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Anarachnid vs Chaos

Anarachnid	Chaos
Votes for Anarachnid	Votes for Chaos Anarachnid wasn't really going to win any battles anyway. Jimlaad43(talk) 07:41, September 12, 2016 (UTC) Did I ever tell you guys about the time I named a character in my short film after Anarachnid? ToastUltimatum 08:01, September 12, 2016 (UTC) No hope in Hell.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 08:49, September 12, 2016 (UTC) No contest. Combatwombat555 (talk) 10:18, September 12, 2016 (UTC) OK, lets kick this off. For fun, I will be consulting the results of the previous Ragnabot as well. And we start with just about the easiest battle ever imaginable. Even with Chaos' high ground clearance, it is much, MUCH faster and FAR more potent. CrashBash (talk) 13:02, September 12, 2016 (UTC) Anarachnid has a chance of lasting the whole battle, but has no chance of winning this. Chaos will score far too many points. Nweston8 (talk) 13:41, September 12, 2016 (UTC) A walkover for Chaos. Anarachnid has no match for its speed and aggression, even if it isn't flipped over. VulcansHowl (talk) 13:56, September 12, 2016 (UTC) Since I doubt there will be any opposing votes on this battle, I have decided to talk about Chaos itself. To be honest, I don't think Chaos is that great a robot; It does have its strengths in that it has great pulling power and is well controlled (although in fairness, that was due to George Francis). But my issue here is this; how good was that flipper really? Its opponents, in Wheelosaurus and Mace, were never really troubled by it, and the high ground clearance of the robot makes me wonder whether it could actually get underneath most opponents anyway. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 14:02, September 12, 2016 (UTC) If Chaos, father of Chaos 2, can outpull a house robot, then a walker should be easy pickings. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:28, September 12, 2016 (UTC) Nice to see such a simple decision to get us started. Raz3r(talk) 18:34, September 12, 2016 (UTC) If nothing else, I can see Chaos pushing Anarachnid on to the flame pit where its feet will get stuck. --Voyanuitoa (talk) 08:18, September 13, 2016 (UTC) So silly to think about. --Demon Of Tomorrow 16:44, September 13, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Chaos (0-12)

Chompalot vs Coffin-Bot

Chompalot	Coffin-Bot
Votes for Chompalot Coffin-Bot will be grappled and pushed around easily. Jimlaad43(talk) 07:41, September 12, 2016 (UTC) Poor Coffin-Bot, never to gain recognition again. ToastUltimatum 08:01, September 12, 2016 (UTC) Grabbed and maybe crushed by the dragon!Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 08:49, September 12, 2016 (UTC) If Chompalot was still mobile after damage from Ironside3 and Pulsar, Coffin-Bot's disc should be no problem. Combatwombat555 (talk) 10:18, September 12, 2016 (UTC) A first round faller and a heat-finalist here, and it looks like Coffin-Bot will fall early yet again. I gotta be honest, Chompalot did a lot better in its 2016 heat than I thought it would, and even got off to the better start in its battle against Gabriel. The logic seems to be if it could withstand Ironside, it can withstand Coffin-Bot...could probably pit it too. CrashBash (talk) 13:05, September 12, 2016 (UTC) Coffin-Bot is a nice, flat, long, wide robot, so Chompalot should be able to grab hold of it and eventually pit it. Nweston8 (talk) 13:41, September 12, 2016 (UTC) Chompalot should easily grab hold of Coffin-Bot and drag it around wherever it pleases... probably towards the pit, I should think. From what I've seen of Coffin-Bot, it doesn't look fast or manoeuvrable enough to get its disc into play. VulcansHowl (talk) 13:56, September 12, 2016 (UTC) Coffin-Bot isn't the greatest of spinners, although maybe it could cause some superficial damage to Chompalot's sides. Apart from that, I could see Chompalot using its good pushing power to either cause Coffin-Bot to break down, or win on a judges' decision. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 14:23, September 12, 2016 (UTC) Meh spinner, so Chompalot (who I've just finished watching winning the Iron Maidens on Challenge!) should have not trouble gripping and pitting. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:29, September 12, 2016 (UTC) Despite how easily Chompalot lost its armour in the 2016 Series, I see it having no trouble here against the spinner. Raz3r(talk) 18:34, September 12, 2016 (UTC) Chompalot's armour should be able to take the hits and allow it to push Coffin-Bot down the pit. --Voyanuitoa (talk) 08:18, September 13, 2016 (UTC) Coffin 'Bot was not the most competent of machines. I think Chompalot will win with a grab and pit. --Demon Of Tomorrow 16:44, September 13, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Coffin-Bot
Winner: Chompalot (12-0)

Spirit of Scorpion vs REALI-T

Spirit of Scorpion	REALI-T
Votes for Spirit of Scorpion Sadly, REALI-T will be cut into tiny pieces. Jimlaad43(talk) 07:41, September 12, 2016 (UTC) The names said Spirit of Scorpion, but the image showed Scorpion S7, so I've made the assumption and transformed it all into Scorpion S7. ToastUltimatum 08:01, September 12, 2016 (UTC) I made it Spirit of Scorpion to make it distinct from the Extreme 1 version without resorting to brackets. The Series 7 version of X-Terminator was called X-Terminator 3 IIRC in the original Ragnabot. Jimlaad43(talk) 08:10, September 12, 2016 (UTC) You remember correctly. CrashBash (talk) 13:07, September 12, 2016 (UTC) Slice and dice.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 08:51, September 12, 2016 (UTC) Not going to be pretty. Combatwombat555 (talk) 10:18, September 12, 2016 (UTC) Poor REALI-T is doomed to fall early again. On the plus side, now that we have the more recent and up-to-date "Spirit of" Scorpion, hopefully it'll do better. CrashBash (talk) 13:07, September 12, 2016 (UTC) A REALI-T check. Nweston8 (talk) 13:41, September 12, 2016 (UTC) Spirit of Scorpion to shred REALI-T to pieces with the disc.VulcansHowl (talk) 13:56, September 12, 2016 (UTC) I heard from some people that the Bodyhammer battle REALI-T lost was rather controversial. If I have spare time from my A-Level studies, I may check that out for myself. Here, there is no controversy. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 14:23, September 12, 2016 (UTC) Now that is harsh, having a well-liked S1 entrant get mullered like that, but there's no other way this battle's going. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:30, September 12, 2016 (UTC) Would be interesting to watch, simply because we don't know how much of a state REALI-T will be left in. Not much, I imagine. Raz3r(talk) 18:34, September 12, 2016 (UTC) REALI-T will have to face the reality that Series 2 armour won't stand a chance against Scorpion's disc. --Voyanuitoa (talk) 08:18, September 13, 2016 (UTC) Even worse, it's Series 1 armour! Jimlaad43(talk) 12:23, September 13, 2016 (UTC) Errr... I hope Scorpion makes lotsa spaghetti! --Demon Of Tomorrow 16:44, September 13, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for REALI-T
Winner: Spirit of Scorpion (12-0)

Zorro vs Spikasaurus

Zorro	Spikasaurus
Votes for Zorro If the spinner is going, Spikasaurus will have little chance of attacking Zorro without being severely damaged. If it isn't, Zorro would be able to put up a decent push off in relation to Spikasaurus. Spikasaurus shouldn't get stuck to the side walls, but I think they're more susceptible to defeat here. Jimlaad43(talk) 07:41, September 12, 2016 (UTC) Spikasaurus and Little Fly are probably our biggest losses today. ToastUltimatum 08:01, September 12, 2016 (UTC) Spikasaurus is just the wrong design to deal with a weapon like Zorro's. Combatwombat555 (talk) 10:18, September 12, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Spikasaurus Maybe Spikey here will be fast enough to stop Zorro from speeding up and will then push the spinner around and cause some severe internal damage.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 08:53, September 12, 2016 (UTC) My concern is I'm not sure just how potent Zorro's cleaver really is. It looks flashy, certainly, but didn't really do much more than tear a cosmetic chunk off of Aggrobot. Spikasaurus does not have these "chunks". Only one of these robots is going to be in the main competition this time, and I have a feeling it'll be Spikasaurus. CrashBash (talk) 13:09, September 12, 2016 (UTC) If Spikasaurus can survive a potentially heavy first hit - which I think it will - then I can see its aggression and speed helping it to control the battle. Also, with this being the 2016 arena, there is only so much space for Zorro to move in before they move into a hazard. I just can't see Zorro having any respite. Nweston8 (talk) 13:41, September 12, 2016 (UTC) Zorro's weapon will break upon its first hit on Spikasaurus, as it did in Series 7, then it will become a push-and-shove match between the two. The only thing is that Spikasaurus proved in the Northern Annihilator that it was capable of ramming others with its spikes, while Zorro's ground clearance and lack of wedge did not appear to suggest its capability as a rambot. Spikasaurus for me. VulcansHowl (talk) 13:56, September 12, 2016 (UTC) Zorro has power problems; indeed that spinner caused several other issues as well. Not only does it drain out the electric needed for Zorro to move, but the srimech is impaired because of it. It also probably contributed to Zorro's overweight issue as well, causing the design to be stripped to just the RCV chassis. Could Spikasaurus take advantage? I think yes, since it is tough enough to deflect the blows of Zorro and could probably push it around the arena, eventually pitting it. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 14:28, September 12, 2016 (UTC) Zorro is OK, but Spikasaurus withstood some pretty rough robots with only a bit of minor damage, so they should withstand the average blades and get some aggressive shoves to win via the judges. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:31, September 12, 2016 (UTC) I really don't like Spikasaurus, but I still think it will win. It survived through an Annihilator with Dominator 2, Chaos 2 and Killerhurtz among others, and I don't think Zorro's weapon is as potent as theirs. Raz3r(talk) 18:34, September 12, 2016 (UTC) Spikasaurus won't get stuck in the 6mm steel of the 2016 arena wall, its superior pushing power could allow it to push Zorro onto the floor flipper, where Zorro's faulty srimech will let it down. --Voyanuitoa (talk) 08:18, September 13, 2016 (UTC) Spikasaurus was a robot that I think could do rather well in Series 4, only neutered by a bad matchup. Still, Zorro's weapon was hideously fragile, and I think that Spikey is going to just batter around Zorro until it wins the judges' decision on damage and aggression. --Demon Of Tomorrow 16:44, September 13, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Spikasaurus (3-9)

Little Fly vs Glitterbomb

Little Fly	Glitterbomb
Votes for Little Fly	Votes for Glitterbomb The lawnmower blade won't cause Glitterbomb any damage, but the axe might, and Glitterbomb should be able to push Little Fly around easily anyway. Jimlaad43(talk) 07:41, September 12, 2016 (UTC) It's the wedge shape and the added weight especially. ToastUltimatum 08:01, September 12, 2016 (UTC) Yay Glitterbomb will win something! Little Fly was a good robot but it won't do well against a more up to date machine.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 08:54, September 12, 2016 (UTC) We didn't really see Glitterbomb's axe, but if it's Edgehog's mechanism it's got reasonable power behind it, and should cause damage to Series 4 armour. Plus there's the small matter of Little Fly's yawning chasm of a ground clearance... Combatwombat555 (talk) 10:18, September 12, 2016 (UTC) I don't think the axe will cause much damage, it's hardly a conventional shape, but I don't really think there's anything Little Fly can really do. I wouldn't be surprised if it went to the judges, and if we're using the same criteria as the reboot (I.E. Aggression scores more than Damage), then Glitterbomb has this. CrashBash (talk) 13:11, September 12, 2016 (UTC) Well, this certainly won't be the most explosive battle ever, but Glitterbomb will be able to strike enough hits and be aggressive enough to take this. Nweston8 (talk) 13:41, September 12, 2016 (UTC) Little Fly will be aggressive, but Glitterbomb's axe can constantly pound its armour and its wedge should be able to get underneath Little Fly and push it around the arena. VulcansHowl (talk) 13:56, September 12, 2016 (UTC) To be fair, I really needed to see Glitterbomb's axe in action. Maybe the unusual design could cause actually be very deadly; seeing as the Glitterbomb team once patrolled the wiki for a while, maybe they could send a video of the axe in action. As for this battle, I think Glitterbomb will be more aggressive, possibly using its wedge to tip Little Fly over. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 14:23, September 12, 2016 (UTC) OK blade vs meh axe. Glitterbomb's better speed and more efficient torque will win it this one. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:33, September 12, 2016 (UTC) Little Fly's weapon will cause little to no damage, but Glitterbomb can with its axe. Glittberbomb doesn't even really need the axe; all it needs to do is get its wedge underneath and push Little Fly around and maybe tip them over. Raz3r(talk) 18:37, September 12, 2016 (UTC) Little Fly's bar tends to "jar" when it hits metal, it won't make much of a dent in Raex. Glitterbomb should be able to take it on aggression and damage. --Voyanuitoa (talk) 08:18, September 13, 2016 (UTC) Glitterbomb is just too durable for Little Fly to deal any damage. Little Fly, on the other hand, looks susceptible to the axe of Glitterbomb, which will be its downfall. Doesn't help that you could park a jumbo jet underneath Little Fly... --Demon Of Tomorrow 16:44, September 13, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Glitterbomb (0-12)

Grunt vs Crusher

Grunt	Crusher
Votes for Grunt My first contrarian vote in Ragnabot, Grunt is so fast that a good ram will probably dislodge one of Crusher's tracks. They took themselves off after all. Grunt has pedigree as US Robot Wars, and was only doomed to fail in Series 1 because of its stock robot status, it wasn't bad. Crusher won't be able to catch it easily even if the tracks do stay on. ToastUltimatum 08:01, September 12, 2016 (UTC) I'm with Toast here. Crusher's weapon was decent, and if it gets a grip it should do severe damage, but it's very slow, I can't see it catching Grunt, and those tracks are so vulnerable... Combatwombat555 (talk) 10:18, September 12, 2016 (UTC) My concern is this...can Crusher's weapon even reach Grunt? If it can't there's nothing it can really do. CrashBash (talk) 13:12, September 12, 2016 (UTC) Grunt may be long, but it isn't slow and it isn't wide. Unless there is some absolutely ridiculous driving, it should be able to avoid Crusher's weapon comfortably and ram it enough to win via a judges decision or by dislodging a track. Nweston8 (talk) 13:41, September 12, 2016 (UTC) Crusher's weapon may be impressive, but Grunt proved fast in its Gauntlet run, and might make up for its smaller size and lighter weight by ramming Crusher's tracks off. If Beast of Bodmin could do it with a light nudge, Grunt could pull off a David vs Goliath victory here. VulcansHowl (talk) 13:56, September 12, 2016 (UTC) A very tactical fight this, certainly for Grunt, but I have to agree with Toast too. Grunt can whiz in and out and cause minor damage, and it may go to a Judges' Decision. Raz3r(talk) 18:34, September 12, 2016 (UTC) The two little claws on the front of Grunt are perfect for taking out Crusher's tracks. --Voyanuitoa (talk) 08:18, September 13, 2016 (UTC) I hate to say this, but Crusher was just a pitiful machine in general. The weapon might be good, but what does that matter when you are as slow as anything and have tracks that are so exposed that they might as well just fall off if the wind goes the wrong way? Grunt can at least zip around and take out Crusher by breaking a tread off with its high-speed rams. --Demon Of Tomorrow 16:44, September 13, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Crusher Crusher was very competent, and should make mincemeat of Grunt. Jimlaad43(talk) 07:41, September 12, 2016 (UTC) This robot grabbed hold of Beast of Bodmin and really did its teeth in, yeah it lost but think about what it could do to the lower grade Grunt?Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 08:55, September 12, 2016 (UTC) To be honest, Grunt is underrated in my opinion; it is quick and has a very low ground clearance, perfect for Series 1 at least. Here though, it may have issues, since Crusher is deadly and could probably immobilise Grunt. Its tough, as not only were Crusher's tracks exposed, the engine itself proved to not be much reliable itself. In the end, I just feel that Crusher could repeat similar attacks it did on Beast of Bodmin to Grunt, only this time Grunt does not survive to see Crusher lose its tracks. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 14:23, September 12, 2016 (UTC) I suppose Grunt could manage to evade Crusher long enough to dodge the beak and knock the sides and dislodge a chain. But if Crusher gets one bite, that could be enough to take out something inside. Benefit of the doubt says that's the killer. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:34, September 12, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Grunt (8-4)

Eubank the Mouse vs Caliban

Eubank the Mouse	Caliban
Votes for Eubank the Mouse I actually think Eubank the Mouse will win this, with the decent wedge and pushing power, it might be able to bully Caliban into the hazards and House Robots, who will do some damage. Jimlaad43(talk) 07:41, September 12, 2016 (UTC) I am unsure if Caliban really is as great as suggested; after all, although the weapons were ahead of time, remember that they were quite flimsy too. It was also not really well-controlled, so I argue that The Mouse could actually take advantage of these flaws, pushing Caliban around, possibly into a house robot, whom will show no mercy. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 14:23, September 12, 2016 (UTC) Eubank the Mouse seems faster, more controlled and could have gone further if it wasn't a stock robot I think. Caliban, on the other hand, has none of these qualities in my mind. Raz3r(talk) 18:34, September 12, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Caliban I think it's fair to assume that Caliban will use its full-body spinner, rather than its flails. With that guise, it seemed potent enough to deflect the lightweight top-heavy mouse if it makes a charge, which can't accurately push due to its awkward shape. Caliban to win on minor damage. ToastUltimatum 08:04, September 12, 2016 (UTC) ^Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 08:55, September 12, 2016 (UTC) Eubank only weighs 20kg, so there can't be decent armour there, Caliban might actually cause some damage. Combatwombat555 (talk) 10:18, September 12, 2016 (UTC) I can't see this being the most exciting battle ever...it's likely Caliban's spinning weapon wasn't that destructive being Series 2 and all...but it does have the weapon advantage over Eubank, who in turn can't really do anything. CrashBash (talk) 13:15, September 12, 2016 (UTC) On paper, Eubank seems rather suited to this battle - it has a solid wedge and speed, but it's so, so light that it really shouldn't be able to trouble Caliban. Nweston8 (talk) 13:41, September 12, 2016 (UTC) I can't say too much about Caliban's full-body spinner, since we never got a chance to see it in action thanks to its early defeat in Series 2. However, the flails look fast and will score it damage and aggression points over Eubank the Mouse, even if it only leaves light scratches at best. VulcansHowl (talk) 13:56, September 12, 2016 (UTC) So Caliban is using the flail we saw it with rather than the full body spinner? If it gets through, will it use it in later rounds? Should still win on damage regardless of which it uses. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:35, September 12, 2016 (UTC) Caliban to win on a judges decision, the weaponry is more aggressive and might be able to take an arm off. --Voyanuitoa (talk) 08:18, September 13, 2016 (UTC) Easy decision, at least Caliban could do damage. --Demon Of Tomorrow 16:44, September 13, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Caliban (3-9)

Oblark vs Dreadnaut XP-1

Oblark	Dreadnaut XP-1
Votes for Oblark I actually think Oblark will be able to flip Dreadnaut over, and they won't be able to right themselves after that. Jimlaad43(talk) 07:41, September 12, 2016 (UTC) If the flipper doesn't do the job, the axe will. ToastUltimatum 08:01, September 12, 2016 (UTC) Olbark is low enough to flip Dreadnaut over and can then give the finishing blow with that axe.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 08:56, September 12, 2016 (UTC) Weak fibreglass armour, a massive ground clearance, and no srimech, Oblark can do whatever here. Combatwombat555 (talk) 10:18, September 12, 2016 (UTC) And Dreadnaut...XP1 at any rate...is doomed to fall at the qualifiers yet again. Oblark was hardly the best robot around but it had potent weapons at least. CrashBash (talk) 13:16, September 12, 2016 (UTC) Oblark has plenty enough in its arsenal that it can win this battle in so many ways. Nweston8 (talk) 13:41, September 12, 2016 (UTC) Oblark has the flipping arm to exploit Dreadnaut's ground clearance and turn it over, and the axe to make holes through its fibreglass shell. No contest. VulcansHowl (talk) 13:56, September 12, 2016 (UTC) Oblark should eventually topple Dreadnaut XP-1, although I suspect the latter may prove difficult to flip at first, due to its high speeds. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 14:23, September 12, 2016 (UTC) As much as Oblark was a poor man's Mortis purpose built for the Armed Forces special (citation needed), it does at least have a lifter capable of overturning Dreadnaut. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:36, September 12, 2016 (UTC) You know, I'd forgotten Oblark existed. Having watched the Armed Forces Special, they may not be the best at the lifter/axe combo, but they don't need to be. Their weapons will be enough to win this. Raz3r(talk) 18:34, September 12, 2016 (UTC) It is amazing that despite its famously poor reliability Dreadnaught always made it past the first round in the UK Championship, here though Dreadnaught is more likely to break down before Oblark's flipper breaks. --Voyanuitoa (talk) 08:18, September 13, 2016 (UTC) Oblark was semi-decent, and I think will edge out a win against the unreliable Dreadnaut after toppling it over or just raining axe blows down on the fibreglass shell. --Demon Of Tomorrow 16:44, September 13, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Dreadnaut XP-1
Winner: Oblark (12-0)

Typhoon 2 vs Elvis

Typhoon 2	Elvis
Votes for Typhoon 2 hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha. Elvis has left the building, in a bin bag... Jimlaad43(talk) 06:36, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Well, at least Typhoon gets a free win here. --Demon Of Tomorrow 06:49, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Elvis somehow managed to get through to Round 2 in our last Ragnabot. Here, it'll probably get through the team's letterbox once Typhoon has done its number and returned to sender. CrashBash (talk) 07:25, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Amazingly Typhoon 2 faces one of the few lifters/flippers in the competition incapable of flipping it over. Also The Robot Wars Technical Manual states "The comical design of Elvis has a practical application which is worth bearing in mind: not only is a curved surface hard to grab and hold, it also deflects blows very nicely." Right...--Voyanuitoa (talk) 08:14, September 14, 2016 (UTC) One of the most-improved robots from Series 2, against one of the deadliest spinners from Series 7? An easy victory for Typhoon 2. VulcansHowl (talk) 09:03, September 14, 2016 (UTC) ...Yeah. Combatwombat555 (talk) 10:11, September 14, 2016 (UTC) In hindsight I regret voting for Elvis to beat Medusa Oblongata, I think I just saw a surprise gathering and decided to go with it for the sakes of fun. Something which appears to have happened with Spikasaurus... ToastUltimatum 10:38, September 14, 2016 (UTC) The King is dead. Nweston8 (talk) 13:06, September 14, 2016 (UTC) ...Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 13:31, September 14, 2016 (UTC) The joys of destruction. Thank you and good night.Raz3r(talk) 14:20, September 14, 2016 (UTC) The beginning of the road for one of the favourites for Ragnabot. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:53, September 14, 2016 (UTC) I'd make a pun if I could, but all I can think of are quotes from that Red Dwarf episode! Hogwild94 (talk) 17:28, September 14, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Elvis
Winner: Typhoon 2 (12-0)

Revolution 2 vs Axe-C-Dent 2

Revolution 2	Axe-C-Dent 2
Votes for Revolution 2 Two robots with solid looking spinners, but were let down by the sacrifices elsewhere required. However, in this battle, I don't see Revolution's being exploited, while a smack on the side of Axe-C-Dent with the spinners will either damage it or flip it onto the side, where it's came over. Jimlaad43(talk) 06:36, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Revolution 2 might be unwieldy, but I never saw Axe-C-Dent as a reliable machine. Revolution might also be unreliable, but I think Axe-C-Dent is more vulnerable to the threshing blades of Revolution than the other way around. --Demon Of Tomorrow 06:49, September 14, 2016 (UTC) I don't recall if we used Revolution 2 last time, but it certainly looks to have the more potent weapon of the two. Axe-C-Dent may have reached Round 2 last time, but it's not managing here. CrashBash (talk) 07:26, September 14, 2016 (UTC) While Axe-C-Dent may be able to get a few hits in, Rev 2 should be able to hit the exposed mechanism before it breaks down. --Voyanuitoa (talk) 08:14, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Neither robots’ blades worked to their full potential, but Revolution 2’s will at least have enough momentum to dent and cause a few gashes in Axe-C-Dent, as well as possibly breaking off Axe-C-Dent’s weapon. VulcansHowl (talk) 09:03, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Axe-C-Dent does look the sturdier of the two, and if it got around the back I could see Revolution 2 taking severe damage. However, I think a head-on collision is most likely, and in that case Revolution 2 certainly wins it. Heck, Revolution 2 might be able to just knock Axe-C-Dent onto its back. Combatwombat555 (talk) 10:11, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Revolution is ideal to cut the weapon chain on Axe-C-Dent, and puncture its very thin armour. It'll be interesting to see which Revolution performs better. ToastUltimatum 10:38, September 14, 2016 (UTC) A solid Revolution 2 hit should be enough to damage something major. Nweston8 (talk) 13:06, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Axe-C-Dent was never that reliable.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 13:32, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Two fairly weak machines, but Revolution 2 has a weapon that just gets in the way. It could even catch on to Axe-C-Dent and give Revolution 2 a chance at a pitting.Raz3r(talk) 14:20, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Same principal with these two, both similarly unreliable. And while I agree with SpaceManiac that Axe-C-Dent was unlucky S6, its weapon did fall off... Hogwild94 (talk) 17:29, September 14, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Axe-C-Dent 2 Remember guys that it was the original Axe-C-Dent that was far more unreliable; this version was unlucky that it met the lifter of Hydra. Since this version looked a bit more competent, I am just going for the surprise and say it gets a good whack on Revolution 2's side, causing the latter to break down. Regardless though, I like the design of Revolution 2, so I don't really mind the result, which is 10-1 in its favour so far. Hence, my vote probably won't make too much of a difference, in that case. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:53, September 14, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Revolution 2 (11-1)

Ansgar 3 vs Overdozer

Ansgar 3	Overdozer
Votes for Ansgar 3 Overdozer will be pummeled here, quite badly in fact. Jimlaad43(talk) 06:36, September 14, 2016 (UTC) rip boat :c --Demon Of Tomorrow 06:49, September 14, 2016 (UTC) ...and that's why you use MDF to make shelves. Sorry that was kinda lame, but Dara took all the good jokes. CrashBash (talk) 07:27, September 14, 2016 (UTC) MDF: Massive Damage Facilitator.--Voyanuitoa (talk) 08:14, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Ansgar will reduce Overdozer into splinters here. VulcansHowl (talk) 09:03, September 14, 2016 (UTC) I was thinking it would be good to see how Overdozer compared to early series robots, maybe even getting a decent run of battles going... And then it draws Ansgar 3. Thank you and good night, Overdozer. Combatwombat555 (talk) 10:11, September 14, 2016 (UTC) oh no a 2016 robot fails to qualify how could this be ToastUltimatum 10:38, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Wooden you believe it? Nweston8 (talk) 13:06, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Yeah...NEXT!Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 13:33, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Overdozer is barking up the wrong tree here, and will be chopped apart by Ansgar 3's blade.Raz3r(talk) 14:20, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Ansgar is the easy choice here. 321Annihilate (talk) 15:16, September 14, 2016 (UTC) No contest, but expect the Overdozer team to not only take it positively, but also to enter a better robot next time round. I have faith in them, especially after what they said post-battle. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:53, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Routine win for Ansgar here. Overdozer wouldn't look out of place coming out the doors in S2 though IMO. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:31, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Y'know if MDF is mounted correctly and thick enough, it can actually provide quite decent protection. It doesn't catch fire easily, despite being wood, the thickness factor helps, as spinners can't get through thicker material, and if mounted on a strong chassis, it actually works quite decently as armour. That said, I wouldn't exactly try it, and Overdozer proved, this wasn't the way to mount MDF onto your robot. RelicRaider (talk) 20:33, September 14, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Overdozer
Winner: Ansgar 3 (14-0)

Shredder Evolution vs Ron

Shredder Evolution	Ron
Votes for Shredder Evolution Ron will have all 4 wheels removed. Jimlaad43(talk) 06:36, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Shredder might not be the most damaging, but Ron is an easy target to cut apart. --Demon Of Tomorrow 06:49, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Ron falls in the qualifiers yet again. I have a feeling Shredder will be able to cause some damage to the tyres, and won't take much in return. I mean, it's two spinning discs against some spikes and a saw.... CrashBash (talk) 07:28, September 14, 2016 (UTC) A lack of any real offensive capability from Ron. --Voyanuitoa (talk) 08:14, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Shredder Evolution to run rings round Ron and maybe tear off the wheels. VulcansHowl (talk) 09:03, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Shredder Evo may not have been the most destructive for Series 7, but against a forgettable Series 2 machine with massively exposed wheels... Combatwombat555 (talk) 10:11, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Ron holds no advantage in any regard here. ToastUltimatum 10:38, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Shredder Evolution will keep cutting into Ron until it finally ceases to move. Nweston8 (talk) 13:06, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Juicy exposed wheels!Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 13:34, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Shredder Evolution can nip in and out at those wheels. They won't tear them off but you can be sure that Ron's traction will decrease.Raz3r(talk) 14:20, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Shredder would get those exposed wheels of Ron. 321Annihilate (talk) 15:18, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Considering Shredder Evolution caused some notable damage to Sub-Version, Barber-Ous and Infernal Contraption, I believe it should dominate Ron here. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:53, September 14, 2016 (UTC) The wheels might stay on, but certainly not intact. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:32, September 14, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Ron
Winner: Shredder Evolution (13-0)

X-Terminator 2 vs Ming 2

X-Terminator 2	Ming 2
Votes for X-Terminator 2 It will take more for Ming to get under X-Terminator than Firestorm had to do. Basically it's going to be a good battle, but X-Terminator will be dominant for most of it. Jimlaad43(talk) 06:36, September 14, 2016 (UTC) X-Terminator 2 is quite good, and seeing as I don't rate Ming 2 highly at all, I know where my decision is going. --Demon Of Tomorrow 06:49, September 14, 2016 (UTC) If I remember correctly, both these machines made it to the first round of the quarter-finals last time, so this is our first example of losing a big name early (well, big as in Top 64 anyway). Nonetheless, Ming needs to get quite far underneath to flip X-Terminator, and X-Terminator had a reasonably potent axe in its last few years of having one. Perhaps some tyre damage? CrashBash (talk) 07:31, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Both of Ming 2's losses were to spikes and hammers, a spiked axe that can self-right is one of the worst opponents it could face. XT2 to go for the tyres. --Voyanuitoa (talk) 08:14, September 14, 2016 (UTC) X-Terminator 2 will use its axe to puncture Ming 2’s tyres and drag it around, and Ming 2 wasn’t the most reliable member of the Ming dynasty, let's be honest. VulcansHowl (talk) 09:03, September 14, 2016 (UTC) That flat top, ouch... Combatwombat555 (talk) 10:11, September 14, 2016 (UTC) I'm quite pleased to see the fall of a Ming, they were always extremely plentiful. ToastUltimatum 10:38, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Ming 2 is a decent robot for Series 4, but that's all. It'll be comfortably disposed of in this one. Nweston8 (talk) 13:06, September 14, 2016 (UTC) The best and only good Ming about to fall to the powerful axe of XT2.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 13:38, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Not the strongest X-Terminator, but then it doesn't need to be. Ming 2 looks rather vulnerable to axes in my mind, and X-Terminator can push them around too.Raz3r(talk) 14:20, September 14, 2016 (UTC) XT on damage. 321Annihilate (talk) 15:20, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Had to been the Series 4 version of X-Terminator, which had a poor axe and an unreliable srimech, I probably would of voted in Ming 2. However, as proven against Frenzy, Ming 2 is very vulnerable to axe attacks due to its top, so the Series 6 X-Terminator should have no problems here. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:53, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Not convinced Ming 2 will be able to get under this X-Terminator enough to flip it, so a standard axe and push victory. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:34, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Even if it was the series 4 X-Terminator I'd still vote for it here, it was quick and pretty underrated as a pusher. Ming 2 was slow and its flipper was so high up it would struggle to get in underneath, let alone flip with the lack of baseplate on XT2. The ramming from the very very quick X-Terminator would probably put them into submission. And yes, I know it's the series 6 version, I just thought it would be a more interesting fight to imagine. RelicRaider (talk) 20:38, September 14, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Ming 2 Because it says XT2 I'm assuming Series 4 Version, and I can't see that robot defeating a low wedge with a lifting arm or that paper cut on a stick axe. If it's not a Series 4 XT, oh well the results are probably in. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 10:39, September 14, 2016 (UTC) It is the Series 6 version, the image carries more weight than the name. Jimlaad just wanted to separate it from Series 7's X-Terminator without putting (Series 6) in brackets. I believe "XT2" was written somewhere on the bodyshell in S6. To be fair I'd have voted for X-Terminator even if it wasn't Series 6. ToastUltimatum 10:42, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Personally, I've often called "X-Terminator 2" as displayed here as "X-Terminator 4", but what Toast says is right. This is the Series 6 incarnation. CrashBash (talk) 10:46, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Where multiple versions of robots appear, make sure you believe the picture, rather than the name. Jimlaad43(talk) 10:52, September 14, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: X-Terminator 2 (14-1)

