Votes for Typhoon 2
- Oh wow, Series 7 vs Series 6 champs. This is a very interesting battle. There are a few battles to consider before choosing. Tornado vs Hypno-Disc, Tornado pushed it around and survived the hits. Typhoon 2 vs Storm 2, Typhoon was able to avoid being fully bullied by the pusher, who proved itself to be better than Tornado multiple times. Typhoon 2 vs Iron-Awe 2.1, Once spinning up, the wedge of Iron-Awe could not get close, it just kept being spun away. Overall, I think that Tornado cannot push Typhoon for long enough to cause it problems. It'll survive a few hits, but it isn't as armoured as Storm 2 was, so damage will start to cause it problems as the battle wears on. Typhon 2 for me. Jimlaad43(talk) 10:57, March 11, 2017 (UTC)
- Typhoon 2 can get up to speed faster than Tornado can catch it. CaliforniaKingsnake (talk) 11:06, March 11, 2017 (UTC)
- Typhoon 2 was exceptionally driven, enough to get away from the much faster Storm 2 and hold its own. Tornado is not fast enough to catch it before it spins up, and it'll just keep getting spun away on contact, so it can't bully its opponent as it usually does. Those side panels were also not up to the strength of the much thicker scoop, so one good shot there and Tornado could be in serious trouble. Combatwombat555 (talk) 11:37, March 11, 2017 (UTC)
- Well this is a tremendously pleasant surprise and I hope it's unanimous. Tornado was a lesser Storm 2 in every way and controversy aside, Typhoon 2 did break armour off Storm 2. Tornado has vulnerable sides (King B Powerworks showed that) and a deadly spinner will wreck havoc. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 11:43, March 11, 2017 (UTC)
- Tornado has no chance of catching Typhoon 2 as it gets its spinner going, and at heart is a much slower, much less durable Storm 2. It will most likely end up immobilised by Typhoon 2's blows, with its sides, chassis and wheels looking very worse for wear. VulcansHowl 13:10, March 11, 2017 (UTC)
- If there was one Pre-Series 8 machine I thought could beat Tornado, it was Typhoon 2. Tornado doesn't have the speed that Storm 2 did, nor is its armour as resilient. The control on Typhoon 2 should allow them to get up to enough speed to cause some severe damage to Tornado, either on its scoop or its sides. Has Typhoon 2 been the most improved robot in terms of the stage they lost at in Ragnabot 1 compared to Ragnabot 2? It's certainly up there; all of the others left (not including Anarchy or Raging Reality; they're going out) bar S3 and the new machines reached at least the Quarter Finals. Raz3r(talk) 14:44, March 11, 2017 (UTC)
- Typhoon 2 fell in the heat final last Ragnabot, whilst S3 fell in Round 2. Assuming Typhoon wins this, they'll be tied. It depends on what happens to Typhoon in the next round, and also what happens to S3 in the next semi-final. CrashBash (talk) 14:59, March 11, 2017 (UTC)
- I see the arguments for both sides, but when you get down to it, if Storm 2 was having severe troubles with Typhoon and lost, then I see no reason for Typhoon not to win this again, especially seeing as I think Tornado has weaker armour if I remember correctly. --Demon Of Tomorrow 19:42, March 11, 2017 (UTC)
- This is a battle I've pondered many times, and in the past I would've voted for Tornado, but my final opinion is Typhoon 2. I formed this after reading Andrew Marchant's reasoning for not entering Series 8 - Tornado's chassis is made of mild steel. Easy pickings for Typhoon 2 then, and even with aggression taking priority over damage now, chassis damage is just too hard to overcome - see Rapid's withdrawal. I'd also like to add more to this, because yes, Tornado quite visibly dominated Hypno-Disc... or at least that's how it comes across to the viewers at home. While I'm sure it still won on points by a significant margin, Tornado's scoop was reportedly gashed by Hypno-Disc, and took a lot of repairs to fix. Tornado's active weapons on the scoop in Series 7 will actually hinder it here - I imagine they'll equip the lifter and try to flip Typhoon, but being a lifting plate, that's not going to be nearly as solid as the Series 6 scoop, meaning that Typhoon 2 will be able to inflict major damage just about anywhere. TOAST 01:10, March 12, 2017 (UTC)
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Votes for Tornado
- Ouch. Fun fact - I did a test line-up of the Ragnabot semi-finalists, and these two got drawn together. Who did I pick? Well....I think it's obvious from my vote here. But hear me out. Yes, Storm 2 did take damage from Typhoon 2, but there's two factors here. First, it took a long time for that damage to be caused. Second, that damage largely occured because Storm 2, because of its lifter, had essentially panels. Tornado, with its full-length scoop, doesn't have that issue, so in theory, it should weather Typhoon a little better with the trade-off of perhaps having a few dents. Also, it's possible, once it gets under, the flail could cause some minor issues. That last one is me going off on a limb, but I think Tornado will just take it. CrashBash (talk) 11:55, March 11, 2017 (UTC)
- You know, I totally understand what CrashBash means, and what completely swings it for me is that Typhoon 2 will be retreating for most of the battle. With aggression carrying the most weight now, Typhoon 2 would have to cause catastrophic damage to override Tornado, and although I can see it sustaining cuts and gouges to its body on occasion, Andrew Marchant's driving should protect Tornado for the majority of the battle. I totally understand voting for Typhoon 2, but I think Tornado deserves a portion of the backing at the very least. Nweston8 (talk) 13:49, March 11, 2017 (UTC)
- Whilst Typhoon 2 is powerful, remember that Hypno-Disc was notably powerful too and its disc could only cause a few gashes to the sides of Tornado. Also, I should note that Storm 2 theoretically won that battle against Typhoon 2, and its damage appeared to be down to its own slams (plus, as mentioned above, Tornado's scoop is more robust than Storm 2's). I think Tornado could survive the slams of Typhoon 2 and push it around; but more importantly, I would argue that Typhoon 2 may struggle in this dangerous new arena. Pretty much, any of the house robots could cause notable harm to it, more so than to Tornado, the flipper fires automaticlly, which could overturn the srimechless full-body spinner and the arena is more damaging too. Maybe the system will fail this time, allowing Tornado to dominate to either win a Judges' decision or pit Typhoon 2. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 17:46, March 11, 2017 (UTC)
- I so want to give this to Typhoon 2, but I'm reminded of how it arguably only won over Storm 2 because of the panel that fell off (ignoring TPTB's tampering), and I just can't see something like that happening to Tornado whichever weapon it uses. Even the anti-Razer frame would be good for fending off Storm 2. But hey, I'm fine with whichever robot wins this one. Hogwild94 (talk) 19:59, March 11, 2017 (UTC)
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