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Well this is it. Ragnabot 3 will have been in session for just over half a year when it closes, and what a tournament it has been. Big names have crashed out early, tiny names have excelled and the preboot robots have done their best to hold their own. One Preboot robot survives in Series 7 champion Typhoon 2. Up against two other champions in Carbide and Eruption, plus Rapid, which becomes the best performing non-champion. How will the title challenge pan out and can Carbide defend its crown? There's only one way to find out. LET THE FINAL BEGIN!

Grand Final EliminatorsEdit

Carbide vs EruptionEdit

Carbide Eruption
Carbide
Eruption S10
Road to the Semi-Finals
  • Heat, Round 1: Beat Infernal Contraption (12-0)
  • Heat, Round 2: Beat The Tartan Terror (12-0)
  • Heat, Round 3: Beat Mechadroid (9-0)
  • Melees: Qualified over Botwork with Wild Thing (0-0-12)
  • Quarter-Final, Round 1: Beat The Swarm (13-0)
  • Quarter-Final, Round 2: Beat Cedric Slammer (13-0)
  • Semi-Final, Round 1: Beat Magnetar (7-6)
  • Semi-Final, Round 2: Beat Big Nipper (9-4)
Road to the Semi-Finals
  • Heat, Round 1: Beat Or Te (9-0)
  • Heat, Round 2: Beat Tornado (12-1)
  • Heat, Round 3: Beat Robochicken (13-0)
  • Melees: Qualified over Hard (Loanerbot) with Twister (Dutch) (7) (0-0-13)
  • Quarter-Final, Round 1: Beat M.R. Speed Squared (13-0)
  • Quarter-Final, Round 2: Beat Gabriel 2 (12-1)
  • Semi-Final, Round 1: Beat Tough As Nails (11-1)
  • Semi-Final, Round 2: Beat Apollo (11-1)
Votes for Carbide
  1. Yes Eruption may have taken the Series 10 title, but 1 win out of 4 against the Series 9 champions doesn't make for good reading. A fully-functioning Carbide has Eruption covered easily, the Series 10 final was unfortunately just a blip on the record in terms of judging the two. A few minutes into the fight and Eruption will take one knock too many from the blade and conk out from the constant onslaught. Jimlaad43(talk) 11:02, February 3, 2020 (UTC)
  2. Unlucky for Eruption, they've drawn Carbide at the semi-final stage yet again, for another third place finish. While we all know Eruption is the second-best robot to ever compete on the show, it seems to be a consistent pattern that Eruption falls one step short of the final, just as Apollo consistently finishes fifth. Eruption is at least in a better spot than last time, as Eruption does have its famous victory over Carbide to its credit, but much as I adore that fight and regard it as one of the best battles in the show's history, we are forced to accept that Carbide wasn't running at 100% in that bout. Now, if Ragnabot 3 followed the rules of a conventional tournament (i.e. robots taking progressive damage over the course of a tournament), I would happily vote for Eruption. By this stage of a large tournament, Carbide would be limping, and we'd be more likely to see the Series 10 final than any of the other three bouts. I daresay that if this were one of my personal Ragnabot tournaments, I'd follow this logic and make Eruption the winner. However, the wiki Ragnabot 3 rules out lasting damage in the interest of fairness, so with Carbide on full form, I think we know what's coming. Eruption can only launch flips if Carbide's bar is slowed or stopped, and that won't be happening on a fresh Carbide. TOAST 12:16, February 3, 2020 (UTC)
  3. The moment Magnetar lost to Carbide was the moment where Carbide won the tournament. I could try to give a vote to Eruption, but it has to play a 100% perfect game whereas Carbide only has to get one hit in to start messing Eruption up and dealing damage. If that hit gets landed and it will, then Eruption will start limping and will eventually die off after too many hits from Carbide's spinning bar. Shame that the last few fights are gonna be total curbstomps, though I think that's to be expected when the best of the best have fought each other... --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 14:28, February 3, 2020 (UTC)
  4. I've been debating this in my head almost since the start of the tournament, and whether I go for Eruption because it won most recently, or whether I go for Carbide, as it won more times. I'm choosing Carbide, Eruption needs to play this perfectly here, and whilst that is possible, I think Carbide will eventually do enough damage to knock out Eruption. Adster1005 15:51, February 3, 2020 (UTC)
  5. Let's be honest, this is the real Ragnabot 3 title fight. Carbide ripped Rapid apart, whilst Eruption beat Rapid fairly comfortably in Audited Series 10. Even in the one fight out of the four Eruption did win, I'd argue it was still very, very close, and I would have struggled to pick who won the judges' decision in the moment without the foreshadowing, post-battle interviews and the fact we'd had a Carbide victory the previous series. Carbide can afford to make a mistake or two in this fight, as it did in their S9 title fight, whereas Eruption simply cannot. I do still think the lack of damage/fatigue over time due to the Ragnabot rules will also help Carbide out, and that at some point or another, Carbide will achieve the hit that will take out one side of Eruption's drive again. Raz3r(talk) 17:35, February 3, 2020 (UTC)
  6. This really is the Razer-Tornado of the revival, isn't it? It's almost impossible to call any match between the two of them, as there are strong arguments to be made in either's favour, both involving an awful lot of assumptions. In the end, one thing sways it to Carbide for me: Carbide's two wins over Eruption were both knockouts, and very comfortable ones at that, while Eruption's win was a very very very narrow judges decision. I won't be using this logic for all fixtures involving robots that fought each other multiple times with different outcomes mind. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:34, February 3, 2020 (UTC)