Weeliwako vs ODT-Zero

Weeliwako	ODT-Zero
Votes for Weeliwako	Votes for ODT-Zero I think ODT-Zero is a bit more competent and could send Weeliwako down the pit. Jimlaad43(talk) 06:36, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Weeliwako was never great at control. ODT-Zero can just push the barrel down the pit. --Demon Of Tomorrow 06:49, September 14, 2016 (UTC) I've never really seen ODT in action, so maybe not the best of judges, but what worries me is how slow and ponderous Weeliwako is. I doubt it could cause much damage, and I'm pretty sure ODT wedging underneath will count more to aggression. CrashBash (talk) 07:32, September 14, 2016 (UTC) A pushing match between an axlebot and a wedge does not favour the axlebot. ODT-Zero to pit or win on a Judges Decision. --Voyanuitoa (talk) 08:14, September 14, 2016 (UTC) We never saw much of ODT-Zero’s lifter in action, but it should be controlled and persistent enough to push Weeliwako around and into the pit. VulcansHowl (talk) 09:03, September 14, 2016 (UTC) I struggle to see what Weeliwako can do here. Combatwombat555 (talk) 10:11, September 14, 2016 (UTC) ODT-Zero is one of those robots I quite rate for no good reason, just like Maximum Torque. It's max weight, wedge shaped, and armed with a lifter, it has the means to deal with Weeliwako minimum. ToastUltimatum 10:38, September 14, 2016 (UTC) ODT-Zero is a decent all-round robot; it has a good shape, decent speed and is controlled well, and with the battle in the 2016 arena, all of the aforementioned factors should see a comfortable - albeit not the most explosive - victory. Nweston8 (talk) 13:06, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Never watched any of the Dutch Wars so I'm just taking your words for it.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 13:35, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Agreed with Combatwombat.Raz3r(talk) 14:20, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Both robots aren't that amazing. But I'll go ODT Zero because it actually has a weapon. 321Annihilate (talk) 15:22, September 14, 2016 (UTC) ODT-Zero to me is competent enough to survive the attacks from Wheeliwacko, before pushing it into the pit. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:53, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Weeliwako is basically Gabriel with less momentum and aggression. The Dutch bot should be able to pit it a la Mace 2. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:35, September 14, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: ODT-Zero (0-13)

Thermidor 2 vs Widow's Revenge

Thermidor 2	Widow's Revenge
Votes for Thermidor 2 One flip. Jimlaad43(talk) 06:36, September 14, 2016 (UTC) One flip. --Demon Of Tomorrow 06:49, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Widow's Revenge falls at the qualifiers again, whilst Thermidor looks to repeat its success of last Ragnabot, perhaps. CrashBash (talk) 07:33, September 14, 2016 (UTC) It's a shame sometimes the 2016 arena is less favourable to flipping robots out of the arena. --Voyanuitoa (talk) 08:14, September 14, 2016 (UTC) A one-flip KO from Thermidor 2. VulcansHowl (talk) 09:03, September 14, 2016 (UTC) One flip. Combatwombat555 (talk) 10:11, September 14, 2016 (UTC) I really wish we got to see more of Thermidor in the 2016 series, it's hard to even judge it now. ToastUltimatum 10:38, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Thermidor 2 will end this in no time. Nweston8 (talk) 13:06, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Let's just hope Thermie doesn't kill itself.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) No problems here. A single flip is all that's needed.Raz3r(talk) 14:20, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Thermidor is a great flipper, Widows Revenge has no shrimech. I think the choice is obvious.321Annihilate (talk) 15:24, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Potential OotA here. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:53, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Agree that we didn't see enough of this Thermidor 2 to accurately be able to understand whit it can de. No discussion here though. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:36, September 14, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Widow's Revenge
Winner: Thermidor 2 (13-0)

Herbinator vs Terror Australis

Herbinator	Terror Australis
Votes for Herbinator I suppose eliminating an immobile robot in the qualifiers is fair. Jimlaad43(talk) 06:36, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Even if Terror Australis did move, I don't think it would've done much anyway. Herbinator gets a free win. --Demon Of Tomorrow 06:49, September 14, 2016 (UTC) A battle between two robots who fell in the qualifiers last time, so one is guaranteed to make it to the competition proper. Consider this...even when it could move, Terror Australis could only reach three miles per hour, apparantly. That is not going to bode well, as Herbinator was a lot perkier than that. CrashBash (talk) 07:35, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Herbinator could probably finish this with a couple of flips. --Voyanuitoa (talk) 08:14, September 14, 2016 (UTC) If Terror Australis is able to get going at all, I can see Herbinator being able to get underneath it, push it around and flip it over and over until it breaks down. Back to Ayers Rock again for Terror Australis, I suppose. VulcansHowl (talk) 09:03, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Terror Australis, even if it works, had a tiny saw blade which really won't do much to a relatively competent machine. Combatwombat555 (talk) 10:11, September 14, 2016 (UTC) See you later, Herbinator! Later in the tournament, that is. ToastUltimatum 10:38, September 14, 2016 (UTC) I've always liked the look of Herbinator. Sure, we barely managed to see it in competitive action, but when Shunt righted it, it showed good speed and its weapon doesn't seem bad either. I hope it can do at least OK in this tournament, although this battle is hardly the most strenuous of starts. Nweston8 (talk) 13:06, September 14, 2016 (UTC) What everyone else said.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 13:39, September 14, 2016 (UTC) I think Terror Australis may be the worst post-Series 2 robot ever. Then again, I didn't see it much. Doesn't matter either way, Herbinator will dominate this.Raz3r(talk) 14:20, September 14, 2016 (UTC) It would be close. But I think Herbinator would get it on aggression. 321Annihilate (talk) 15:25, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Even if Terror Australis could move, I doubt it would affect the battle overall. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:53, September 14, 2016 (UTC) Good to see Herbinator go through here after its six second appearance in the Wiki S7. BTW, will Nemesis-Terror Australis 2 be competing in this as well? Hogwild94 (talk) 17:38, September 14, 2016 (UTC) No, just Nemesis as normal. Jimlaad43(talk) 18:34, September 14, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Terror Australis
Winner: Herbinator (13-0)

Ghetto-bot vs Chip

Ghetto-bot	Chip
Votes for Ghetto-bot	Votes for Chip Spawn Again may have robbed us of much of a chance to judge Chip, but it should be much better than Ghetto-bot. Jimlaad43(talk) 17:06, September 16, 2016 (UTC) If I recall correctly Chip was a heat-finalist last time, so we obviously judged it quite well...or it just had some really weak opposition. Either way, Ghetto-Bot falls under that category. CrashBash (talk) 17:19, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Anarchy certainly isn't weak opposition. ToastUltimatum 22:35, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Unfortunately, I only noted down how far they reached, not who they fought. That would have really messed up my XL spreadsheet. CrashBash (talk) 08:15, September 17, 2016 (UTC) I can't see what Ghetto-bot can do here. Raz3r(talk) 17:24, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Chip should finally have a chance to prove how potent its disc is, considering how little luck it had in Series 7. VulcansHowl (talk) 17:36, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Can't really gauge Chip's potential given how little we saw it it, but its disc will probably be about on a par with Mortis' axe. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:00, September 16, 2016 (UTC) This Chip, unlike the New Blood version, looks sleek. Quick and deadly, I feel it will prove too much for Ghetto-bot to handle. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 18:14, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Chip's weapon will mangle Ghetto bot atleast but enough to immobilise it? maybe not.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 19:35, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Half the weight and no weapons to speak of, Ghetto-bot is going to struggle here. Combatwombat555 (talk) 21:01, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Snoooooooooooooooop ToastUltimatum 22:35, September 16, 2016 (UTC) No offensive capabilities from Ghetto-bot leaves it with no way to win this battle. --Voyanuitoa (talk) 07:42, September 17, 2016 (UTC) Borderline middleweight wedge against a rather good spinner... Hmmmmmmmm... --Demon Of Tomorrow 08:12, September 17, 2016 (UTC) Chip is supposed to be 10 times more powerful than Hypno-Disc, Ghetto-Bot, Ghetto-BITS!--Nononsensecapeesh (talk) 11:38, September 17, 2016 (UTC) Ghetto-Bot will be completely sliced to pieces. Nweston8 (talk) 13:54, September 17, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Chip (0-13)

Gemini vs Pinser

Gemini	Pinser
Votes for Gemini Does Pinser even have a Srimech? Jimlaad43(talk) 17:06, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Given how hard Gemini made things for Razer, THE crusher robot, I don't think Pinser is going to pose much issue. Especially if it can get it over to the flame pit. CrashBash (talk) 17:20, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Pinser doesn't have the power or the precision that Razer had to beat Gemini. It also can't self-right. Raz3r(talk) 17:25, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Even with the danger of the wheely bars, Gemini should be able to get the one killer flip it needs to win this one. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:01, September 16, 2016 (UTC) If Gemini can get a flip in, it's won.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 19:37, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Gemini's speed should allow it to get the flip in that it needs. --Voyanuitoa (talk) 07:42, September 17, 2016 (UTC) Gemini might have the wheely bars, but I don't think they will be a hindrance for it in this battle. I think they will be able to annoy Pinser until flipping it over and leaving it for dead. --Demon Of Tomorrow 08:12, September 17, 2016 (UTC) A smaller and less reliable version of Razer with no srimech to boot, sorry Pinser, the clusterbot reigns supreme.--Nononsensecapeesh (talk) 11:40, September 17, 2016 (UTC) Pinsir is a really, really good robot, and its low ground clearance will hinder Gemini, but only for so long. Nweston8 (talk) 13:54, September 17, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Pinser Pinser in my opinion is one of the mos unlucky and underrated robots ever I always thought it was the best robot to never win a fight I reckon it could win this easy.--Botomatic1000 (talk) 17:23, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Pinser appears to have a low ground clearance, which the Gemini twins will struggle to exploit. Plus, what’s the chance of having one – or both – of the twins getting beached on their wheelie bars trying to flip Pinser? History repeats itself, I’m afraid, no matter how much more potent Gemini is. VulcansHowl (talk) 17:36, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Going for the surprise here. For a start, Gemini had no wheelie bars in its battle against Razer, which will prove a factor here. Secondly, although Pinser has no srimech, look how low to the ground it is. Heck, I could argue it is more difficult to flip Pinser than it is Razer! Finally, as Botomatic stated above, Pinser got really unlucky in its two battles and its crushing power was something to fear. Hence, I actually do not see what Gemini could do here; apart from getting crushed or being stranded on its wheelie bars. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 18:14, September 16, 2016 (UTC) I'm torn on this one. Both robots can win the battle with a single attack. As Pinser is in the voting minority, I will trust its super-low ground clearance in comparison to the wheelying Gemini, and it will get the killer crush. ToastUltimatum 23:09, September 16, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Gemini (9-4)

Lightning vs The Witch

Lightning	The Witch
Votes for Lightning Hubble, bubble, toil and pit. Jimlaad43(talk) 17:06, September 16, 2016 (UTC) I'm seeing an overbalancing flip as The Witch falls in the qualifiers again. CrashBash (talk) 17:21, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Ding dong The Witch is dead. Raz3r(talk) 17:26, September 16, 2016 (UTC) A spell-binding performance from Lightning. The Witch, though, will probably end up toppled on its hat and put in the cauldron that is the pit…VulcansHowl (talk) 17:36, September 16, 2016 (UTC) I remember someone on YouTube once saying he'd love to see The Witch get flipped or pitted; now's his chance to see both! Hogwild94 (talk) 18:02, September 16, 2016 (UTC) I like The Witch to be honest, visually entertaining robots like it should return to the 2017 series should there be one. No contest here though. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 18:14, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Yeah....Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 19:42, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Easy tip over. Combatwombat555 (talk) 21:01, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Quick as a flash ToastUltimatum 22:47, September 16, 2016 (UTC) A foregone conclusion. --Voyanuitoa (talk) 07:42, September 17, 2016 (UTC) I'm more interested as to how the Witch weighed around 88 kilos in Series 3... --Demon Of Tomorrow 08:12, September 17, 2016 (UTC) Lightning could just charge underneath The Witch and topple it over without even using its weapon.--Nononsensecapeesh (talk) 11:41, September 17, 2016 (UTC) Ding-dong, The Witch is immobilised. Nweston8 (talk) 13:54, September 17, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for The Witch
Winner: Lightning (13-0)

Pyramid of Chaos vs Tough as Nails

Pyramid of Chaos	Tough as Nails
Votes for Pyramid of Chaos	Votes for Tough as Nails Bets on how many seconds until PoC is in the pit? I'm going for 12. Jimlaad43(talk) 17:06, September 16, 2016 (UTC) 7. CrashBash (talk) 17:21, September 16, 2016 (UTC) I'll go with 14. Raz3r(talk) 17:22, September 16, 2016 (UTC) About 20 is the most realistic I can expect from Tough as Nails. VulcansHowl (talk) 17:36, September 16, 2016 (UTC) No discussion here. 12 seconds sound about right. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:03, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Ten seconds in my opinion, as Pyramid of Chaos seems to have no response to the pushing power of Tough as Nails. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 18:14, September 16, 2016 (UTC) 15 secs at least.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 19:39, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Depends on start position and how quickly it can get to the pit release, but 20 seconds. Combatwombat555 (talk) 21:01, September 16, 2016 (UTC) I'll presume a bit of hesitancy as the quickest pitting was part of a 3-way, and say 32 seconds. ToastUltimatum 22:48, September 16, 2016 (UTC) I'll say 27 seconds. --Voyanuitoa (talk) 07:42, September 17, 2016 (UTC) I'm going for 16.43 seconds. Oh wait, this isn't the sumo... --Demon Of Tomorrow 08:12, September 17, 2016 (UTC) Even that front arm won't impede TAN's mobility, POC in the Pit.--Nononsensecapeesh (talk) 11:42, September 17, 2016 (UTC) A comfortable victory for TaN. Nweston8 (talk) 13:54, September 17, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Tough as Nails (0-13)

Terminal Ferocity vs Infernal Contraption

Terminal Ferocity	Infernal Contraption
Votes for Terminal Ferocity	Votes for Infernal Contraption Savour this, a battle Infernal Contraption could actually win through skill, rather than luck. Jimlaad43(talk) 17:06, September 16, 2016 (UTC) A big spinny drum thing, versus a chainsaw, a weapon that was obsolete by War 1, let alone the reboot. CrashBash (talk) 17:23, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Infernal Contraption will be much more aggressive and damaging, if it can get the drum pointing the right way and it doesn’t go careering into the pit. VulcansHowl (talk) 17:36, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Infernal Contraption is far too small to be troubled by Terminal Ferocity's chainshaw, and totally the wrong shape for the 'elevator', so a win on damage. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:04, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Infernal Contraption's design may mean that it might not be able to use its spinner to great effect at first. Eventually, though, the damage will take its toll, and Terminal Ferocity has no way of defending itself. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 18:14, September 16, 2016 (UTC) So glad to see this robot win something after all it did beast Turbulence...Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 19:39, September 16, 2016 (UTC) The 2016 series hasn't improved my opinion of Infernal Contraption, but it's got this battle sewn up. Combatwombat555 (talk) 21:01, September 16, 2016 (UTC) I know Infernal Contraption had a win before its match with Turbulence, yet learning the outcome pleased me greatly. ToastUltimatum 22:49, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Infernal Contraption will be able to avoid the chainsaw and should get in the hits it needs. --Voyanuitoa (talk) 07:42, September 17, 2016 (UTC) Infernal Contraption has more offensive capabilities than that of Terminal Ferocity, which will allow them to edge the win on a judges' decision. --Demon Of Tomorrow 08:12, September 17, 2016 (UTC) IC will be too fast and too nippy for TF, even if it goes to the judges, IC will win easily.--Nononsensecapeesh (talk) 11:43, September 17, 2016 (UTC) Infernal Contraption will win via damage and aggression, even if they don't knock Terminal Ferocity out. Nweston8 (talk) 13:54, September 17, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Infernal Contraption (0-12)

Or Te vs Miss Ile

Or Te	Miss Ile
Votes for Or Te I highly doubt Miss Ile can knock the link out of Or Te, who will flip to it's hearts content. Jimlaad43(talk) 17:06, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Yeah, Or Te should redeem itself here. As a Series 3 robot, designed when the format was switched to all-combat after all the robots had qualified, Miss Ile has an unfortunately high ground clearance that Or Te can exploit. CrashBash (talk) 17:27, September 16, 2016 (UTC) If its aerial doesn’t break, Or Te should easily dispose of Miss Ile, as we never saw Miss Ile self-right using that lifting arm at the back. VulcansHowl (talk) 17:36, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Or Te was unlucky in the series; on working form, it should win this one, especially given Miss Ile's rear ground clearance. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:05, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Controversial, I know, but once we do the 2016 Audited series, I may bin Or Te. It is probably a great robot, but the problem is we have no idea how good it is considering it broke down in a couple of blows. Here though, it shouldn't be too difficult, despite the lack of information surrounding it, as Miss Ile cannot self-right. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 18:14, September 16, 2016 (UTC) The easiest decision so far in the qualifiers. Except Ansgar 3 vs Overdozer and Typhoon 2 vs Elvis. Such mayhem... Ahem. Or Te will dominate this fight and flip Miss Ile all around the arena. Raz3r(talk) 18:59, September 16, 2016 (UTC) The all of a sudden the link flies out!Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 19:42, September 16, 2016 (UTC) One flip. Combatwombat555 (talk) 21:01, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Supernova will come in and knock out Miss Ile on Or Te's behalf. ToastUltimatum 22:51, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Or Te is going to be a bit of an unknown as we didn't see to much of it, but here one flip is all it needs. --Voyanuitoa (talk) 07:57, September 17, 2016 (UTC) Well, this shouldn't be too hard... --Demon Of Tomorrow 08:12, September 17, 2016 (UTC) Or Te won't be that vulnerable against a Series 3 Competitor, just one flip will do it.--Nononsensecapeesh (talk) 11:44, September 17, 2016 (UTC) Obviously it's hard to judge Or Te, but I hope the link excuse won't be used easily for its future battles. Nweston8 (talk) 13:54, September 17, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Miss Ile
Winner: Or Te (13-0)

Mechaniac vs Juggernot 2

Mechaniac	Juggernot 2
Votes for Mechaniac Wow, Mechaniac should easily dominate this battle. Jimlaad43(talk) 17:06, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Juggernot was in the main Ragnabot last time, although I'd hazard a guess that's because it didn't go through qualifying. Mechaniac could just roll underneath and it'd overturn. CrashBash (talk) 17:28, September 16, 2016 (UTC) One flip is all it will take for Mechaniac to topple Juggernot 2. VulcansHowl (talk) 17:36, September 16, 2016 (UTC) And after (possibly) its first ever win of any sort in my Audited S5, it's back to business as usual for Juggernot. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:06, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Juggernot 2 may have actually been a better robot had (according to Bulldog Breed's Tony Somerfield), it had not been taken apart due to weight issues. Here, one flip of death will do. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 18:14, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Juggernot 2 reminds me of my friends when they get drunk at sixth-form parties: slow, looks unbalanced, will probably fall over, won't get back up until the night is done, and has no answers. It also has the ground clearance of a double-decker bus to go with it, so there is that. Even Terror Australis could give it a run for its money. If they got off the starting block that is. Raz3r(talk) 18:54, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Yeah, two poor flippers against each other :/ Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 19:41, September 16, 2016 (UTC) I wouldn't say by any means that Mechaniac's flipper was poor; after all, it did seem to pack some punch. It just happened to face a robot that the robot overall could not beat. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 20:15, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Mechaniac's not the best robot ever, but it's in a different league to Juggernot 2. Combatwombat555 (talk) 21:01, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Not only did Mechaniac draw Supernova on Robot Wars, it also had to fight Gravity in its qualifier. Never got a break. ToastUltimatum 22:52, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Juggernot 2 to be tossed around like a caber. --Voyanuitoa (talk) 07:57, September 17, 2016 (UTC) The day Juggernot 2 wins a tournament is the day I become the president of the US. --Demon Of Tomorrow 08:12, September 17, 2016 (UTC) Jugger-Not a good robot for a reason, even if the Austrian bot's flipper really isn't that powerful, it could still easily topple the lumbering Scottish bot.--Nononsensecapeesh (talk) 11:46, September 17, 2016 (UTC) Mechaniac with a comfortable win. Nweston8 (talk) 13:54, September 17, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Juggernot 2
Winner: Mechaniac (13-0)

Panic Attack vs Hydrotec

Panic Attack	Hydrotec
Votes for Panic Attack Kim will pit Hydrotec before you can work out the Scrabble Score of "Xherdan Shaqiri". By the way, this is the only Panic Attack version that will fight. For the sake of one more qualifier battle, I could include Panic Attack Gold if enough people want it. I'll make a vote on the discussion page, not here. (37) Jimlaad43(talk) 17:06, September 16, 2016 (UTC) I'm indifferent, just to let you know in advance, so likely I won't vote unless I have to. Either way, methinks Panic Attack has a significant advantage here. CrashBash (talk) 17:30, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Knowing Kim Davis’ driving skills and tactics in Series 5/Extreme 1, Panic Attack will simply lift, carry and drop Hydrotec down the pit with ease. VulcansHowl (talk) 17:36, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Routine pick-up-and-pit win for Kim Davis here. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:07, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Panic Attack is very low to the ground, which means I doubt Hydrotec could really get underneath with its lifter. Hence, Panic Attack to get underneath and easily pit its opponent. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 18:14, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Hydrotec has an interesting design, but that won't save it from Kim Davis' excellent driving. Raz3r(talk) 18:57, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Panic Attack to put a good tactic to use and steer Hydrotec to the pit.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 19:43, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Panic Attack to do as Panic Attack does. Combatwombat555 (talk) 21:01, September 16, 2016 (UTC) I think Hydrotec can survive until a Producers' Decision, but lose. No Judges in qualifier battles! ToastUltimatum 22:54, September 16, 2016 (UTC) Panic Attack to lift and pit. --Voyanuitoa (talk) 07:57, September 17, 2016 (UTC) I think Hydrotec's weapons look unwieldy, which will be a problem as Panic Attack can just slide underneath Hydrotec, lift them up and then pit them. --Demon Of Tomorrow 08:12, September 17, 2016 (UTC) Panic Attack's signature move will prevail here, it beat Mortis and so it should have no problem beating a Swiss imitation of Mortis.--Nononsensecapeesh (talk) 11:48, September 17, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Hydrotec It won't affect the overall result, but, hey, I'm going for Hydrotec. The front of Hydrotec comes out far from the body of the robot, and can probably slide underneath Panic Attack's forks and then enable them to lift Kim's machine. A lot depends on if they keep the front towards Panic Attack most of the time, but the robot is nimble enough to do it. Nweston8 (talk) 13:54, September 17, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Panic Attack (12-1)

Foxic vs Tartarus

Foxic	Tartarus
Votes for Foxic Tartarus is a robot that Foxic should be able to push. They'll at least get under them and could potentially tip the Dutch robot over. Jimlaad43(talk) 14:48, September 18, 2016 (UTC) (insert long, low, frustrated sigh here) Well, to Foxic's credit, it at least has a working weapon and a low ground clearance. CrashBash (talk) 15:14, September 18, 2016 (UTC) I really don't like Foxic, but that doesn't mean I won't vote for it. It should be able to avoid Tartarus' weapons and push them around the Arena, maybe into the pit, and win. Unless they go after the House Robots again for no reason. Raz3r(talk) 15:17, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Low scoop to shunt Tartarus around.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 15:27, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Am I correct that the hatred towards Foxic is because of it being completely passive in its melee, as well as the horrible battle it had against M.R. Speed Squared? Anyhow, Foxic doesn't need to push Tartarus around, as it has a lifter that can topple the latter machine over. Tartarus has no srimech, so Foxic qualifies cleanly for Ragnabot 2. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:35, September 18, 2016 (UTC) That's part of my reason for disliking it. The other part was because of the fact it looked the least impressive of all the robots going in, to which I was told I was judging it too early, only to then turn out to be even WORSE than I already imagined, since it barely did anything in any of its battles, had control issues up the Weeliwako and just the fact that I was subjected to this thing getting its bumper kicked for half the heat due to the format. Draven and Chimera wouldn't have done any better but they'd be much more interesting to watch. On top of the facts mentioned above. Not helped by the fact the captain was clearly trying to be the next Plunderbird/Chromalot captain, but he only came across as a total jerk. Needed some sunglasses. CrashBash (talk) 15:58, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Yeah I have the same reasoning as CrashBash really. But I will add this though, people seem to tell me that Foxic is "really impressive" simply due to the fact that is withstood Last Rites. May I remind everyone that there's a difference between surviving and winning. Foxic may have survived BUT just like 2016 series it hardly moved an inch and the fact that people tell me it's "impressive" simply for that and ignoring that Foxic didn't do well at all nor has it really won any battles in the live events themselves, it's staggering. I will say this though I don't hate the team they're nice guys (or so I've heard), just the robot.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 17:03, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Oh, I'm sure the team are nice, but what I'm assuming was a deliberate attempt to be the next Plunderbird was just let down by the fact they looked like generic roboteer number 42. Yeah, the Plunderbird team were jerks, but that was part of their act and you could just tell from their get-up alone they didn't mean it. Same with Chromalot. In part this is the one thing I didn't like about the first series of Extreme. Yeah, it was acted, but at the time it just came across as a bunch of normally nice guys suddenly being dicks to each other for no reason. I look at Behemoth's team, and I see a bunch of guys who are generally very compassionate if perhaps a little overconfident with their abilities, not a bunch of holier-than-thou thugs who describe every other robot as "pants" the way they were portrayed in Extreme 1. It just...doesn't sit well with me. Foxic's team is really no different. CrashBash (talk) 17:13, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Foxic managed to survive Robogames. That is more than I can say of Tartarus, who will be toppled over. --Demon Of Tomorrow 17:00, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Despite my criticisms of Foxic’s reliability, I am assuming that its drive motors will be working properly first time out here, so it will end up pushing Tartarus around until it becomes immobilised. VulcansHowl (talk) 17:38, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Well Foxic should win this one. Even if its weapons don't work, it should win. What can Tartarus do to it? Hogwild94 (talk) 18:23, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Absolutely nothing that Tartarus can do here. Foxic will win, and hopefully get it done with quickly, because if not, this could drag on and not be the best watch in the world. Nweston8 (talk) 14:02, September 19, 2016 (UTC) And a controversial split Judges' decision goes to... Foxic!! ToastUltimatum 15:06, September 19, 2016 (UTC) What actually is Tartarus' weapon? Is the 'mouth' supposed to be it? Combatwombat555 (talk) 17:37, September 19, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Tartarus
Winner: Foxic (11-0)

Judge Shred 2½ vs Twister (Dutch)

Judge Shred 2½	Twister (Dutch)
Votes for Judge Shred 2½ I plan to only use brackets to distinguish between robots that have the same name but are from different teams, such as Infinity and Zeus. That said, the Series 7 version of Twister will be called Twister 2 (Dutch). Anyhow, Twister will deal some big damage, but the Judge wasn't bad at absorbing it, and the disc isn't low enough to damage the base of the flipper, so Judge Shred 2(I hate this half that I have to copy and paste each time)½ will be able to tip the naturally imbalanced Twister over. Jimlaad43(talk) 14:48, September 18, 2016 (UTC) This incarnation of Twister is pretty much let down by its own stability, so if Judge Shred 2.5 (yeah, whatcha gonna do about THAT!?) can get underneath, and it likely can, it's going over. CrashBash (talk) 15:16, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Does Twister even have a srimech? Even if it does, I don't expect Twister will be tearing the Judge to pieces here, although it will still cause damage. I expect Judge Shred to be more aggressive though, and should be able to flip Twister and leave them in a vulnerable position, either for the House Robots or a hazard. Raz3r(talk) 15:20, September 18, 2016 (UTC) If this Twister hasn't got a scrimech then it will be flipped and left for dead. Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 15:29, September 18, 2016 (UTC) The Dutch Twister was devastating, sure, but it was let down by its own stability, an issue that I think Judge Shred 2.5 can capitalise on. Twister will be flipped over and done for, which is a shame seeing as it is a rather good 'bot... --Demon Of Tomorrow 17:00, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Twister might land a few dents and gashes in Judge Shred 2½, but like Jimlaad says, I feel that Judge Shred will take advantage of the Dutch Series 2 Twister’s balancing issues and tip it over at the earliest opportunity. VulcansHowl (talk) 17:38, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Wrong shaped robot for a blade at that angle. One flip should do it.Hogwild94 (talk) 18:24, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Judgeshred has never been one to withstand big hits, but Twister's instability and Judgeshred 2½'s balance and control should mean that it can topple Twister at some point. Nweston8 (talk) 14:02, September 19, 2016 (UTC) From what I've seen of this version of Twister it was pretty destructive, but as it's been said Judge Shred 2.5 is just an awkward shape to hit with such a weapon, I wouldn't be surprised if it threw itself over if it made contact. Plus it wasn't the most stable of designs... Combatwombat555 (talk) 17:37, September 19, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Twister (Dutch) This Dutch machine would thrash around Judge Shred with relative ease. --Botomatic1000 (talk) 14:50, September 18, 2016 (UTC) I was going to vote Judge Shred 2½, but I conducted a bit more research, and have changed sides as a result. This was because of two things; first, although Twister's design makes it vulnerable to flippers, its weapon is deadly, possibly on par with 259's disc. Second, Judge Shred 2½ may have a flipper, but it was prone to getting easily damaged by discs, as proven against 259. In fact, Judge Shred½ overall suffered badly against spinners, so I suspect a few blows will be enough to cause it to break down. Twister goes through. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:49, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Judge Shred 2½ survived the fight with 259, but it didn't manage the win. I'll give Twister the benefit of the doubt. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 05:27, September 19, 2016 (UTC) Nah, Judge Shred 2½ broke down against 259, before finally being pitted by Growler. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 12:13, September 19, 2016 (UTC) Having both versions of Dutch Twister feels somewhat unnecessary, so I hope Judge Shred goes through, but I have to vote with my head, an overhead spinner could make quick work of Judge Shred's weak top. ToastUltimatum 15:06, September 19, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Judge Shred 2½ (9-4)

