Votes for M2
- A good few battles here are the same weapon, and it comes down to which is better. Both performed well overall, and fell to very strong flippers (Atomic and Dantomkia respectively). However, M2 still managed to dominate Atomic a lot in that battle, while Chaos 2 only got one flip in. M2 for me. Jimlaad43(talk) 21:21, February 22, 2017 (UTC)
- Forgive me for saying this, but how did M2 dominate a lot of the Atomic battle in any way? I saw a 10 second period where M2 were on top after a couple of flips and that's about it. Raz3r(talk) 07:18, February 23, 2017 (UTC)
- Ooh now this is a curious matchup. Let's get the elephant in the room out of the way first, the two have fought before. Chaos 2 held an early lead, but in the end, M2 pulled it back, and Chaos 2 couldn't recover when they were turned over. M2 gave them a helping hand, but only because it was a live event - in the arena, M2 would leave them. If M2 were in the same position, they could either roll over or self-right. I think this real battle is accurate to how this would play out in the arena, Chaos 2 failed to self-right far too many times, and at some point, M2 will get the knockout flip. TOAST 21:31, February 22, 2017 (UTC)
- Chaos 2 had M2 immobilised before that, by pinning them a la Firestorm Ripper. So that's something that needs to be said off the bat (as I've said in my vote) Toon Ganondorf (t c) 21:37, February 22, 2017 (UTC)
- Here's the thing though...would such an action be possible in the 2016 arena? CrashBash (talk) 21:40, February 22, 2017 (UTC)
- Exactly what Crash said. A curved robot can't be pinned on a curved wall. TOAST 21:48, February 22, 2017 (UTC)
- I had to sit down and really think about this one. This a very tough battle, and both have their strengths. Chaos 2 has by far the better driver, arguably the lower ground clearance and is probably more likely to score an OOTA in the new arena. M2, on the other hand, has a body shape that does not rely on using its flipper to right itself, and also probably has more gas for its flipper. Since I feel an OOTA is unlikely, I have to go on the basis of who will likely last. And, well, I think it'll be M2 who lasts just a little bit longer. The fact that both the fights at live events, where they got one-a-piece, both occurred in 2002 doesn't really help, so...yeah, I'm sticking with my guns, and my first sweepstake robot. Won't be too mad if it loses, it's probably the weakest of the three. CrashBash (talk) 21:49, February 22, 2017 (UTC)
- Trickiest of the round. Chaos 2 has the more powerful flipper, yes, but at the expense of number of flips. I really can't see either robot getting an OotA in this arena, so whilst Chaos 2 has the lower ground clearance and should get more flips initially it won't be able to finish M2 off, and that'll leave it vulnerable once the gas starts running dry. Really, it's just Bigger Brother against Chaos 2 again. Combatwombat555 (talk) 22:44, February 22, 2017 (UTC)
- Tough call but the above arguments persuaded me in the end. M2 can always count on it's shape to self-right. Chaos 2 could end up out of gas and stuck on its backside. StalwartUK 00:03, February 23, 2017 (UTC)
- This side swayed me the most since Chaos 2 runs out of gas relatively quickly, M2 just kept flipping. CaliforniaKingsnake (talk) 08:41, February 23, 2017 (UTC)
- M2 is the more reliable self-righter. It'll be Chaos 2 vs Bigger Brother again. --Voyanuitoa (talk) 10:31, February 23, 2017 (UTC)
- In hindsight, Chaos 2 should've lost to Grim Reaper and should lose to M2 here as well. GutripperSpeak 10:38, February 23, 2017 (UTC)
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Votes for Chaos 2
- We saw this battle on Facebook, and both robots got a KO at one point before rescuing the other. Why is key is that Chaos 2, despite losing gas faster, got the KO first. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 21:25, February 22, 2017 (UTC)
- Chaos 2 actually defeated M2 in 2002, and that was during a four minute battle. In a three minute battle, Chaos 2, with its better control I should note, should have no trouble. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 21:27, February 22, 2017 (UTC)
- M2's ground clearance makes this a fairly comfortable win for the more experienced Chaos 2. Hogwild94 (talk) 21:30, February 22, 2017 (UTC)
- Two hyper-aggressive robots, but the differences I see are that Chaos 2 is more controlled, less wasteful with flips and has a better ground clearance at the front, which is crucial in a battle where I see a few head-ons occurring. Raz3r(talk) 22:35, February 22, 2017 (UTC)
- Hard choice. The Live event battle did end up with M2 winning but can't deny that Chaos 2 was the far more aggressive and controlled before the last minute.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 07:13, February 23, 2017 (UTC)
- Yet another close draw, but for this one I'll have to rely on the evidence from that live battle. Both robots landed sizeable flips for a good portion of that battle, but while M2 was more aggressive at the start and had Chaos 2 beached close to the end of the first three minutes, Chaos 2 for me was more consistent and dominant in between those parts of the fight, and surprisingly efficient with its CO2 usage there. I'm picturing this battle to go a similar way, with both robots surviving to a judges' decision and Chaos 2 winning the decision for landing more flips on M2. VulcansHowl 10:08, February 23, 2017 (UTC)
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