  7. If it happened just twice in 9 and Eruption won their only bout in Series 10, Id back Eruption. But the series 10 heat final happened and therefore I’m not convinced and never will be that the grand final wasn’t a fluke, or at least a less common occurrence. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 20:09, February 3, 2020 (UTC)
  8. I think it’s terrific that Eruption won Series 10, but it was a win by the skin of their teeth, and I can’t forget that they lost to Carbide 3 times before. I simply don’t have confidence that their victory is so repeatable that they’re more likely than Carbide to win. RA2; aka Resetti's Replicas. (My Talk) 22:48, February 4, 2020 (UTC)
Votes for Eruption
  1. The Series 10 final cannot be discounted here. Yes, Eruption lost twice relatively easily in Series 9- but Series 10 Eruption had better armour designed specifically for facing Carbide. Yes, Eruption lost relatively quickly in the Series 10 heat final after taking that hit to the side, and I'm not denying that could very easily happen here- but Michale Oates did seem to learn from that, and we know that Eruption can weather the hits provided he keeps the heavily armoured front pointed at Carbide. Yes, Eruption needs to be driven pretty flawlessly to win this, but we've seen it happen, and I believe Eruption's capable of a repeat performance. Combatwombat555 (talk) 12:06, February 3, 2020 (UTC)
  2. Look, lets be realistic here. Do we all remember Ragnabot 1? The final there was between Razer and Tornado, and the latter had its anti-Razer cage. If I recall, Razer won that vote quite comfortably, with votes to spare, because the general consensus was that as time went on, Razer had shown it was able to counter the weapon Tornado had specifically built to counter it - countering the counter. Surely, therefore, the same logic should apply to Eruption too. Eruption learnt from all of its losses to Carbide, including their Heat Final clash of Series 10, and then used that against Carbide in the single-best title fight ever. The fact is, Eruption learnt how to counter Carbide. And there's also the fact of course that if Carbide can't kill its opponent quickly it starts to get into all sorts of problems, which Eruption will capitalise on. TL:DR, if we accept that Razer would beat Tornado, ARC included, based on how its performance improved each time they thought, surely the same can be said for Eruption. CrashBash (talk) 14:42, February 3, 2020 (UTC)
    Sorry, but Chaos 2 vs Pussycat and Panic Attack vs Cassius take the crown. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:45, February 3, 2020 (UTC)
    Eh, Chaos 2 vs Pussycat was too much of a foregone conclusion and Panic Attack vs Cassius felt a little too short. CrashBash (talk) 15:58, February 3, 2020 (UTC)
    lol I wouldn't have either of those two in my top five title fights! The standout best for me are Eruption vs Carbide and Tornado vs Razer, with personal favourites being Typhoon 2 vs Storm II and Panzer Mk4 vs Tricerabot. TOAST 16:19, February 3, 2020 (UTC)
    Funnily enough, my top four. CrashBash (talk) 16:26, February 3, 2020 (UTC)
    Pussycat vs Chaos 2 is definitely the best :P.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 16:30, February 3, 2020 (UTC)
    I personally don't think either of the fights you've mentioned beat the Series 9 title fight, let alone the Series 10 one. I wouldn't even put Chaos 2 vs Pussycat in the Top 10 title fights if we included the foreign series, and Panic Attack vs Cassius would be exactly 10th. Raz3r(talk) 17:35, February 3, 2020 (UTC)
    Series 9 title fight over the Series 4 one? You high or something?! Ah Raz3R your strange and weird opinions will never stop being fascinatingly unusual. (P.S. I should point out I am in no ways being mean and am joking here, just in case you take it the wrong way ;) I mean LOOK who's saying it :P )Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 18:15, February 3, 2020 (UTC)
    I mean, I'd put the Series 9 title fight at number 1. But I was in the audience for it so I am a tad biased :D Jimlaad43(talk) 19:45, February 3, 2020 (UTC)
    I mean, I thought the Series 9 title fight was extremely satisfying, personally. It was just a pure destruction-fest, something you rarely see in a RW title fight. CrashBash (talk) 19:50, February 3, 2020 (UTC)
  3. A lot gets made of Carbide not being at full fitness or being worn down as the competition progressed, but honestly, did its weapon have a stressful fight apart from the very first battle in the competition? The first fight against Nuts 2 also doesn't affect the fundamentals of the weapon for future fights either - it simply lost a chain. And really, Carbide just had multiple fights in a row where its weapon simply overpowered the opposition without resistance. Nevertheless, in the title fight itself, Michael Oates did learn. In previous fights against Carbide he was too eager to get in its face, to charge into it, or to get at its sides which opened up Eruption's own side panels. But here, Michael Oates just parked himself infront of Carbide for the first minute, and only slightly twitched left and right. Playing things so slowly and rigidly meant Carbide couldn't get as much engagement