Bonk vs Schumey Too

Bonk	Schumey Too
Votes for Bonk Any jokes about Schumey having a sore head will result in an instant revoking of your right to vote in the rest of this entire tournament or more. Jimlaad43(talk) 14:48, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Indeed, because what Michael Schumacher is suffering from at the moment is absolutely horrible. Keep fighting Michael. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:14, September 18, 2016 (UTC) It's then you realise the picture we have of Schumey Too is of it about to fall down the pit and you think "yeah, that says way too much". To be fair, Schumey has decent weapons and its forklifts can at least get under and lift Bonk, but I just don't trust its poor control. CrashBash (talk) 15:18, September 18, 2016 (UTC) While what we saw of Bonk wasn't impressive, neither were Schumey Too. Bonk may not even need its axe, and it is almost certainly more controlled. Raz3r(talk) 15:22, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Bonk had back luck it it debut series but here it may shine... for now.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 15:30, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Schumey Too wasn't too bad; it had a greater lifter and a decent top speed for Series 3 after all. And the image doesn't really reflect what truely happened in its only battle. This is because the dreaded arena spikes of doom caused the controller to have to move away from it, or suffer severe damage. This was whereby The Steel Avenger took advantage and won. Here, however, this shouldn't be too difficult for Bonk; if the Series 3 version of The Steel Avenger could destroy a panel off Schumey Too, Bonk's axe should have no trouble. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:40, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Bonk has the axe to damage Schumey Too’s armour, and the superior speed. However, Schumey Too has the lifter to get underneath Bonk and possibly flip it over, so it should be close if Schumey’s Series 3 battle is anything to go by. But Bonk will be more aggressive if it goes to the judges. VulcansHowl (talk) 17:38, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Is that really the best photo of Schumey Too we have? Bonk will win this one due to having better more experienced drivers and more potent weaponry. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:27, September 18, 2016 (UTC) We definitely do have a better image of Schumey Too, but too late now lol ToastUltimatum 15:06, September 19, 2016 (UTC) I feel that Bonk's a good shape for shoving Shumey Too around, and that axe (which should be working) should be pretty reasonable against Series 3 armour. Combatwombat555 (talk) 17:37, September 19, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Schumey Too I actually think Schumey Too has the tools to do something here. It's aggressive and has a weapon that can control Bonk - which has trouble with its own weapon as well. Maybe it's a bit of a longshot, but Schumey Too really isn't a bad robot at all. Nweston8 (talk) 14:02, September 19, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Bonk (9-1)

The Alien vs Joker

The Alien	Joker
Votes for The Alien Alien vs Joker, is this the attempt to remedy the calamity of Batman vs Superman? Jimlaad43(talk) 14:48, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Alien is a favourite of mine and so long as his weapon holds up he should dominate this.--Botomatic1000 (talk) 14:54, September 18, 2016 (UTC) The Alien may have suffered badly against spinners, but Joker was not well built at all. Henceforth, The Alien should win this by causing enough damage to either Joker's wheels or the exposed removable link. Speaking of which, I honestly thought Joker was a loanerbot, but it turns out I am wrong on this matter. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:17, September 18, 2016 (UTC) The robot originally called Joker (I.E. Humdrum) was a loanerbot. This is the actual robot, though. CrashBash (talk) 15:26, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Somewhere along the lines, Joker's power link is going to get knocked out. I can guarantee that. Hence it falls at the qualifiers yet again. CrashBash (talk) 15:19, September 18, 2016 (UTC) When, and I mean when, The Alien gets round the back of Joker, it should only take one hit to knock out that safety link. Raz3r(talk) 15:25, September 18, 2016 (UTC) The Alien wasn't that bad in my opinion and I'm sure it can survive Joker.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 15:32, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Alien was competent. Joker went 0-5. Figure it out. --Demon Of Tomorrow 17:00, September 18, 2016 (UTC) The Alien will make sure to knock Joker’s link out on its first few hits. VulcansHowl (talk) 17:38, September 18, 2016 (UTC) From the makers of Alien vs Predator, it's Alien vs The Joker! Alien's blade seems more potent. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:28, September 18, 2016 (UTC) The Alien should be able to come out better than Joker from what should be a big first hit. Nweston8 (talk) 14:02, September 19, 2016 (UTC) Joker is sad, because it looks better than its 0-5 record, and they actually survived a long time against Panzer Mk 4 before falling due to being its target, and that was the battle it was always meant to lose. But I still don't trust it to beat a quality robot like The Alien. ToastUltimatum 15:06, September 19, 2016 (UTC) If The Alien gets around the back, Joker's link is so exposed. Combatwombat555 (talk) 17:37, September 19, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Joker
Winner: The Alien (12-0)

Pika 2 vs Vader

Pika 2	Vader
Votes for Pika 2	Votes for Vader Pikachu vs Darth Vader. Damn random.org, you're throwing out some pop culture head-to-heads that could only be sorted out by Robot Wars! I suppose you could class Darth as a Dark/Psychic Pokemon, and he would easily crush Pikachu, regardless of type matchup. Wild theory of mine: I think the Pokemon Lucario is based on Luke Skywalker. Tell me I'm wrong now you've seen that. Jimlaad43(talk) 14:48, September 18, 2016 (UTC) So, basically, if Luke Skywalker = Lucario, then Darth Vader = Malamar? OK, that works. CrashBash (talk) 15:21, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Vader did quite well last time. Pika didn't, but then we were only using Pika 3. Pika 2, however, falls in the same spot because I just feel Vader has the better flywheel and is the more robust overall. CrashBash (talk) 15:21, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Vader can target Pika 2's sides for damage, and choke the life force out of them. The force is strong with this one, but for how long? We'll have to wait and see who it faces in the next round. Raz3r(talk) 15:27, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Vader will shred Pika apart and leave it battered.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 15:33, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Similar weapons here, but Vader should dominate this. After all, Pika 2's wheels are very exposed, and Vader's blade is quite deadly. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:42, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Vader has a good target to attack in the form of Pika's exposed wheels. That will pretty much seal the victory for Vader. --Demon Of Tomorrow 17:00, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Poor Pika 2 will feel the force of Vader’s disc, in both senses of the word. VulcansHowl (talk) 17:38, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Yeouch, those exposed wheels are doomed. Lucky its just Vader, not 259. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:29, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Pika 2 is a solid robot, but just has too many weak spots to be able to prevent Vader winning this one. Nweston8 (talk) 14:02, September 19, 2016 (UTC) The Pokémon Goes... ToastUltimatum 15:06, September 19, 2016 (UTC) Exposed wheels, and Vader's got the superior disc. Combatwombat555 (talk) 17:37, September 19, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Vader (0-11)

RT81 vs Demolition Demon 2

RT81	Demolition Demon 2
Votes for RT81	Votes for Demolition Demon 2 This fight would be extremely dull, but seeing as DD2 would move somewhat competently, they'd get the vote, if the House Robots hadn't got bored and shredded RT81 by then. Jimlaad43(talk) 14:48, September 18, 2016 (UTC) I can't think of anything to say that Jim hasn't already said. CrashBash (talk) 15:22, September 18, 2016 (UTC) If only Barber-Ous could face either of these two robots. Knowing my luck, Random.org. will probably make it face Carbide or another almightly powerful spinner. Anyhow, Demolition Demon 2 to push RT81 around the arena, whereby I suspect a knock out will eventually happen. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:31, September 18, 2016 (UTC) I think almost anything can defeat RT81.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 15:34, September 18, 2016 (UTC) You wouldn't think a mediocre Series 3 robot could beat a New Blood competitor, but seeing as the New Blood competitor in question has a terrible weapon, terrible armour, terrible speed and terrible terribleness, you can see why. The fastest it moved was when Mr Psycho pushed it. At least RT81 has a half decent desi- actually, no it doesn't, it's a terrible design too. With 200kg at their disposal they should be able to make a better robot than that. There's no doubt in my mind that this (when you look at all post-Series 6 robots at their maximum working potential) is the worst post-Series 6 robot ever to compete on TV. That's saying something, although I'd love to hear what others think. Raz3r(talk) 15:44, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Even The Demolisher could defeat RT81. --Demon Of Tomorrow 17:00, September 18, 2016 (UTC) RT81 has no way of ambling its way across the arena in time to escape the impatient House Robots, so Demolition Demon 2 doesn’t have to do much here. VulcansHowl (talk) 17:38, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Two very slow robots, but Demolition Demon can at least shove decently enough, or so it looks like; never saw enough of it. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:30, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Demolition Demon 2 will win purely through mobility. Nweston8 (talk) 14:02, September 19, 2016 (UTC) The sad part is, it's arguable that RT81 should've gone THROUGH in its New Blood battle, Edge Hog had seemingly lost half their drive before RT81 lost it all. Let's be honest though, if the Judges intervened and knocked out Edge Hog, nobody would be happy there. ToastUltimatum 15:06, September 19, 2016 (UTC) One moves freely. That is all. Combatwombat555 (talk) 17:37, September 19, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Demolition Demon 2 (0-11)

PP3D vs Hyperactive

PP3D	Hyperactive
Votes for PP3D yyeeaaaahhhhh...naaahhhhhh. Jimlaad43(talk) 14:48, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Poor Hyperactive. It promises so much and yet achieves so little, with a design that would be deadly to it no matter which way up it is. CrashBash (talk) 15:23, September 18, 2016 (UTC) I think PP3D will be a dark horse in this tournament. I think if it didn't have so many issues with its wheels, then it would have gone further in the 2016 Series, certainly I think it could have beaten Storm2 were it not for bad luck. Going back to this battle, I'd say that PP3D will demolish the weaker spinner here, although not without taking a little bit of damage first. Raz3r(talk) 15:30, September 18, 2016 (UTC) I disagree with the idea of PP3D being a dark horse, as I feel it is actually one of the favourites outright. It shall destroy Hyperactive in its first battle on the road to (possibly) the Ragnabot 2 final. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:33, September 18, 2016 (UTC) PP3D did well in my tournament and I can see it ripping apart the competition here.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 15:35, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Wow, Red Devil Hyperactive can't catch a break in Ragnabot, can it? --Demon Of Tomorrow 17:00, September 18, 2016 (UTC) A very tough draw for Hyperactive, but I’m going for a near-upset and say that it might tear one of PP3D’s wheels off before opening the pit and getting destroyed while trying to push PP3D down. By 2016 series logic, PP3D wins despite losing one wheel! VulcansHowl (talk) 17:38, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Lower disc will be able to shred away at the armour, and avoid the Hyperactive disc and thus avoided being dewheeled. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:31, September 18, 2016 (UTC) PP3D will make Hyperactive a bit less active, to say the least. Nweston8 (talk) 14:02, September 19, 2016 (UTC) How could this happen again? Hyperactive is a contender for my favourite US bot, but here it has drawn almost an ultimate counter. Maybe in Ragnabot 3...? If Hyperactive gets to PP3D's exposed wheels, it could take it out, but I think it's more likely that PP3D will tear Hyperactive apart, or there'll be a clash of weapons and there's only winner there. Combatwombat555 (talk) 17:37, September 19, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Hyperactive
Winner: PP3D (11-0)

Zeus (Italy) vs Bloody Murder Weapon

Zeus (Italy)	Bloody Murder Weapon
Votes for Zeus (Italy) I want somebody to take a bloody murder weapon to those inescapable brackets, but they'll stay longer as the weapon isn't likely to spin up, won't be anywhere near as powerful as Black Hole, and Zeus will eventually flip them someway they can't escape. Jimlaad43(talk) 14:48, September 18, 2016 (UTC) I'm sensing this battle would be rather uneventful. Like, Zeus snags BMW, drags it around, repeats, whilst Bloody Murder's Weapon doesn't do much. It's hard to judge a weapon when it never works, but I doubt BMW could cause much damage...wow, that's a terrible acronym...CrashBash (talk) 15:24, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Zeus' weapon to attempt to stop BMM's weapon and shove around to win on a JD.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 15:36, September 18, 2016 (UTC) I don't trust the power of Bloody Murder Weapon's... weapon. It certainly doesn't look as murderous as other destructive spinners of its time. This will have more going on than RT81 vs DD2 would, but it won't go down as a classic for sure. Zeus to win by flipping and pushing and wave 'ciao' to Bloody Murder Weapon. Raz3r(talk) Really, we didn't get to see how decent Zeus' weapon was, as it had to face Black Hole. However, it seemed to work as intended, so I suspect it could get underneath Bloody Murder Weapon and flip it over to win. Speaking of Bloody Murder Weapon, if only it was as great as RA2's version was? That would have been a contender for the Hypno-Disc of Dutch Robot Wars, along with a few other spinners. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:55, September 18, 2016 (UTC) That got me thinking back to its battle against El-Mower. Good times. CrashBash (talk) 17:17, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Don't forget that BOTH of these robots were made OP by Resetti! ToastUltimatum 15:06, September 19, 2016 (UTC) I guess a simple flip would do, seeing as we don't know how powerful BMW's (huehuehue) weapon was. I think it still wouldn't have been enough to defeat Zeus anyway. --Demon Of Tomorrow 17:00, September 18, 2016 (UTC) BMW wasn’t the 'Ultimate Destroying Machine' in practice, so Zeus to dispose of it with one flip. VulcansHowl (talk) 17:38, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Not convinced by BMW's weapon, am half convinced by Zeus', so it just about gets the nod here. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:32, September 18, 2016 (UTC) Exactly what Hogwild94 said. Nweston8 (talk) 14:02, September 19, 2016 (UTC) This one's impossible to call for sure; we don't know if a working BMW would've been like Son of Whyachi or Zorro or somewhere in between. Best I can say is, what's to say they won't blow their motor here? RA2; aka Resetti's Replicas. (My Talk) 03:30, September 22, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Bloody Murder Weapon He would smack the Greek God out the sky!--Botomatic1000 (talk) 14:52, September 18, 2016 (UTC) I'll place a counter-vote. Zeus' flipper worked, but its plate is so small that it won't actually get underneath Bloody Murder Weapon, it can only flip at the frame, which, heavens forbid, might even work! BMW at least has speed, and therefore aggression, the lead category. Zeus was no Apollo... it was probably better than Medusa Oblongotta though! ToastUltimatum 15:06, September 19, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Zeus (Italy) (9-2)

Scutter's Revenge vs Apollo

Scutter's Revenge	Apollo
Votes for Scutter's Revenge	Votes for Apollo I would say this is the biggest casualty yet. Scutter's Revenge has zero chance of victory here and will most likely be found in the trench. Jimlaad43(talk) 11:25, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Devastating match-up for the Series 3 Semi-Finalist – the 2016 champion will send it into orbit! VulcansHowl (talk) 12:13, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Scutter's Revenge fell in the qualifiers last year, which is a shame because in retrospect, it really shouldn't have, as it's a great machine...it was just up against a better opponent. Here, it's up against a robot it can't possibly beat in the form of the current UK champion. Lack of srimech will prove costly. CrashBash (talk) 13:06, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Scutter's Revenge will be sent to orbit!Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 13:27, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Bit of a shame this, you won't see many fights more one sided than this. Raz3r(talk) 14:30, September 20, 2016 (UTC) To me, Pinser and Hyperactive feel like bigger losses than Scutter's Revenge, said team will have many chances to come. ToastUltimatum 14:46, September 20, 2016 (UTC) I gotta say, this set of 8 fights are a little weak... but then again, at least the current champs will somewhat redeem it. If they were able to fling 'bots at half power, imagine what'll happen to Scutter's Revenge at full power... --Demon Of Tomorrow 14:52, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Scutter's Revenge could possibly push Apollo around, especially if the latter has drive issues again. However, one good flip will mean it will go out easily. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:30, September 20, 2016 (UTC) One flip should be enough for the current champs to win this one. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:26, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Whee... Got a feeling that a lot of Apollo's fights might end up like this. Combatwombat555 (talk) 17:48, September 20, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Apollo (0-10)

Shear Khan vs Panzer Mk 4

Shear Khan	Panzer Mk 4
Votes for Shear Khan	Votes for Panzer Mk 4 No chance here. Jimlaad43(talk) 11:25, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Panzer Mk 4 should be able to exploit Shear Khan’s ground clearance and tip it over at some point. Shame, because Shear Khan at least looked decent. VulcansHowl (talk) 12:13, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Shear Khan, beating Panzer Mk 4? Don't be ridickerous! I'm seeing a ram and eventually pit if not overturning. CrashBash (talk) 13:08, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Easy!Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 13:28, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Panzer Mk 4 is definitely the jungle VIP here. Raz3r(talk) 14:32, September 20, 2016 (UTC) It shearly khan't win this match. ToastUltimatum 14:46, September 20, 2016 (UTC) For something as menacing as a tiger, Shere Khan was as effective as an ant. Panzer will flip KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN over easily. --Demon Of Tomorrow 14:52, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Shear Khan to get absolutely outclassed. Nweston8 (talk) 15:30, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Shear Khan, just like in real-life, never seems to get any luck in these tournaments. Nonetheless, at least it loses to one of the best American robots that appeared on Robot Wars. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:34, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Tiger, tiger, burning bright, at the bottom of the pit. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:27, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Maybe not a tip over, but Panzer Mk 4's going to be utterly dominant here. Combatwombat555 (talk) 17:48, September 20, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Panzer Mk 4 (0-11)

Groundhog vs Spin Doctor (Series 2)

Groundhog	Spin Doctor (Series 2)
Votes for Groundhog Groundhog’s excessively high ground clearance will enable it to ride up Spin Doctor’s wedges, and Spin Doctor could easily damage its wheels spinning on the spot or push it around into the wall. However, I’m going for an upset and say that Spin Doctor will break down after dominating the battle, as it didn’t prove to be reliable against Technophobic. VulcansHowl (talk) 12:13, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Sadly I think I agree with the reliability card. Spin Doctor can only cause damage by spinning on the spot, and I can say from genuine roboteering experience that this is fairly ineffective as your opponents do just sit and watch. A play-to-win driver like Graham Bone will especially be willing to just wait until Spin Doctor has finished attacking, the doc will likely end up dead before cease. ToastUltimatum 14:46, September 20, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Spin Doctor (Series 2) Ooh, this is interesting. Unfortunately, the potato quality screengrab is the best we have of Groundhog ATM. I think Spin Doctor will try the spinning tactic, which might topple Groundhog over. Spin Doctor will be underneath Groundhog for most of the battle, and that will count as some points. Jimlaad43(talk) 11:25, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Or, alternatively, Groundhog could ride up Spin Doctor's wedge and simply roll over. Honestly, I'd rather go for the robot I know is the more offensive before trying to play the reliability card. CrashBash (talk) 13:10, September 20, 2016 (UTC) If Spin Doctor spins it can knock Groundhog around.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 13:29, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Agreed with CrashBash. Raz3r(talk) 14:34, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Groundhog is just too ridiculous to do anything. The grinder won't even do anything while Spin Doctor can at least damage the mecanum-esque wheels of Groundhog to the point of getting them jammed. --Demon Of Tomorrow 14:52, September 20, 2016 (UTC) After much deliberation, I'm going for Spin Doctor. Although it's a flawed robot, I just can't see Groundhog being able to trouble Spin Doctor; and although the reliability card is a genuine concern, will Groundhog be willing to wait around for who knows how long without attacking once just to play a game of chance to wait for Spin Doctor to breakdown? I don't think so. I can see the idea behind Groundhog winning this, but I'm going for Spin Doctor because of its attacking potential coupled with Groundhog probably struggling to get many points bar waiting for Spin Doctor to breakdown. Nweston8 (talk) 15:30, September 20, 2016 (UTC) To answer your likely rhetorical question, yes I do think Groundhog will be willing to wait around, this is Graham "I don't think we'd have been able to get another opportunity on Barbaric Response so we left them" Bone we're talking about. ToastUltimatum 15:35, September 20, 2016 (UTC) I love Spin Doctor and it could easily topple over the Groundhog.--Botomatic1000 (talk) 16:03, September 20, 2016 (UTC) I don't think Spin Doctor even needs to spin, as Groundhog is so high, the slopes could topple its opponent over anyway. Interesting design for Groundhog by the way; visually entertaining at the very least in my opinion. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 16:17, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Even if Spin Doctor doesn't work properly, its multiple wedges will give it a distinct advantage over THAT ground clearance. If it does, HA, they're laughing! Hogwild94 (talk) 17:29, September 20, 2016 (UTC) There's nothing that Groundhog can do offensively here, Spin Doctor can push it around easily. Combatwombat555 (talk) 17:48, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Do we really get to give Groundhog the Series 7 Firestorm Graham Bone? I don't know if driver experience should be considered when it was the freshman robot. Either way, Groundhog has no offensive output against a robot capable of smashing Matilda's face. GutripperSpeak 00:58, September 21, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Spin Doctor (Series 2) (2-11)

IDO vs Evil Weevil 2

IDO	Evil Weevil 2
Votes for IDO	Votes for Evil Weevil 2 Bear in mind that Evil Weevil 2 was chosen on the proviso it has Series 3 reliability. That said, if IDO spins around, those spikes look quite painful, and the armour of Evil Weevil never looked fantastic, so they could cause some good damage. But after the hit, IDO will stop, so Evil Weevil could grab and pit them. Jimlaad43(talk) 11:25, September 20, 2016 (UTC) IDO looks as if it has a high ground clearance which Evil Weevil will happily exploit, and Evil Weevil will either pit it or win the judges’ decision. VulcansHowl (talk) 12:13, September 20, 2016 (UTC) I can't imagine this going very well for IDO. No idea how far up Evil Weevil's forklifts actually go, so I can't assume a hooking, but the hammer looks like it could cause some damage. CrashBash (talk) 13:13, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Hoks may not do much but the hammer certainly can do some damage, maybe.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 13:30, September 20, 2016 (UTC) While it clearly isn't on the same level as Thor or Terrorhurtz for obvious reasons, Evil Weevil's weaponry can still pack a punch and knoct out IDO. Raz3r(talk) IDO did lose its battle by being hooked, let it be reminded. I trust Evil Weevil to do something similar to Hammerhead's KO. ToastUltimatum 14:46, September 20, 2016 (UTC) I don't know anything about IDO, but it doesn't look as effective as Evil Weevil, who I think will manage a pitting. --Demon Of Tomorrow 14:52, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Evil Weevil is controlled enough to be able to win this one. Nweston8 (talk) 15:30, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Question: how may all-female teams were there in Robot Wars? I know this robot had three women, as well as Widow's Revenge, so it would be interesting to know. Anyhow, IDO can be annoying to Evil Weevil 2 at first, possibly causing some slight damage. However, as proven against Hammerhead 2, it had an issue where the arms could get stuck in another robot. If it occurs against Evil Weevil 2 and its forklifts, it is game over. I suspect a pitting. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:43, September 20, 2016 (UTC) IDO believe Evil Weevil has this one in the bag! (Sorry!) Hogwild94 (talk) 17:30, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Evil Weevil can probably do something similar to Panic Attack here, maybe with a bit of a hammering besides. Combatwombat555 (talk) 17:48, September 20, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Evil Weevil 2 (0-11)

Immortalis vs S.M.I.D.S.Y.

Immortalis	S.M.I.D.S.Y.
Votes for Immortalis	Votes for S.M.I.D.S.Y. Next. Jimlaad43(talk) 11:25, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Immortalis will prove a pushover against S.M.I.D.S.Y. VulcansHowl (talk) 12:13, September 20, 2016 (UTC) No contest here, so time for another of my opinion pieces. To this day, I still do not know why everyone seems to have an intense dislike of Team Death? What did this team do wrong? Yes, most of the robots they built were not competitve, but not all robots have to be a Razer or a Chaos 2. When it comes to Piece De Resistance and Death Warmed Up, I am surprised that many consider them to be the worst robots on the show. I disagree because to me they were visually entertaining robots, like The Witch or Granny's Revenge. Not robots that want to win the title. Immortalis meanwhile, isn't a bad robot at all, it could beat some Series 5 robots easily. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 12:19, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Immortalis was arguably the best robot Team Death made, and could probably have achieved something if it hadn't been up against a seeded machine. Against many a lesser robot, and there were a fair few in Series 5, it could have won. S.M.I.D.S.Y. is not a lesser robot, though. CrashBash (talk) 13:15, September 20, 2016 (UTC) ...Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 13:32, September 20, 2016 (UTC) I've come to realize I've underrated S.M.I.D.S.Y. in the past. I won't be here. Raz3r(talk) 14:38, September 20, 2016 (UTC) One down, four to go (including Chimera) ToastUltimatum 14:46, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Immortalis was the best machine of Team Death, but that's not saying too much, honestly. SMIDSY can pit Immortalis easily. --Demon Of Tomorrow 14:52, September 20, 2016 (UTC) A standard S.M.I.D.S.Y. victory. Nweston8 (talk) 15:30, September 20, 2016 (UTC) There goes Team Death's best chance of any progress in this tournament. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:31, September 20, 2016 (UTC) I beg to differ, I think Metalis is probably the best of the Team Death machines, but regardless, Immortalis is going out here. Combatwombat555 (talk) 17:48, September 20, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: S.M.I.D.S.Y. (0-11)

Bugs vs Scarab (Dutch)

Bugs	Scarab (Dutch)
Votes for Bugs Going for a ridiculous vote here and say that Bugs will use its far greater speed to simply get behind the walker and henceforth become the most aggressive overall. Bugs to win on a judges' decision. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 12:15, September 20, 2016 (UTC) I know this is a long shot, but what can Scarab actually do here? It's barely functional to begin with, for one thing. Bugs may not have been the fastest, but it at least had decent mobility. CrashBash (talk) 13:16, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Also, sorry Toast, but I'm not changing my vote for Scarab just because you got upset. Sorry, but it was bad enough when certain other users did it before, and I'm always been criticized for "bashing" other peoples votes, so, yeah...this vote is staying. CrashBash (talk) 07:54, September 21, 2016 (UTC) Never seen the Dutch Wars (I know Toast sent me a link to watch and I really should when I have the time) so I'm taking that Scarab never really got going whereas Bugs can simply run circles around it.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 13:36, September 20, 2016 (UTC) I suggest that if you know nothing about a robot, don't make assumptions, actually read its wiki article, watch its fights, or don't vote on the battle. ToastUltimatum 15:40, September 20, 2016 (UTC) I see this being even more dull than M.R. Speed Squared vs Foxic. If it were based on the old format of style, control, damage and aggression I'd go for Scarab, but I think Bugs will be a bit more aggressive, despite its own lack of speed, while neither will cause anything more than puny damage. Imagine if Scarab vs RT81 happened here! We'd get another House Robot argument then I think.Raz3r(talk) 14:45, September 20, 2016 (UTC) "Oh, ten seconds to go, come on, you can still make contact. Something. Anything. Two seconds. One second! YES! We have ONE NUDGE! Oh, phew, the judges will be analysing that single nudge very carefully methinks" - Jonathan Pearce CrashBash (talk) 15:20, September 20, 2016 (UTC) What in the hell has happened in the world to see a bloody bug defeat a massive walker... --Demon Of Tomorrow 14:52, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Sorry, but Scarab was pretty weak IIRC, it got through the first round because its opponent self-destructed. Bugs can at least move and try to fight in a Mighty Mouse esque way, which will give it a surprise victory. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:32, September 20, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Scarab (Dutch) Scarabs eat Bugs don't they? Jimlaad43(talk) 11:25, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Are we actually being serious here? I didn't put a serious reason down because it's just so obvious. Bugs will likely damage itself running into Scarab, who only need to move their weapon onto Bugs to destroy it. If Bugs wins, this'll be even worse than Raganabot 1 where S3 lost to Rammstein... Jimlaad43(talk) 22:10, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Well, technically, yes, because even with Bugs' not-great mobility, it could still move semi-fluently. Scarab, when it did move and wasn't having fits and bursts of movements (as stated by the wikia page itself), kept turning to the right, like, all the time. Also, can I please ask, how was Rammstein beating S3 last time so terrible? Rammstein is a rambot, which S3 is always going to have a problem with due to its awkward shape - a lot of the people who voted against Rammstein kept harping on the fact its batteries only lasted three minutes but considering we don't assume Evil Weevil's battery only lasts 40 seconds, that's kind of a contradiction. CrashBash (talk) 05:31, September 21, 2016 (UTC) But S3 isn't as much of a pushover as people were saying it is, and Rammstein would only get shredded in the battle. There is not chance of it getting S3 down the pit. Jimlaad43(talk) 06:52, September 21, 2016 (UTC) Nobody is saying S3 is a pushover, if anything, doesn't saying Rammstein would "only get shredded" count more as saying Rammstein is a pushover? It's certainly not as much of a pushover as people were saying it is. But, eh, what's done is done. CrashBash (talk) 07:09, September 21, Consider me very frustrated that an edit conflict wiped out my vote here, which I failed to realise. This is a shambles. May I be the first to point out that Scarab actually won a battle? Can I say that it moved perfectly well, with alright speed? Perhaps because it is not a walker, but a shufflebot? Notice that it took the eventual champion to stop it? You all have a false perception of Scarab which is MORE than capable of handling a punching bag featherweight, either by pushing it or full-on squashing it. And now it's too late for me to change your minds because you all believe that a featherweight WHICH MOVES AT FOUR MILES PER HOUR should beat a fully functional shufflebot on the basis of mobility. ToastUltimatum 15:40, September 20, 2016 (UTC) OK, don't take this the wrong way, but I'm find it hard to tell if you're being sarcastic or not. Scarab was barely mobile in either of its fights, only won its battle because its opponent was barely mobile either, and was merely a fodderbot for PulverizeR. In fact, watching the fights again, it's clear Scarab has drive problems on top of mobility problems, as it spends both battles pulling to the right, all the time. And all the while, Bugs clearly has the better mobility. And don't get me started on the fact it took the eventual champion to stop it - need I remind you, it took the eventual champion to stop Sweeney Todd, Medusa 2000, Widow's Revenge and U.R.O.. I'm pretty sure joke votes like these are frowned upon, and if this isn't a joke vote, then I'm afraid you're seriously misinformed. We know Scarab is a shufflebot, and it's the worst shufflebot to ever exist - it's not Drillzilla or Ansgar. There. I've reconsidered my vote. CrashBash (talk) 15:57, September 20, 2016 (UTC) And I thought my pro-Team Death rant would be the only cause of an argument to break out. Well, I re-watched its two fights, and I am sticking with my result. For sure, you are correct that it won a battle, but in my opinion, it wasn't clean. I believe that the Vortex Inducer win is in the same category as the Hypno-Disc-Nasty Warrior battle in that the winner was victorious simply because they were lucky the other suddenly had a breakdown unrelated to the winner's attacks. As for Scarab's movement, I am pretty sure that only its turning circle was quick; getting pushed by the house robots in the Vortex Inducer battle does not in my belief, qualify as good movement. Even being a shufflebot does not automatically mean it will be the same speed as Drillzilla, for example. As for the eventual champions beating it, it took one blow and I am pretty sure that was not at full power, and besides, most spinners could probably take out Scarab in a few blows anyway. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 16:07, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Of course it's not a bloody joke vote, you're the one voting for a 7kg, weaponless, 18-year old, trudgingly slow GCSE project to beat a functional heavyweight robot. ToastUltimatum 16:17, September 20, 2016 (UTC) No, I'm voting for it to beat a heavyweight robot. Not a functional heavyweight robot. Because Scarab is not functional. At all. Also that comment does nothing to counter any of the arguments myself or SpaceManiac made. CrashBash (talk) 16:20, September 20, 2016 (UTC) I swear the Wiki has gone drunk or something Bugs had a terrible drive (not saying Scarabs is any good either) and poor control plus its a stupid amount lighter.--Botomatic1000 (talk) 16:01, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Yes, it had a terrible drive in one round where the team made the mistake of attaching a broken caster. I don't think that should qualify. We don't count Evil Weevil's battery mishap, after all. CrashBash (talk) 16:47, September 20, 2016 (UTC) I can see why people are backing Bugs, but having watched Bugs' Series 1 heat it was barely controlled itself, pin balling (very slowly) around in the Gauntlet and completing only 1 lap in the Trial when all others but Krayzee Tokyo managed at least 2. Scarab... Well, it's hardly fantastic, but it was mostly mobile, certainly mobile enough to be considered mobile under 2016 rules, and I think in a collision between the two it could reasonably easily knock Bugs over. Combatwombat555 (talk) 17:48, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Bugs came second last in Gauntlet, second last in Trial, lost its only battle, is made of wood and vacuum cleaner, is featherweight, and has very little offensive output. Of the many ways this battle could go, the only way Bugs can win this is via Scarab breaking down (which I always give benefit of the doubt in hypothetical battles) or by judges assuming Bugs rams Scarab non-stop. It would be a non-starter of a battle, but I see dozens of outcomes that end with Scarab winning. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 23:15, September 20, 2016 (UTC) So, as I usually do, I was thinking about my votes on the fights today on my bus journey home, and of all of the fights I reviewed over again, I started to realise that I simplified this particular fight too much. Bugs being a featherweight doesn't mean it's fast or nimble enough to execute this type of gameplan, not to mention that Scarab turns quickly on the spot - something important that I overlooked earlier. My reflection and the reasoning of the other points on Scarab's side are enough to convince me. Nweston8 (talk) 23:55, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Such a close vote, I can't not weigh in. It would take very special circs for a featherweight to beat a heavyweight. Even Cunning Plan could only defeat a middleweight by suicide. I just don't buy into this situation where a featherweight wins by ramming. What if it gets beached underneath? GutripperSpeak 00:54, September 21, 2016 (UTC) I am very sorry if my original vote angered you, ToastUltimatum, but I made it simply because I was not impressed with Scarab’s stop-start mobility issues and the fact that the House Robots had to push it towards Vortex Inducer to get its first-round battle going. From my perspective, Bugs looked as if it had decent speed and more consistent mobility in the Gauntlet and Trial, even if its driving was poor and the robot was compromised by the broken castor it had when it fought in the arena. However, after mulling over my vote for some time, I have reconsidered my decision, because it has suddenly dawned on me that Bugs' speed controllers suffered from many overheating problems during Series 1, and that there is a decent chance that Bugs might cook itself while bumping and nudging Scarab. VulcansHowl (talk) 07:37, September 21, 2016 (UTC) Don't feel bullied into changing your vote. You are entitled to your opinion and shouldn't need to apologise for it. The winner of this battle isn't going to win the tournament or anything. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 12:37, September 21, 2016 (UTC) Thank you, Toon Ganondorf, but I would like to let you know that I did not feel bullied into changing my vote at all. I understand ToastUltimatum's frustration at the prospect of a Series 1 featherweight possibly beating Scarab - I did not expect so many other users to vote for Bugs as well, to be honest. Personally, I should have taken Bugs' speed controller issues into account before deciding my original vote. VulcansHowl (talk) 12:51, September 21, 2016 (UTC) Eyeballing the two robots, I beleive Bugs has somehow managed to have a higher ground clearance than Skarab. If they had a proper wedge could see them maybe winning the judges over by being an offensive doorstop, but without a proper wedge, the big one can just push it and either squash it or topple it. Skarab is not a good robot by any means, but we're talking about a 100kg object colliding with a 7kg object that was designed from scrap, not some space age high-tensile plastic. RA2; aka Resetti's Replicas. (My Talk) 03:19, September 22, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Scarab (Dutch) (6-9)

