 15-85. Jimlaad43 21:07, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
  4. 95/5 Interstellar MML. Damnit, PP3D exploded. Anyways, fairly routine one-flip-and-done here, despite how shoddy Interstellar is. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 21:22, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
  5. 95/5 Interstellar MML - an easy win here after Insterstellar's fluky win last round. Interesting stuff! NJGW (talk) 03:52, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
  6. Some people are saying that Destructosaur should roll over onto its wheel again, however may I remind you that it was a flip that took out the robot...Interstellar MML - 95/5 Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 06:08, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
    The Dynamics of a Front-Hinged flipper vs a Rear-Hinged is very different. Rear hinged throws a robot into the air, while a Front-Hinged tips the robot over. With a rollover design, the front hinged just begins the roll in the same motion it would want to roll ack over. Rear hingers have too much lift in the flip that some momentum can be lost as the robot lands. Destructosaur had some interference from Iron-Awe when it was overturned, not giving it space to roll back onto its wheels. Without another robot in the fight, IMML needs to find the wall to stop Destructosaur rolling back over. Jimlaad43 08:03, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
    Except that Destructosaur could not roll back over even if it wanted to. It was even stated that it had no srimech. Not every barrel shaped robot is automatically going to right itself. CrashBash (talk) 15:57, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
  7. We'd still vote for Wedge-Awe 6 by near enough a 95-5 margin... which is funny because I suppose Destructosaur was eliminated "after" Iron-Awe 2, but the point is I don't even need to think about Interstellar's flipper, as long as the Aderin-Pococks aren't awful on the sticks then this will be a cakewalk for them. 95/5 Interstellar: MML TOAST 07:23, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
  8. 90-10 to Interstellar, who only needs to get one flip and it's won. The issue is really whether or not it will be able to get the flip in. CrashBash (talk) 16:27, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
  9. Interstellar 95-5. Easy one flip KO almost every time. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:56, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
  10. 95/5 Interstellar - Even if Interstellar can't get the flip in (and I back it to do so), it's still a big wedge with nothing to grab on to - should control the battle with relative ease. Combatwombat555 (talk) 23:20, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
Destructosaur score: 70 Interstellar: MML Score: 930
Winner: Interstellar: MML (271)

Wizard VS T2[]

Wizard T2
Wizard Crop
T2
Votes
  1. This is the kind of result that is only possible in RNG Wars you have to admit. As for the fight itself, T2 happily takes alot of the wins in so many different ways that I feel kind of bad for Wizard. T2, 90/10ThatRedOtter 20:36, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
  2. T2 90-10. 10 only because T2 did fall into the Pit against Vector, ha ha. Well, you never know, it could happen again! But yeah, Wizard is an easy opponent for T2 to shove around. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 20:42, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
  3. I can't see Wizard being much use here. 10-90. Jimlaad43 21:08, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
  4. 95/5 T2. Speed can only really get you so far, and Wizard is not well controlled and prime for T2 to bully it around no-fuss. I say that, but there's also a minor matter that T2 does what it did and pits itself somehow... --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 21:25, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
  5. 85/15 T2 - I'll be slightly more generous with Space pointing out that self-pitting that came under absolutely no pressure. T2 should dominate this one still though. NJGW (talk) 03:54, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
  6. Yay! T2 won! Love this machine, let's see if we can go further, thankfully T2 will ram and attack much better than Wizard. T2 - 95/5 Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 06:10, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
  7. What a round, huh? I am surprised Limpet still finished with more points than Wizard, but in my mind, the randomiser made the right call. Not so much with T II vs Kill-E-Crank-E, but it was at least somewhat possible, so let's have it. Here at this stage, T II is a much more likely candidate for success, but it's not so far into the future that Wizard feels hopelessly outclassed. I'd call it an 80/20 T II. TOAST 07:27, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
  8. 95-5 to T2. Beyond an accidental pitting, it'll be able to boss Wizard around with little retaliation. CrashBash (talk) 16:28, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
  9. T2 95-5. Classic 90s RW pushing contest before Wizard randomly stops. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:58, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
  10. 95/5 T2 - I mean, Wizard died from Cassius bumping into it too hard - T2's got enough speed to replicate that. Combatwombat555 (talk) 23:20, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
Wizard score: 90 T2 score: 910
Winner: T2 (196)

Heat Final[]

Interstellar: MML VS T2[]

Interstellar: MML T2
Interstellarmml
T2
Votes
  1. Apologies for the late update everyone, was simply extremely busy yesterday. As for this fight, can T2 best another reboot robot? I sure hope so. However, Interstellar is certainly better made than Kill-E ever was, and I reckon if it gets T2 over, that's the fight. Probably wouldn't be too hard to do so too. Hope I'm proven wrong though.Interstellar, 90/10 ThatRedOtter 08:23, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
  2. I love that T2 has gotten this far, it's truly amazing and I am so happy. Alas, whilst I believe it can self right, it be chucked over too many times for it to truly win. Interstellar: MML - 80/20 Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 08:54, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
  3. 55/45... T2. Yep, I'm going there. Yes, Interstellar is way more modern for combat. Yes, it can get a one-flip-and-done, something that always scores high for me. But truth be told, Interstellar's also... kinda bad overall when it came to driving and getting its weapon into effect, and what makes it worse was that it seemed to have serious traction and reliability issues. T2, for its faults and old age, was actually consistently reliable, and I genuinely do think it'll take a majority of the matches it would fight. Still, a one-flip-and-done is always on the cards, so realistically Interstellar still has to get a good chunk of the fights too. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 10:34, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
  4. 90-10 Interstellar - T2 is the exact type of machine to ride flush up Interstellar everytime, and most pushes it does will be ineffective ones in the centre of the arena. NJGW (talk) 10:52, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
  5. 90-10 Interstellar: MML. Yeah, this is a simple one, though I would love to see T2 go through! SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:40, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
  6. 90-10 Interstellar: MML. Wouldn't rule out T II launching itself off Interstellar's wedge and flipping itself over lol. TOAST 17:36, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
  7. Interstellar 90-10. Most times, it'd be an easy one flip KO, but T2 does have half a chance due to its speed and awkward shape to catch in the right place. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:12, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
  8. 90/10 Interstellar - Yeah, this should be comfortable. T2 can't match Interstellar's ground clearance; all Interstellar should have to do is get underneath and time a flip. Combatwombat555 (talk) 20:30, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
Interstellar: MML score: 665 T2 score: 135
Winner: Interstellar: MML (521)
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