with its hits, but when it did get good engagement it would only hit Eruption's bulky front because Michael Oates wasn't opening up his sides to Carbide. He wasn't eager to get around the sides of Carbide. He simply played the stern, solid waiting game with his thick front end. Ultimately, I think Carbide being worn out going into the title fight gets given too much weight. And Michael Oates now knows the optimal way for his machine to attack Carbide isn't to charge into Carbide and put it on the backfoot like a Terrorhurtz is capable of. Eruption just isn't setup to counter Carbide that way, and he now knows that. But it is capable of countering Carbide in his own way, with the reinforced left side panel, with a less aggressive, patient approach, and by trusting his machine to withstand the hits with its front end without needing to attack straight away himself. Michael Oates to do it again. NJGW (talk) 16:43, February 3, 2020 (UTC)
  4. I'm all for an Eruption win here. Michael absolutely learned from his Series 9 title fight defeat to take the Series 10 crown, and we never would have known how the Carbide team would have responded for a theoretical Series 11 tie-breaker. However I'm inclined to believe Michael's strategy would work again here. I have no doubt in my mind that Carbide will get the damage in, but Eruption will be the more controlled and strategically driven bot throughout and take this on a JD again. SFCJack (talk) 16:52, February 3, 2020 (UTC)
  5. This is the toughest fight here and probably the toughest battle in the arena forums history. I mean, this really can go either way with the winner basically winning the championship. Carbide has the powerful and deadly weaponry and has beaten Eruption 3/4 times with the 1 loss being very destructively close. Eruption is tactical as well but it's nagging ramming attacks and flips can disrupt the blade long enough for a judges decision. I think what Nick has pointed out has swayed me to this side. The side panels will be enforced and Eruption will play a waiting game and use its front more than anything to protect the vitals and then attack when necessary. There's also the fun little fact that IF we are to have some continuity then Carbide will be quite wear from previous fights like Magnetar and Big Nipper, so this fight could cause major problems. Something I noticed while looking back on Carbide is the fact that it seem the gremlins and reliability issues from Series 8 seemed to have come back ever so slightly in Series 10 with Series 9 being what I see as "perfect Carbide" The Series 10 model seemed to be hit and damaged more easily I noticed, now that could be because of competitors but seeing as these issues may have played a part to future fights I'd say something could happen here...maybe. Regardless, I feel Nick's comments above are really main jist of my final thoughts here.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 18:15, February 3, 2020 (UTC)
  6. If the Series 10 final is anything to go by, I think Michael Oates will think twice about trying to rush this one through. NJGW makes a very valid point about Oates learning not to expose Eruption's sides and instead use its front end as a buffer against Carbide's bar. By being more calculating in the way he drove Eruption into the bar head-on, he not only ensured that the sides were unscathed, but also succeeded in wearing the spinner down until it was safe enough to land some excellent flips. The strengthened flipper and flat side plates used in the final will most likely be brought into action once more, which will add to Eruption's resilience despite it taking a lot of external damage. As far as Carbide is concerned, I watched this audience POV of its Heat 2 Group Battle again and couldn't help but notice that the death hum gradually sounded less high-pitched at full speed the more it hit Gabriel 2. That suggests to me that the bar spinner gradually lost RPMs throughout the three minutes, possibly suggesting that either the weapon motor was having issues that early on or Team Carbide were forced to conserve it for the full duration. Whatever the cause, that is not something that the defending champion will want to have while pounding away at Eruption’s bulkier and much more heavily-armoured front. The chances of the bar losing RPMs will only increase the longer Carbide keeps attacking, in turn sucking the venom out of the spinner and allowing Eruption more leeway to chuck it around without getting crippled. And that’s before we touch upon the side effects of weapon recoil, which as the duo’s Series 9 encounters prove could see some rather violent collisions putting more strain on Carbide’s weapon system. Carbide will not be KO’d, but as long as he remains patient and emulates his title-winning strategy, Oates should hang on long enough for Eruption to come out the more composed and controlling machine. VulcansHowl 20:17, February 3, 2020 (UTC)
  7. Hmm, you know what? I think NJGW and VulcansHowl might actually be onto something here. While I still suspect that Team Carbide would have learnt following Carbide's loss to Eruption, it should be noted how accurate Eruption was in utilising its front to deflect Carbide away. VulcansHowl's additional point about Carbide's bar losing power is also another factor for why I am switching sides. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 21:11, February 4, 2020 (UTC)
  8. Eruption to repeat the Series 10 Grand Final performance. Sam (BAZINGA) 21:22, February 4, 2020 (UTC)
Winner: Eruption (8-8) 1-2 Judges' Decision