Steg 2 vs Challenger 2

Steg 2	Challenger 2
Votes for Steg 2 Challenger will likely be sent down Challenger Deep once Steg has finished with it. Jimlaad43(talk) 11:27, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Steg 2 will dispose of Challenger 2 with a couple of flips and eventually push it into the pit. VulcansHowl (talk) 12:13, September 20, 2016 (UTC) I find Steg 2 a little overrated, but it will win will a flip of doom. It is a shame, as I like Challenger 2. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 12:16, September 20, 2016 (UTC) This is pretty much your standard flipper vs no srimech battle. CrashBash (talk) 13:17, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Flip!Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 13:36, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Challenge? What challenge? Raz3r(talk) 14:46, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Well, this fight is easy to decide. --Demon Of Tomorrow 14:52, September 20, 2016 (UTC) This time it'll be modern Shunt burying its axe in. ToastUltimatum 14:55, September 20, 2016 (UTC) A simple victory for Steg 2. Nweston8 (talk) 15:30, September 20, 2016 (UTC) No discussion here. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:33, September 20, 2016 (UTC) A more worthy challenger next time, please. Combatwombat555 (talk) 17:48, September 20, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Challenger 2
Winner: Steg 2 (11-0)

Spin Doctor (Series 7) vs Evolution

Spin Doctor	Evolution
Votes for Spin Doctor (Series 7) Two of the weakest robots from Series 5-7 go head to head. Against all the odds, the Series 6-7 Spin Doctor might come out on top for being more aggressive, even if it doesn’t have enough power to chip into Evolution’s wooden body. VulcansHowl (talk) 12:13, September 20, 2016 (UTC) I don't agree with the Evolution hype train. If Spindoctor spins properly, it'll be a cakewalk. If it doesn't, it's still much faster than Evolution, and could scrape the MDF armour with its spikes. Would you all have Overdozer beat Spindoctor? Because this is the same, just with a spinning turret which would be outclassed by an actual spinner. ToastUltimatum 14:55, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Evolution beat the Series 5 Sabretooth, who couldn't use their 2500 rpm discs (in contrast to Spin Doctor's 400 rpm) to their advantage against a wooden robot. I never saw Spin Doctor cause any damage either, and it's slower than Evolution as well. Raz3r(talk) 15:04, September 20, 2016 (UTC) The armour isn't the issue here, it's the stability. Overdozer doesn't really have any way of putting Spin Doctor off-balance. Also, what you're talking about is reliability. Overdozer died after a single solitary piece got ripped out. Evolution got huge chunks bitten off and kept going. It's clear to me which of the two MDF machines is more reliable. CrashBash (talk) 15:23, September 20, 2016 (UTC) The hypothetical of Evolution's weapon getting enough speed to bump Spin Doctor over is too far fetched for me. A spinner against a wooden robot is all I need to know, even if that spinner is Spin Doctor. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 23:18, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Panic Attack managed with a H.A. ram, it's hardly that far fetched. CrashBash (talk) 05:35, September 21, 2016 (UTC) Spin Doctor might suck, but it lost to Bulldog Breed, Chompalot and Panic Attack, all of whom are tournament winnnig or semi-finalist drivers. And Evolution might be able to ram, but that's not enough to forgive being made of wood. I see a repeat of T2 v the Darke Destroyer. GutripperSpeak 00:51, September 21, 2016 (UTC) This is a lot more decisive than it looks, and here's the damning factor: height. Evolution, whose turret is mounted more or less at the top, stands at a towering 91 cm. Spin Doctor, counting the directional arrow, is a mere 74; 55 if you count just the actual body. Ergo, there is no way that the turret could make contact and knock Spin Doctor over as has been theorized. Spin Doctor will at least take out some wood chips to win damage, and spend the rest of the match bumping to win. RA2; aka Resetti's Replicas. (My Talk) 03:44, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Damn. I hope people consider this point before voting closes. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 03:47, September 22, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Evolution Surely one hit by the turret will knock Spin Doctor over. It's not like their weapon or srimech are gonna work anyway... Jimlaad43(talk) 11:25, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Y'see, when I look at these two, whilst they're both pretty weak, only one of them has this little thing called "stability". If their weapons clash, Spin Doctor is going to rock all over the place, whilst Evolution will at the very least be still on its wheels and probably fit to land another blow. It might even drag Spin Doctor over whilst doing so. CrashBash (talk) 13:19, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Yeah the "turret" can tip Spin Doctor over and win via immobilization!Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 13:37, September 20, 2016 (UTC) I have nothing to add to what has already been said. Raz3r(talk) 14:47, September 20, 2016 (UTC) At least Evolution is somewhat stable. That's all I can say, honestly. --Demon Of Tomorrow 14:52, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Evolution has a more effective weapon in this particular battle and also has at least a bit of pace and pushing power if it comes to that. Nweston8 (talk) 15:30, September 20, 2016 (UTC) If only Barber-Ous could face either of these two robots. Yes, I am really concerned now that Barber-Ous is going to face a spinner that it cannot beat. Anyhow, I suspect that the top of Spin Doctor could get entangled with the turret of Evolution. This should knock it over. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:50, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Seeing as a couple of people are unhappy with my vote, I am going to change it slightly. In my opinion, Evolution will still win this, as it had decent pushing power against Sabre Tooth. Spin Doctor meanwhile, not only has the worst shape possible for pushing, but I doubt that spinner can really do anything. If you watch its Series 7 melee, once it spun up and hit Panic Attack, it never worked again. It isn't even because Panic Attack was preventing it from spinning again, as Spin Doctor had several attempts to get it working again, even after being eliminated. And this is my theory; Spin Doctor will cause the same amount of damage as Sabre Tooth did, but Evolution will push its opponent all over the arena. This will either cause an immobilization, or Evolution winning on a judges' decision due to its aggression outweighing its opponents damage score. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 08:16, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Even if Evolution has a rubbish weapon and is armoured in wood, it does at least have a good body for pushing, and thus will have the advantage over the modest spinner of Spin Doctor. How many more of these qualifiers are there left BTW? Hogwild94 (talk) 17:34, September 20, 2016 (UTC) Just checked, and there were 154 battles overall. Since we already have done forty, we have 114 left. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 17:38, September 20, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Evolution (5-8)

Beast of Bodmin vs Mega Morg

Beast of Bodmin	Mega Morg
Votes for Beast of Bodmin I've never been particularly impressed with Mega Morg, and Beast of Bodmin has shown the ability to overturn robots without srimechs. Beast of Bodmin was slower, but all it needs to do is overturn Mega Morg and the slow speed of the overturn will leave Mega Morg stranded. A robot as big and wide as Beast of Bodmin needs a more explosive flipper than what Mega Morg has packing. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 08:26, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Ooh, this is a tough one to call. While I’m not convinced that Mega Morg would be able to flip Beast of Bodmin completely over, it would still be able to use its lifter to get underneath Beast of Bodmin and push and drag it around wherever it pleases. However, after watching its Series 3 performances again, I believe that Beast of Bodmin will eventually be able to drive under Mega Morg, and its flipping arm is slow and forceless enough to topple it over. Mega Morg wouldn’t have the momentum to turn back onto its wheels, so Beast of Bodmin pulls it off. VulcansHowl (talk) 10:22, September 22, 2016 (UTC) I agree with VulcansHowl and TG. GutripperSpeak 10:29, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Sorry, but Beast of Bodmin gets my vote here. The Roadblock team are old hands when it comes to this game, and their driving and control was considerably better than the Morgue boys. The weapons are weak, but the better driving would make up for it IMO. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:28, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Agree with TG and VulcansHowl, Mega Morg cannot flip such a wide robot as BoB but BoB can get a side-on flick and topple it, and Mega Morg's unlikely to roll back over. Combatwombat555 (talk) 22:26, September 22, 2016 (UTC) None of us on either side have said Mega Morg can flip BoB, we're merely saying that in the eventual push-off, Mega Morg would be more likely to pit BoB than the other way around. Jimlaad43(talk) 22:31, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Well actually Diotoir did, and RAZ3R left the door open for the implication. GutripperSpeak 22:40, September 22, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Mega Morg By Series 7, Mega Morg had become competent, definitely good enough to defeat a good Series 3 robot in the form of BoB. The flippers won't flip each other over, but I think Mega Morg will just be the more powerful and win via a pitting. Jimlaad43(talk) 07:59, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Beast of Bodmin only really succeeded due to it having a really good team to control it. Mega Morg should be able to locate the sides of its opponent and probably topple it over. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 08:17, September 22, 2016 (UTC) This isn't going to be decided by one flipping over the other, that's for certain. The robots are too large and their flippers are too small for that. With that being said, logic dictates, at least in my mind, that the larger flipper of Mega Morg, combined with the larger body of Beast of Bodmin, should prove to be a major problem for the former champion. Keep in mind here, both Onslaught and Invertabrat were winning their battles against Beast of Bodmin, and here it's fighting a much heavier robot. CrashBash (talk) 09:17, September 22, 2016 (UTC) I was originally going to vote for Beast of Bodmin but the damage factor from the cutting disc of Mega Morg, plus the probably better steering and somewhat weaker armour of Beast of Bodmin would probably get the better of its opponent. Beast wasn't a bad robot for its time, and had this been another version of the morgue robots, I probably would've given it the nod, but this version of Mega Morg did seem to improve on its predecessors, even if its trademark design actually let it down in the end. RelicRaider (talk) 11:15, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Mega Morg can get in from the side, push and then flip.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 14:29, September 22, 2016 (UTC) If this was the Extreme 1 Mega Morg, I'd vote for Beast of Bodmin. However, I think this version has a better flipper and more dangerous saw than Beast of Bodmin's. Raz3r(talk) 15:53, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Beast of Bodmin's wedge could only be considered low for its time, certainly not now. I agree that a flip is unlikely from either party, but Mega Morg has the advantage in speed, pushing power, weight, and something that has gone forgotten – prior to my edit conflict - a rear disc that would make a mess of BoB. ToastUltimatum 16:22, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Mega Morgue might be meh, but Beast of Bodmin has dated considerably now, with the crappy little toothpick of a flipper and the saw that never did anything. Morgue should manage a topple, and if it fails that, it'll get the judges' nod. --Demon Of Tomorrow 21:17, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Mega Morg has a flipper that scrapes along the ground, it should be able to get under BOB from any side. Series 1-3, you wanted a bit of ground clearance because of the gauntlet, but now it's going to be their undoing. RA2; aka Resetti's Replicas. (My Talk) 02:46, September 23, 2016 (UTC) This Mega Morg was extremely low, and I don't see any way that Beast of Bodmin will be able to break its flicker into play. Morg's flipper also has a long reach, which will help protect it even more. Mega Morg should be able to get consistent lifts in and get significant points from its disc as well. Nweston8 (talk) 13:43, September 23, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Mega Morg (5-10)

The Scrapper vs Twister 2 (Dutch)

The Scrapper	Twister 2 (Dutch)
Votes for The Scrapper	Votes for Twister 2 (Dutch) Twister has a larger area to aim for. Jimlaad43(talk) 07:59, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Well at least one Twister qualifies for Ragnabot. The Scrapper seemed to have unreliable drives, which is not something a robot needs against a dangerous spinner. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 08:19, September 22, 2016 (UTC) The Scrapper made it to Round 2 last time. I can't see it managing that this time, at all. If Revolution 3 could mess up its drives, Twister certainly can. CrashBash (talk) 09:19, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Another tough call, with both Twister 2’s wheels and The Scrapper’s polycarbonate sides being vulnerable to each other’s spinners. However, I understand that The Scrapper lost drive to one side early on in its only battle, so Twister 2 to get the upper hand. VulcansHowl (talk) 10:22, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Bigger and better weapon. GutripperSpeak 10:29, September 22, 2016 (UTC) More powerful.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 14:30, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Twister's weapon is stronger and the robot itself seems to be better at taking hits from what I've seen of both machines. Raz3r(talk) 16:01, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Yup, the logic was already covered, I have more trust in Twister than Revolution 3. Twister's spinner is lower down than The Scrapper's anyway. ToastUltimatum 16:22, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Not really convinced by either robot here, but Twister's spinner seems more likely to inflict crucial damage. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:29, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Scrapper was made of scrap parts, right? The jokes write themselves here. --Demon Of Tomorrow 21:17, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Twister seemed pretty destructive, The Scrapper seemed pretty unreliable. Combatwombat555 (talk) 22:29, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Twister is the more destructive and compact, whereas The Scrapper has broad sides and seems less durable. Nweston8 (talk) 13:43, September 23, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Twister 2 (0-12)

Penetrator vs The Gap

Penetrator	The Gap
Votes for Penetrator	Votes for The Gap The Gap might be able to get under Penetrator and push it around the arena for a while. Jimlaad43(talk) 07:59, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Mind The Gap, Penetratoooooh, too late, it got flipped over. Out in the qualifiers again. CrashBash (talk) 09:20, September 22, 2016 (UTC) It’s difficult for me to judge Penetrator, since it never fought in the arena, and I am not sure how effective its cutting disc was as a result. So, The Gap should easily dispose of Penetrator by flipping it onto its back in the opening seconds and leaving it there. VulcansHowl (talk) 10:22, September 22, 2016 (UTC) I vaguely remember The Gap being half decent, and Penetrator falls into that category of Series 2 robots that aren't impressive enough to vote for. GutripperSpeak 10:29, September 22, 2016 (UTC) The Gap appears to have a flipper, The Penetrator will be flipped.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 14:33, September 22, 2016 (UTC) The Gap was able to flip the heavier Trackzilla over, so I suspect that it will be able to catch and toss over the srimech-less Penetrator. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 14:49, September 22, 2016 (UTC) And after I just spent this morning educating myself about Penetrator. If ever there was a reminder to return to the talk page topic I started on Talk:Penetrator, this is one. ToastUltimatum 16:22, September 22, 2016 (UTC) That flipper should be capable of turning Penetrator, which was built before srimechs became an unofficial necessity, over. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:30, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Penetrator, Punitive, Pitiful, Pathetic. The Gap can topple them over without much effort. --Demon Of Tomorrow 21:17, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Trial drop-out with no srimech vs competent flipper. Combatwombat555 (talk) 22:30, September 22, 2016 (UTC) The Gap should comfortably win this, and even if it can't flip it over, it has plenty enough pace as well. Nweston8 (talk) 13:43, September 23, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: The Gap (0-11)

Killer Carrot 2 vs Nasty Warrior

Killer Carrot 2	Nasty Warrior
Votes for Killer Carrot 2 Nasty Warrior is not going to luck into a victory here due to a Killer Carrot breakdown. Look at the punishment Killer Carrot has still been mobile after from Disc-O-Inferno and X-Terminator. Jimlaad43(talk) 07:59, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Nah, I believe that Killer Carrot 2 broke down just a couple of seconds before X-Terminator sent it OotA. Nasty Warrior, however, doesn't have a powerful spinner, so I feel Killer Carrot 2 could probably flip its opponent a couple of times. Since Nasty Warrior is invertible, it will go to the judges, where it will be an easy decision for Killer Carrot 2. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 08:21, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Nasty Warrior doesn't win battles, its opponents lose them, and Killer Carrot 2 seems sturdy enough for me. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 08:27, September 22, 2016 (UTC) I can't see any way for Killer Carrot to lose aside from some random nonsense happening like a wheel falling off. Sorry, Nasty Warrior. CrashBash (talk) 09:24, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Killer Carrot 2 will get the measure of Nasty Warrior’s ground clearance, pushing, flipping and pitting it with ease. VulcansHowl (talk) 10:22, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Carrots kills. GutripperSpeak 10:29, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Flipped.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 14:33, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Only one winner here. Mind you, that's what we all thought with Hypno-Disc... It won't happen again here though. Raz3r(talk) 16:03, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Perhaps if Nasty Warrior was Icelandic, I'd be able to make some excuse involving Rudolph eating carrots, but the Germans don't have an answer. ToastUltimatum 16:22, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Nah, if it was Icelandic you'd just hear HOO.........................HOO.............HOO....HOO..HOO HOO HOO HOO HOO Jimlaad43(talk) 17:33, September 22, 2016 (UTC) FINLAND!!.....oh, wait, that's hardly any better. CrashBash (talk) 17:39, September 22, 2016 (UTC) TBH, Nasty Warrior was unlucky to lose the German melee; it looked better than Ansgar. But Killer Carrot should be able to win this one thanks to its flipper and it not having a spinner that can break bits off into its own wheels. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:31, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Nasty Warrior can't do anything to Killer Carrot here. The flipper is going to be more effective and I don't think Nasty Warrior can avoid a pitting from Killer Carrot 2. --Demon Of Tomorrow 21:17, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Nasty Warrior's invertible so should at least keep going, but there's very little it can do to Killer Carrot 2 here. Combatwombat555 (talk) 22:31, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Killer Carrot 2 is a stayer and should be able to turn Nasty Warrior over consistently. Nweston8 (talk) 13:43, September 23, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Nasty Warrior
Winner: Killer Carrot (13-0)

Aggrobot vs Black Widow (UK)

Aggrobot	Black Widow (UK)
Votes for Aggrobot Might the claw even cut some legs off? Jimlaad43(talk) 07:59, September 22, 2016 (UTC) So, by Toast's earlier logic, Black Widow should win because apparantly Aggrobot ramming into Black Widow's legs and showing constantly better mobility doesn't constitute as anything, right? Eh, sticking with my previous logic. CrashBash (talk) 09:26, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Well there's the 90kg weight difference between Bugs and Aggrobot to take into account. Not a perfect comparison. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 09:35, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Well, there's also the 100kg weight difference between Scarab and Black Widow to take into account, so it IS a perfect comparison (in fact, it's a greater weight difference). More to the point, it's not serious. CrashBash (talk) 09:38, September 22, 2016 (UTC) I weigh over 100kg, and I feel confident that if I sat on something 7kg made of plastic, it would break. If two of me sat on me, I feel like I'd survive. The difference between 100kg and 200kg isn't as significant as the difference between 7kg and 100kg. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 10:24, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Ignoring the fact that it's a difference of 100kg against a difference of 93kg, which is greater, I did point out I wasn't being serious. CrashBash (talk) 10:27, September 22, 2016 (UTC) If you weren't being serious, why bring it up as a perfect comparison? Not having a go, genuinely confused. GutripperSpeak 10:31, September 22, 2016 (UTC) I was originally trying to make a satirical jab, that's why. The only reason I called it a "perfect comparison" is because TG said it wasn't, despite the fact the weight difference between Aggrobot and Black Widow is greater than that of Bugs and Scarab. CrashBash (talk) 10:36, September 22, 2016 (UTC) What you aren't getting Crash is that Black Widow is twice as heavy as Aggrobot, whereas Scarab is over 14 times heavier than Bugs. Think of it as a Van trying to push a lorry against a Motorbike trying to push a lorry. If the lorry moves, the bike is going to come off worse than the van. I'm not disputing the fact that Scarab is useless, I'm merely trying to say why it won votes and why the logic doesn't apply to this battle. In this one, Aggrobot does have an offensive capability that Bugs doesn't have, it is made of tough stuff that won't bend on impact with the opponent, and it has reliable drive as well. Jimlaad43(talk) 11:03, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Why is it whenever anyone else makes a satirical jab, nobody questions it, yet when I make one, everyone leaps on me for it? Can't I just do one thing everyone else does? CrashBash (talk) 13:13, September 22, 2016 (UTC) You weigh over 100kg? RelicRaider (talk) 11:12, September 22, 2016 (UTC) I'm a big chap. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 11:15, September 22, 2016 (UTC) All muscle, huh ;) RelicRaider (talk) 11:19, September 22, 2016 (UTC) I might as well cast a vote if I'm going to comment in this. I'm not confident that Black Widow's axe even gets down low enough to hit Aggrobot, whose armour is pretty tough. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 10:24, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Aggrobot will use its wedge to lift and push Black Widow around until Black Widow breaks down. VulcansHowl (talk) 10:22, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Agreed. GutripperSpeak 10:29, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Poor CrashBash, makes a satirical joke and everyone leaps at him, don't worry I don't mind. Now on to the battle...well what can Black Widow do?Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 14:35, September 22, 2016 (UTC) I am unsure what Black Widow could do to Aggrobot, considering its weapon is quite high up, and Aggrobot is quite low. The opposite is probably true for Aggrobot, who could probably lift its opponent occasionally and maybe use its crusher to damage the legs. Despite this, I have never really seen the effectiveness of Aggrobot's weapon, so maybe Black Widow could survive to a judges' decision loss. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 14:52, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Aggrobot can just ram and ram some more at Black Widow. Raz3r(talk) 16:05, September 22, 2016 (UTC) My vote in an Arena forum sets off a big CrashBash debacle, what is this, 2012? ToastUltimatum 16:22, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Can Black Widow's axe even hit Aggrobot? Hogwild94 (talk) 17:32, September 22, 2016 (UTC) TG and CrashBash are at each other's throats again. What is this, 2010? --Demon Of Tomorrow 21:17, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Wasn't trying to. CrashBash (talk) 21:21, September 22, 2016 (UTC) No one is at each other's throats. It's just a discussion. Compared to previous disputes (left in the past), this is like buttoning a shirt than being at each other's throats. GutripperSpeak 21:35, September 22, 2016 (UTC) I believe Aggrobot's crusher is capable of changing orientation? A horizontal crusher might cause some damage here. Combatwombat555 (talk) 22:34, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Well this will hardly be the most exciting battle. Aggrobot should win simply through ramming Black Widow, even if it struggles to damage Black Widow with the claw. Nweston8 (talk) 13:43, September 23, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Black Widow (UK)
Winner: Aggrobot (13-0)

Raging Reality vs Namazu

Raging Reality	Namazu
Votes for Raging Reality Unfortunately for Namazu, it is up against one of the better robots that never escaped a heat. Jimlaad43(talk) 07:59, September 22, 2016 (UTC) This is not a good day for walking robots. The only one who has gotten through is arguably the worst and least mobile in the field. Whether Raging Reality can actually flip Namazu over is one thing, but it'll certainly win. CrashBash (talk) 09:27, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Namazu won’t dig itself into the 2016 arena floor, but Raging Reality should still exploit its ground clearance and lift it, possibly even turning it over. VulcansHowl (talk) 10:22, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Formality. GutripperSpeak 10:29, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Flip the walkerbot!Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 14:37, September 22, 2016 (UTC) To be fair, Namazu is pretty damn tough, and was unlucky in its only battle. Since this is the 2016 Arena, fingers-crossed its legs do not get caught within the arena. Anyhow, although Namazu seems to have a decent crusher, and is quite fast for a walker, it is not Razer. It also has a high ground clearance, which Raging Reality can exploit. However, is it going to be a flip of doom to win? Actually no, as Namazu's top could possibly allow it to roll over. That will help it survive, but not to win the battle. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 14:59, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Strangely, while I'm not a big fan of Raging Knightmare, I did like Raging Reality. Don't ask me why, I'm strange with my preferences. To the battle then, and I think Raging Reality will take about 10 seconds to get under those legs and flip Namazu over. Better than some walkers, yes, but Namazu is no Anarchy. Raz3r(talk) 16:10, September 22, 2016 (UTC) It'll be a pleasure to watch Namazu finally move at least. ToastUltimatum 16:22, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Not convinced Raging Reality can flip NAMAZU, but even less convinced NAMAZU can get a grip. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:33, September 22, 2016 (UTC) I'm going to have to admit, I think NAMAZU is bloody awesome... but it can't do anything in the arena. It'll be tossed over by Raging Reality. --Demon Of Tomorrow 21:17, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Going to say Raging Reality will manage to get a flip in. Combatwombat555 (talk) 22:35, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Raging Reality shouldn't break too much sweat. Nweston8 (talk) 13:43, September 23, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Namazu
Winner: Raging Reality (12-0)

Behemoth vs Knightmare

Behemoth	Knightmare
Votes for Behemoth I may have screwed up, and both Knightmare and Spirit of Knightmare are in this tournament. It doesn't really matter, both will go out against the super-powerful Behemoth. Jimlaad43(talk) 07:59, September 22, 2016 (UTC) I wouldn't worry about it, Spirit of Knightmare has extra weight so people can judge whether that factor changes anything. Knightmare sucks, Behemoth wins. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 08:28, September 22, 2016 (UTC) You say "Knightmare sucks", TG, but I feel that's extremely unfair, considering it was pushing Spawn of Scutter around quite a bit in its first battle and was dominant overall over Plunderbird 4. If it genuinely sucked, it'd do neither of these things. But, yeah, Behemoth is a different kettle of fish. CrashBash (talk) 09:22, September 22, 2016 (UTC) A dream start for Behemoth, as it easily bulldozes Knightmare into submission with its pushing power and scoop. VulcansHowl (talk) 10:22, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Lol, Knightmare does suck. I wouldn't be impressed if it pushed someone like Storm 2 around if that's all it did.GutripperSpeak 10:29, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Hate to state the obvious, but Storm 2 didn't exist back then. CrashBash (talk) 10:36, September 22, 2016 (UTC) I get the feeling you're defensive enough about Knightmare to question every vote based on it being a not good robot but not defensive enough to vote for it. GutripperSpeak 10:59, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Nah, he's just pointing out that you've got Knightmare (Series 4) mixed up with Raging Knightmare (Series 7). Jimlaad43(talk) 11:04, September 22, 2016 (UTC) I don't have them mixed up, the picture would make such a mixup difficult. Besides, Raging Knghtmare doesn't suck. What I meant was that pushing a robot around doesn't stop you from having a five centimetre range of motion in your puny flipper and the various other reasons Knightmare is a bad robot. I wouldn't care if you were pushing around someone like Storm 2, pushing is just pushing, that doesn't stop you from sucking. GutripperSpeak 11:09, September 22, 2016 (UTC) If that's what you meant, why did you act so rude when I pointed out what looked like a mistake? You could have simply said "Oh, that's not what I meant. I'll fix that", but you didn't do that. CrashBash (talk) 13:41, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Dude, read what you wrote and what I said. You clearly wrote "I don't care if it pushed Storm 2 around if that's all it did." but it can't have done because Storm 2 didn't exist at the time of Series 4. Knightmare never fought Storm 2 and could never have done. How is that, correcting a mistake you made, anything close to "being defensive"? And don't say things like "haha" that's very immature. CrashBash (talk) 13:15, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Well for one, the laughter is intended to lighten the mood rather than indicate I'm having a go. For two, don't edit my comments, I don't care if you think it's immature. And for three, I thought it was obvious I was using Storm 2 as a random example. No version of Knightmare has fought Storm 2, why would I say it? Just as an example of a strong robot. I feel like this is the sort of argument you are usually on the other side of. I think Knightmare sucks and I stand by that. GutripperSpeak 21:07, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Well, no, neither the lightening the mood or the using Storm 2 as a random example was obvious to me. I genuinely thought you'd made a mistake, and thought you meant Spawn (of Scutter), who it did fight. I was merely trying to point out you'd made said mistake - and then I genuinely thought you were having a malicious go at me. But since this was just a massive misunderstanding on my part, lets forget it and move on. CrashBash (talk) 21:19, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Knightmare isn't bad at all, but it won't win against Behemoth.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 14:37, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Knightmare is average for Series 4 in my opinion. Yes, it got to the heat final, but didn't need to do anything in its melee, and I am pretty sure Plunderbird 4 wasn't 100% in the heat-semi. Regardless of my belief however, there is nothing Knightmare can do to stop the 2016 version of Behemoth, of whom could flip it over, rendering its flipper useless. Maybe an OotA can occur here? SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:08, September 22, 2016 (UTC) I couldn't care less on the argument on whether or not Knightmare is good or bad here, it's not going to even come close to beating Behemoth either way. Raz3r(talk) 16:14, September 22, 2016 (UTC) It’s true I was the one campaigning to bin Knightmare 1, but this works somewhat, it saves having a good robot lose to Behemoth in a qualifier. Not going to lie, at first I thought it was Raging Knightmare, to which I was thinking "Oh, here we go, a big name out already". Still would have voted for Behemoth though. CrashBash (talk) 16:24, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Behemoth wins this one, whichever Team Knightmare bot we're talking about. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:34, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Easy pitting for Behemoth. --Demon Of Tomorrow 21:17, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Many flips, and probably an eventual pitting. Combatwombat555 (talk) 22:36, September 22, 2016 (UTC) A relentless Behemoth display that will see Knightmare either breakdown or pitted. Nweston8 (talk) 13:43, September 23, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Knightmare
Winner: Behemoth (13-0)

Chopper vs Snake Bite (Extreme Warriors)

Chopper	Snake Bite (Extreme Warriors)
Votes for Chopper	Votes for Snake Bite (Extreme Warriors) Snake Bite will last the hits and push Chopper into something that will cause the blade to be damaged and them stuck. BTW, why are the brackets (Extreme Warriors) and not (US)? It seems a lot simpler. Jimlaad43(talk) 07:59, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Another robot who crashed out in the qualifiers falls there again. I'd be a bit more supportive over Chopper were it not for the fact it was practically suicidal and quite flimsy. CrashBash (talk) 09:28, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Snake Bite was solid in US Season 2, so I can expect it to get underneath Chopper and push it around the arena before pitting it. VulcansHowl (talk) 10:22, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Ether Snakebite will smash Chopper or Chopper will smash itself.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 14:39, September 22, 2016 (UTC) But I like Chopper! A shame, but I cannot vote it through simply because of that fact, since that goes against the entire arena forum's rules and history. Anyhow, Chopper didn't have a great weapon, good pushing power, nor good control. Snake Bite, which has a very low ground clearance, should probably slam its opponent around the arena, eventually toppling it. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:03, September 22, 2016 (UTC) I like Chopper too. I admire it for simply surviving the first round of its New Blood heat after all the damage it took from Matilda; it certainly seems to be able to take a beating and keep going. However, they will not cause any damage to Snake Bite at all, who will be able to push Chopper around. Unless there's a pitting, this will be a Judges' Decision that will be comfortable for Snake Bite. Raz3r(talk) 16:18, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Chopper’s a quiet favourite of mine, but I struggle to think of scenarios where I could vote for it. Maybe against Mad Dog, I guess. ToastUltimatum 17:53, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Chopper only really got through the first round because Mad Dog broke down, didn't it? At least it won't be as violent as against Storm 2. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:35, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Chopper is rather fragile, which will be a problem as Snake Bite can cause some damage that could end up KO'ing Chopper. --Demon Of Tomorrow 21:17, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Snake Bite looks like Storm 2 lite, and it'll be the same result. On another note, I'm moving in to my student house tomorrow and we've got no internet for a week or so, so I'm unlikely to be able to vote for a while. Combatwombat555 (talk) 22:38, September 22, 2016 (UTC) When I had that problem, I just went into my University for a few hours a day simply for the purpose of using the internet xD. Jimlaad43(talk) 23:08, September 22, 2016 (UTC) Chopper is just far too fragile in both weapon and body. Snake Bite will win comfortably. Nweston8 (talk) 13:43, September 23, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Snake Bite (Extreme Warriors) (0-11)