Typhoon 2 vs RapidEdit

Typhoon 2 Rapid
Typhoon 2
RAPID
Road to the Semi-Finals
  • Heat, Round 1: Beat Stinger (12-2)
  • Heat, Round 2: Beat Chompalot (13-0)
  • Heat, Round 3: Beat Cassius (14-0)
  • Melees: Qualified over Leveller 2 with Storm 2 (2-0-11)
  • Quarter-Final, Round 1: Beat Pinser (12-0)
  • Quarter-Final, Round 2: Beat Texas Tornado (11-0)
  • Semi-Final, Round 1: Beat Manta (11-1)
  • Semi-Final, Round 2: Beat X-Terminator (12-0)
Road to the Semi-Finals
  • Heat, Round 1: Beat Snookums (10-0)
  • Heat, Round 2: Beat Marauder (9-0)
  • Heat, Round 3: Beat The Bat (12-0)
  • Melees: Qualified over √3 with Behemoth (0-1-10)
  • Quarter-Final, Round 1: Beat Sabretooth (10) (8-8, 2-1 Judges Decision)
  • Quarter-Final, Round 2: Beat Cherub (11-0)
  • Semi-Final, Round 1: Beat Rosie the Riveter 2 (13-0)
  • Semi-Final, Round 2: Beat Hypno-Disc (13-0)
Votes for Typhoon 2 Votes for Rapid
  1. Typhoon 2 takes the crown for finalist with the least votes against it. Well Done! This will actually end up quite close as Rapid is certainly beatable by Typhoon 2. Typhoon is well-driven enough to evade Rapid off the marks, and the sides of Rapid are certainly susceptible to damage as are the wheels underneath it. However, I can't see Typhoon staying safe for 3 minutes. Rapid's low wedge at the front will have a good effect at scooping Typhoon up, and the tactical driving of Rapid was great, so I can see it forcing Typhoon into walls or House Robots to slow it down. Rapid needs only one flip to win this, and the low wedge combined with being rear hinged means it actually has a chance of scoring a flip, even on a spinning Typhoon. Rapid can lose this if it can't flip Typhoon over in the three minutes, but Rapid was too well driven to let that be a possibility. Jimlaad43(talk) 11:02, February 3, 2020 (UTC)
  2. Rapid does seem vulnerable to heavy spinners, but Typhoon 2's not got the power of Carbide. That's if Rapid even allows it to spin up, it was on Carbide very very quickly, and Typhoon 2's got a much longer spin-up time. Even if it doesn't, it should be able to take a few hits if it needs to before getting the flip in. Combatwombat555 (talk) 12:17, February 3, 2020 (UTC)
  3. Well there we have it! RAPID was quietly sneaking through this Ragnabot, with its only battle of note being the 8-8 split against Sabretooth, but now we're forced to pay attention as RAPID moves onto the final! Guaranteed a second place finish, RPD International have done extraordinarily well here, but even more worthy of credit is Typhoon 2. To reach the Top 4 of Ragnabot 3 as a classic series competitor without a srimech is just remarkable. Granted, they made it this far without defeating a single reboot competitor, but it's a valiant campaign regardless. There's no question who would win between RAPID and Typhoon 2, so for me a more interesting question is this; how would Sabretooth have performed if it knocked RAPID out in the Top 64? It hits an immediate roadblock in Cherub at the Top 32 stage, and this already poses a significant worry. Sabretooth would struggle to get a meaningful bite on Cherub, and there could be a repeat of its Cobra loss, but I think I'm slightly favouring Sabretooth to win. Sabretooth would of course take out Rosie the Riveter II (Cherub might honestly lose to Rosie if it can't pull a Snake Bite and outwedge it head-on). Hypno-Disc is the obstacle at the Top 8 stage, which shouldn't be hard for Sabretooth (would likely be a Cherub win or a Rosie loss). Typhoon 2 poses Sabretooth some concern, as I'm not sure there'll be a killer flip without any kind of wedge on Sabretooth. Certainly more power and armour resides in Sabretooth, but if there's no KO from Sabretooth, would the judges favour Typhoon 2? I imagine we'd probably settle on Sabretooth winning, but there is an avenue for anyone out of Sabretooth, Cherub and Typhoon 2 being our possible runners-up. Of course my favourite route would be for Cherub to beat Sabretooth and then lose to Rosie the Riveter but that's definitely pushing things. Anywho well done RAPID!! TOAST 12:19, February 3, 2020 (UTC)
    Yeah, I cannot see Rosie the Riveter beating Cherub any time soon. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 12:22, February 3, 2020 (UTC)
    The Snake Bite loss should rule out a Rosie win over Cherub, but I'm conscious of Cherub's low ground clearance only being on the forks and not the front wedge itself. If Rosie slots between the forks, I reckon its presumably lower wedge and higher speed would push it through to the Top 8, but I expect I would be outvoted. TOAST 12:52, February 3, 2020 (UTC)
  4. You know Typhoon's rhythm rule? This actually applies to Carbide as well. To defeat it, you have to disrupt its movement for a bit, only unlike with Typhoon 2, you have to do this throughout the entire battle, like Eruption did in the Grand Final. RAPID was capable of challenging Carbide briefly. Henceforth, it can and will disrupt Typhoon 2, leaving it vulnerable to a flip of doom. RAPID is in the final two! SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 12:22, February 3, 2020 (UTC)
  5. As much as I'd like to prolong Typhoon 2's efforts for my own cause (Sweepstake wise) I don't see it lasting too long. Okay, I'll give it that Typhoon's tactic of "running away" so that it can speed up is plausible but I just feel an impact with send Typhoon 2 flying before Rapid then sweeps in and flips it over and/or out.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 12:47, February 3, 2020 (UTC)
  6. Hey, remember when I said we weren't done with the one-flip-and-done BS last time? Because Typhoon 2 exists! RAPID just needs to charge in and get a quick flip, and it doesn't really matter if Typhoon 2 spins up to full speed as it'll probably go out of control and get lobbed over. Still, fair play to Typhoon 2 for somehow only getting 5 votes against it on the road to the Grand Finals and getting all the way into the Grand Final itself. Atomic must be proud. Or angry. I dunno. :P --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 14:31, February 3, 2020 (UTC)
  7. Typhoon was doomed no matter who it fought. Meanwhile, Rapid massively lucked out here, as Typhoon is the only robot it could have beaten. Nothing else really needs to be said here, it's already been stated. CrashBash (talk) 14:44, February 3, 2020 (UTC)
  8. If it does go over, it’s all over! - Jonathan Pearce, 2004. 16 years later, Typhoon 2 gets flipped in the Ragnabot 3 Grand Final Eliminators. Adster1005 15:51, February 3, 2020 (UTC)
  9. This will be an awful fight. Rapid's front is the perfect width and shape to slip under Typhoon 2 without any fuss. Straight in, straight out here. NJGW (talk) 16:44, February 3, 2020 (UTC)
  10. This fight really makes me wonder what might have been had Atomic 2's strategy worked in Series 7. While I don't think this'll be a one-and-done, it's only a matter of time before RAPID gets the KO flip. SFCJack (talk) 16:47, February 3, 2020 (UTC)
  11. Rapid has enough pace and power to do what Atomic could not back in Series 7. Raz3r(talk) 17:35, February 3, 2020 (UTC)
  12. Even if Rapid doesn't flip Typhoon 2 straight away, the spinner will be largely useless against the revival armour; the flip will come eventually. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:36, February 3, 2020 (UTC)
  13. Who knows… maybe Rapid will send Typhoon 2 over the barrier like it once tried to do against Carbide? VulcansHowl 20:17, February 3, 2020 (UTC)
Winner: Rapid (0-11)

3rd Place PlayoffEdit

Carbide vs Typhoon 2Edit

Carbide Typhoon 2
Carbide
Typhoon 2
Road to the Semi-Finals
  • Heat, Round 1: Beat Infernal Contraption (12-0)
  • Heat, Round 2: Beat The Tartan Terror (12-0)
  • Heat, Round 3: Beat Mechadroid (9-0)
  • Melees: Qualified over Botwork with Wild Thing (0-0-12)
  • Quarter-Final, Round 1: Beat The Swarm (13-0)
  • Quarter-Final, Round 2: Beat Cedric Slammer (13-0)
  • Semi-Final, Round 1: Beat Magnetar (7-6)
  • Semi-Final, Round 2: Beat Big Nipper (9-4)
  • Grand Final, Eliminator: Lost to Eruption (8-8) 1-2 Judges' Decision
Road to the Semi-Finals
  • Heat, Round 1: Beat Stinger (12-2)
  • Heat, Round 2: Beat Chompalot (13-0)
  • Heat, Round 3: Beat Cassius (14-0)
  • Melees: Qualified over Leveller 2 with Storm 2 (2-0-11)
  • Quarter-Final, Round 1: Beat Pinser (12-0)
  • Quarter-Final, Round 2: Beat Texas Tornado (11-0)
  • Semi-Final, Round 1: Beat Manta (11-1)
  • Semi-Final, Round 2: Beat X-Terminator (12-0)
  • Grand Final, Eliminator: Lost to Rapid (0-11)
Votes for Carbide
  1. To be honest, I think Carbide has been harshly done by there, but at least it can end its title defense with an exhibition match tearing the last Preboot champion apart. Jimlaad43(talk) 23:34, February 5, 2020 (UTC)
  2. It isn't often that Typhoon 2 is the less potent spinner in a 1v1, but Carbide is far too much for it. Considering Kan-Opener could pierce the armour in Extreme 2, Carbide will have no trouble causing visible damage to the Series 7 champions. 4th place is great for Typhoon 2, but now I need to sleep on the title fight... SFCJack (talk) 00:35, February 6, 2020 (UTC)
  3. The first hit from Carbide is going to overwhelm Typhoon 2's lower base area, and cause it to be a crippled machine within the opening 10 seconds. NJGW (talk) 01:28, February 6, 2020 (UTC)
  4. I am both bewildered and amazed that Carbide has been taken out by the narrowest of margins, but it'll still pick up a third place win by shattering Typhoon 2's shell. Such a shame that Typhoon 2 is curbstomped no matter what, but its still amazing that a preboot 'bot makes it to the Top 4 nonetheless. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 01:38, February 6, 2020 (UTC)
  5. Wow, Carbide actually lost that?! Well, I was destined for fourth place no matter what so at least it'll be a destructive match here.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 06:42, February 6, 2020 (UTC)
  6. Typhoon had lost this before the final ever started. CrashBash (talk) 07:15, February 6, 2020 (UTC)
  7. Slightly gutted that Carbide lost, but happy it was a Judges' decision. Carbide will destroy Typhoon 2 here. Typhoon was destined for fourth as soon as it qualified. Adster1005 07:30, February 6, 2020 (UTC)
  8. Well, here we are. It's a weird position that I didn't think we could be in. Sure, I figured Eruption would pick up a few votes, but enough to win? Evidently I should've tried a bit harder with my vote. I think it's been written off just how much Carbide's blade was struggling in the title fight of Series 10, Dave and Sam mentioned their weapon issues in the booth less than a minute into the fight, which is less time than it took for, say, Carbide to KO Eruption in their previous title fight. That's not normal for Carbide in any circumstance. Yes the blade was still turning at the end of the fight, but that in itself was a problem, as the team couldn't turn the blade off following the fight, and the inclusion of House Robots in the arena is the only thing that stopped us from having another "Invader moment" where the robot couldn't be turned off. I don't think we can entirely credit Eruption for this weapon damage - I'm simply led to believe that Carbide was ailing from the outset, in a bit of a one-off that wouldn't happen again unless we were deep into the tournament. Now of course, we were very deep into this Ragnabot tournament, which is why I can somewhat accept Eruption winning. I just have to subscribe to the thought that we temporarily abolished the No Lasting Damage rule, as I just don't think an Eruption win is feasible without it. But hey, Carbide is out, and settles for third place. Unless... the No Lasting Damage Rule is still out of the picture following Carbide's defeat to Eruption, and thus it enters the arena against Typhoon 2 with barely a weapon to speak of, allowing the Scottish machine repeats its famous victory over Megabyte?? I obviously can't commit to this, but it's strangely viable if Carbide was still ailing. TOAST 11:12, February 6, 2020 (UTC)
  9. What happens when SpaceManiac888 changes his vote at the last moment. :P Carbide to take out its frustration on Typhoon 2, where some good hits will take out Typhoon 2's weapon belts, enabling the Series 9 champion to control the battle from there. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 13:14, February 6, 2020 (UTC)
  10. Carbide has over ten years' worth of development and a higher weight limit allowing for better armour in its favour; it will make like work of this... Hogwild94 (talk) 18:34, February 6, 2020 (UTC)
  11. I had a look at the Robogames fight between Typhoon 2 and Megabyte to see how well Typhoon 2 could take a hit, and the answer was 'not well'... One big hit, Megabyte keeps spinning but stops moving, Typhoon 2 stops spinning but keeps limping around the arena- and that single hit caused it to withdraw from the next fight. I don't know how Carbide's power compares to Megabyte, but I don't think Typhoon 2's making it out of the arena in one piece. Combatwombat555 (talk) 19:10, February 6, 2020 (UTC)
  12. Given the extent of the damage inflicted to it by pre-KOB Megabyte, I can't see Typhoon 2 surviving long under the trance of the death hum. Now here's a question... has any robot ever finished in all top three places before? VulcansHowl 22:11, February 6, 2020 (UTC)
  13. Typhoon 2’s end is, sadly, quite a violent one for it. Edinburgh’s Air Cadets to be inspired to build an even more powerful spinner than Typhoon 2 by this crushing defeat... Raz3r(talk) 20:07, February 7, 2020 (UTC)
Votes for Typhoon 2
Winner: Carbide (13-0)