Black and Blue vs Full Metal Anorak

Black and Blue	Full Metal Anorak
Votes for Black and Blue I can see why someone may decide to vote for FMA, but remember that each clusterbot is almost double the weight of FMA, and although the drums will simply ride up the low wedge, they will scratch it, score points and eventually win. Jimlaad43(talk) 10:26, September 24, 2016 (UTC) I think the drum blades may be the deciding factor.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 10:51, September 24, 2016 (UTC) I'm looking at this and I ask myself, what did it actually take to beat Black and Blue? Well, technically it was Daisy Cutter...who had a heavy full body spinner as its weapon. A literal bolt-on-blade doesn't exactly have the same sort of impact. I'm in the favour of Black and Blue making it past the qualifiers this time. CrashBash (talk) 12:12, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Full Metal Anorak wasn't too bad, but I struggle seeing it push the clusters around. Meanwhile, the blades of Black and Blue do at least look like they could cause some damage, so I am giving them the vote here. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 12:30, September 24, 2016 (UTC) There is sense behind a vote for Full Metal Anorak but there is two of Black and Blue, and if REALI-T can cause damage to its armour simply through ramming, then Black and Blue should get enough damage points itself. Nweston8 (talk) 13:37, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Black and Blue have the drums to shred Full Metal Anorak’s shell, and Full Metal Anorak does not have the ideal weight or turning circle to take advantage of each half’s poor pushing power. VulcansHowl (talk) 17:41, September 24, 2016 (UTC) The drums are rolling for Black and Blue. They should be more aggressive and more damaging, and with the 2016 rules, won't it still be able to fight even if one is beaten? It happened with Terror Turtle and Nuts. Raz3r(talk) 18:44, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Clusterbots and minibots are very different things, though. We'd need to know the exact rule before assuming anything. CrashBash (talk) 18:50, September 24, 2016 (UTC) 50% or more of the robot needs to be immobilised to lose, and the minibots aren't big enough to count. However, Gemini and Black and Blue are 50%, so one out will be an immobilisation. Jimlaad4Y3(talk) 19:51, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Fair enough. Won't affect my vote, I was just curious. Raz3r(talk) 20:54, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Whilst FMA was better than Black and Blue, the weight and weaponry clinches it. Hopefully Blue and Black don't go much further. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 00:32, September 25, 2016 (UTC) Actually I would say that Black and Blue probably WOULD count as mobile in 2016, even if only half of it remained. The reason being that the 50% immobilisation that applied to Apollo, PP3D and Eruption didn't count as death. Going by this belief, Black's chances are even greater. Hmm, I guess this was the second robot to be called Blue... ToastUltimatum 01:13, September 25, 2016 (UTC) While I didn't see much of what the drums working or doing much in it's melee in Series 7, I can see it out maneuvering FMA, and getting a side-on attack and winning the fight TKK3nta (talk) 03:55, September 26, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Full Metal Anorak All of your points make sense Jimlaad, but the fact for me remains that Full Metal Anorak was more mobile than Black and Blue ever was. If Full Metal Anorak pushes one half into the CPZ, I don't think it'll escape. GutripperSpeak 10:58, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Despite the fact there are two of them, they are hardly going to be likely to control Full Metal Anorak's movement. FMA can with its wedges, to pit one of the clusterbots. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:41, September 24, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Black and Blue (10-2)

Scorpion vs Jackson Wallop

Scorpion	Jackson Wallop
Votes for Scorpion I'm going to say that Scorpion will push Jackson Wallop about and could even overturn it.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 10:53, September 24, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Jackson Wallop Well firstly, that tail is coming off within the first 10 seconds of the bout. Secondly, although it lost, Jackson Wallop wasn't all that bad in the push off against Big Nipper, so if it can't reach low enough for the main part of Scorpion, it should be able to keep on top of the push war. Jimlaad43(talk) 10:26, September 24, 2016 (UTC) This Scorpion isn't durable enough to beat a Series 7 spinner. GutripperSpeak 11:00, September 24, 2016 (UTC) I'm not seeing Scorpion's lifting arm being able to overturn Jackson Wallop, and its armour looks real exposed. Still, at least its second incarnation will make it through. CrashBash (talk) 12:13, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Jackson Wallop was a decent machine, so it should be able to cause some serious damage to the Extreme 1 version of Scorpion. An immobilisation victory in my opinion. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 12:14, September 24, 2016 (UTC) I don't think Scorpion can do much to disrupt Jackson Wallop's consistent hits. I see an immobilisation after a few hits. Nweston8 (talk) 13:37, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Jackson Wallop’s flails proved surprisingly deadly in Series 7, being able to rip armour panels off Killerkat with ease. So, it should make light work of Scorpion’s fibreglass shell. VulcansHowl (talk) 17:41, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Two very modest robots; benefit of the doubt says Jackson Wallop's weaponry will cause enough minor damage to sneak the win. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:43, September 24, 2016 (UTC) I wasn't sure at first about this one at first, but after rewatching their battles I've realized that JW's weapon is actually better than I first thought. It should damage Scorpion enough to win on a Judges' Decision, if not a KO. Raz3r(talk) 18:55, September 24, 2016 (UTC) It's OK Scorpion, you've got a much better shot with your spirit. ToastUltimatum 01:13, September 25, 2016 (UTC) The later versions of Scorpion have seen to done a lot better, but with this Scorpion. I don't see it doing much against Jackson Wallop and we have seen what Wallop can do with fur and I can see it getting some major damage into Scorpion's armour, Jackson Wallop for me TKK3nta (talk) 04:02, September 26, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Jackson Wallop (1-10)

Inquisitor Mk 2 vs Crocodilotron

Inquisitor Mk 2	Crocodilotron
Votes for Inquisitor Mk 2 What was the croc supposed to do again? Jimlaad43(talk) 10:26, September 24, 2016 (UTC) YeahDiotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 10:53, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Whilst I can understand the versitility of Crocodilotron's weapon, it's let down by the fact that the whole set up is extremely high off the ground. Inquisitor, for a Series 3 robot, had quite a low clearance if I remember correctly, and whilst it might be slow, it should still be able to get underneath the crocodile and overturn it eventually. CrashBash (talk) 12:14, September 24, 2016 (UTC) This will be awkward for both; Crocodilotron isn't low enough to bring its weapon into play while Inquisitor Mk 2 may struggle to find the right position and angle to lift the croc because of how long and wide it is. Inquisitor Mk 2 will be able to consistently attack though, and should control proceedings or eventually topple Crocodilotron. Nweston8 (talk) 13:37, September 24, 2016 (UTC) It’s a shame we never saw Inquisitor Mk2 in combat, but from comparing both robot’s pictures, I’m sure it can exploit Crocodilotron’s high ground clearance and perhaps topple it over with that arm. Don’t expect any Chaos 2-like performances here, though. VulcansHowl (talk) 17:41, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Not convinced Crocodilotron's weapon can do anything to Inquisitor, but its weaponry will be able to at least lift and shove around a bit. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:44, September 24, 2016 (UTC) That ground clearance looks way too high for a machine with no self-righting mechanism. While Inquisitor won't exactly match Chaos 2 for an awe factor, it should still get the same job done in the end; lifting Crocodilotron over and leaving it to die. Raz3r(talk) 19:11, September 24, 2016 (UTC) I don't believe the Croc can get underneath, that flipper rides high off the ground. It won't be an easy job to flip Croc with that weak flipper, but it should happen. RA2; aka Resetti's Replicas. (My Talk) 01:55, September 25, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Crocodilotron Crocodilotron's design in my opinion is underrated; its jaws can not only grab, but flip opponents too. Although Inquisitor MK 2 is a fantastic robot for its time, it was very, very slow. Not only that, but in the Pinball, it didn't seem easy to control and although its lifter could hoist Matilda over, it was slow to function too. So I am going for the surprise here and say that Crocodilotron's far greater speed will be enough to avoid the flipper and dominate the entire bout. Hence, Crocodilotron to win on aggression. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 12:00, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Surprise, surprise, I'm on this side. Just like how Berserk 2 was a great machine overshadowed by Hypno-Disc, I'm of the opinion that Crocodilotron was fairly good for its time. Over Inquisitor, it has an advantage in speed, aggression and weight. It's so big that I don't think Inquisitor could successfully flip it. When the lift fails, Crocodilotron can munch on the lifter. It's too late for me to bother with more detail though, I guess. ToastUltimatum 01:13, September 25, 2016 (UTC) I'm going to vote this side as well. Swapping the robots out, would a (non-invertible) SMIDSY beat The Big Cheese? I think so. Inquisitor Mk 2 was way too slow with the lifter to deal with a faster robot, and I think weight plays a big part too. GutripperSpeak 01:39, September 25, 2016 (UTC) Darn edit conflict, but I suppose its a good thing this time, because I've changed from Inquisitor to Crocodilatron after reading Toast's vote. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 01:41, September 25, 2016 (UTC) I'm gonna agree with Crocodilotron, it never got a chance to show what it could do. And Inquisitor Mk 2 was incredibly slow in the Pinball, While Crocodilotron may not be able to get it's jaw clamped down on Inquisitor I can see it winning this bout on control and aggression on the Judges' Decision. TKK3nta (talk) 04:13, September 26, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Inquisitor Mk 2 (8-5)

U.R.O. vs Beast

U.R.O.	Beast
Votes for U.R.O.	Votes for Beast Yay, Two unreliable robots and weapons paired against each other(!) Beast did flip a few times, so I'll give them the benifit of the doubt, plus the wedge that could get underneath. Jimlaad43(talk) 10:26, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Beast has exposed wheels but URO isn't the robot to take advantage of them. GutripperSpeak 11:01, September 24, 2016 (UTC) In the Live Events, Beast is really good just a shame about the 2016 series.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 11:48, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Agreed. I remember one of the first fights I saw it in, it flipped itself over and lost a wheel on the first flip before throwing Behemoth out of the arena despite not being able to move properly. Sort of showcases its power and unreliability in one. Shame Behemoth was its Tag Team partner in that fight.. RelicRaider (talk) 13:27, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Yeah, I'm not seeing U.R.O. making it through the qualifiers this time either. It just sorta died against Bigger Brother. CrashBash (talk) 12:15, September 24, 2016 (UTC) U.R.O. is one of those robots I always forget. It seems to me that its disc is too high up to cause damage to the exposed wheels of Beast, so the latter will flip to win. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 12:17, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Beast should do better here. We saw neither robot really working properly on TV, but I trust Beast to do better here. RelicRaider (talk) 13:27, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Beast should have plenty enough in the tank to win this one. Nweston8 (talk) 13:37, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Beast’s wheels may be vulnerable to spinners, but I can’t see U.R.O. capitalising on them, given how easily it was defeated by Bigger Brother in Series 7. Beast to flip U.R.O. around until it breaks down. VulcansHowl (talk) 17:41, September 24, 2016 (UTC) At least Beast's weapon worked. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:45, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Beast has the more potent weapon, and its wheels shouldn't have any problems. Beast would work out a new meaning for U.R.O. instead: U R Out. Raz3r(talk) 19:15, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Prediction: Beast will make the Top 64 and fall there. ToastUltimatum 01:13, September 25, 2016 (UTC) No pun intended, but I can kinda see Beast.... Being total beast in this tournament, I'd say it can go further than 64, While it can be unreliable. That Weapon can be really powerful and I can see it dumping U.R.O. over the arena and making a powerful impact in this tournament. TKK3nta (talk) 04:20, September 26, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Beast (0-12)

Riptilion vs Brawler

Riptilion	Brawler
Votes for Riptilion	Votes for Brawler Would Riptilion be to low for the blade? Yes. Was Riptilion competent enough to do anything to Brawler? Probably not. Would this battle be close but dull? Yes. Jimlaad43(talk) 10:26, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Brawler may not be the best but it can certainly beat Riptilion.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 11:49, September 24, 2016 (UTC) I'm almost half expecting Brawler to charge in spike first and get stuck for a bit, which'll likely cause damage to Riptilion. Either way, I don't think there's much the reptile can do. CrashBash (talk) 12:16, September 24, 2016 (UTC) The sit-and-spin techniques of Brawler I believe could probably cause some significant damage to Riptillion here, whilst I cannot see the discs of the latter being effective. Hence, Riptillion, whom was quite unreliable, falls at the first hurdle. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 12:22, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Riptilion has never been much of a fighter, and I can't see how it'll deal with the aggressive Brawler. Nweston8 (talk) 13:37, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Neither robot has potent weapons or good pushing power, but Brawler is much faster and more aggressive than Riptilion, and will cause Riptilion to break down after several slams. VulcansHowl (talk) 17:41, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Neither robot has a great deal of potency, but Brawler did manage to win a couple of fights in Extreme Warrior 2. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:46, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Riptilion just wasn't very good was it? It wasn't powerful or well controlled and I'm not convinced that it was as quick as was suggested. It also ran away a lot. Brawler could definitely cause some internal damage to Riptilion if they get close enough. Raz3r(talk) 19:20, September 24, 2016 (UTC) If Brawler didn't have that spike, I would've actually gone for the robot with an active weapon. I can believe the idea of Brawler getting its spike stuck in Riptilion though. ToastUltimatum 01:13, September 25, 2016 (UTC) Eh, this fight may not seem the most appealing, I can't see either robot making it past the rest of the tournament. Brawler I can see winning it here via aggression, and failing in the next round. TKK3nta (talk) 04:24, September 26, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Brawler (0-10)

Manic Mutant vs Cerberus

Manic Mutant	Cerberus
Votes for Manic Mutant Going for another surprise here. In my opinion, Manic Mutant wasn't a bad Series 3 robot by any means, as it was beating Gravedigger before its eventual toppling. As for Cerberus, its weapon (a lifter), never seemed to work properly in battle, despite having several opportunties to flip S.M.I.D.S.Y. over. Indeed, Cerberus' only real way of attacking would be to spin, as the lifter actually inhibits its pushing power greatly. Although I suspect that the attacks may cause some damage, remember that Manic Mutant's lifter was quite effective and was low to ground. Hence, I could see it becoming more aggresive, possibly pushing the newer machine around. A judges' decision overall, but I think Manic Mutant just about has this. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 12:09, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Manic Mutant was a solid robot - certainly not in the lowest of the low for Series 3 robots, and I think it could do something here. Cerberus' pushing power is a bit overrated for me, and it's never been the most controlled robot. Manic Mutant to win on a judges through good, controlled aggression. Nweston8 (talk) 13:37, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Manic Mutant should be able to exploit Cerberus’ ground clearance with the front forks, and be able to push it around with ease even if its weapon isn't powerful enough to lift it. It also appeared to have better driving than Cerberus, so it should be able to avoid Cerberus’ lower jaw and win on aggression. VulcansHowl (talk) 17:41, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Manic Mutant was actually doing well against Gravedigger until it was flipper, pushing it around a little bit. The fork thing on the front might make that harder and Cerberus, but Cerberus' weaponry never impressed me that much. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:47, September 24, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Cerberus Manic Mutant will be pushed around quite easily by spot. Jimlaad43(talk) 10:26, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Cerberus can easily handle a sub par Series 3 robot. GutripperSpeak 11:05, September 24, 2016 (UTC) What they said.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 11:49, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Not sure what to make of this one. I don't see either overturning the other, and I know I ragged on Cerberus a lot during the Audited Series 4...like, a LOT...but here it's up against a robot with questionable weapons, a high ground clearance as standard and what looks like pretty flimsy armour. I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt. CrashBash (talk) 12:19, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Manic Mutant is another robot with a dodgy ground clearance, and an updated version of a decent pushing machine should be no match for the Series 3 robot. Cerberus can also sit and spin and cause some minor damage with its tail. Raz3r(talk) 19:22, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Is this Extreme 2 Cerberus? Because if so, I think the 20kg difference between Cerberus and Manic Mutant also has to be taken into account. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 00:32, September 25, 2016 (UTC) I tried to draft a vote for Manic Mutant, but I just look at its ground clearance and sigh. My initial reaction of "Cerberus' claws would puncture Manic Mutant's armour" turned into "Manic Mutant cannot breach the clearance of Cerberus' claws", and there will be no pushing advantage when Manic Mutant isn't wedged underneath. The House Robots will do the work. ToastUltimatum 01:13, September 25, 2016 (UTC) So remeber how I said that Bugs' best case secnario vs a heavyweight was to be an "annoying doorstop?" Manic Mutant against Gravedigger was effectively the same thing. They were decently driven, getting to Gravedigger's rear and staying there, but they could never capitalize on it, through use of their weapon or pushing. The one push I saw them get looked more like they were riding the momentum of a long charge. I'm not convinced they could beat Cerberus in a head-to-head pushing match. RA2; aka Resetti's Replicas. (My Talk) 01:50, September 25, 2016 (UTC) Neither have an effective weapon, But I think Cerberus will out push Manic Mutant and push it either towards the house robots or just dump it into the pit. TKK3nta (talk) 04:28, September 26, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Cerberus (4-9)

Hard vs Bot-Ugly

Hard	Bot-Ugly
Votes for Hard Hard is not flipping Bot-Ugly, but then again, Bot-Ugly is not going to do anything to Hard in return. Jimlaad43(talk) 10:26, September 24, 2016 (UTC) ^Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 11:50, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Hard is called that because of its hard armour. Hence, I doubt the weapon of Bot-Ugly could really deal much offense against its opponent. Hard's flipper meanwhile, is the opposite, so I suspect a ton of flips will occur, and it will win on a judges' decision or break down. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 12:12, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Bot Ugly is going to find this impossible no matter which way it's entered. Enter it as is shown in the picture, and most likely its claws won't even touch Hard. Have it the other way up, and those claws will just provide something for Hard to bother ala Riptilion. We have to remember that Hard dominated its battle against Riptilion, and was also arguably the strongest robot in its Series 7 melee...this suggests to me it's better than "sub-par" at the very least. Bot Ugly wishes it could be called sub-par. CrashBash (talk) 12:21, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Hard is too, well, hard... for Bot-Ugly to worry it in any way. It'll keep nagging away and take a judges decision if it doesn't win via knockout. Nweston8 (talk) 13:37, September 24, 2016 (UTC) It all depends on which position Bot Ugly starts in. If it starts this match upright, it should be able to grab hold of Hard even if it is unable to do anything to counter Hard’s aggression. If it starts upside-down, though, Hard should easily exploit Bot-Ugly’s ground clearance and push it into the pit after a largely uneventful confrontation. VulcansHowl (talk) 17:41, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Meh, Hard will win this one by actually managing to do something to its opponent, even if it is just minor flips. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:48, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Bot Ugly is a pretty weak machine and has no chance of causing damage. Can't really add much else to what has already been said. Raz3r(talk) 19:26, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Much easier than deciding Hard vs Ming III. ToastUltimatum 01:13, September 25, 2016 (UTC) This was not a Hard decision. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 23:56, September 25, 2016 (UTC) Yea, I don't think I'll have to say much on this battle, the others have already said what would probably happen and I'll just agree with their opinion. Bot-Ugly down the pit. TKK3nta (talk) 04:29, September 26, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Bot-Ugly
Winner: Hard (11-0)

Thor vs Psychokiller

Thor	Psychokiller
Votes for Thor No chance. Jimlaad43(talk) 10:26, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Is the 2016 version going to be used as well? But yeah Thor will easily win this.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 11:51, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Yep, I'm just struggling a bit to come up with a decent name to distinguish it from this one. Jimlaad43(talk) 12:59, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Call that one Thor 2, perhaps? CrashBash (talk) 13:01, September 26, 2016 (UTC) I was maybe thinking of calling it Thor Reeboot or Thor Returns, but 2 might have to do. Jimlaad43(talk) 13:05, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Why not just call it Thor 2016 or Thor (2016)? Gets to the point, more accurate for the 2016 version, and still offers enough of a differentiation between the two versions. VulcansHowl (talk) 13:29, September 28, 2016 (UTC) I agree with Vulcan what's the problem with not calling it Thor 2016, especially as "Thor Returns" or "Thor Reboot" are awful titles.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 13:42, September 28, 2016 (UTC) This Thor's hammer was inaccurate, but still highly damaging. Although I like Psychokiller, and find its design great for Series 3, its too unreliable to sustain these attacks. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 12:15, September 24, 2016 (UTC) I guess Psychokiller should be thankful that it's this version of Thor, and not the alternative, but it still has by far the inferior axe, and is doomed to fall at the qualifiers again. CrashBash (talk) 12:23, September 24, 2016 (UTC) A shame Psychokiller has to fall here, because I really do like it, but there's no way it'll be able to tank hits from Thor. Nweston8 (talk) 13:37, September 24, 2016 (UTC) While it’s not as deadly or well-rounded as the 2016 series version, the Series 7 Thor should still cause a lot of damage to Psychokiller’s armour and pound it into submission. VulcansHowl (talk) 17:41, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Qu'est-ce que c'est. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:50, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Even this version of Thor had a fairly powerful, if inaccurate, weapon. It only needs to hit Psychokiller a couple of times to win this bout. Raz3r(talk) 19:28, September 24, 2016 (UTC) Thor S7 is tough to judge because of its inaccuracy, but Psychokiller is HUGE. You know, I went on Sporcle the other day and saw that somebody made a brand-new quiz, asking you to name all of Thor's opponents, but it excluded the 2016 series. Why would you do it that way ToastUltimatum 01:13, September 25, 2016 (UTC) Psychokiller is only a bit bigger than Lightning, but its armour was so weak that Dreadnaut carved it up almost accidentally. One hit will give Thor enough damage points to win, or even a knockout. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 02:48, September 25, 2016 (UTC) Ah, this version of Thor, it's interesting how successful they have become now then when they were during Robot Wars before the reboot, While they where inaccurate with the weapon with this Thor, I can see it hitting Psychokiller a couple of times before it dies. TKK3nta (talk) 05:05, September 26, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Psychokiller
Winner: Thor (11-0)

Anvil vs Forklift

Anvil	Forklift
Votes for Anvil Anvil will win this easily. Unfortunately, these next 8 battles aren't the most inspiring, but better ones will come later. Jimlaad43(talk) 08:06, September 26, 2016 (UTC) It is a shame, since I like this version of Forklift, but it is far outclassed here. Anvil will push it all over the place, perhaps into a house robot, of whom will destroy it. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 11:56, September 26, 2016 (UTC) It should stand to reason that when two rambots meet, the robot in the higher weight limit should have the advantage. This works here. CrashBash (talk) 13:02, September 26, 2016 (UTC) I don't think it's fair to call Forklift a rambot, the weapon presumably worked, but I think they'll need to send in their Revenge. ToastUltimatum 13:19, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Anvil has this easy.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 13:21, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Anvil seemed like a decent rammer in the Special Armed Forces Episode of Extreme Series 1, so I can probably see it push Forklift around into the house robots or down the pit TKK3nta (talk) 13:59, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Anvil was a good rammer. Forklift is a topheavy borderline middleweight with a high ground clearance. Do the maths. --Demon Of Tomorrow 14:41, September 26, 2016 (UTC) I think Anvil could have done well in Series 5 if it had entered, certainly it could have reached the Heat Final of several heats at least. They won't have any problems here. Raz3r(talk) 16:36, September 26, 2016 (UTC) A very modest S2 reserve vs one of a the very few undefeated robots. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:26, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Anvil is low (understatement), durable and a good pusher. It'll win this comfortably. Nweston8 (talk) 19:03, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Anvil looks low and fast enough to get underneath Forklift’s ground clearance and ram it into oblivion. VulcansHowl (talk) 20:18, September 26, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Forklift
Winner: Anvil (11-0)

Raizer Blade vs Devastator

Raizer Blade	Devastator
Votes for Raizer Blade Raizer Blade may take some damage from the disc, but it seems to be a better pusher than Devastator, who will have to try hard to not be shoved around and pitted. Jimlaad43(talk) 08:06, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Remind me...wasn't it the last Ragnabot that we discussed the fact that, by design, Devastator's disc was actually more-or-less useless? I do recall one such discussion in an Arena tournament anyway, since it's very thin and sheet steel. Hypno-Disc, this thing is not...and the only reason Raizer Blade suffered so badly in Series 4 was because of all the damage it took from Hypno-Disc. On a level playing field, there is really nothing Devastator can do. Raizer Blade would likely win purely on aggression. CrashBash (talk) 13:05, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Devastator never impressed me, it's disc I'm certain that it isn't as powerful as Hypno-Disc and I don't see it making an impact. Raizer Blade, as CrashBash said, suffered in Series 4 due to Hypno-Disc's damage in the first round melee and Heat Final so a relatively poor disc will not do much.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 13:24, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Tricky one this, seeing as I don't trust either weapon. However, I reckon Raizer Blade would be more aggressive and I (like others) don't think Raizer Blade was 100% in its last two battles either, although I wouldn't be disheartened if the vote went the other way here. Raz3r(talk) 16:39, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Devastator is no Hypno-Disc. Raizer Blade should stand up to it better, and flip it a couple of times, and maybe even pit it. BTW, as we are using the 2016 arena, are we also using the 2016 judges criteria where aggression earns more than damage? Hogwild94 (talk) 17:28, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Poor Raizer Blade didn’t get a proper chance to show what it could do in Series 4 after it was crippled by Hypno-Disc. Even so, I doubt that Devastator’s disc will be anywhere near as deadly as Hypno-Disc’s – it didn’t seem to work fully in its Series 7 melee, after all – and Raizer Blade will come out as being more controlled and aggressive with a few crucial flips from its arm. As Hogwild94 says, it makes much more sense to go by 2016 series rules and judging criteria since we are using the 2016 arena. VulcansHowl (talk) 20:18, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Raizer Blade should win this by rushing in and getting under the disc to control the match. Devastator's weapon was pretty sad. RA2; aka Resetti's Replicas. (My Talk) 22:07, September 26, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Devastator Raizer Blade has not proven itself a hardy machine, and Raizer Blade didn't exactly cover itself in glory as a flipper or a pusher. I'll give relatively unknown potential then benefit of the doubt over a known failure. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 08:38, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Devastator is a cool-looking robot, and its disc does look to have potential. Is it as powerful as the Series 4 Hypno-Disc? Maybe, but even if it isn't, Raizer Blade is too unreliable anyway. Besides, the latter cannot fight back anyway, since all the lifter can do is topple an invertible machine here. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 11:57, September 26, 2016 (UTC) It's a tough call because what CrashBash said about Devastator's disc is true. RA2 informed us that the weapon is merely a piece of steel cut into the shape of a disc, so it's not going to cause much damage. Still though, it is capable of causing the illusion of damage, and I don't think Hypno-Disc can be held totally responsible for that slow performance against Terror-Bull. Devastator to attack with the disc, people will assume it caused damage that they can't see because of the red lighting in 2016, and essentially take it on aggression... maybe? It's hard to guess. ToastUltimatum 13:24, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Even with Devastator's Disc not being the most powerful weapon, I could see it suffer a decent amount of damage to Raizer Blade, and knocking bits of the side like what Hypno-Disc has down. Plus, after seeing Raizer Blade's history with losing control in one of it's wheels. I could see it losing control after a couple of hits causing it to be immobilised TKK3nta (talk) 14:03, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Of the two, I think that Devastator's disc is going to be a lot better than the odd 4-bar lifter of Raizer Blade, and considering that Devastator was at least reliable, it'll be a match where Devastator cuts away at the sides of Raizer Blade until a breakdown occurs. --Demon Of Tomorrow 14:43, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Devastator never impressed me, but Raizer Blade flat out did the opposite. Not to mention that the most aggression Raizer Blade can show is flipping an invertible robot, and the most Devastator can do doubles as damage points. I think the result is clear here. Devastator was pushed by two robots, one of which was Tornado, so don't go dismissing Devastator's ability to resist a feeble robot with an ineffective flipping arm. GutripperSpeak 14:50, September 26, 2016 (UTC) I'm annoyed in a way, because I want Raizer Blade to go further, but Devastator will be able to inflict damage that will be seen as visually enough for the judges to sway a battle that won't have much between it. Raizer Blade may also have trouble getting consistent purchase on Devastator, which is an awkward shape. Nweston8 (talk) 19:03, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Hmmmn. This looks interesting, but I just find Raizer Blade will be too slow in trying to flip Devastator over. That oversized cutting disc could do some damage I'm sure, and perhaps send both robots spinning away. I think Raizer Blade will unfortunately find itself dancing around the arena unable to get much of a purchase. Again, shame, I do like Raizer Blade but I find I can't vote for it here. RelicRaider (talk) 22:17, September 26, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Devastator (7-8)

Depoppesaurus Rex vs Maximill

Depoppesaurus Rex	Maximill
Votes for Depoppesaurus Rex I think Depop was competent, and should just have the edge in this all Dutch battle. Jimlaad43(talk) 08:06, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Depoppesaurus Rex was quite slow, but it seemed reasonably well-built. Meanwhile, I suspect Maximill was a joke robot, considering the "for sale" slogan on the baseplate. I can see the former eventually toppling the latter without taking too much damage. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 12:04, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Remind me, are we using the Dutch series version of Maximill too? Since that one was the more up-to-date version? Whatever way around it is, Depoppesaurus has this one comfortably in the bag. CrashBash (talk) 13:07, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Not the best machines but it can certainly win this fight.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 13:25, September 26, 2016 (UTC) By liberty of its shape and extra wheels, and perhaps a less flimsy weapon, I would vote for the Dutch Battles version of Maximill to win this fight. The UK series MaxiMill, however, is just too poor. Will we see both Maximills? I certainly hope so, otherwise I've voted for the wrong robot. ToastUltimatum 13:28, September 26, 2016 (UTC) TBH I didn't realise they were completely different. I could add Maximill from the Dutch wars if you want? For 1 extra qualifier battle? Jimlaad43(talk) 14:49, September 26, 2016 (UTC) I approve. CrashBash (talk) 14:58, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Yeah, let's do it. ToastUltimatum 15:06, September 26, 2016 (UTC) I don't see why not. Let's give Maximill another chance. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:09, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Yea, this Maximill... Depoppesaurus Rex will be very slow, and may not be able to tip Maximill over but would win on aggression. TKK3nta (talk) 14:08, September 26, 2016 (UTC) At least Depop looked like it was held in place with more than cellotape. --Demon Of Tomorrow 14:44, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Is Maximill's weapon the flimsiest spinner ever? Who knows, but it won't be enough to beat a mediocre machine that never won a battle. Raz3r(talk) 16:42, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Two of the better continental robots to appear on the UK series, but sadly no contest: an easy get underneath, push around and flip or pit (or both) win for... buzz Lord Hailsham? The Belgians. Correct! Hogwild94 (talk) 17:30, September 26, 2016 (UTC) This is a less durable robot from the Poppe's, but it hardly needs to have Storm 2's defensive capabilities to survive Maximill. Nweston8 (talk) 19:03, September 26, 2016 (UTC) The Extreme 1 Maximill will be able to cause gashes in Depoppesaurus Rex’s armour, but I cannot see it surviving long without being lifted into its windmill position… VulcansHowl (talk) 20:18, September 26, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Maximill
Winner: Depoppesaurus Rex (11-0)