Grand FinalEdit

Rapid vs EruptionEdit

Rapid Eruption
RAPID
Eruption S10
Road to the Semi-Finals
  • Heat, Round 1: Beat Snookums (10-0)
  • Heat, Round 2: Beat Marauder (9-0)
  • Heat, Round 3: Beat The Bat (12-0)
  • Melees: Qualified over √3 with Behemoth (0-1-10)
  • Quarter-Final, Round 1: Beat Sabretooth (10) (8-8, 2-1 Judges Decision)
  • Quarter-Final, Round 2: Beat Cherub (11-0)
  • Semi-Final, Round 1: Beat Rosie the Riveter 2 (13-0)
  • Semi-Final, Round 2: Beat Hypno-Disc (13-0)
  • Grand Final, Eliminator: Beat Typhoon 2 (11-0)
Road to the Semi-Finals
  • Heat, Round 1: Beat Or Te (9-0)
  • Heat, Round 2: Beat Tornado (12-1)
  • Heat, Round 3: Beat Robochicken (13-0)
  • Melees: Qualified over Hard (Loanerbot) with Twister (Dutch) (7) (0-0-13)
  • Quarter-Final, Round 1: Beat M.R. Speed Squared (13-0)
  • Quarter-Final, Round 2: Beat Gabriel 2 (12-1)
  • Semi-Final, Round 1: Beat Tough As Nails (11-1)
  • Semi-Final, Round 2: Beat Apollo (11-1)
  • Grand Final, Eliminator: Beat Carbide (8-8) 2-1 Judges' Decision
Votes for Rapid
  1. Last time these two fought I was firmly on team Rapid, and I can't fault my reasoning from before. Rapid has this 1-on-1. One of Rapid's biggest criticisms in Series 10 was its major strength - tactical genius. Why waste your CO2 when you can get the Floor Flipper or House Robots to do the flipping? The battle between these in the final wasn't representative because Magnetar caused all the issues for Rapid. Rapid's slow flipper closing time will not help it, but we have seen that Eruption can lose flipper power, so once that happen, Rapid can either flip it over with the spare CO2 it has kept, or just push it around and into the pit. I'd trust Rapid to win the battle of the ground clearances at the front more times than not. Jimlaad43(talk) 23:34, February 5, 2020 (UTC)
  2. Yeah, as in Audited S10, I think Rapid can take this too. I'll be surprised if Rapid gets more than 4 votes, but for the title fight it's worth going all out for. For me, Eruption's front panels either side of the flipper arm hurt it too much in close-quarters. They're big, chunky things that a weaponless Magnetar had joy pushing against, and even the much-maligned wedge of a weaponless S10 Terrorhurtz pushed back against. They're big weaponless areas on Eruption that force Michael Oates to retreat and readjust in order to stop a machine getting purchase on Eruption. Eruption's front pods causing it further issues is also highlighted in the very first interaction between these two in the Grand Final Group Battle where Rapid prises underneath Eruption, and Rapid's wide flipper mixed with Eruption's front pods helps knock Eruption's front upwards, and then Michael Oates is again forced to reverse in order to stop Rapid getting purchase on the side pods while also trying to readjust to point his flipper arm towards Rapid again. And this is the type of interaction I see happening a lot: where Eruption gets prised underneath, and then has to retreat to readjust and cover for its front pods, which allows Rapid to move forwards and continue to make Eruption do its awkward readjusting/turning style. It is also hard for Eruption to carry out opportunist flips on the flanks of Rapid, due to Rapid's blocky shape, mixed with Eruption's steep flipper arm which hurts Eruption's ability to scoop far underneath a machine's body before flipping. Rapid, on the other hand, has a shallow wedge, and is able to slide underneath Eruption slightly before making a flip. Don't get me wrong, this will be a super tight fight, and Eruption's patience across a 3-minute fight can win it this. But I think the designs of both machines are set up for Rapid to smother and nag Eruption, and the way Eruption will readjust and awkwardly retreat more than Rapid will hurt it in Aggression - even if the overall flip count achieved from both machines ends up virtually identical. Nevertheless, no matter what happens here, it's been another fun ride, and fair play to whoever takes the title home! NJGW (talk) 01:26, February 6, 2020 (UTC)
  3. I back RAPID. NJGW has done a lot of the talking for me, but my points back in Audited Series 10 still stand. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 13:14, February 6, 2020 (UTC)
Votes for Eruption
  1. We have two very tactical minds going at it here. If you've seen my list of Top 18 Title Fights, you know I enjoy that in a battle, especially a title fight. I can understand all the reasons for voting for Rapid, I really can. But there's one thing I really can't ignore...how easy it was for Rapid's weapon to just snap. I'm not convinced it was Magnetar's weapon that caused the bungee cord to break, it felt like it was just Rapid's own power. All I'm saying is, the minute that happens, Eruption has the fight pretty much sewn up. CrashBash (talk) 07:14, February 6, 2020 (UTC)
  2. Two very controlled, skilled roboteers for this the Grand Final of Ragnabot 3. Both machines are equally likely to get the same amount of flips in. Eruption might get a flip in whilst RAPID's flipper is open, and if it goes over, it'll end with it's flipper split open, like in the Series 10* Grand Final. I mean, that is unlikely to happen. I do see this going to the judges, and Eruption just edging put RAPID in one of the closest judges decisions of all time. Adster1005 08:10, February 6, 2020 (UTC)
  3. A tough battle but rewatching and looking through the Grand Final footage I have faith in Eruption here. Rapid is indeed powerful but it seems it didn't like to be flipped over whether that's from a spinner or a flipper. Rapid being flipped over causes it to self right, which either will result in the flipper having problems (i.e. breaking as mentioned above) or being open for a period of time, a period of time which will result in Eruption taking advantage and causing more problems. I also think in the event that eruption is caught by Rapid's wedge/flipper, Eruption's back wheels can allow it to back away to survive the flip or bait Rapid perhaps? I just feel Eruption has the better shape and flipper for this battle.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 10:44, February 6, 2020 (UTC)
  4. Alright! It's cool that the title fight here genuinely has some level of debate, the Carbide vs Eruption clash probably would've been the most appropriate title bout, but here I confidently back Eruption. Throughout Robot Wars, a lot of people have given credit to RAPID's wedge which I feel is sometimes undeserved. Certainly the team had a lot of belief in their own wedge, and a lot of thought went into the idea of two sharpened plates resting on either side of a slightly raised flipper which is harder to damage. Sadly though, there is a reason only RAPID uses this kind of wedge system. While the central wedge of RAPID is still plenty good enough to breach most robots it comes across, the slightly raised centre makes it easy pickings for thinner flippers like Eruption in a head-to-head clash. Even if we do presume RAPID can use the lowest point of the wedge at the sides, I would still back Eruption to be lower on the principle of downforce, which remains an underutilised topic in our fantasy battles. Of course I understand why, downforce was never touched upon through the show and I had to learn about it from Adam, but as soon as it's explained, something clicks and you simply think "that should've been obvious all along". Downforce refers to the amount of weight (or other pressures) that pushes the robot's wedge into the floor, and while RAPID is quite level on its four-wheel drive and weight distributed more to the back end, Eruption has much more downforce with its steeper front moving the weight of the two-wheel drive machine further forward. The sharpness of Eruption's flipper in combination with its heavy downforce from the frontal weight distribution is exactly why Eruption had one of the show's very best wedges. Now I'm of course not suggesting that RAPID cannot get under Eruption, of course it can do so from a side-on attack, just as Nick has proven. However, expecting RAPID to flip unless it's fully underneath and primed to make a meaningful attack is asking too much. The recurring issue of RAPID's slow flipper retraction is a massive deal here when faced with something that self-rights as quickly as Eruption. If RAPID carries out any flip that doesn't lead to an OotA, then it's automatically put at a disadvantage where it is forced to flee from a counterattack. Eruption, meanwhile, can flip to its heart's content, and will have an easier time doing so thanks to its superior wedge. As Crash mentions, RAPID's snapped bungee is just another issue which applies to RAPID but never affected Eruption. Even when RAPID doesn't break its bungees, it still self-rights like a modern-day Mute due to its lack of the standard low-pressure self-righting seen in Eruption, Apollo and all the others. To win this, RAPID must get an OotA or play a perfect game, otherwise Eruption just wins due to its higher number of flips, or a KO victory of its own via OotA or bungee breakage from RAPID. There's a reason why Eruption continues to dominate the flippers of the live circuit in this post-Robot Wars era whilst RAPID's appearances on the live circuit were a bit of a flop. RAPID is simply at a disadvantage against other flippers because the spread out wedges, low downforce, slow self-righting, vulnerable bungees and general low weapon usage all adds up, which we saw in RAPID's loss to none other than Eruption itself. Magnetar may have changed the battle strategy and damaged both machines, but Eruption still landed the killer flip on RAPID at the end of the day. I don't deny that RAPID would win one, two, maybe three matches out of ten, but the majority of matches must go to the safe pick, and the new Ragnabot champion, Eruption. TOAST 11:15, February 6, 2020 (UTC)
  5. Wow, glad this isn't as one sided as I thought it would be. Must side with Eruption though, its just too slippery, harder to flip itself, whereas Rapid has more body to latch onto and flip. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:35, February 6, 2020 (UTC)
  6. My big concern with Rapid is that it doesn't seem like it can self-right effectively- not consistently, anyway. In the 3 times it was made to self-right across Series 9 and 10, it managed it once, and then only after doing a full flip. Eruption just self-rights far more consistently and uses less gas to do so, and in a fight with two very tactical drivers in which there's, surprisingly, unlikely to be an OotA, that'll likely decide it. Combatwombat555 (talk) 19:59, February 6, 2020 (UTC)
  7. Rapid has the more ideal wedge shape, certainly, and at least succeeded in getting underneath Eruption a few times in their Grand Final Group Battle. However, it also showed itself in the same battle to be susceptible to overflips, which proved especially costly when it tried to throw Eruption and ended up breaking its own bungee instead. Eruption's attentive driving was key to preventing it from getting flipped, and a few precise flips of its own will no doubt exacerbate Rapid's notorious self-righting issues. Chances are, Team RPD's machine will end up lying on the floor with its flipper wide open, while Eruption celebrates a colourful and hard-fought Ragnabot title. VulcansHowl 22:11, February 6, 2020 (UTC)
  8. In the end, what seals the overall victory for Eruption is that RAPID is prone to blowing up if it gets caught off guard and flipped over. RAPID's design is better, sure, but Eruption is just far more wedgy and has a more explosive fighting style to it that RAPID simply doesn't have a lot of. If Eruption can get a few flips, on RAPID, one of the self-righting attempts will break off the bungee cords on RAPID and once that happens, Eruption just needs to get a successful throw to end the fight and end Ragnabot 3 for good. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 19:48, February 7, 2020 (UTC)
  9. It hasn’t been an easy journey to the crown for Eruption, and this fight will prove tricky too. Rapid’s wedges were shown to be capable of breaching Eruption pretty easily, and I can see Rapid getting some flips in over the course of the fight. However, against a robot as quick to self-right as Eruption and with such a long time to take closing its flipper, Rapid will be vulnerable to follow up attacks, regardless of if it makes a mistake or not with its attacks. Eruption, on the other hand, has a lower front and a more reliable flipper, while control seems quite even to me. I’d like to take time to say how much I enjoyed the melees and quarter finals in particular of Ragnabot 3. The heats did feel a bit dragged out to me, but it was all worth it for the hugely entertaining melees alone. I’m not going to lie, I was concerned a melee format wouldn’t work, but I was clearly proven wrong. Eruption would not be the champion of my choice if I’d had my way, but it remains a well deserving champion nevertheless, and should we have a Ragnabot 4, I’ll be curious to see if anyone can possibly topple it if Carbide could not. Maybe I should have backed Magnetar instead of Carbide... Raz3r(talk) 20:15, February 7, 2020 (UTC)
    Perhaps we make round 1 of Ragnabot 4 a load of 4-way melees with 2 winners. That would spice the heats up a bit. Jimlaad43(talk) 20:30, February 7, 2020 (UTC)
    Then again, what would we even do for Ragnabot 4? Every single version of every robot regardless of how similar they may be? CrashBash (talk) 20:52, February 7, 2020 (UTC)
    I would argue that unless we get a new series soon, Ragnabot 4 shouldn't happen for another 4-5 years. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 20:54, February 7, 2020 (UTC)
    Ragnabot has established itself as Tri-Ennial, so we have time to wait and decide. Jimlaad43(talk) 22:51, February 7, 2020 (UTC)
  10. Eruption's definitely gone about this the hard way, having to see off no less than three champions in its road to the final. While RAPID may be the more offensive wedge, I don't trust it to take advantage of Eruption's angular front. RAPID's inconsistency in self-righting has also really swung this for me, as Eruption will recover considerably quicker from RAPID's attacks than vice versa. If they do start Muting around the arena, Michael Oates can absolutely turn the screw in this fight. Congratulations Eruption and also to RAPID for getting this far! SFCJack (talk) 12:15, February 8, 2020 (UTC)
Winner: Eruption (3-10)