Project One vs Monad

Project One	Monad
Votes for Project One Hmm, these two robots were very uncompetitive in their respective series. In theory, Project One could have been a decent robot had the builders not decided to concentrate on weaponry rather than armour. Then again, I suspect the weapons were decent, with the axe being able to remove Sir Killalot's breastplate, so it could cause some damage to Monad. Speaking of Monad, its weapons could crush a lot of concrete, so it shouldn't be underestimated. But overall, Monad's main issues were its really high ground clearance and the fact that it wasn't very stable. I can see it charging in to Project One's wedge and toppling itself ala Robopig. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 12:09, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Well, this is going to be fun. I've already torn BOTH these robots a new Aggrobot before, but regrettably, one of these frankly terrible creations has to go through. Do consider, though, that I ranked Monad higher on the list than Project One for a reason...Project One has flaws in regards to its lack of armour and technically drive, but Monad is just flawed full stop. CrashBash (talk) 13:09, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Having read the Technical Difficulties section of Project One's article, I think it's fair to pull a VIPER 01 and give it some benefit of the doubt. I'll presume its natural speed, and given how much Monad reared up on literally any drive, it'll be so far up the lifter that it should be an easy flip. ToastUltimatum 13:32, September 26, 2016 (UTC) The fact that I have to put one of these through while I have to eliminate Hyperactive and Scutters Revenge in the qualifiers is rather saddening... anyways, Project One wins because it's fighting Monad. --Demon Of Tomorrow 14:47, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Monad's ground clearance is even worse than Juggernot 2's, and that's saying something. Another battle in which I don't really trust either robot's weapons, but I can't ignore the stability issues that Monad had against Tiberius 2, and I think Project One will pip it by being able to simply get underneath Monad and shove them (or lift them) and cause Monad to roll over. Raz3r(talk) 17:27, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Despite the speed and armour advantage, Monad's ground clearance does it in. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:31, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Project One to take advantage of Monad's instability at some point. Nweston8 (talk) 19:03, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Monad was pretty unstable in its battle, and P1's flipper did sort of work. Assuming they can make it drive straight, it should topple Monad with ease.RA2; aka Resetti's Replicas. (My Talk) 22:04, September 26, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Monad Monad to win by being faster, having better weapons and being more reliable. (A sentence I never expected to write!) Jimlaad43(talk) 08:06, September 26, 2016 (UTC) It has no armour and Monad, though not the best, can get its weaponry through the gaps and cause some internal damaging.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 13:26, September 26, 2016 (UTC) While Monad may be flawed in many ways, at least it has armour. It may be able attack the internals a bit. TKK3nta (talk) 14:11, September 26, 2016 (UTC) I was pleasantly surprised by Monad’s speed and aggression in its Series 5 battle, but its gaping ground clearance means that any front-on attacks against Project One’s wedge and lifter will be suicidal. I expect that it will attack Project One’s sides from the outset and cause it to break down before it does, even if it does get its armour hacked into at some point by Project One’s axe. Project One, even with its fixed speed controllers, still looks too sluggish and poorly-controlled for me to take advantage of its more potent weapons. VulcansHowl (talk) 20:18, September 26, 2016 (UTC) I'm not quite sure how to call this one. Project 1's link was very exposed, and fell out very easily against Blue, and even a jostle from Monad would cause the same troubles, but thing is I'm not sure whether to disregard this information and say the team fixed it up to stop that happening again, or whether to stick with the fact that the link is still exposed and not taped in. I think I'll give Monad the benefit of the doubt. It's very unstable but one quick onslaught could knock that link out, and leave Project 1 completely disabled. RelicRaider (talk) 22:13, September 26, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Project One (8-5)

Snookums vs Vector of Armageddon

Snookums	Vector of Armageddon
Votes for Snookums Even against something not too good like Snookums, the featherweight qualities of VoA leave it stuck and struggling to do anything, apart from run away. Jimlaad43(talk) 08:06, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Unusual battle here, but remember that Snookums is a runners-up for a reason. I feel it can use its sword to lift the featherweight machine. Can it topple it? Maybe, but regardless, I do not see what Vector of Armageddon can do in return. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 12:00, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Another example of two robots that fell in the qualifers last time fighting each other. Sadly, it'll be Snookums who makes it through this time. Adam Clark will have to rely on his three heavyweight machines. CrashBash (talk) 13:12, September 26, 2016 (UTC) I doubt either will topple each other but I think Snookums will be the more reliable.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 13:28, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Vector of Armageddon truly deserved a combat battle, but only in the context of Series 1. ToastUltimatum 13:34, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Ahh, a Series 1 featherweight, VoA seems to have picked the short straw this time. TKK3nta (talk) 14:14, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Wow, this set of 8 qualifiers is really disappointing, isn't it? --Demon Of Tomorrow 14:48, September 26, 2016 (UTC) A pity, but what can Vector of Armageddon do here? Nothing, that's what. Raz3r(talk) 17:29, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Was going to give VOA an honourary vote, but A it's Pointless (column starts ticking), and B it was quite slow IIRC, so it probably won't be able to exploit Snookums' ground clearance effectively. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:32, September 26, 2016 (UTC) If Snookums was against a heavyweight with the profile of Vector of Armageddon then it'd find it a struggle. Instead, it'll still be a strange fight, but it'll be one where it won't be troubled. Nweston8 (talk) 19:03, September 26, 2016 (UTC) I can see Vector of Armageddon acting like a mobile doorstop towards Snookums and ramming it several times a la Nuts vs Terrorhurtz. But while it’s fast, it doesn’t have the speed or weight advantage to completely topple Snookums over, and the scoop looks too steep for it to properly get underneath anyway. Snookums will eventually get its flipping sword into action for once and flick Vector of Armageddon over like a flea. VulcansHowl (talk) 20:18, September 26, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Vector of Armageddon
Winner: Snookums (11-0)

Piece De Resistance vs Weld-Dor 3

Piece De Resistance	Weld-Dor 3
Votes for Piece De Resistance	Votes for Weld-Dor 3 PdR may not be very good, but I don't hate it for that, to have good robots, you need bad robots to compare it to. An easy win for Weld-Dor though. Jimlaad43(talk) 08:06, September 26, 2016 (UTC) You know what guys? I actually like Piece De Resistance, as it was very visually entertaining. Plus, I am pretty sure that it wasn't built for fighting you know, ala robots like Granny's Revenge or Team Death's own Death Warmed Up. I am actually surprised how many people on this wiki hate this robot, I mean, what did it do wrong? Regardless, it will fall at the Qualifiers again, with a flip of doom from Weld-Dor 3. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 12:14, September 26, 2016 (UTC) One is a decent robot let down by being drawn up against superior opponents. The other is a flat out joke let down by beliefs that having a shovel will make up for the sheer lack of power. Work it out. CrashBash (talk) 13:14, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Yeah....Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 13:28, September 26, 2016 (UTC) I don't hate Piece de Resistance, but to answer SpaceManiac's question, some people rip on the team over their quote (roughly) "we didn't have much power, but now that we've put a scoop on the front, we'll be able to push the bricks", which proved to be very untrue. I genuinely can't tell if the team were being serious with that logic, as the turbo-charging bit was clearly a joke. ToastUltimatum 13:38, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Thanks for the explanation ToastUltimatum. I have to say, there might have been two reasons that Colin Scott said that. One is that, as you mentioned, it was a joke, which I am pretty sure it was considering the "earthquake saw" on Death Warmed Up. The other, is that he might have panicked after being asked on the spot, and at least gave an answer (instead of saying they had no chance). After all, many people suffer from interview fright, and I am pretty sure that the majority of people whom entered Robot Wars, Team Death included, are intelligent people don't forget. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 17:44, September 26, 2016 (UTC) True, but regrettably it is all too easy to judge a team by what they say - obvious case in point, Foxic. It was just unfortunate that Colin Scott's claim may have come across more as ignorance rather than as a joke or a rushed answer as you say CrashBash (talk) 18:19, September 26, 2016 (UTC) This may be a very short fight, Weld-Dor 3 maybe able to get underneath Piece de Resistance and flip it over, game over for Piece de Resistance TKK3nta (talk) 14:17, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Ugh... --Demon Of Tomorrow 14:49, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Hear hear, TKK3nta. Raz3r(talk) 17:32, September 26, 2016 (UTC) I'll always have a soft spot for Piece de Resistance, as its heat was my first RW ep, and it and Napalm getting stuck in the wall are my earliest memories; seemed to recall it getting further than it did though. No discussion here though. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:35, September 26, 2016 (UTC) I like Weld-Dor 3; it'll be interesting to see how competitive it can be after this stroll of a battle. Nweston8 (talk) 19:03, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Wel-Dor 3 should easily get under Piece De Resistance and flip it over almost instantly. VulcansHowl (talk) 20:18, September 26, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Weld-Dor 3 (11-0)

Flippa vs Kat 3

Flippa	Kat 3
Votes for Flippa	Votes for Kat 3 IIRC Kat 3 was one of the larger casualties of the last Ragnabot Qualifiers, going out to Storm 2. Well here, they face something similar, but much much worse. Kat 3 finally make the heats. Jimlaad43(talk) 08:06, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Kat 3 on occasion, did have some problems self-righting. But I doubt Flippa will trouble it, considering how unreliable it was. Hence, a ton of axe blows will likely cause Flippa to break down. Let's hope that Kat 3 does well this time, unlike Ragnabot 1. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 12:11, September 26, 2016 (UTC) As a big fan of Kat 3, all I can say is "thank goodness". I think it's pretty clear it has the better weapons and certainly the superior drive. CrashBash (talk) 13:15, September 26, 2016 (UTC) At least Kat 3 can move and use its weapon unlike its opponent.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 13:29, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Kat 3 deserves a place in the competition. It also deserves a better image, but good lord, Series 7 only ever wanted to shoot it from the rear. ToastUltimatum 13:39, September 26, 2016 (UTC) I actually kinda liked Kat 3, Glad to see it may be going through to Ragnabot. It will control the entire match with putting holes through Flippa's armour. TKK3nta (talk) 14:21, September 26, 2016 (UTC) ... --Demon Of Tomorrow 14:50, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Even if Flippa moves properly, I doubt that flipper will be any use. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:35, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Pretty easy really, especially as this version of Kat 3 can self right. Raz3r(talk) 17:39, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Kat 3 is a decent robot, and is reliable enough, has a good enough weapon and is nimble enough to always beat robots of this tier. Nweston8 (talk) 19:03, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Flippa will break down quickly, possibly after Kat 3’s very first axe blow. VulcansHowl (talk) 20:18, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Are we using the series 6 Kat 3? In my opinion the series 7 version was much better, struggled less with self righting too. Plus it's axe didn't snap in half at any point during its run. RelicRaider (talk) 22:07, September 26, 2016 (UTC) We're using Series 7, I just can't find a good screenshot. I suppose I should at least take a back shot for the time being. ToastUltimatum 03:45, September 27, 2016 (UTC) What about File:Kat_3_impaled.JPG? It's always seemed a good shot to me. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 04:05, September 27, 2016 (UTC) It's not the most complimentary, as its axe is stuck in the floor, immobilising the robot. I'm sure my new rear shot will be used in the main competition. ToastUltimatum 18:30, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Our best shot of Schumey Too was it backing into the pit, Kat 3's is hardly any worse. CrashBash (talk) 20:33, September 29, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Kat 3 (0-12)

Major Tom 2 vs Cruella

Major Tom 2	Cruella
Votes for Major Tom 2 Major Tom was better than it's results show I think. The disc certainly looked potent, and a small Series 2 robot is not going to fare too well against it. Jimlaad43(talk) 08:06, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Since Major Tom caused Kliptonite to break down, I suspect its disc could probably cause the same fate in Cruella. Fingers-crossed Major Tom does well in Ragnabot 2. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 12:10, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Can't really argue with what has been said so far...also, "Major Tom 2" is what I took to calling this version too, at one point. CrashBash (talk) 13:16, September 26, 2016 (UTC) The disc can crumple the front easily.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 13:30, September 26, 2016 (UTC) I would like to agree with you Jimlaad... but in all fairness, a heat semi-final and an Annihilator third place is not bad. ToastUltimatum 13:42, September 26, 2016 (UTC) What I'm saying is it probably deserved more. Jimlaad43(talk) 14:52, September 26, 2016 (UTC) I can't really think of anything else that the others have said so far. I can agree pretty much with what everyone has said. I don't think Cruella would've made it out of the qualifiers no matter who they fought. TKK3nta (talk) 14:24, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Major Tom has a good flywheel that can easily make short work of Cruella. --Demon Of Tomorrow 14:51, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Despite the ground clearance which could be an issue, Major Tom can win back points due to having the better disc, which could do good things to the pre-Hypno-Disc armour of Cruella. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:36, September 26, 2016 (UTC) The bumper car drives on to Ragnabot Round 1 in splendid style! Might even cause some damage along the way! Raz3r(talk) 17:42, September 26, 2016 (UTC) A clinical victory for Major Tom, where we'll be able to see its weapon cause a good amount of damage. Nweston8 (talk) 19:03, September 26, 2016 (UTC) Major Tom’s disc will cause major damage to Cruella’s shell, possibly even immobilising it and destroying its chassis after a few hits. A fine start for the bubblegum dispenser head. VulcansHowl (talk) 20:18, September 26, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Cruella
Winner: Major Tom (11-0)

Run Away vs Napalm 2

Run Away	Napalm 2
Votes for Run Away Run Away should win this with ease, but then Napalm had a knack of winning battles by fluke, so don't discount Run Away pitting itself or something ridiculous like that. Jimlaad43(talk) 10:11, September 28, 2016 (UTC) I suspect that Run Away could use its wedge for either two things. Firstly, it uses it to ram and bash Napalm 2 in a similar style to how Steg-O-Saw-Us did, or it can use it to topple its opponent over. Even if that does not happen, I suspect that, with the use of its blades, it could cause enough damage and aggression to win on a judges' decision. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 11:28, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Run Away, though not hugely effective, can easily use its ramming blade to slam Napalm around.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 13:30, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Run Away should be able to win this one against a robot without any aggression and attacking potential. Nweston8 (talk) 14:28, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Run Away can at least drive straight, and its Robotica win showed it was pretty reliable against non-damaging robots. RA2; aka Resetti's Replicas. (My Talk) 14:47, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Meh, Napalm is too slow and inoffensive to be able to exploit Run Away's poor structure. Plus, for all that spinners could never somehow kill Napalm, those things look capable of it, somehow. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:41, September 28, 2016 (UTC) What a sad match this'll be. But at least Run Away has the speed advantage. The side blades should get some hits in and they can use the scoop to push Napalm around. Napalm will just flail its axe aimlessly at dead space before breaking down. --Headbanger14/The Hardcore Kid 00:01, September 29, 2016 (UTC) Those spinning blades might not be very effective but we all know how fragile Napalm was, Run Away will be running away with the victory (on a judge's decision).--Nononsensecapeesh (talk) 11:32, September 29, 2016 (UTC) Abandoned vote My gut just can't put Napalm through against a wedge with a spinner, even if its Run Away. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 13:42, September 28, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Napalm 2 Y'know, with all due respect to Napalm, it was at least resilient for the most part. Run Away was just not designed to compete in Robot Wars and I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it got overturned on Napalm's hull. CrashBash (talk) 10:15, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Napalm was at least somewhat reliable. I can't say the same for Run Away. Napalm might even topple over Run Away and win. --Demon Of Tomorrow 10:58, September 28, 2016 (UTC) I said before, I think Napalm's victory over Robopig is underhailed, and Run Away has nice big wheels to repeat the feat. I see an outcome like Crash predicted. GutripperSpeak 13:49, September 28, 2016 (UTC) I have to dispute this argument, since Robopig heavily contributed to its own demise by driving up Napalm's wedge. I find it hard to believe that an obstacle-course champion would make the same ramp-based mistake as a first-time team did. RA2; aka Resetti's Replicas. (My Talk) 18:27, September 29, 2016 (UTC) Y'see, I would agree with you, were it not the fact that Run Away did make that same ramp-based mistake, against a robot with a much steeper wedge that realistically shouldn't have overturned anything. CrashBash (talk) 20:32, September 29, 2016 (UTC) Thanks Crash, I'm glad you're on top of it! GutripperSpeak 22:35, September 29, 2016 (UTC) Certainly a push and shove match, and I think Napalm will actually be better at doing this, and also believe Run Away can be turned over. Raz3r(talk) 15:09, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Given what happened to Robopig, I wouldn’t be surprised if Run Away ran up Napalm’s plough and toppled over at some point even after pushing Napalm around and dominating the early part of the battle... VulcansHowl (talk) 15:23, September 28, 2016 (UTC) It took me far too long to find out what a Grammar School is, I don't think Team Napalm should be proudly displaying one as their team name. Regardless, the much sturdier Napalm 2 can fit its nose cone in-between the wheels of Run Away, which will also try to run its spinner into said nose cone, and the forces coming from every angle may eventually jar the chassis until Run Away can't run away freely. Or it can at least be pushed into a CPZ. I think Napalm could beat Run Away's ground clearance at the front too, the mandibles might even come into effect. ToastUltimatum 18:30, September 28, 2016 (UTC) I've changed my mind after reading Gutripper's argument. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 22:43, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Y'know, regardless of what you may think of David Crosby's Engineering Skills or the teams driving ability, They've always somehow made their robot somewhat durable, and they've always somehow made it to at least the second round in the main competition, so give Napalm at least some credit. And I feel Napalm 2 could indeed get underneath Run Away. Like they did with Robopig and tip them over. TKK3nta (talk) 01:35, September 29, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Napalm 2 (8-8) (0-2 Judges' Decision)

Attila the Drum vs √3

Attila the Drum	√3
Votes for Attila the Drum Inaccurate maybe, but with Worteldreikwadraat being unable to do anything productive, and Attila at least trying to land hits, I wouldn't be surprised if Attila went through on pure flashiness. It's happened before. And besides, if one blow does hit, it will cause damage, no question. CrashBash (talk) 10:17, September 28, 2016 (UTC) This is definitely awkward. Attila can't do anything here, but neither will √3. I think that Attila will at least be able to do something by swinging around its mace, while all √3 can do is just awkwardly nudge Attila around the arena. It'll be a judges' decision, where Attila will at least get a win on aggression. --Demon Of Tomorrow 11:00, September 28, 2016 (UTC) I feel like AtH will be too awkward of a shape for √3 and AtH is very aggressive when it sits and spins.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 13:31, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Atilla was rammed around by King B3 who had four wheel drive and weighed 80kg. I don't know how a 33kg robot will manage that, and in order for 2-3 to team up, Atilla would pretty much need to be standing still. I think that the mace has it. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 13:44, September 28, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for √3 Neither Attila nor Worteldreikwadraat will probably be able to do anything to each other here. The parts of √3 are too low for the mace to do anything, or the axe is too inaccurate. But the three minis will struggle to get any kind of pushing purchase on Attila. I think √3 will get the vote by at least attempting to push Attila around. Jimlaad43(talk) 11:00, September 28, 2016 (UTC) I believe that √3 could possibly push Attila the Drum around. Remember that Attila the Drum was not the best controlled in its battles, which the trio could possibly exploit with their quicker speed and wedges. Also, I am pretty sure that Attila the Drum was prone to fire, so maybe the clusters could direct the axlebot to the flame pit too, if it is lucky. Judges' decision will be close, but √3 just edges out. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 11:35, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Elevation got some lift on Pika 3 from the battle I just watched, and that's enough to show aggression pushing Atilla around. But the clincher for me is how impossible it would be for Atilla to hit any part of V3. They're small, fast and Atilla has shocking aim. V3 wins on control and aggression absolutely. GutripperSpeak 13:50, September 28, 2016 (UTC) It will be a grind, but √3 as a whole should be able to combine to eventually force Attila the Drum into dangerous areas of the arena, whereas Attila really can't offer much bar spinning around. √3 to win on a judges by controlling as much of the battle as possible. Nweston8 (talk) 14:28, September 28, 2016 (UTC) √3 should be more aggressive in my mind. While Attila will cause the damage, I feel like they will be exposed if they ever stop spinning, which they will need to do to get around the arena to beat a nippy machine (or rather, machines) like √3. Raz3r(talk) 15:16, September 28, 2016 (UTC) As much as I love √3, I can’t see the three clusterbots having too much luck trying to push and flip Attila the Drum around, and Attila might be able to cause substantial damage with the flail. But, the three parts of √3 might still gang up on Attila the Drum and capitalise on its driving issues, cornering Attila into a CPZ where it struggles to get out and is left it to the mercy of the House Robots. √3 to win on control… VulcansHowl (talk) 15:23, September 28, 2016 (UTC) V3 did get some purchase on Pila when they worked together. If it were Stinger, it would have the advantage, but Atilla has a large barrel shaped body for them to get under, and a choice between a hard-to-aim pickaxe and a flail that rides over the small bots. No wayfor it to win. RA2; aka Resetti's Replicas. (My Talk) 16:45, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Well, this should be an interesting fight one way or another. √3 should somehow be able gang up on Attila, and control it decently via minor flips, and hopefully not take too much damage. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:42, September 28, 2016 (UTC) I'm going for the robot that was a better Top Gear reference than the entirety of Series 1. Atilla's ground clearance and shape would make it hard for some robots to gain a purchase, but not √3, which can quietly fit underneath. If they can push Pika III, a 99kg rambot, they can push Attila easily, and it's not like they'll take punishment in return. Heck, if Attila used its spin on the spot routine, √3 would probably go straight under it. ToastUltimatum 18:30, September 28, 2016 (UTC) I have a feeling if √3 was a bit bigger, than I'd give this to Attila. Attila have proved themselves in the Southern Annilitator to be a quite deadly when they are given the chance. But √3 is to small for Attila to get a critical hit on them and I can see √3 push Attila around. TKK3nta (talk) 01:39, September 29, 2016 (UTC) 3 on one, all too much for Attila The Drum, the Dutch trio win this round.--Nononsensecapeesh (talk) 11:34, September 29, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: √3 (4-11)

frenZy vs Pulsar

frenZy	Pulsar
Votes for frenZy I think Pulsar is quite cool, but it was the robot I was most disappointed by. In nearly all of its fights, it suffered drive issues that I am simply unable to overlook. With frenzy, its hammer is certainly unwieldy and while Pulsar is such a small thing for its weight, Pulsar's reliability problems cannot be overlooked, and when you have issues or flat-out breakdowns in 4 of 5 fights, there is a severe problem. frenzy's hammer is quite powerful, and after some blows, I feel like the drive of Pulsar will break again and Pulsar will get knocked out. --Demon Of Tomorrow 11:04, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Going for the surprise here, considering Pulsar is more modern and an excellent machine. The problem here is that Pulsar was not the most reliable, and it seemed to stop working within multiple battles (like the Gabriel heat final), due to its drives. I suspect an hammer blow from the deadly frenZy could cause all sorts of havoc to the drives, especially if it hits the wheels itself. Close, as I can understand the opposition, but I think frenZy can cause Pulsar to break down. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 11:40, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Tough one but after watch the Gabriel fight again I really don't think Pulsar can last after a hit or two. frenZy may get attacked by the drum blade but as soon as it gets its axe in, it's won after all Pulsar's reliability will be its downfall.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 13:34, September 28, 2016 (UTC) A hit on Pulsar's wheel and that might just be the end of it. Just too unreliable for me. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 13:45, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Now this is tough. Pulsar wasn’t the most reliable 2016 series competitor, constantly losing drive to one side or cutting out at some point throughout its battles. It can exploit FrenZy’s ground clearance and flip it with the drum, possibly tearing into its underside in the process, but FrenZy has a much more reliable srimech than Ironside3 and will end up pounding Pulsar’s drive system until it breaks down for good. Pulsar didn’t last too long against Thor and Shunt, so FrenZy to send Pulsar spinning into a black hole… VulcansHowl (talk) 15:23, September 28, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Pulsar Interesting matchup this, as I know frenZy is quite highly rated here, but against Pulsar it has no chance. The axe may be quite powerful, but it is not going to have a hope of hitting Pulsar. The head is a long way away from the body, and Pulsar is too maneuverable to be hit. Pulsar just needs to get close and the 9000rpm blade (which I think is too fast, but I'll touch on that in further fights with Pulsar) will shred the sides of frenZy with ease. Jimlaad43(talk) 10:11, September 28, 2016 (UTC) When i said "highly" I meant "over". Look at how fast Pulsar was when it moved, frenZy will not be close enough to fie the axe, and it was severely inaccurate, so while Pulsar is sat still, frenZy is going to need a lot of luck to get it in the right place to hit. Plus the sides are woefully armoured, and Pulsar will easily tear it apart. Jimlaad43(talk) 13:55, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Y'know, I could rag on about Pulsar's reliability issues, but it's small and compact, not ideal for frenZy to hit, and it could easily take out one of frenZy's wheels. Of course, just one blow would cripple it, but I think that 7/10 times it'd be more likely for Pulsar to land the crippling blow. Remember, everyone, frenZy made it to the top 16 last time, so this is already a major upset. CrashBash (talk) 10:19, September 28, 2016 (UTC) One hit could call it for Frenzy, yes, but Pulsar is far more likely to get the hits and we saw with Ironside 3 that they keep the pressure on when you've gone over. Frenzy was a better self-righter than Ironside 3, but I just don't think that Frenzy axe hit outcome is plausible. GutripperSpeak 13:52, September 28, 2016 (UTC) frenZy may be powerful, but its not always driven as precisely as what would be required in a battle like this. frenZy's general 'slam anything in sight' technique would need to be altered and be more controlled, but I don't think it's capable of that while remaining effective. Pulsar's weapon is also far too potent. Nweston8 (talk) 14:28, September 28, 2016 (UTC) If Pulsar can rush Frenzy and stay on it, Frenzy won't be able to reach it with that long arm. We know it doesn't like being flipped. RA2; aka Resetti's Replicas. (My Talk) 14:43, September 28, 2016 (UTC) I don't like playing the reliability card, especially so early on in a competition on a powerful machine, otherwise you could say that Pulsar might lose to machines like Bodyhammer, Chopper or Sir Chromalot every time. If Pulsar functions properly, it will cause huge damage to frenZy's underside and it is too small for that huge hammer to get a good hit. I'm not sure if it would even reach Pulsar. Pulsar would win on at least damage and aggression, if not control too, if it works at maximum efficiency. Raz3r(talk) 15:26, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Despite its reliability issues, Pulsar's spinner has the advantage over frenZy's axe, which, being quite long, will be hard to aim at Pulsar. Plus, that ground clearance is perfect for Pulsar to slip under and attack. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:44, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Sorry guys, but I don't intend to eliminate a 2016 Grand Finalist in the qualifiers. It's too hard to hit, and frenZy's armour, including the all-important baseplate, is very thin. Pulsar could probably KO it within 30 seconds, or at least before taking a blow. Nine-thousand revolutions per minute. Ellis Ware, next time make it spin at 9001rpm! ToastUltimatum 18:30, September 28, 2016 (UTC) What, and make him the subject of memes? CrashBash (talk) 19:00, September 28, 2016 (UTC) If Pulsar was a bit longer, than maybe FrenZy would have a chance. But Pulsar will be out of FrenZy's range the entire fight. And think Pulsar would be at least reliable enough to win this fight TKK3nta (talk) 01:42, September 29, 2016 (UTC) Reliable or not, look at the size of Pulsar, the American bot would have an even harder time trying hit it as it did trying to hit Overkill and a 20 year old bot against a 2016 standard one, I'd like to say a walkover for Pulsar but I say Pulsar wins on damage.--Nononsensecapeesh (talk) 11:38, September 29, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Pulsar (5-10)

Miss Struts vs Robot the Bruce

Miss Struts	Robot the Bruce
Votes for Miss Struts	Votes for Robot the Bruce Miss Struts was OK for an early walker, but Robot the Bruce was a great pusher, and will at least move well and attack. Jimlaad43(talk) 10:11, September 28, 2016 (UTC) There's not going to be much for Robot to actually push, really. But at least it'll be trying. CrashBash (talk) 10:20, September 28, 2016 (UTC) What a boring battle. At least Robot the Bruce can bump Miss Struts around and then get attacked by the house robots then pit Miss Struts. --Demon Of Tomorrow 11:05, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Unusual fight here, but Robot the Bruce will just keep slamming into its opponent to win. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 11:40, September 28, 2016 (UTC) TIMBERRRRRR!!!Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 13:35, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Ram. GutripperSpeak 13:52, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Robot the Bruce to repeatedly ram the legs of Miss Struts to take a unique battle. Nweston8 (talk) 14:28, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Robot the Bruce will simply use its brute force to ram Miss Struts’ legs until they break or it knocks Miss Struts over and out. Not the most spectacular match-up, I admit, but I can’t see Miss Struts lasting long here. VulcansHowl (talk) 15:23, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Robot the Bruce goes marching on. Not exactly thrilling, mind you. Raz3r(talk) 15:28, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Robot the Bruce won't be able to push Miss Struts around very well, but can at least launch meaningful attacks. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:45, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Miss Struts beat the single biggest free-win in the whole of Ragnabot - even theoretically, Stomp can't move. Hopefully the undefeated walker will put up a good show, but it just can't earn points. ToastUltimatum 18:30, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Eh, this battle... Did someone put this in slow motion? At least Robot the Bruce could win this on aggression by ramming into the legs of Miss Strut. TKK3nta (talk) 01:44, September 29, 2016 (UTC) Miss Struts just struts her stuff straight into the oncoming unstoppable force that is Robot The Bruce. If it tried hard enough, RTB could ram Miss Struts right over but whatever happens, RTB wins.--Nononsensecapeesh (talk) 11:41, September 29, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Robot the Bruce (0-13)

Trouble 'n' Strife vs Atomic

Trouble 'n' Strife	Atomic
Votes for Trouble 'n' Strife I'm going to vote for Trouble 'n' Strife because a) it deserves at least one vote in a wipeout decision, and b) I see Atomic's weakness to spinners and prepare to hold up the plausibility of an Atomic malfunction. GutripperSpeak 13:54, September 28, 2016 (UTC) It only lost to Typhoon 2 because it flipped itself over, Atomic was the only robot apart from Bigger Brother that came close to defeating Typhoon 2 by flipping it. Jimlaad43(talk) 13:56, September 28, 2016 (UTC) I know. GutripperSpeak 14:02, September 28, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Atomic OotA? I'm thinking OotA. Jimlaad43(talk) 10:11, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Remind me, Atomic came 6th last time, right? It'll have no issues here, methinks. Pretty sure Trouble can't self-right. CrashBash (talk) 10:21, September 28, 2016 (UTC)0 Hopefully ROTAS or M.R Speed Squared will do better. --Demon Of Tomorrow 11:06, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Disappointing, because Trouble 'n' Strife is a good robot, but just like in its only battle, is facing one that is even better than it. It will be flipped over, whereby Atomic will then attempt an OotA on it. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 11:48, September 28, 2016 (UTC) And out of here!Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 13:36, September 28, 2016 (UTC) The perfect type of robot for Atomic to run at, scoop up and thrust out. Trouble 'n' Strife is a robot with good weaponry, but you need much more than that to even attempt to compete with Atomic; especially speed and manoeuvrability - something Trouble 'n' Strife doesn't offer. Nweston8 (talk) 14:28, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Poor Trouble ‘n Strife doesn’t seem to have much luck in Round 1, does it? The Series 7 version Atomic was much more resilient against spinners, so there’s a chance that it might flip Trouble ‘n Strife around and over the wall after a close fight to begin with. VulcansHowl (talk) 15:23, September 28, 2016 (UTC) I'd be surprised if any pre-2016 machine went further than Atomic to be honest. Unless it gets a bad draw of course. That does happen. Raz3r(talk) 15:30, September 28, 2016 (UTC) If Atomic can attack Typhoon 2 before it can spin up properly, it can surely do the same here against the (admittedly underrated) rear spinner of Trouble 'n' Strife. Plus, despite ultimately getting trashed, it did manage to flip Hypno-Disc, which, unlike the opponent here, could self right. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:47, September 28, 2016 (UTC) No, I don't think Atomic will flip Trouble 'n' Strife out of the arena. I don't think it will flip ANYTHING out of the arena. Robots like Hellbent and Terror Turtle only just went over the wall because of the height of Atomic's flipper, those trench walls are much bigger. I think Atomic probably suffers the biggest disadvantage from the arena change. ToastUltimatum 18:30, September 28, 2016 (UTC) To be honest, Trouble 'n' Strife is no Typhoon 2 and I don't see Trouble 'n' Strife's Weapons worrying Atomic, and I can see a clean OOTA TKK3nta (talk) 01:46, September 29, 2016 (UTC) The Series 7 version of Atomic? Err...it wins...by...oota? Yes, of course it does! No contest!--Nononsensecapeesh (talk) 11:43, September 29, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Atomic (1-12)