PlacingsEdit

Ragnabot Grand Champion - EruptionEdit

Eruption
Eruption S10
  • Heat, Round 1: Beat Or Te (9-0)
  • Heat, Round 2: Beat Tornado (12-1)
  • Heat, Round 3: Beat Robochicken (13-0)
  • Melees: Qualified over Hard (Loanerbot) with Twister (Dutch) (7) (0-0-13)
  • Quarter-Final, Round 1: Beat M.R. Speed Squared (13-0)
  • Quarter-Final, Round 2: Beat Gabriel 2 (12-1)
  • Semi-Final, Round 1: Beat Tough As Nails (11-1)
  • Semi-Final, Round 2: Beat Apollo (11-1)
  • Grand Final, Eliminator: Beat Carbide (8-8) 2-1 Judges' Decision
  • Grand Final: Beat Rapid (10-3)

Votes for: 112
Votes against: 15
Positive vote percentage: 88.19%

Runner-Up - RapidEdit

Rapid
RAPID
  • Heat, Round 1: Beat Snookums (10-0)
  • Heat, Round 2: Beat Marauder (9-0)
  • Heat, Round 3: Beat The Bat (12-0)
  • Melees: Qualified over √3 with Behemoth (0-1-10)
  • Quarter-Final, Round 1: Beat Sabretooth (10) (8-8, 2-1 Judges Decision)
  • Quarter-Final, Round 2: Beat Cherub (11-0)
  • Semi-Final, Round 1: Beat Rosie the Riveter 2 (13-0)
  • Semi-Final, Round 2: Beat Hypno-Disc (13-0)
  • Grand Final, Eliminator: Beat Typhoon 2 (11-0)
  • Grand Final: Lost to Eruption (3-10)

Votes for: 101
Votes against: 18
Positive vote percentage: 84.87%

Third Place - CarbideEdit

Carbide
Carbide
  • Heat, Round 1: Beat Infernal Contraption (12-0)
  • Heat, Round 2: Beat The Tartan Terror (12-0)
  • Heat, Round 3: Beat Mechadroid (9-0)
  • Melees: Qualified over Botwork with Wild Thing (0-0-12)
  • Quarter-Final, Round 1: Beat The Swarm (13-0)
  • Quarter-Final, Round 2: Beat Cedric Slammer (13-0)
  • Semi-Final, Round 1: Beat Magnetar (7-6)
  • Semi-Final, Round 2: Beat Big Nipper (9-4)
  • Grand Final, Eliminator: Lost to Eruption (8-8) 1-2 Judges' Decision
  • Grand Final, 3rd Place Playoff: Beat Typhoon 2 (13-0)

Votes for: 105
Votes against: 18
Positive vote percentage: 85.37%

Fourth Place - Typhoon 2Edit

Typhoon 2
Typhoon 2
  • Heat, Round 1: Beat Stinger (12-2)
  • Heat, Round 2: Beat Chompalot (13-0)
  • Heat, Round 3: Beat Cassius (14-0)
  • Melees: Qualified over Leveller 2 with Storm 2 (2-0-11)
  • Quarter-Final, Round 1: Beat Pinser (12-0)
  • Quarter-Final, Round 2: Beat Texas Tornado (11-0)
  • Semi-Final, Round 1: Beat Manta (11-1)
  • Semi-Final, Round 2: Beat X-Terminator (12-0)
  • Grand Final, Eliminator: Lost to Rapid (0-11)
  • Grand Final, 3rd Place Playoff: Lost to Carbide (0-13)

Votes for: 96
Votes against: 29
Positive vote percentage: 76.80%

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