Roadblock vs El-Mower

Roadblock	El-Mower
Votes for Roadblock El-Mower will get tipped over. Jimlaad43(talk) 10:11, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Well, this is gonna be kinda dull. I'd be more tempted to go for the more modern robot were it not for the fact its weapon wasn't that good and it wasn't exactly the most spritly if I remember correctly. Either way, I'm more tempted to stick with the old guns and have Roadblock either eventually topple it or just use its saw more effectively. CrashBash (talk) 10:24, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Road Block looks a whole lot better to me, and it will manage a victory on aggression over El-Mower, who wasn't the fastest. --Demon Of Tomorrow 11:07, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Tough one here, as I believe El-Mower's blade is more aggressive than Roadblock's. But there is a problem; El-Mower seems to cut out throughout its battles, thus allowing Roadblock opportunities to control the battle. Also, El-Mower is top-heavy, so I suspect the wedge will topple it eventually. By the way, has anyone seen this Sesame Street skit before? It is very unique in my opinion. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 12:09, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Boring match up, Roadblock will tip it over.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 13:36, September 28, 2016 (UTC) I avoid voting in battles which are going to be overwhelmingly one sided, but Roadblock is going to win and I like that, especially after we already lost Beast of Bodmin. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 13:46, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Roadblock wins with the classic wedge. GutripperSpeak 13:54, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Roadblock is driven really well, and certainly well enough to be able to topple El-Mower at some point. Nweston8 (talk) 14:28, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Sesame Street was brought to you today by the number 0, which is Elmo's chances of winning. RA2; aka Resetti's Replicas. (My Talk) 14:51, September 28, 2016 (UTC) C is for certain Roadblock victory. VulcansHowl (talk) 15:23, September 28, 2016 (UTC) When a top heavy machine with no srimech faces a wedge-shaped robot, you know there can only really be one winner... Raz3r(talk) 15:34, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Yeah, Roadblock should be able to get underneath and topple here. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:48, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Roadblock was well driven. And I feel Roadblock would be able to tip El-Mower on it's side, like it able to do to Robot The Bruce. TKK3nta (talk) 02:07, September 29, 2016 (UTC) Just driving over Roadblock's wedge can spell the end for its opponents (Onslaught anyone?) and this, I am sorry to say, will eventually happen to El-Mower.--Nononsensecapeesh (talk) 11:45, September 29, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for El-Mower No, this vote is not a joke, I'm confident in it. You all seem to see it being toppled, but I question that logic. Roadblock is not as steep as you give it credit for, Killertron would not have gone over without assistance. El-Mower's wheels are totally exposed at the back, therefore if Roadblock slips under the front, El-Mower will simply drive off. It's also too slow to get around the sides effectively. So with Roadblock unable to flip, and struggling to win via the pit due to its much slower speed, I see no way forward for them. In comparison, El-Mower (which did win a battle, for those of you who have yet to watch the Dutch Wars), can quickly dart to the side of Roadblock and whack it with its spinning blade. Sesame Street will not be closed today, drive on as usual. ToastUltimatum 18:30, September 28, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Roadblock (14-1)

Techno-Lease vs Scar

Techno-Lease	Scar
Votes for Techno-Lease Who cares if I own Scar's weapon motor, I have something better now, heh heh ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ToastUltimatum 18:30, September 28, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Scar I think Scar might be able to put damage in the sides of Techno-Lease and win. Jimlaad43(talk) 10:11, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Techno-Lease has the better pushing power, but Scar has a decent looking weapon and probably isn't ideal to push. Benefit of the doubt. CrashBash (talk) 10:25, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Scar will at least deal a whole lot more damage to Techno-Lease than the other way around. --Demon Of Tomorrow 11:08, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Techno-Lease's armour to me is a bit flimsy, so I believe the blade of Scar could cause some decent damage, enough to cause it to break down. I believe a certain person here is pleased with this draw. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 11:51, September 28, 2016 (UTC) The blade will cause the damage and secure a win for it.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 13:37, September 28, 2016 (UTC) If it were almost literally anyone else, I'd vote against Scar. But its Techno Lease. GutripperSpeak 13:55, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Scar's weapon is hardly the most potent but Techno-Lease's armour looks incredibly fragile. Even if Scar doesn't penetrate much, it should be able to cause some gashes and dents for the judges to award it the victory, ala Hypno-Disc vs Berserk 2. Nweston8 (talk) 14:28, September 28, 2016 (UTC) We never saw much of Scar’s discs, but it looked manoeuvrable enough in Series 4, and should be able to cause reasonable damage to Techno-Lease’s shell. VulcansHowl (talk) 15:23, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Scar's weapon actually looked quite good, for all the good it did it in Series 4 with that sort of luck. Should be a comfortable win. Raz3r(talk) 15:36, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Battle of the meh spinners; I'd say Scar's is more likely to inflict meaningful damage, though Techno-Lease would win a sumo match between these two. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:49, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Ah, Techno-Lease, gleaming and shiny and looks good enough for Scar to inflict damage on. TKK3nta (talk) 02:10, September 29, 2016 (UTC) Scar on a judge's decision.--Nononsensecapeesh (talk) 11:46, September 29, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Scar (1-12)

Abaddon vs Niterider

Abaddon	Niterider
Votes for Abaddon Whilst neither robot is that impressive, I'd argue at least Abaddon had better mobility. Niterider kinda just died after being breathed on. The possibility of a fluke aside, I think that Abaddon would be nigh impossible to push, so Abaddon would show aggression points, and maybe even knock off the aerial...maybe. CrashBash (talk) 10:26, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Abbadon was at least somewhat okay. Nite Rider was just flawed. Those threshing blades of Abbadon are going to do a whole lot more than the drill and Nite Rider is already a breakdown train... --Demon Of Tomorrow 11:10, September 28, 2016 (UTC) I won't give Niterider the benefit of the doubt, you lose a lot of respect when Maximus is slightly less dead than your robot. Abaddon survived until a Judges' decision, only losing control after its drive chain was forcefully removed, and that's enough survivability for me. ToastUltimatum 18:30, September 28, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Niterider Oof, two shockers here, but Niterider does at least have a wedge to get under Abaddon. Jimlaad43(talk) 10:11, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Tricky battle here, as I do not rate either robot. Nonetheless, I am going to assume that the drive Niterider lost at the start was a fluke, similar to Plunderstorm stalling. As for the battle itself, Abaddon was forced to use a caster wheel in place of a bowling ball for control, which was easy to break. I suspect that Niterider could slam Abaddon around to the point where the caster gets disloged again. After that happens, Niterider should dominate, unless it suffers another malfunction. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 12:13, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Tough one, but I think Niterider will ram Abaddon to oblivion.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 13:38, September 28, 2016 (UTC) I am voting for Niterider just because I know what it is, and it looks like it knows what it is. I can't say the same for Abaddon. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 13:47, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Niterider has a spear and Abaddon has exposed tires and a bizarre distribution of weight. GutripperSpeak 13:55, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Niterider had trouble from the off with its right hand side, so I'll try to give it the benefit of the doubt as apposed to it being a chronic problem. As a general fighter, Niterider offers more basic requirements to win the battle than Abaddon does. Nweston8 (talk) 14:28, September 28, 2016 (UTC) To be honest, I have no idea which of these two looked more combat-worthy. Abaddon was mobile, but had a terrible spinning weapon and horrible control issues, while Niterider didn’t even move much in its New Blood Championship battle despite having a solid-looking design. But, like Nweston8, I’m going to assume that Niterider’s drive issues won’t happen here, and that it will take advantage of Abaddon’s poor control to steer it around the arena and into the pit. VulcansHowl (talk) 15:23, September 28, 2016 (UTC) I'm going to try and be as consistent as possible with my reliability card across this ragnabot from now on and, like the Pulsar battle, vote on the belief that there will be no issue. Its weapon could puncture an Abaddon wheel if it is lucky. Raz3r(talk) 15:38, September 28, 2016 (UTC) As much as I'd love to see Abaddon in the tournament proper, those wheels are just perfect for the drill flails to hack away at, and I'm not convinced the blades will do anything of note. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:51, September 28, 2016 (UTC) Yea I can see Niterider being reliable enough, like Pulsar to win this battle. And I can see it targeting the wheels of Abaddon. TKK3nta (talk) 02:11, September 29, 2016 (UTC) Niterider looks relatively low enough to avoid taking much damage from the rotivator blades, the disemboweler won't be able to do much but Niterider will overpower and ram Abaddon around the Arena to win on Aggression.--Nononsensecapeesh (talk) 11:49, September 29, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Niterider (3-11)

St. Agro vs The Green Mouse

St. Agro	The Green Mouse
Votes for St. Agro Loanerbot vs Decent Series 7 Semi-Finalist? The mouse will be exterminated. Jimlaad43(talk) 08:30, September 30, 2016 (UTC) The end of The Green Mouse, seeing high enough for St Agro to get under and have his way with this match. One flip and The Green Mouse would be out TKK3nta (talk) 11:09, September 30, 2016 (UTC) I'm more partial to the Squirmin Vermin variant, I want to see if I have a case for a page rename. ToastUltimatum 11:16, September 30, 2016 (UTC) A few flips will do it.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 11:26, September 30, 2016 (UTC) St Agro can flip The Green Mouse however it wants, and if it gets it over, it's dead. Conversely, by its own flawed design, The Green Mouse will never be able to flip St Agro. CrashBash (talk) 13:02, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Easy win for St. Agro. If they don't face a good spinner, they could be ones to watch in this Ragnabot. I hope Maelstrom appears on the next series, that's for sure. Raz3r(talk) 14:26, September 30, 2016 (UTC) I agree with all the points The R A Z 3R has said. Plus, isn't it true that The Green Mouse cannot flip anything due to it having no baseplate? I am sure I heard this from someone. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:42, September 30, 2016 (UTC) It has absolutely no baseplate under its flipper, which in and of itself takes up more than half its body. If it were to try and flip anything, it would literally just raise its body up in the air. And it did. CrashBash (talk) 16:39, September 30, 2016 (UTC) St. Agro, the patron Saint of robots and the exterminator of Green Mouse.--Nononsensecapeesh (talk) 17:20, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Do you think we should get the, um, pest control people in? Hogwild94 (talk) 17:58, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Fairly simple. GutripperSpeak 23:19, September 30, 2016 (UTC) By all means, Hogwild. There’s no way that The Green Mouse can survive this without being flipped onto its back by St. Agro, and eventually being pitted. VulcansHowl (talk) 10:11, October 1, 2016 (UTC) A simple warm-up routine for St. Agro to start off its Ragnabot 2 campaign. Nweston8 (talk) 12:30, October 1, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for The Green Mouse
Winner: St. Agro (12-0)

Nasty Humphrey vs Executioner/Evo 2

Nasty Humphrey	Executioner/Evo 2
Votes for Nasty Humphrey What exactly is The Executioner's disc meant to hit? Nasty Humphrey may be many things but poorly armoured isn't one of them. It is at least well armoured enough for The Executioner. Also to be considered is that The Executioner is quite poorly driven, driving into the pit in Extreme 1 and almost doing the same in Series 7. I believe Nasty Humphrey could win this on pushing power. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 23:03, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Considering it managed to hit (and tear off, but that's beside the point) Topbot's disc, whilst the latter was upside down, I think that speaks volumes as to what The Executioner can hit. If it can hit a narrow, low-to-the-ground disc, it can hit anything on Nasty Humphrey. CrashBash (talk) 06:31, October 1, 2016 (UTC) Topbots disc was vulnerable. Nasty Humphrey doesn't have a disc. Nasty Humphrey doesn't have anything vulnerable like that. GutripperSpeak 07:44, October 1, 2016 (UTC) The issue here is ground clearance, not vulnerability. If Executioner could hit Topbot's disc, it can hit Nasty Humphrey. CrashBash (talk) 07:53, October 1, 2016 (UTC) Hit? Probably - if it gets under Nasty Humphrey. Damage? I doubt it. If weapons like Carbide stop on impact you can bet Executioners will. GutripperSpeak 08:42, October 1, 2016 (UTC) I also feel that people are putting too much faith in The Executioner. The only way for it to damage is to get under Nasty Humphrey - if Nasty Humphrey gets at The Executioner from any side then it has no answer. GutripperSpeak 23:19, September 30, 2016 (UTC) The Series 7 Executioner proved destructive even without the disc, decapitating Topbot early on in its first-round battle, so it should be able to lop off Nasty Humphrey’s axe blade at some point. But, I do worry about its speed controllers going in the late stages as they did in Series 7, so Nasty Humphrey to go through after surviving numerous attacks from The Executioner’s disc/blade/whatever it will use here. VulcansHowl (talk) 10:11, October 1, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Executioner/Evo 2 As the team called it this, that's the name for this version. Neither robot was overly successful, but I trusted the disc more than the axe, so I think Executioner/Evo 2 will carve enough of a dent to score some points. Jimlaad43(talk) 08:30, September 30, 2016 (UTC) I can't see that axe of Nasty Humphrey doing much to Executioner's armour. Executioner looks like it could do some damage to the armour of Humphrey and I think The Executioner will win TKK3nta (talk) 11:12, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Damn that Challange quality looks good. ToastUltimatum 11:27, September 30, 2016 (UTC) The blade wasn't half bad compared to the axe of Nasty Humphrey.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 11:30, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Provided it doesn't conk out, I think The Executioner has the advantage here. CrashBash (talk) 13:03, September 30, 2016 (UTC) The Executioner's weapon wasn't actually that bad. I can't say the same for Nasty Humphrey's. Raz3r(talk) 14:28, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Nearly voted Nasty Humphrey's way, as I thought the axe could puncture the tyres of its opponent. Ultimately however, The Executioner's disc was something to fear, and I feel it could damage the baseplate and flip Nasty Humphrey around. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 16:52, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Nasty Humphrey may be better than its predecessor but then the Series 7 Executioner is even better.--Nononsensecapeesh (talk) 17:22, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Both Executioners would beat either Humphrey IMO. I take it we'll be seeing the other two as well? Hogwild94 (talk) 17:59, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Just series 5 Executioner, Humphrey was his without the axe. Jimlaad43(talk) 18:51, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Executioner is a good robot, and this one is capable of causing a good amount of damage. I can't see Humphrey racking up many points. Nweston8 (talk) 12:30, October 1, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Executioner/Evo 2 (3-10)

Sabretooth vs Cyclone-Raptor

Sabretooth	Cyclone-Raptor
Votes for Sabretooth Would you believe Cyclone's disc only spins at 700rpm? It doesn't sound so impressive now. Sabretooth has all of the advantages, the front scoop will withstand Cyclone, stop its disc, and then the drum will come into play and bend it so it doesn't work. Sabretooth's weapon also has the potential to attack Cyclone's tracks, or rip out its vulnerable link. Don't underestimate the power of a 2016 drum. I at least know Madlooney will agree with me. ToastUltimatum 11:14, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Except, as I explained to you with my voting Supernova over Sabretooth, the scoop and drum are not on the same side. It can't magically pull the drum over to the scoop side...it'll have to stop the disc with the scoop, and then turn around to use the drum. In doing so, it risks exposing its sides, which Cyclone can give a good whack. CrashBash (talk) 13:07, September 30, 2016 (UTC) My explanation didn't have to be a single maneuver. Sabretooth would have the advantage on either of its ends, so I put both to use. You can try all you want to lower my opinion of Sabretooth but unless we see it do badly in a future series, I will maintain my high opinion of an unlucky but very capable robot. ToastUltimatum 14:06, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Yes, and the last time I did that (assumed a robot would be very capable), we got 259. And then Foxic. And technically Project One. Therefore you'll have to accept my apologies that I don't automatically assume Sabretooth is robot-Jesus. CrashBash (talk) 14:39, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Sabretooth did nothing to discredit its abilities, though, so I think I'm being fair. ToastUltimatum 17:11, September 30, 2016 (UTC) I was close to voting Cyclone but after reading Toast's point, I totally agree. Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 11:31, September 30, 2016 (UTC) I don't think Cyclone knocked out any bot close to the power of Sabre Tooth. I take nopleasure in losing Cyclone in Round 1, but a bot like that can't turn fast enough to protect its vulnerable side and rear, plus there's the reliability factor. RA2; aka Resetti's Replicas. (My Talk) 13:27, September 30, 2016 (UTC) This is the most difficult decision so far for me. What swayed it towards Sabretooth for me is that, as Toast said, that disc is only 700 RPM, which is, of course, enough to fling old robots over and OotA, but the walls are higher and the armour has become stronger, and I think Sabretooth would have more trouble with flippers than discs in this arena. Raz3r(talk) 15:03, September 30, 2016 (UTC) I think that this battle will be decided in the first blow from either opponent, as Cyclone-Raptor could flip its opponent over, but break down from the power of Sabretooth's drum. Ultimately, I suspect that Sabretooth could maneuver itself to Cyclone-Raptor's sides and cause some severe damage, possibly even toppling the glass cannon. Indeed, these shocks could remove the safety switch again, as proven against Probophobia. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 16:08, September 30, 2016 (UTC) As much as I like vertical spinners, I think 2016-standard Sabre Tooth will be too tough for Cyclone Raptor. Plus, it looks relatively low and vertical spinners' track record against low pronounced Bots is not exactly a good one.--Nononsensecapeesh (talk) 17:26, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Skillful driving will see Sabretooth shred Cyclone’s tracks with the drum. If not, it may be possible for Sabretooth to knock Cyclone’s link out after a few shoves with the scoop… after all, Probophobia did it in one charge in Extreme Warriors Season 2. VulcansHowl (talk) 10:11, October 1, 2016 (UTC) Sabretooth managed to stay active and cause something as nimble and well driven as Eruption some difficulty for a good part of the battle before being flipped. Cyclone-Raptor offers power, but the control and general well-rounded capabilities of Sabretooth will mean it takes this. Nweston8 (talk) 12:30, October 1, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Cyclone-Raptor Sabretooth is made of tough stuff, but Cyclone showed itself to be very competent at flipping opponents with its disc, something which will put Sabretooth at a disadvantage. Jimlaad43(talk) 08:30, September 30, 2016 (UTC) I can see Cyclone getting on the side of Sabretooth and causing some damage and probably the wheels.TKK3nta (talk) 11:14, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Sabretooth looks like a better version of Brute or Termite, but both of those lost to Cyclone, so that really isn't saying much. I can see one whack knocking Sabretooth over and this in turn risks damaging the srimech, if it isn't already broken. Not to mention, I can't even begin to see how Sabretooth's srimech would even work. CrashBash (talk) 13:07, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Sorry, but Sabretooth just looks too big a target for the vertical spinner to get a good hit on and rip something loose. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:01, September 30, 2016 (UTC) I don't really care how fast the disc spins, I care about the results, and I saw Cyclone handle opponents pretty handily. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 23:04, September 30, 2016 (UTC) I'm really tempted to go Sabretooth, but I can't back a srimechless robot against a powerful flywheel. Like I've always said, it comes down to the hypothetical and for Sabretooth to win I need to be convinced that Cyclone won't have any chance of getting just one hit in that could turn it over. I don't buy it. GutripperSpeak 23:19, September 30, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Sabretooth (8-6)

Twn Trwn vs Rat

Twn Trwn	Rat
Votes for Twn Trwn	Votes for Rat Twn Trwn never really did anything apart from looking like it deserved a good mark as an art project. Rat with ease. Jimlaad43(talk) 08:30, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Twn Trwn died in one hit from Trident, So I think Rat will just need to ram it once to beat Twn Trwn TKK3nta (talk) 11:15, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Just like the Thunderbirds reboot, Twn Trwn was overcomplicated with no resl substance. Rat's all, folks. ToastUltimatum 11:24, September 30, 2016 (UTC) At least one Rat will get past round one, hopefully the other rat does as well...Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 11:32, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Well, this is kinda obvious. CrashBash (talk) 13:09, September 30, 2016 (UTC) While the mice are being beaten, the rat will scuttle on here. Raz3r(talk) 14:53, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Twn Twrn was a visually entertaining robot, so that is how it qualified in my opinion. Rat to dominate this. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:44, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Oh Rats, the Broken Ring is being shove around and torn apart by a Dutch robotic rodent, well I am sorry but that's what will happen.--Nononsensecapeesh (talk) 17:31, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Sorry, can't think of anything to say about this one. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:02, September 30, 2016 (UTC) What's to be said? GutripperSpeak 23:19, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Rat should use its flipping snout to lift and rip parts of Twn Trwn’s shell off. No doubt International Rescue will have to be called to Twn Trwn’s aid again... VulcansHowl (talk) 10:11, October 1, 2016 (UTC) An easy start for Rat. It can do as it pleases. Nweston8 (talk) 12:30, October 1, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Rat (0-12)

Pain vs Cedric Slammer

Pain	Cedric Slammer
Votes for Pain	Votes for Cedric Slammer The inability to run away will make this even more painful, as Cedric will have great fun shredding the sides of Pain up. Jimlaad43(talk) 08:30, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Pain looks like it will move very slow, the Robot is big and bulky and lacks a lot of defence. Cedric Slammer have fun with Pain's armour TKK3nta (talk) 11:19, September 30, 2016 (UTC) I get very technical about usinh official team names, from Thermidor II to 13Black... do I have to call this thing PaiN? ToastUltimatum 11:25, September 30, 2016 (UTC) A powerful blade against a robot that didn't move an inch...You make your guess.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 11:33, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Pain looks like it'd be very cumbersome. I'm assuming that it was actually dragged into the arena for the Series 2 intro reel, so obviously that's not a fair judge, but even so...Cedric's disc looks like it'd be perfect for knocking it up and over. CrashBash (talk) 13:11, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Pain? Ironic, isn't it? There's only one direction the pain will be going. Raz3r(talk) 14:37, September 30, 2016 (UTC) To be fair, Pain's weapon does look to be quite dangerous, and it is unfair to judge it in a negative light due to it breaking down before the gauntlet. However, with no srimech, and Series 2 armour, it stands no chance against Cedric Slammer. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:48, September 30, 2016 (UTC) A Series 2 standard bot that proved so unreliable, it didn't even get to do its gauntlet run against a Series 6 robot powerful enough to knock itself and a future Semi-Finalist out with one blow? Pain, feel the pain of a slam from Cedric as well as your own unreliability, in pieces you shall go home in.--Nononsensecapeesh (talk) 17:35, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Even if Pain is working properly, Cedric Slammer will wreck it completely. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:04, September 30, 2016 (UTC) I like Cedric Slammer, I hope it does okay. GutripperSpeak 23:19, September 30, 2016 (UTC) It is impossible for me to tell how well Pain would’ve performed in the Gauntlet, let alone the arena, but I can see Cedric Slammer outdriving Pain and causing terminal damage to its chassis, armour, tracks and electronics with the disc. VulcansHowl (talk) 10:11, October 1, 2016 (UTC) No Pain, no gain? Well I doubt it'll gain anything either - Cedric Slammer will completely dismantle it. Nweston8 (talk) 12:30, October 1, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Cedric Slammer (0-12)

Xylon vs Mute

Xylon	Mute
Votes for Xylon	Votes for Mute Mute is much better, Xylon will not know where it is after it's been flipped everywhere. Jimlaad43(talk) 08:30, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Mute lost in Round 1 to M2 last time, the only robot I like more. I'm prepared for the worst. ToastUltimatum 11:20, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Xylon, seems to have low ground clearance, and I see Mute having problems with getting underneath Xylon for a while. But eventually getting underneath from the back of Xylon and possibly throwing Xylon out of the arena TKK3nta (talk) 11:24, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Mute gets in from behind a flips Xylon to oblivion!Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 11:35, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Whenever I see Xylon in action, its flipper just waves around pathetically with hardly any kick to it whatsoever. Ragnabot is not being kind to it this year...Mute is just so much more effective. CrashBash (talk) 13:14, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Mute dominant, the Sergeant domin- oh wait, never mind, that can't happen in this arena. Anyway, Mute should win this on aggression and, dare I say it, control, but I can't see them getting a knock-out blow. Just like against Mr Nasty really. Raz3r(talk) 14:41, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Xylon could at the very least stay active against flippers. The problem though is that it is no Judge Shred 3 in terms of flip power and ground clearance. Henceforth, Mute to constantly flip it, albeit having to do this for the majority of the battle due to Xylon being invertible. Nonetheless, a clean victory for Mute by winning on aggression and control. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:47, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Presenting the great somersaulting Mute as he performs an immediate oota flip on Xylon.--Nononsensecapeesh (talk) 17:38, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Yup, Mute shouldn't have any trouble with this one. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:05, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Flipper v boxy wedge never ends well, dating back to Cassius Roadblock. GutripperSpeak 23:19, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Mute can easily use both its flippers to lift and throw Xylon around in various places, but Xylon was fairly durable, so it should last to a judges’ decision. Even so, Mute has got this covered with its more effective and powerful flippers and more sustained aggression. VulcansHowl (talk) 10:11, October 1, 2016 (UTC) Mute may need to work a bit and bide its time to get its flips in, but Xylon offers nothing in terms of attacking potential in this battle. Nweston8 (talk) 12:30, October 1, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Mute (0-12)

Ansgar's Revenge vs Plunderbird 2

Ansgar's Revenge	Plunderbird 2
Votes for Ansgar's Revenge Maybe I am overrating Ansgar's Revenge here, but it wasn't a bad robot by any means. When it was working, it actually seemed to be quite quick across the arena, more so than Plunderbird 2 was. Maybe it will be able to use its lifting spears to topple its opponent, or simply be able to outpush Plunderbird 2 due to its weight advantage. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 16:03, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Having rewatched Ansgar's Revenge's one and only fight, I have to agree with SpaceManiac. Let's not forget that Plunderbird 2 isn't as quick as the later ones and Ansgar's Revenge weighed 200kg (I have no idea what Plunderbird 2 weighed, but it won't be more than 80kg). To take on a machine with the weight and speed of Ansgar's Revenge, you need a good weapon or a combination of speed and pushing power. Plunderbird 2 has pushing power, but it doesn't have speed or a good weapon. Raz3r(talk) 16:19, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Two fights. I'm considering switching sides, but you should probably watch its battle in the German Wars (and by extension just watch the whole thing, it's only three episodes long), as Ansgar's Revenge was much less impressive there. ToastUltimatum 16:28, September 30, 2016 (UTC) I'll watch it now. Raz3r(talk) 16:35, September 30, 2016 (UTC) First heat was pretty bad, but the second heat was alright and the grand final was good fun. Psycho falling over and the Golem drop zone was hilarious! I knew about Golem but I'd actually completely forgotten about Mr Psycho falling over in that fight until I saw it! Managed to skip the interviews, they really had a lot of filler in those 3 episodes, didn't they? I still won't change my vote though. Raz3r(talk) 17:19, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Oh boy, just cos Ansgar's Revenge never won a battle, people think a Series 2 standard British bot that can't even self-right can beat it, well I don't. This is one war the Germans will win, Ansgar's Revenge need only flip Plunderbird over with that front flipping weapon.--Nononsensecapeesh (talk) 17:41, September 30, 2016 (UTC) I'll go for Ansgar's Revenge to have enough in the tank to drive at Plunderbird 2 straight away and lift it over. Nweston8 (talk) 12:30, October 1, 2016 (UTC) Not that it makes much of a difference, but I'll switch to this side. Ansgar was intermittent, but Plunderbird is slow and tasked with something so heavy that they won't make much progress while Ansgar is sat lifelessly. When Ansgar exacts its Revenge, it'll make much more of an impact. ToastUltimatum 18:48, October 1, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Plunderbird 2 I'm going for the shock here. Ansgar will be hard to push, but Plundy 2 will try to push something over double its weight, and the attempt will at least score points. This Ansgar wasn't fantastic, so I'm glad they decided to stick a nice blade on it for series 7. Jimlaad43(talk) 08:30, September 30, 2016 (UTC) I'd be more willing to vote for Ansgar here, were it not for the fact that its drive and reception was so intermittent. It just seemed to stop and start in fits and spurts. Plunderbird 2 can at least get some good pushes in. CrashBash (talk) 13:15, September 30, 2016 (UTC) I will admit this is a tough choice but reading the above arguments have pushed me this direction.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 14:27, September 30, 2016 (UTC) They had two chances to prove themselves and had radio problems both times. That shovel looks like a poor shape to lift anything. RA2; aka Resetti's Replicas. (My Talk) 16:31, September 30, 2016 (UTC) A tough one, but I just can't see Ansgar flipping Plunderbird, so the IWC will be able to push the German robot around. Again, I take it the other Plunderbirds will be in this too? Hogwild94 (talk) 18:07, September 30, 2016 (UTC) To be blunt, Ansgar's Revenge doesn't drive very well. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 23:05, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Plunderbird was the best driven of the five, and Ansgar's Revenge was the worst driven of the three. GutripperSpeak 23:19, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Ansgar’s Revenge looked more potent, sure, but it had abysmal reliability which saw it dying in under a minute during BOTH of its battles. Plunderbird 2 may be slower and lacking a srimech, but it should outlast Ansgar’s Revenge by a considerable margin, and could end up getting underneath Ansgar’s Revenge and pushing it around if Ansgar’s weapon is pointing the wrong way...VulcansHowl (talk) 10:11, October 1, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Plunderbird 2 (5-8)

Hammertron vs Ajjay

Hammertron	Ajjay
Votes for Hammertron	Votes for Ajjay I doubt either will be that effective against each other, but seeing as Hammertron barely moved, Ajjay is at least agile enough to convince the judges that they're the better robot. Jimlaad43(talk) 08:30, September 30, 2016 (UTC) I give Hammertron more credit than most would, but Ajjay has too much defense, and will knock it about. ToastUltimatum 11:18, September 30, 2016 (UTC) At least Ajjay can ram it way to victory.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 11:38, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Guys, could you please stop changing the photo or names of something without asking me please, I choose them on basis of quality AND how they will act in the Arena. I always go to the robots page and 9 times out of 10 take the main image as the photo for this, but sometimes, like here and Schumey, I feel that another image is a better representation of the robot. So can you stop changing stuff behind my back. Jimlaad43(talk) 12:03, September 30, 2016 (UTC) To be honest, I object to the image we used for Schumey Too. The reason why is that it represents the robot negatively rather than in a neutral tone. Plus, I don't believe it was the robot's fault it was near the pit anyway; the annoying arena spike, plus a well-controlled push by Steel Avenger, were the true factors in this case. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 12:21, September 30, 2016 (UTC) I'm fine with peopkle telling me the reasons as to why to change it, but the Schumey one actually shows us wht Schumey looks like, the image from the from doesn't really give the impression of what the bot does. Anyway, if I chose for Razer the picture of it down the pit in 2016, would that affect your vote? Jimlaad43(talk) 12:39, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Well I can definitely say that I preferred Diotoir's choice of image, as it is more representative. Hammertron entered the arena with its lid raised, and then closed it when activate was called, never lifting it up again. Schumey literally dying was always going to raise some eyebrows, and I don't see the problem with the lead image, it showed the lifting forks. Kat 3 used the best image available at the time, but in the heats it should use a Series 7 pic. A robot's name hasn't been changed since Spirit of Scorpion - I don't see what the problem is with using a few brackets, Thor (2016) and Scorpion (Series 7) are clearly more accurate than Thor 2 and Spirit of Scorpion. ToastUltimatum 14:13, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Sorry but you're the one that complained about "potato" quality images yet you keep adding them when we have better imagery out there.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 14:26, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Hammertron looks visually entertaining, no wonder the producers allowed it in (plus the fact it can self-right too). In this battle, Ajjay's weapon for those who don't know, did actually work against Stinger. The sit-and-spin technique should cause Hammertron to break down eventually. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 12:21, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Ajjay is faster, more reliable and managed to fight Stinger to a standstill, only losing on a split decision, whereas Hammertron fell apart fighting a lesser robot in Sonic. Says it all. CrashBash (talk) 13:17, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Some of the battles in this group have been difficult to decide on. This isn't one of them. Raz3r(talk) 14:44, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Ajjay is so low that no amount of reliability or lack thereof on either side will help Hammertron here, Ajjay could just get underneath it and ram it into the pit.--Nononsensecapeesh (talk) 17:44, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Hammertron is one of my favourite obscure S3 entrants, but, even if Ajjay still doesn't work properly, its superior speed will be able to see it to victory here. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:08, September 30, 2016 (UTC) When you mean Ajjay not working, do you mean the weapon? If so, it actually did work in its only battle. The reason for the confusion is because Ajjay was actually supposed to be a full-body spinner (which Jonathan Pearce thought as well) before suddenly turning into a sit-and-spin robot. Indeed, to this day I still wonder if Ajjay would have won its battle with Stinger if it was designed as a sit-and-spin robot from the start. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 18:26, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Right, so Ajjay was basically what you get if you try to make a full body spinner in AoD; a circle shaped robot with some spikes that you simply make turn right or left at speed to 'spin'? Hogwild94 (talk) 18:57, September 30, 2016 (UTC) Hammertron’s weapon looks too high and weak to reach and cause damage to Ajjay when spinning and in the lowered position. Even with its own spinning weapon not working, Ajjay should use its drive to ram Hammertron around the arena for a comfortable and well-earned judges’ decision. VulcansHowl (talk) 10:11, October 1, 2016 (UTC) Ajjay is a solid, aggressive machine. This should be a comfortable win. Nweston8 (talk) 12:30, October 1, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Ajjay (0-10)

Cyrax vs Iron-Awe 2.1

Cyrax	Iron-Awe 2.1
Votes for Cyrax Going for a surprise here. To be honest, it seems to me that in most battles, Iron-Awe 2.1 seems to use its axe first. That axe, with the exception of facing Barber-Ous 2, almost always seems to fail to hit the target. To make matters worse, once it does use the axe, it kind of makes the flipper unusable for a brief period of time and allows the opponent to gain the upper hand. Therefore, if Cyrax does get underneath (which I think it can since it flipped Razer), it likely will flip Iron-Awe 2.1 over. Under normal circumstances, Iron-Awe 2.1 should self-right. But, as proven against Barber-Ous 2 and Bigger Brother, if the axe has already fired by the time Iron Awe 2.1 was flipped, it actually prevents it from self-righting. Hence, Cyrax to win by a flip of doom! SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 19:47, October 1, 2016 (UTC) I'm not sure Iron Awe 2/2.1 is as good as some people think. It never did well against flippers (Chaos 2 and Dantomkia come to mind), and got lucky with one flip on Bigger Brother. Cyrax actually seemed quite well controlled in its battle against Razer, and I think they could cause a surprise here. I agree with SpaceManiac on the axe; it just seemed to get in the way of self-righting and never caused much bother. While Cyrax's axe isn't exactly damaging it can still score aggression points with it. Raz3r(talk) 20:31, October 1, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Iron-Awe 2.1 I was hoping Cyrax would do well in this tournament. Unfortunately it goes out to a very deserving opponent. Jimlaad43(talk) 19:20, October 1, 2016 (UTC) One flip from Iron-Awe should be enough to overturn Cyrax and win this one. Hogwild94 (talk) 19:24, October 1, 2016 (UTC) In all fairness Cyrax did rather well in the last Ragnabot. ToastUltimatum 19:28, October 1, 2016 (UTC) I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Cyrax doesn't have a self-righting mechanism. I certainly can't see one. We lose another Ragnabot heat-finalist. CrashBash (talk) 19:30, October 1, 2016 (UTC) I can see some kind of bar leading up to the siren, that potentially moves. Doesn't really affect the outcome thankfully. ToastUltimatum 19:40, October 1, 2016 (UTC) Fairly easy results here.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 19:35, October 1, 2016 (UTC) I can see this being a tough fight for Iron-Awe 2.1, Cyrax was able to put up a fight against Razer and never be immobilised but can it self-right? I think that what will be the major factor to Cyrax, if Iron-Awe 2.1 flips it over what will happen? and for that reason I think Iron-Awe 2.1 will win. TKK3nta (talk) 00:30, October 2, 2016 (UTC) Iron Awe has the better drivers (read Mike Lambert's comments on that) and far more potent weapons. I think one flip on Razer has raised Cyrax above underrated status into an overrated robot, to be honest. GutripperSpeak 01:31, October 2, 2016 (UTC) Even if Iron Awe got lucky against Bigger Brother, that doesn't mean Cyrax can suddenly beat it. Cyrax is not Dantomkia or Chaos 2. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 02:25, October 2, 2016 (UTC) Cyrax is a decent robot but what can it do here? Its axe is poor, its flipper won't be able to topple something as long and wide as Iron-Awe, and Iron-Awe should be able to flip it over comfortably, which links into the point of how easily can Cyrax self-right? I'd fancy the Iron-Awe axe to penetrate Cyrax as well. Nweston8 (talk) 12:33, October 2, 2016 (UTC) Would you look at that, I have wifi! Well, the uni library does. Anyway, Cyrax wasn't at all bad, but the armour looks pretty vulnerable to Iron Awe's axe and I'm not convinced how well it'd self-right either... Combatwombat555 (talk) 15:02, October 2, 2016 (UTC) I was originally going to vote Cyrax through on the basis of its faster axe and Iron-Awe 2/2.1’s susceptibility to being flipped. However, after rewatching its Series 6 battles and reading other users’ reasons for voting Iron-Awe, I’ve come to realise that Cyrax's armour can easily be damaged by Iron-Awe 2.1's axe and its lack of srimech will cost it when Iron-Awe decides to flip it over. Shame, because I always thought that Cyrax looked decent. VulcansHowl (talk) 18:06, October 2, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Iron-Awe 2.1 (2-11)

Steg-O-Saw-Us vs Kater Killer

Steg-O-Saw-Us	Kater Killer
Votes for Steg-O-Saw-Us Kater Killer will be pushed around by the dino. Incidentally, do we have any better photos, the main one we use is actually terrible if you have a look at it properly? Jimlaad43(talk) 19:20, October 1, 2016 (UTC) Steg-O-Saw-Us is basically an uninvertible Tornado, so Kater Killer should be shoved around and eventually into the pit. Hogwild94 (talk) 19:25, October 1, 2016 (UTC) We don't have Challenge quality rips of Series 3, I think you'd struggle to get a better image than the magazine scan. ToastUltimatum 19:28, October 1, 2016 (UTC) Well, given how Kater Killer kinda just stopped moving, this should be an easy win for Steg. At least Kat 3 is still in the competition this time. CrashBash (talk) 19:31, October 1, 2016 (UTC) Ram Kater Killer to oblivion.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 19:38, October 1, 2016 (UTC) Well, at least we still have Kat 3. Although Kater Killer was unlucky to face serious competition in Gemini and Tornado, the fact that it is face a similar robot to the latter will mean that it stands no chance. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 19:55, October 1, 2016 (UTC) Sometimes, you don't need a proper weapon to win fights. This is one of those times. Raz3r(talk) 20:32, October 1, 2016 (UTC) Steg-O-Saw-Us was a quite a decent rammer for it's time I believe. And it did well enough to reach the Semi-Finals. I can see it ramming Kater Killer to death TKK3nta (talk) 00:35, October 2, 2016 (UTC) Just signing my name. GutripperSpeak 01:31, October 2, 2016 (UTC) Steg-O-Saw-Us shouldn't break much sweat here. It can shove Kater Killer all day, whether that be around the arena or into the multiple arena hazards. Nweston8 (talk) 12:33, October 2, 2016 (UTC) Not convinced by Kater Killer's weapon, and with that out of the equation there's only one winner of a pushing match. Combatwombat555 (talk) 15:03, October 2, 2016 (UTC) An easy win for Steg-O-Saw-Us, ramming Kater Killer until it becomes immobilised. VulcansHowl (talk) 18:06, October 2, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Kater Killer
Winner: Steg-O-Saw-Us (12-0)

Roobarb vs Sweeney Todd

Roobarb	Sweeney Todd
Votes for Roobarb Roobarb is no Apollo, but Sweeney Todd aren't going to score any points by running away. The angle grinders won't damage the wrapping paper, so any kind of flip will seal the win. Jimlaad43(talk) 19:20, October 1, 2016 (UTC) Despite Roobarb's weak armour, Sweeney Todd's discs weren't that good, plus the robot itself was pretty wee, so Roobarb should be able to flip it around and win this one. Hogwild94 (talk) 19:26, October 1, 2016 (UTC) I think it's fair to say that some foil will come off (the Chompalot side panel right in front of me has foil on it and I could slice that with my fingernail), but Sweeney Todd's problem here isn't its weight, but its speed. It was so cumbersome. Otherwise the high ground clearance will cost it. ToastUltimatum 19:26, October 1, 2016 (UTC) The fact that we saw Sweeney Todd do very little other than slide slowly around aimlessly throughout its entire fight speaks volumes for me. Whilst those wheels were imaginative, they really let it down. CrashBash (talk) 19:32, October 1, 2016 (UTC) ...Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 19:40, October 1, 2016 (UTC) I have to admit, I look forward to seeing Sweeney Todd 2, especially if it keeps the same control scheme. Maybe with some extra weight, it could actually become a threat. For now, Roobarb will dominate and flip Sweeney Tood all over the arena. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 19:49, October 1, 2016 (UTC) Sweeney Todd just wasn't up to a 2016 standard. An interesting concept, yes, but not executed well. Roobarb to flip them around the arena until cease or an immobilization. Raz3r(talk) 20:34, October 1, 2016 (UTC) It looks like we have our second 2016 robot go out in the qualifiers, unfortunately it has to be Sweeney Todd today, It's looks like Roobarb will have fun flipping Sweeney Todd TKK3nta (talk) 00:58, October 2, 2016 (UTC) Just signing my name. GutripperSpeak 01:31, October 2, 2016 (UTC) Roobarb could literally line up its attack on Sweeney Todd for as long as it wants - it's that slow. Nweston8 (talk) 12:33, October 2, 2016 (UTC) Imagining something similar to Roobarb's battle with Maximus, except Sweeney Todd might stay a bit more mobile. Combatwombat555 (talk) 15:09, October 2, 2016 (UTC) As the others have said, Roobarb will flip Sweeney Todd around the arena until it breaks down. Shame, because the Mecanum wheels looked interesting. VulcansHowl (talk) 18:06, October 2, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Sweeney Todd
Winner: Roobarb (12-0)

Dreadnaut vs Demolition Man 2

Dreadnaut	Demolition Man 2
Votes for Dreadnaut	Votes for Demolition Man 2 Dreadnaut will be demolished. Jimlaad43(talk) 19:20, October 1, 2016 (UTC) Yeah, S1 Dreadnaut broke down every round, so Demolition Man will have no issues here I shouldn't think. Hogwild94 (talk) 19:27, October 1, 2016 (UTC) Weirdly not as straightforward as it looks. Demolition Man died... easily, to say the least. Dreadnaut at least finished the Gauntlet, so it technically did a better job of surviving its first run than Demolition Man did. But I'll give the benefit of the doubt. Incidentally Dreadnaut XP-1 is owned by the same team as Chompalot </bragging> ToastUltimatum 19:31, October 1, 2016 (UTC) Even if we ignore Dreadnaut's reliability issues, it wasn't exactly fantastic...heck, I pretty much ranked it 4th out of 5 in its heat (it really should have beaten Wedgehog had it been working properly). I dunno how far Demolition Man will rank, I'll get to that as and when, but it looks like it could cause a little bit of damage, and it probably won't get flipped. CrashBash (talk) 19:35, October 1, 2016 (UTC) This won't be pretty...Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 19:41, October 1, 2016 (UTC) I like the Demolition Man series, but I am unsure whether they will be competitve in Ragnabot 2. Regardless, Demolition Man 2 should easily win here, as its opponent was prone to breaking down all by itself. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 19:50, October 1, 2016 (UTC) Thanks for making up the numbers dreadnaut. Raz3r(talk) 23:12, October 1, 2016 (UTC) Even without it having reliability issues I can see Demolition's disc doing some damage to the armour of Dreadnaut. But this first of Dreadnaut I didn't think would make it out of the qualifiers. TKK3nta (talk) 01:02, October 2, 2016 (UTC) I'd have given Dreadnaut XP-1 a snowball's chance in hell. Series 1-2 era Dreadnaut I give a snowflake's chance in hell. GutripperSpeak 01:31, October 2, 2016 (UTC) Well, I don't think "the big slug" stands much of a chance here. Nweston8 (talk) 12:33, October 2, 2016 (UTC) Dreadnaut XP-1 I'd consider voting for (but probably wouldn't), this version has the added reliability issues and there's not a whole lot it could do to Demolition Man 2. Combatwombat555 (talk) 15:25, October 2, 2016 (UTC) Neither of these two were reliable, but I can’t see Dreadnaut’s forks having much effect on Demolition Man’s ground clearance. Demolition Man 2 to cause gashes in Dreadnaut’s fibreglass shell and cause it to break down… again. VulcansHowl (talk) 18:06, October 2, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Demolition Man 2 (0-12)

Terror Turtle vs RCC

Terror Turtle	RCC
Votes for Terror Turtle Terror Turtle isn't flying OotA, and RCC conked out quite easily. Therefore I see a (shock horror) Terror Turtle victory. Jimlaad43(talk) 19:20, October 1, 2016 (UTC) Hmm, yes. Plus, RCC's armour got wrecked quite easily IIRC. Hogwild94 (talk) 19:28, October 1, 2016 (UTC) We lost Overdozer, we lost Sweeney Todd, but we're putting Terror Turtle through, Random.org has some compassion for the joke entries after all. To give a little bit of credit, RCC took some serious opposition to kill it in the Dutch Wars, but Terror Turtle isn't all that bad really. ToastUltimatum 19:33, October 1, 2016 (UTC) It's hard to judge a robot who died after only a couple of hits, but frankly, RCC's weapon looks very cumbersome, not well suited for hitting a robot like Terror Turtle at all...so, benefit of the doubt. It might even get stranded on The Hatchling, which won't help. CrashBash (talk) 19:36, October 1, 2016 (UTC) What's this?! Terror Turtle's gonna win something! This is one for the history books!Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 19:42, October 1, 2016 (UTC) I highly doubt RCC's axe will cause any damage, nor will Terror Turtle's weapon be as deadly as PulverizeR's. Regardless, it should dominate RCC here, eventually causing it to break down. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 19:57, October 1, 2016 (UTC) Terror Turtle to win on aggression and damage. Probably control too. Slow and steady wins the race is how the saying goes (I know that's for the tortoise but oh well). Raz3r(talk) 23:16, October 1, 2016 (UTC) So it looks like we are gonna lose our first two 2016 robots for a robot that got stuck on the arena wall. But I just don't see RCC being able to do anything to Terror Turtle TKK3nta (talk) 01:06, October 2, 2016 (UTC) Terror Turtle does not deserve to be the statistical worst robot. It looks good and effective and innovative. GutripperSpeak 01:31, October 2, 2016 (UTC) A bit hard to judge RCC, but its weapon hardly looked the most potent either. Terror Turtle to win via aggression amongst other things or a knockout. Nweston8 (talk) 12:33, October 2, 2016 (UTC) Nothing to add really. Combatwombat555 (talk) 15:28, October 2, 2016 (UTC) RCC broke down fairly easily in its only Dutch battle, and withdrew from the Losers Melee it was supposed to fight in. Terror Turtle could win this by simply ramming RCC and using its blade to cause damage - with or without The Hatchling. VulcansHowl (talk) 18:06, October 2, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for RCC
Winner: Terror Turtle (12-0)

Cunning Plan vs Crusader 2

Cunning Plan	Crusader 2
Votes for Cunning Plan	Votes for Crusader 2 If I'm honest, I wanted Crusader 2 to go out as soon as possible, because I feel that it, along with Rammstein and frenZy are Series 4 robots that are vastly overrated in these tournaments. But, it drew a (very good mind) featherweight, and logic states that this should be an easy win for Crusader. Jimlaad43(talk) 19:20, October 1, 2016 (UTC) Well, to be fair, this was largely based on its domination over Steg 2, and also due to the fact that people believed that it only lost due to being "unfairly attacked" by the House Robots, despite the fact the team admitted after the battle that it had already lost half of its drive. And this is why the post-match interviews are important. CrashBash (talk) 19:39, October 1, 2016 (UTC) Is dominance over a former Grand Finalist not grounds for being popular? Cyrax gets lots of love for less than that. As for the interference, I think that was debunked many years ago. I think people just like Crusader 2 because it proved itself a pretty capable little machine. Is that wrong? GutripperSpeak 11:35, October 2, 2016 (UTC) Well, yes, because I was the one who debunked it in the first place. But before that it was indeed insanely popular because of both the reasons I mentioned. The first point is still valid, of course. Personally, I think people also think its dual drive system is really good, but frankly I think that's overrated because it failed to work. CrashBash (talk) 13:09, October 2, 2016 (UTC) The only way Cunning Plan can win this is to do what it did to T.R.A.C.I.E., but that would probably result in a rematch. Crusader 2 should be able to flip to win this one. Hogwild94 (talk) 19:29, October 1, 2016 (UTC) This'll be weirdly challenging for Crusader, as they'd have a very difficult time slotting their flicker under a tiny robot like Cunning Plan, but when they drive on top, they'll either keep pushing, or just burn out the Grand Finalist shock elimination!?!?'s electronics by sitting on them. ToastUltimatum 19:34, October 1, 2016 (UTC) Y'know, Crusader lost in the qualifiers last time...so at least it's got an easy ride this time. There's nothing Cunning Plan can do. CrashBash (talk) 19:39, October 1, 2016 (UTC) Well this isn't much of a challenge.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 19:44, October 1, 2016 (UTC) Shame this battle had to happen early, I would have loved to have seen both in the heats. Nonetheless, that is how Ragnabot 2 works. Anyhow, I suspect that Cunning Plan's cunning plan will be to use its speed to its advantage, annoying the heavier machine. But once Crusader 2 gets its lifter underneath, it should flip it over. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 20:02, October 1, 2016 (UTC) Bit one sided really. No complaints on this decision. Raz3r(talk) 23:18, October 1, 2016 (UTC) While some people may see Crusader 2 as overrated, I just think it when to a different Heat in Series 4 it may have done a lot better. But a Lightweight like Cunning Plan I don't see it being able to do anything to Crusader 2. TKK3nta (talk) 01:08, October 2, 2016 (UTC) Just signing my name. GutripperSpeak 01:31, October 2, 2016 (UTC) Crusader 2 won't be troubled in any way. Nweston8 (talk) 12:33, October 2, 2016 (UTC) Cunning Plan gets stuck underneath its opponent and takes them both out in a murder-suicide. Then Roadblock purges the arena of the rest- wait, wrong robot. What Toast said. Combatwombat555 (talk) 15:38, October 2, 2016 (UTC) Both robots will prove aggressive by ramming into each other, but Crusader 2 has the weight advantage and the flipping arm to ram Cunning Plan from the sides, even if it is unable to get underneath Cunning Plan’s ground clearance and flip it over completely. VulcansHowl (talk) 18:06, October 2, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Crusader 2 (0-12)

The Parthian Shot vs Storm Force

The Parthian Shot	Storm Force
Votes for The Parthian Shot	Votes for Storm Force Storm Force got the ultimate bad draw in Series 5, and it's a shame it never returned. The Parthian Shot will not be a problem for it though. Jimlaad43(talk) 19:20, October 1, 2016 (UTC) Were those flail things on Parthian Shot meant to rotate? Doesn't change the outcome if so. Storm Force can flip and pit here I should think. Hogwild94 (talk) 19:30, October 1, 2016 (UTC) The Parthian Shot, the only robot to withdraw from the competition on multiple occasions, will not make the main competition here either. I have to wonder if The Parthian Shot EVER worked, it's right down there with Stomp on the list of robots that will never win a forum battle. ToastUltimatum 19:36, October 1, 2016 (UTC) I don't particularly like judging robots that never competed, but given Parthian Shot's record, I have to assume it has terrible reliability regardless. Storm Force wasn't a bad robot, it was just saddled against a robot it couldn't beat. CrashBash (talk) 19:40, October 1, 2016 (UTC) Shame the official image isn't on the old website, regardless it wouldn't make a difference because it would probably withdraw before the match begins!Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 19:45, October 1, 2016 (UTC) Out of fairness, I am going to assume that The Parthian Shot will move. After all, it qualified in Series 3 with that obstacle course, don't forget. However, this fact still won't let it win against Storm Force, whom will topple it in one flip of doom if it is lucky. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 20:00, October 1, 2016 (UTC) Storm Force's flipper doesn't actually look that bad, and they survived longer against Chaos 2 than most. Comfortable victory for the first robot to crash out of the Fifth Wars. Raz3r(talk) 23:20, October 1, 2016 (UTC) Storm Force looks like it can easily flip The Partian Shot. Unfortunately it's hard to show off your weapons against a two time UK champion. TKK3nta (talk) 01:10, October 2, 2016 (UTC) Just signing my name. GutripperSpeak 01:31, October 2, 2016 (UTC) Storm Force has enough about it to win battles like this, comfortably. Nweston8 (talk) 12:33, October 2, 2016 (UTC) Kind of liked Storm Force, it looked pretty decent. Start of a promising run? Combatwombat555 (talk) 15:42, October 2, 2016 (UTC) At last, Storm Force will be able to show what its flipper and axe can do. I doubt that The Parthian Shot’s flails can dent Storm Force’s body, can they? VulcansHowl (talk) 18:06, October 2, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Storm Force (0-12)

Psycho Chicken vs Ceros

Psycho Chicken	Ceros
Votes for Psycho Chicken	Votes for Ceros Psycho Chicken isn't winning this. It's only hope is that Ceros gets painted Blue and Yellow and is renamed "Marcus Ericsson". Jimlaad43(talk) 19:20, October 1, 2016 (UTC) Or is painted red, black and white and called "Esteban Gutierrez". SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 19:53, October 1, 2016 (UTC) No, because then it would just get in everyone's way. (Plus, did you read what happened to Ericsson on the run up to this GP? To do with Chickens)Jimlaad43(talk) 05:56, October 2, 2016 (UTC) Ceros easily wins here, as even with that very high ground clearance which may make it hard for Ceros' flipper design to get under and get purchase to flip, there's nothing it can do in retaliation. Hogwild94 (talk) 19:32, October 1, 2016 (UTC) I'll always remember the time Psycho Chicken won a heat in one of my travel entertainment Ragnabots. But go on Ceros, flip Scramble out of the arena! ToastUltimatum 19:37, October 1, 2016 (UTC) Well, at least Ceros can start redeeming itself after its early exit from the previous Ragnabot. That ground clearance...CrashBash (talk) 19:42, October 1, 2016 (UTC) Psycho Chicken has an amazing design but looks won't win competitions.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 19:47, October 1, 2016 (UTC) Ceros should win with a flip of doom here. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 19:53, October 1, 2016 (UTC) Psycho Chicken does make me grin, even if it was rubbish, a bit like Ruf Ruf Dougal and Granny's Revenge. However, this is Ragnabot, and all battles between a chicken and a rhino will always end up with the same result. Not that I've ever seen one. One flip and that's that I think.Raz3r(talk) 23:25, October 1, 2016 (UTC) Looks like the ground clearance is big enough for Ceros to get under and have it's way with this battle TKK3nta (talk) 01:11, October 2, 2016 (UTC) Just signing my name. GutripperSpeak 01:31, October 2, 2016 (UTC) Ceros has a good thrust to it, which should see it be able to throw Psycho-Chicken over, and probably - after a few flips - out of the arena. Nweston8 (talk) 12:33, October 2, 2016 (UTC) Not sure it's going OotA, but definitely over. Combatwombat555 (talk) 15:44, October 2, 2016 (UTC) Its chicken omelettes all round, as Ceros flips Psycho Chicken over and tosses Scramble out! VulcansHowl (talk) 18:06, October 2, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: Ceros (0-12)

Night Stalker vs Mazakari

Night Stalker	Mazakari
Votes for Night Stalker I don't really know anything about Night Stalker unfortunately, but it looks very low, and Mazakari's disc may be too high to hit it. It would probably be able to push Maz around more than Maz can push back with the shapes of them, so a tentative vote for Night Stalker from me. Jimlaad43(talk) 11:21, October 4, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Mazakari Mazakari is in my trio of robots that had a battle wrongly called against their favour in my opinion, alongside Eruption and Ewe 2, and I choose to vote for it here. I'll be frank. Neither of these spinners worked. I'm not sure if Night Stalker ever span without using a sit-and-spin tactic, if it did, it certainly wasn't threatening. Mazakari at least has more durable armour, and survived for the full three minutes of a fight. ToastUltimatum 11:30, October 4, 2016 (UTC) Whilst there's very little for Mazakari to hit, I can't see it taking terminal damage, nor can I see Night Stalker really lasting. This is another battle between two robots that failed to qualify last time, and this time, Mazakari makes it through. CrashBash (talk) 11:40, October 4, 2016 (UTC) I felt Mazakari could've proved itself better if it was in a different heat, I think that weapon could've caused some damage and I think Night Stalker is a good robot to give it a chance. So I think Mazakari could win this bout. TKK3nta (talk) 11:56, October 4, 2016 (UTC)
Winner:

Rottweiler vs Not Perfect

Rottweiler	Not Perfect
Votes for Rottweiler	Votes for Not Perfect At least with the 2016 rules Not Perfect is within the weight limit. Rottweiler will be shoved around and eventually pitted. Jimlaad43(talk) 11:21, October 4, 2016 (UTC) Rottweiler is the reason I cannot even picture Bottweiler in my mind. How were they allowed to enter the same series? ToastUltimatum 11:37, October 4, 2016 (UTC) Well, given Rottweiler's large ground clearance, this isn't going to end too well. CrashBash (talk) 11:43, October 4, 2016 (UTC) I would love to have a chat with the people that thought on the design of Rottweiler, Not Perfect has this easy. TKK3nta (talk) 12:01, October 4, 2016 (UTC)
Winner:

Mean Streak vs Mad Dog

Mean Streak	Mad Dog
Votes for Mean Streak Mad Dog died for no reason really, while Mean Strak seemed to have some decent discs, and didn't just keel over and stop. Mean Streak for me. Jimlaad43(talk) 11:21, October 4, 2016 (UTC) Mad Dog may have been a participant in one of my favourite battles, but it is a free win. ToastUltimatum 11:38, October 4, 2016 (UTC) Even in the short moment it was working, Mad Dog didn't look very impressive. Mean Streak did to a degree, it was just completely overshadowed by Hellbent and S.M.I.D.S.Y. CrashBash (talk) 11:44, October 4, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Mad Dog I think Mad Dog may be able to withstand the weapon of Mean Streak and just flip it about. I think it could get it to work long enough to do something to Mean Streak. TKK3nta (talk) 12:06, October 4, 2016 (UTC)
Winner:

Hydra vs Delldog

Hydra	Delldog
Votes for Hydra As deserving of the 8th place in Ragnabot 1 was, Hydra was definitely the robot that most punched above its own weight. I doubt Hydra will reach that high a placing again, but it has a nice easy win here to start with. Jimlaad43(talk) 11:21, October 4, 2016 (UTC) Delldog is probably the biggest loss of this batch, German competitors are few and far between, and I'd put Delldog in the upper half of them. I think the presence of 2016 competitors alone seals the fate of Hydra's Top 8 hopes. ToastUltimatum 11:40, October 4, 2016 (UTC) Well, suffice to say, Hydra gets a comfortable qualifier round. CrashBash I can't see Delldog doing anything to Hydra, Hydra can flip it, axe it and do whatever it wants to Delldog, It got 8th place last time, let's see if it can do better than that. TKK3nta (talk) 12:08, October 4, 2016 (UTC) (talk) 11:45, October 4, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Delldog
Winner:

Bunny Attack vs Orac's Revenge

Bunny Attack	Orac's Revenge
Votes for Bunny Attack Bunny Attack was surprisingly good actually, and would probably be able to push Orac around like Steg did. Jimlaad43(talk) 11:21, October 4, 2016 (UTC) I totally agree, Orac was so easily overpowered by Steg that a 100kg rabbit can probably do the same. I actually managed to sneak a clip of Bunny Attack into a countdown I collaborated on for YouTube, Top 5 Teachers in Gaming. ToastUltimatum 11:36, October 4, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Orac's Revenge It's all very well pointing out Orac's defeat at the hands of Steg-O-Saw-Us, but Bunny Attack isn't exactly anywhere near the same caliber. It's not a designated rammer, and it's hardly fast. More likely, the two will ram into each other and tap each other...but Orac's axe is going to cause damage to the fur, most likely, which will sway the judges. But, at the same time, I want Bunny Attack to win, so I won't complain if I'm the only voter here. CrashBash (talk) 11:47, October 4, 2016 (UTC) I agree with CrashBash on this vote, don't think Bunny Attack could do what Steg-O-Saw-Us was able to do, Orac's Revenge I can see it giving Bunny Attack some damage. TKK3nta (talk) 12:13, October 4, 2016 (UTC)
Winner:

Cyclone (Dutch) vs Sniper

Cyclone (Dutch)	Sniper
Votes for Cyclone (Dutch) Cyclone was actually relatively fast. On the contrary, Sniper was really slow. Across three battles, I think it flipped a robot one time. Its ground clearance on the wedge is also very high (it's not just the picture, it was like that mid-fight too, using only those feeble struts on the end), so combining the two, I don't think it can actually get underneath Cyclone, which now has all the advantages. I'm surprised you used brackets for Cyclone's name here Jim, the lengths you intend to go to to avoid names like Thor (2016) made me think you'd just have Cyclone and Cyclone-Raptor (which could also have been Cyclone 2) ToastUltimatum 11:34, October 4, 2016 (UTC) Meh, I thought about it, but Cyclone-Raptor worked at least, and as I said, I'm really only using them for different robots from different teams with the same name. Jimlaad43(talk) 11:45, October 4, 2016 (UTC) I can't see Sniper getting underneath Cyclone, and so I think Cyclone will damage Sniper with it's weapon. TKK3nta (talk) 12:18, October 4, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Sniper Sniper is a more solid, wedgy bot, and will deal the necessary blows to win. Jimlaad43(talk) 11:45, October 4, 2016 (UTC) Speed or not, Sniper only needs to land that one flip to put Cyclone onto its side and it's won. CrashBash (talk) 11:49, October 4, 2016 (UTC)
Winner:

Twister (UK) vs Shrapnel

Twister (UK)	Shrapnel
Votes for Twister (UK) You DO remember that Twister is fighting Shrapnel, right? A slow, weakly armoured robot with a pathetic excuse for a weapon? Besides, why is everyone so eager to play the reliability card now when we always insist it's unfair to do so unless there's something really specific? More likely than not, Twister is going to cause some serious damage. CrashBash (talk) 11:52, October 4, 2016 (UTC)	Votes for Shrapnel Twister were pitted by Clawed Hopper. Say that sentence a few times before you even think of voting for Twister. Jimlaad43(talk) 11:21, October 4, 2016 (UTC) Don't you worry, even Bugs could beat Twister. ToastUltimatum 11:41, October 4, 2016 (UTC) It can beat Twister but it can't beat the worst walking robot of all time, a robot that is painfully slow, has useless weapons and can't even walk in a straight line? OK, if you say so...CrashBash (talk) 11:52, October 4, 2016 (UTC)
Winner:

Brutus Maximus vs Dominator 2

Brutus Maximus	Dominator 2
Votes for Brutus Maximus	Votes for Dominator 2 Apart from Hydra and Dominator 2, this batch of 16 sucks. Don't worry, better ones will come. Looking forward, the last bunch of 9 (yeah, the last few heats will be 9 battles not 8) is quite a cracker. I won't tell though. Including this update, we still have 8 lots of qualifiers to finish. BTW, Brutus will be torn limb for limb here. I'll leave the Roman Empire Puns for others to do. Jimlaad43(talk) 11:21, October 4, 2016 (UTC) It's beginning to look as though none of the wooden robots will qualify for the main competition. Their hopes will have to be left with Fatal Traction, I think. ToastUltimatum 11:44, October 4, 2016 (UTC) Eh, the only disappointment is that it's not Banshee. Oh, I really hope Banshee gets drawn against a good axe or something. But I'm getting ahead of myself, Dominator with ease. CrashBash (talk) 11:54, October 4, 2016 (UTC)
Winner: