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Round 1Edit

Rattus Rattus vs UltorEdit

Rattus Rattus Ultor
Rattus Rattus
Ultor official image
Votes for Rattus Rattus
  1. Rattus Rattus was extremely good it its battle against S.M.I.D.S.Y. and yet for whatever reason people keep underrating it and claiming it wasn't good. First things first, Rattus Rattus was able to get underneath robots easily and was extremely speedy and aggressive. The spikes and flail tail can cause considerable damage. Ultor may have "won" a Heat but it was no darling. It's drive wasn't the best, stopping on top of hazards and actively just driving into danger (yes RR did so against Shunt also but that was once compared to three battles worth). Rattus Rattus is more aggressive, speedier and should cause major damage with the spikes.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 17:28, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  2. Yeah, I'll back Rattus Rattus. It was a bit light in the weapons area- I don't see the flail doing much damage at all- but it was fast and aggressive against S.M.I.D.S.Y., far more than Ultor showed in any of its fights, and it should be able to control the battle and get some good rams in with the spikes. Combatwombat555 (talk) 19:17, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  3. I'll give Rattus Rattus the benefit. It's shell came off, but that was due to a very broad drive into Dead Metal. When it was ramming a robot of its own weight class, the shell was fine. I don't see Ultor making any inroads with that axe, and that coupled with Ultor's general tentative nature means that I'll give this one to Rattus Rattus with the more aggressive drives. NJGW (talk) 12:10, October 13, 2019 (UTC)
  4. Overall, I feel that the light taps from Ultor's axe will not score enough damage and aggression points to sway the judges. I believe that as long as Rattus Rattus avoids driving into the flames or CPZ, its relentless slams and pushes will cause all sorts of problems for Ultor. Ultimately, I will give it the benefit of the doubt here. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 12:49, October 13, 2019 (UTC)
Votes for Ultor
  1. Ultor will get underneath Rattus Rattus's ground clearance to push it, and can use its axe to cause damage to the rat. Jimlaad43(talk) 16:14, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  2. Ultor has the more usable active weapon, it should be able to tap away at the originally-yet-inaccurately-named Rattus Rattus and take the judges decision, provided Rattus Rattus doesn't destroy itself first. CrashBash (talk) 16:20, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  3. Ultor's weapon will prove to be the more decisive weapon of the lot. Doesn't help that Rattus Rattus isn't a reliable 'bot at all. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 17:17, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  4. Yeah, Rattus Rattus wasn't that bad as a pusher, but S.M.I.D.S.Y. was exactly the right sort of robot it could get under easily, Ultor will be much harder for it to do so, and I feel Ultor's axe will cause more minor damage than its spinner thing. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:41, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  5. I refuse to believe Ultor doesn't take this on damage. RR has a tap for a weapon, all the ground clearance in the world and a desk for a chassis. SFCJack (talk) 19:39, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  6. Ultor will win this on a Judges Decision, thanks to the damage from the axe and overall aggression. Adster1005 (talk) 21:31, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  7. I really considered helping the Rattus Rattus cause and wanted to vote for it, but I don't quite see it. Rattus Rattus can charge into Ultor, but without a wedge, what would that achieve other than riding up Ultor's slopes? Rattus Rattus is basically a worse Big Brother, so one moment of decision from Ultor's axe swings it for me. TOAST 13:37, October 13, 2019 (UTC)
Winner: Ultor (4-7)

Pitbull vs Bloody Murder WeaponEdit

Pitbull Bloody Murder Weapon
Pitbull mag
Votes for Pitbull
  1. Pitbull to grab, clamp and drag BMW around the arena and dump it in the pit eventually. There won't be much response from the Dutch robot. Jimlaad43(talk) 16:14, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  2. I'd vote for Bloody Murder Weapon in a heartbeat if its weapon actually functioned. With it being static in both its fight, for all we know it could travel at 1rpm. As it stands, it's essentially a great big bar for Pitbull to grab. CrashBash (talk) 16:21, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  3. The weapon troubles, or rather, lack of weapon full stop of BMW ultimately means that Pitbull will have a good time grabbing BMW's spinning cage and eventually dragging the broken carousel into the pit after a while. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 17:27, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  4. Same as the above.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 17:29, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  5. Pitbull to easily clamp hold of BMW's weapon/body and push it wherever it wants. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:41, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  6. If Bloody Murder Weapon's bloody murder weapon worked it'd have this easily, but as is Pitbull can take hold of it and do what it likes. Combatwombat555 (talk) 19:19, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  7. For those that are going to back BMW Sauber-Ferrari, please show a video of the robot with its spinner working. Then I might switch sides. For now, Pitbull to grab its opponent's static weapon, push it around a bit, before ultimately pitting it. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 19:24, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  8. I really like Bloody Murder Weapon and would love to back it against Pitbull, but I don't have a reasonable excuse. TOAST 19:37, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  9. Nothing really to add. Should be simple enough for Pitbull to control the pace of the fight if it can get a good bite on the weapon frame. SFCJack (talk) 19:45, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  10. Pitbull will grab BMW and pit it. Adster1005 (talk) 21:32, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  11. A nice shape for Pitbull to toy with. NJGW (talk) 12:11, October 13, 2019 (UTC)
Votes for Bloody Murder Weapon
Winner: Pitbull (11-0)

Expulsion (10) vs PsychosproutEdit

Expulsion (10) Psychosprout
Expulsion and Detention
Votes for Expulsion (10)
  1. Whilst I comment Jim's vote, you have to remember that the moment...the absolute moment...Psychosprout got hit by anything, even something as minor as a ram, it was unable to move again under its own power. Considering it is considerably lighter than Expulsion, just running up its opponent's front will cause it to die. Also, isn't Psychosprout made of papier-mache or something like that? CrashBash (talk) 16:23, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  2. Whilst Jim's vote is very plausible, after rewatching Psychosprout's gauntlet run, it hit some obstacles and then just stopped. The spinner of Expulsion can do the damage needed upon first impact, which should stop Psychosprout and then Expulsion will fall or push Psychosprout in the pit and then go in. Regardless, Expulsion will win, as Psychosprout will be immobilised first. Adster1005 (talk) 17:04, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  3. I think it should be Detention for Jimlaad for poor images again. Alas Expulsion was crap but at least it could move effectively and plus it has a destroy Psychosprout who was an RC monstertruck in a paper mache ball.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 17:30, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
    There wasn't a better photo of Detention to go with Expulsion. Jimlaad43(talk) 17:33, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  4. Much as I appreciate Jim for giving what is the most outlandish vote of the Arena Forums of all time, I can't see it. Expulsion is bound to get beaten if it blatantly faceplants into the floor, but Psychosprout has the exact same problem in that any hard knock will completely jostle the RC car inside and disable Psychosprout. Add to that that Psychosprout is made out of papier-mache, and Psychosprout will disintegrate the moment Expulsion's weapon goes near the sphere. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 17:32, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  5. I'd love to back Jimlaad's vote up, but I just can't back Psychosprout's armour against a reboot spinner. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:43, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  6. On the bright side, Jimlaad's vote means that Psychosprout deserved a place in Ragnabot 3 proper. Alas, I cannot back him here, since Detention just slamming into its opponent will be enough for the knockout. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 19:24, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  7. Expulsion may not have been the most stable robot in the world and it had an unfortunate tendency to land on its face, but it didn't fall over for no reason- knocked over by Coyote, flipped by the Floor Flipper, launched by Magnetar and flipped by Matilda, but never through just its own driving about. Expulsion can absolutely mangle the fibreglass shell, and given that Psychosprout just stopped when it got nudged in its Trial that should be enough to kill it. Combatwombat555 (talk) 19:24, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  8. This doesn't even deserve a second of thought. The floor flipper is disabled in Ragnabot 3 so Expulsion has no means of being overturned. Psychosprout to get the Vanquish/HUGE treatment. TOAST 19:36, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  9. Let's not be silly. SFCJack (talk) 19:44, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  10. Agreed with this side. NJGW (talk) 12:12, October 13, 2019 (UTC)
Votes for Psychosprout
  1. Here we go. The vote I have been wanting to write for months. The most ridiculous, unbelievable and against the odds vote I have done in the arena forums so far, but boy do I mean it. Psychosprout has this against the reboot spinner. Expulsion falls over on its own for no apparent reason in every battle. It just does. I watched it manage to get itself turned over against a dead Push to Exit, this robot kills itself. I can see it getting maybe one or two hits on Psychosprout with the weapon before an optimistically tight turn causes it to fall over. The driving wasn't too great as if you knew your robot had a penchant to fall over, you wouldn't take such fast and tight turns. "But wait, you said Psychosprout would be hit". Yes I did. The papier mache will not stand up well to the disc, however, the truck inside will not be hit as it's too low for the disc. Even if a massive hole is carved out, the truck could fall out and it'll still work. Detention might be left to fight on its own once Expulsion falls over, but even if it wins, the main robot is immobilised, so it goes out. Psychosprout to beat this reboot spinner. Jimlaad43(talk) 16:14, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
Winner: Expulsion (10) (10-1)

6 Million Dollar Mouse vs ArakniaEdit

6 Million Dollar Mouse Araknia
6 Million Dollar Mouse
Votes for 6 Million Dollar Mouse
  1. Two robots with similarly sized and mounted weapons here. When the weapons hit their opponent, USD6M Mouse is going to be the one which causes more damage, as Araknia's carbon fibre and fibreglass won't survive many hits. Jimlaad43(talk) 16:14, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  2. Whilst it's hard to say how deadly the Mouse's blade was, fairly sure it can break cardboard. CrashBash (talk) 16:24, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  3. Araknia won't last long, 6 Million Dollar Mouse will do enough damage and be more aggressive to take the win. Adster1005 (talk) 17:05, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  4. Araknia will be sliced to pieces in the most literal of senses. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 17:26, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  5. don't have glasses right? That image is cropped and extremely poor quality compared to the pits image, this makes absolute no sense. Anyways, 6MdM may have a poor blade but at least it could survived and deal more "damage" :P Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 17:35, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
    This whole image drama is getting annoying, tbh. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 18:04, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
    It is. I did warn you and this the first unwarranted image complaint since then, including an insult which was completely unnecessary. Please do not vote in the rest of this heat Diotoir. Jimlaad43(talk) 18:54, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  6. Both robots' spinners will cause damage to the other's armour, Araknia's armour will take more though. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:44, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  7. Similar weapons, but 6 Million Dollar Mouse outlasted fragile opponents like Sobek before. Araknia probably will not survive the hits. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 19:24, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  8. $6,000,000 Mouse's weapon actually caused some damage, and should be able to rip up Araknia's 'armour' nicely. Combatwombat555 (talk) 19:26, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  9. Both spinners are about as atrong as each other, but 6 Million Dollar Mouse has more solid fundamentals in the other departments. TOAST 19:39, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  10. 6MDM is essentially Araknia if Araknia wasn't bottom tier. There's no way it doesn't take this fight unless it is to break down. But that logic can be applied to support anyone beating anyone, so I'm not going there. SFCJack (talk) 19:49, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  11. SMDM's better body will allow its bar to inflict the more-telling damage. NJGW (talk) 12:13, October 13, 2019 (UTC)
Votes for Araknia
Winner: 6 Million Dollar Mouse (11-0)

Diotoir (5) vs Thor's HammerEdit

Diotoir (5) Thor's Hammer
Diotoir s5
Thorshammer RWEWS2
Votes for Diotoir (5)
  1. Thor's Hammer is so small and light, Diotoir should be able to push it around without breaking into a sweat/bursting into flames. One simple overflip or pitting later... Jimlaad43(talk) 16:14, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  2. I now want to see Diotoir 2 fight 6 Million Dollar Mouse. CrashBash (talk) 16:25, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  3. Diotoir will overturn Thor's Hammer, or pit it. Adster1005 (talk) 17:07, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  4. A good flip followed by a pitting is on the cards. I'm assuming Thor's Hammer can self-right at least, so I'm not ready to call a one-flip-and-done, but this mismatch will leave Diotoir as the superior one. Imagine if another Diotoir made it into the QQF's... --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 17:15, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  5. Yeah flip and done.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 17:35, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  6. Revival Thor, or maybe even original series Thor, then Diotoir would be toast(ed), but not its American cousin. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:45, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  7. Thor's Hammer has nowhere near enough power in the weapon to trouble Diotoir. Repeated flips (if necessary) on the middleweight machine should see Diotoir through comfortably. Combatwombat555 (talk) 19:29, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  8. I really appreciate the sentiment in voting fot Thor's Hammer, but we simply can't take axe power for granted. Even in 2019, we still see the likes of Extinguisher and Ultimo Destructo turning up with useless axes. Without seeing Thor's Hammer swing, I can't assumenany power from it, especially on such a light machine. TOAST 19:42, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  9. As much as Diotoir was labelled a comedy entrant, it wasn't a low tier bot. Unlikely to a measly middleweight in Thor's Hammer, if you ask me. SFCJack (talk) 19:53, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  10. An upscaled Thor's Hammer maybe. But I didn't see the Middleweight's capabilities before it was KO'd so I won't be able to stretch my mind much further. NJGW (talk) 12:14, October 13, 2019 (UTC)
Votes for Thor's Hammer
  1. You know what, I will back the upset here. OK, so Diotoir did seemingly dominate better overhead machines like The Steel Avenger, right? Well, upon re-watching that battle, while its flips were impressive, I happen to note that The Steel Avenger really was not targeting Diotoir for the most part. Rather, it was trying to assist Suicidal Tendencies against Pussycat, and when it was attacking Diotoir directly, the furball had a bit of trouble coping with the slams. Now, Thor's Hammer's main weakness here is its lightweight. But, it can be said that not only is Thor Hammer's more agile and with a better shape to attack its opponent than The Steel Avenger, but also with only one opponent to strike, it should have an easier time than Steely did. Diotoir is a good robot, granted. However, its slow speed, plus the fact that its bucket scoop was slow to reload (and sometimes jammed) will leave it somewhat vulnerable. I have also never really trusted Diotoir to survived pounding from overhead weapons, and chances are the weak armour and weapons are going to suffer here. Thor's Hammer I trust to self-right to, so as long as it can exploit its opponent's flanks and prevent it from using its lifter effectively, I see it pulling off the upset, winning via a judges' decision. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 19:13, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
Winner: Diotoir (5) (10-1)

Hoot vs VaderEdit

Hoot Vader
Vader 7
Votes for Hoot Votes for Vader
  1. Hoot to charge in blindly and die braver than most as Vader chops it up into tiny pieces. Jimlaad43(talk) 16:14, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  2. Hoot is potentially one of the worst robots, loanerbot or otherwise, to ever exist. Let me put it this way...there was a reason why, when I did Audited Nickelodeon, I had The Piecemaker compete and not Hoot, despite the weight disadvantage otherwise. CrashBash (talk) 16:26, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
    Hoot vs The Green Mouse. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 19:26, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
    I'd sooner vote in Barry vs Foxic vs Wowot. At least in THAT fight I could confidently pick a winner. CrashBash (talk) 20:11, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  3. Vader's the only 'bot here thus far that's guaranteed a place in the QQF's. Hoot will be demolished. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 17:21, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  4. HAHAHHA!Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 17:35, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  5. The damage Vader will do here will be a hoot! (That's very laboured, I agree) Hogwild94 (talk) 18:47, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  6. Hoot's weapon did no damage at all in any of its opponents. Vader's weapon took out Aggrobot in one blow. Yep, no contest here. A shame though that Anakin's sacrifice nows means nothing in current canon. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 19:24, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  7. One good hit from Vader should knock Hoot over. Combatwombat555 (talk) 19:30, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  8. I don't agree with Vader being the best robot in this half of the heat, but I do agree with it winning this fight. TOAST 19:43, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
    Clearly the best robot here is former heat finalist The Tartan Terror. Jimlaad43(talk) 02:13, October 13, 2019 (UTC)
  9. Vader to take Hoot out with a swift uppercut. Shouldn't be any more complicated than that. SFCJack (talk) 20:00, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  10. In the animal food chain, Vader is the owl and Hoot is the rodent that's about to be devoured. VulcansHowl 20:45, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  11. Vader will shred Hoot. Adster1005 (talk) 21:33, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  12. Vader through. NJGW (talk) 12:15, October 13, 2019 (UTC)
Winner: Vader (0-12)

WYSIWYG vs BackstabberEdit

WYSIWYG Backstabber
Votes for WYSIWYG
  1. Forgive me for going with the weird route, but at least WYSIWIG was able to move freely across the arena despite being an eighth the weight of its opponent. Backstabber, meanwhile, moved for about 5 seconds and died without any pressure whatsoever, which is extremely worrying. WYSIWIG will win after it just rams and bounces off of Backstabber until the tall 'bot eventually dies for no reason. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 17:25, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  2. Y'know I kinda agree. WYSIWYG was able to whizz around the heavier Steel at Work and smashed into it before that died and Backstabber, unless it can somehow slide underneath and tip WYSIWYG over, has nothing...even then looking at the Steel at Work battle, it didn't slip up easily and had very low ground clearance so yeah. Not to mention the exposed wheels that can be damaged by the sharp wedge...yeah.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 17:42, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  3. WYSIWYG was the best of the three stockbots, I think it might just be able to get underneath and topple Backstabber over. Hogwild94 (talk) 18:48, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  4. You know, I actually agree with Hogwild regarding WYSIWYG being the best of the trio. It was quick, had a very low ground clearance for the time, and I honestly feel that it could have made the heat final if it had been allowed to. Backstabber, despite having a decent anti-Razer shape, was unimpressive to say the least, seemingly dying under mild pressure and with an axe that can be easily dodged by most opponents. Not sure whether WYSIWYG will topple its opponent, but it can still wedge underneath and push somewhat. This will be the mild pressure needed to secure a knockout. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 19:16, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  5. As usual, I'll back the robot over the one which had a very soft breakdown. NJGW (talk) 12:16, October 13, 2019 (UTC)
  6. What you see is WYSIWYG running rings around Backstabber, pushing it into the House Robots and other hazards, and what you get is Backstabber eventually being pitted. Adster1005 (talk) 12:37, October 13, 2019 (UTC)
Votes for Backstabber
  1. Backstabber's axe will do nothing here, but I just can't see the 10kg of WYSIWYG being able to do enough to Backstabber. It has the wedge advantage but that's it. Backstabber can shove the stock robot into something dangerous. Jimlaad43(talk) 16:14, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  2. I'm imagining WYSIWYG getting axed by Shunt and then getting stuck on said axe for the rest of the fight. Think Banshee's head but the whole thing, and it's not coming off. CrashBash (talk) 16:27, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  3. Backstabber 7.5x the weight here, and shouldn't really be falling to the 10kg WYSIWYG. Let's not forget Backstabber's only cameo was future 1WC winner Razer. Can't see the axe doing much, but I feel there's every chance WYSIWYG can run up those steep sloped sides of Backstabber. Providing they can stay alive, it's their fight to lose for me. SFCJack (talk) 20:07, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  4. Backstabber's wedge was quite low for Series 3, so as long as it doesn't break down again, it should escape this one. Concerning that I considered voting for a 10kg featherweight though, and I kinda hope more people do. Will WYSIWYG collect a vote against Expulsion? TOAST 20:37, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
Winner: WYSIWYG (6-4)

The Tartan Terror vs Gi-Ant-O (E2)Edit

The Tartan Terror Gi-Ant-O (E2)
The Tartan Terror
Votes for The Tartan Terror
  1. Oh dear god, Tartan Terror is going to win another battle here. Surely it can't reach the Heat Final again. Surely...right? Jimlaad43(talk) 16:14, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  2. I's a rather mismash heat. We need a big name in the next half. CrashBash (talk) 16:28, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  3. IT BEGINS. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 17:13, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  4. I keep thinking that's an antweight, just by looking at it. I mean what else can I say?Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 17:37, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  5. Don't bring a featherweight into the Arena in a predominantly heavyweight tournament! Even if it is against Tartan Terror! Hogwild94 (talk) 18:49, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  6. I think The Tartan Terror can just about get a win here, considering both machines were super unreliable but the barrel machine is the heavier. But I need to ask this: I thought we were meant to be replacing Extreme 2 Gi-Ant-O with either Dutch Scarab or Piece De Resistance? If not, who are the two robots that are going to be replaced? SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 19:03, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
    We decided against it when it was pointed out that the Spartacus I nominated was actually the lighter weight on (can't remember which). As I still can't find a second robot to remove, I gave up. Seeing as Gi-Ant-O has now fought, that ship has sailed and we have 802 competitors (unless we find another robot I forgot to include). Jimlaad43(talk) 19:23, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  7. Gi-Ant-O would lose to most beetleweights. Combatwombat555 (talk) 19:35, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  8. I'm sure this match would give us all a Giant "Oh." TOAST 19:44, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  9. TTT to swat Gi-Ant O away with their... stick thing. Sure, let's go with that. SFCJack (talk) 20:08, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
  10. TTT to win here through the pit. Adster1005 (talk) 21:59, October 12, 2019 (UTC)
Votes for Gi-Ant-O (E2)
Winner: The Tartan Terror (10-0)

Glitterbomb vs MantaEdit

Glitterbomb Manta
Votes for Glitterbomb
  1. Manta didn't get much damage against General Chompsalot, and Glitterbomb is armoured in Raex. It takes a lot for me to vote preboot spinners against reboot armour, and Manta's little spinner isn't going to do it. Manta is meanwhile a big flat surface which Glitterbomb can hit with its 1.2 tonne hammer for key aggression points. I won't give Manta the benefit of the doubt with the pit because we haven't agreed on a system about the doom dial. Glitterbomb to win a judges decision. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 08:05, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
    Yeah we have, the pit release button only opens the pit. Rogue House Robot and Fog of War are too random and non-tactical that they aren't being used. Press the button and the pit opens. Jimlaad43(talk) 08:18, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
    It was in fact one of the earliest things to be established as seen here and also is mentioned right at the top of the Ragnabot basepage. CrashBash (talk) 10:42, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  2. Glitterbomb and Edge Hog in the same heat, huh? Could be interesting. Anyhow, I back Glitterbomb here, because its low ground clearance and armour will nullify Manta's most impressive attributes. With such a high ground clearance, I feel that Manta will generally become beached on Glitterbomb's wedge, allowing the pink machine the chance to not only axe the top of its opponent, but also push it around into hazards like the CPZ. I doubt Manta's spinner will cause much damage in return, and attempts to push will just result in Manta, with its high ground clearance, getting stuck on its opponent. Glitterbomb to win the judges' decision. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 08:24, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  3. Up against laser-cut Raex, Manta's blade is unlikely to deal Tauron-levels of damage to Glitterbomb's hull. It can push the neon-pink machine around, but Glitterbomb has an effective wedge for getting underneath and pushing it back in return. Plus, it has an axe which is more than capable of emphasising aggression should both machines survive to the Judges. Given that Manta struggled against robots with wedges, lifters or equal drive muscle, I think it's going to struggle here. VulcansHowl 09:56, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  4. This is a toughie. Manta's clearly no mug, but Glitterbomb isn't exactly fragile. I'd be more willing to bet on Glitterbomb's axe doing terminal damage sooner than Manta's disc, not least because of each robot's respective shape. 20:25, October 15, 2019 (UTC)
Votes for Manta
  1. Manta will be the more aggressive of the two robots, and should push Glitterbomb from the side all over the arena, nipping away with the saw. Some bent panels will be counteracted by Glitterbomb's axe damaging the top of Manta in lucky hits, but these won't be enough to stop Manta and won't be frequent enough to score enough points when it goes to the judges. Jimlaad43(talk) 07:56, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  2. Glitterbomb will be disposed of by Manta without much fuss. Don't think Glitterbomb can outmuscle Manta easily, so eventually Manta will win through a swift pitting. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 08:02, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  3. Obviously Manta won't cause any damage to Glitterbomb, but I question whether Glitterbomb, with the axe head the shape it is, will cause any damage to Manta. This also assumes it can even land a decent hit...Manta certainly wasn't afraid to charge at opponents head on, but at the same time, it was still tactical with how it charged. By that same logic, it'll keep attacking Glitterbomb from the sides, thus negating the wedge argument entirely. Really, I think the bigger issue is Manta running out of battery power....but I think it'll have Glitterbomb in the pit before then. CrashBash (talk) 10:22, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  4. We can flaunt Glitterbomb's 1.2 tonne axe and Raex armour all we want, but the reverse side of the coin is that Glitterbomb's axe system was taken directly from Edge Hog, and I certainly wouldn't back Edge Hog to cause any damage to Manta. Indeed, if Glitterbomb couldn't damage Dantomkia's armour but a ram from King B Remix's spike could, then I don't think Manta's armour or internals are in any sort of danger. Of course, Manta's spinner will be useless too, but its greater speed, control and aggression should see it through. TOAST 12:01, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  5. I'll go with that. In addition, Manta's weapon might not cause any external damage, but I can see it flicking Glitterbomb up slightly and enabling Manta to both get a more effective push in and deal some damage to Glitterbomb's baseplate. Combatwombat555 (talk) 12:23, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  6. Glitterbomb never seemed settled in the arena. It opened its sides up a lot and swung around in tight areas. I think it's set up for Manta to push away at the sides. Toast also covers my thoughts on the axe. NJGW (talk) 12:28, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  7. I don't believe Glitterbomb has anything for Manta here. Modern components aside, Glitterbomb has the stats of a classic series machine (bar weight, of course) and you wouldn't back Edge Hog to beat Manta, would you? SFCJack (talk) 16:51, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  8. Manta can easily charge at Glitterbomb, get underneath and do whatever it wants after that. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:29, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  9. Manta can be more aggressive and controlled, and aggression takes more weight over the small bit of damage Glitterbomb might do. Adster1005 (talk) 19:56, October 15, 2019 (UTC)
Winner: Manta (4-9)

Ming 2 vs The MuleEdit

Ming 2 The Mule
The Mule
Votes for Ming 2
  1. Ming 2 will flip The Mule over quite quickly, before it gets a chance to randomly break down. Jimlaad43(talk) 07:56, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  2. Ming 2 adds to the one-flip-and-done count by bucking The Mule over and out of the competition. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 08:04, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  3. The Mule to be tamed. I wonder how Roger Plant would feel if the modern House Robots went to town on his machines... VulcansHowl 09:56, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  4. This must be a flip and done. CrashBash (talk) 10:23, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  5. Flip of doom. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 12:03, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  6. The Mule will be fuming, but Ming II was scheming, timing its looming weapon as it was incoming, homing and jamming the flipper under the base of the unassuming machine, seeming as though The Mule would be squirming and screaming forever, but once Andrew Cotterell had finished disarming his foe, the dimming Mule faded away, and with an alarming battle finished filming, Craig Charles met the team, affirming that the winner was Ming - but Roger Plant is claiming he wants a forthcoming vengeance battle! He was seen confirming that he was in the process of retrimming a successor that he was currently nicknaming Wheely Big Cheese, informing all that its deadly cheese wedge flipper would soon be reforming the competitive landscape, exclaiming that it would leave Ming a flaming mess. War is coming... TOAST 12:04, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  7. Relatively straightforward for Ming 2 here, its wedge was decent and it should be able to get the flip in. Combatwombat555 (talk) 12:24, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  8. lowkey, Ming 2 is going to take an uncomfortable amount of time getting a KO on a Series 2 robot. NJGW (talk) 12:29, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  9. Totally agree with Nick. Ming 2 would get the win, but it would be a painfully slow KO... if a KO at all. SFCJack (talk) 16:53, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  10. Ming won't boss The Mule as easily as Plunderbird 2 did, it may not even get a flip, but it will win somehow. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:30, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  11. A flip. Eventually, but it will be a KO. Adster1005 (talk) 19:59, October 15, 2019 (UTC)
  12. The Mule was good for Series 2, but so many robots from that age would've been so vulnerable to a flipping robot like Ming 2. Datovidny (talk) 20:25, October 15, 2019 (UTC)
Votes for The Mule
Winner: Ming 2 (12-0)

Sawpoint 2 vs MonadEdit

Sawpoint 2 Monad
Votes for Sawpoint 2
  1. Two pretty terrible robots face of here, and it's tough to choose a winner. I'm going to side with Sawpoint because its spinners might cause some visible damage to the sides of Monad, but I don't see much more than that happening in what would be a pretty dull battle. Jimlaad43(talk) 07:56, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  2. Because at least Saw Point 2 didn't fall to pieces the moment it started fighting. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 08:05, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  3. There is a difference between being deliberately terrible and accidentally terrible. This is what makes Sawpoint 2 (and A-Kill for that matter) such an underappreciated gem. CrashBash (talk) 10:24, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  4. I kind of liked A-Kill, but Sawpoint 2, especially the Series 7 version, really did not fit the theme of being an "intentionally bad machine". Heck, it even broke Ewe 2's lifter. This does not bode well for Monad, who will probably break down under mild pressure here. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 12:03, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  5. Sawpoint II was straight up a decent robot. Monad's off home. TOAST 12:06, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  6. Sawpoint 2 actually had some decent power in the discs, Monad was in danger of falling over of its own accord. Combatwombat555 (talk) 12:26, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  7. dammit, I like Monad. It isn't awful. I wanted to vote for it in a fight. But Sawpoint isn't awful itself. Shame. NJGW (talk) 12:30, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  8. Too many people remember how bad Saw Point was in the Minor Meltdown and too few people remember how decent Sawpoint 2 actually was. Seeing as we're speaking of the latter, they won't struggle against Monad. SFCJack (talk) 16:57, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  9. Even Sawpoint 2 can easily triumph over Monad one way or another. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:31, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  10. Sawpoint 2 to push Monad around the arena. Adster1005 (talk) 20:00, October 15, 2019 (UTC)
  11. Of the two, only one of these looks like it has weaponry that can do the business. Datovidny (talk) 20:25, October 15, 2019 (UTC)
Votes for Monad
Winner: Sawpoint 2 (11-0)

259 vs CrocodilotronEdit

259 Crocodilotron
259 photo
Votes for 259
  1. "Crikey, this croc is in 259 pieces. What happened to it?" Jimlaad43(talk) 07:56, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  2. The glass cannon cometh. 259's flywheel will tear into Crocodilotron and end the fight with a one-flip-and-done, though I see 259 doing a lot more damage after Croco is tipped over. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 08:06, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  3. Crocodilotron will need more than a dentist appointment after this one. VulcansHowl 09:56, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  4. So, all 259 has to do is at least do as well as its middleweight counterpart, which made the heat final. This is a good start. CrashBash (talk) 10:25, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  5. 259 can still meet Big Nipper at this rate, as CrashBash sort of hopes it will. Some good hits will overturn Crocodilotron here. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 12:03, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
    I don't really hope anything, to be fair. I think we're all well past the stage where we've realised 259 isn't the god-killer we may have thought it was way back when. CrashBash (talk) 12:45, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  6. 259 is probably more than the estimated cost of Crocodilotron in pounds. TOAST 12:27, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  7. There's absolutely nothing that Crocodilotron can do here. Combatwombat555 (talk) 12:29, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  8. oh NJGW (talk) 12:30, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  9. Crocodilotron to be torn apart into 259 pieces. SFCJack (talk) 16:58, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  10. Oh dear, this should be fun to watch for all the wrong reasons. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:32, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  11. Completely torn apart. Adster1005 (talk) 20:01, October 15, 2019 (UTC)
  12. Can 259 overturn Crocodilotron before it rips it in half? Datovidny (talk) 20:25, October 15, 2019 (UTC)
Votes for Crocodilotron
Winner: 259 (12-0)

Infernal Contraption vs CarbideEdit

Infernal Contraption Carbide
Infernal Contraption
Votes for Infernal Contraption Votes for Carbide
  1. Here comes the defending champion. Can anyone stop Carbide romping to a second Ragnabot title? I know for sure that Infernal Contraption isn't going to be the one to stop it. Jimlaad43(talk) 07:56, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  2. This draw must be some sort of cathartic joke after Infernal Contraption made it to the QF's. Carbide has basically rolled up to a heat with very few strong 'bots and will demolish everything it touches. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 08:01, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  3. If Team Carbide are anticipating an epic Gabriel-style duel, then they're going to be very disappointed. VulcansHowl 09:56, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  4. Well, someone had to draw the short straw in this heat. Now everyone else will be in panic mode. CrashBash (talk) 10:26, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  5. Shall I update the count? Your call this time around, considering Infernal Contraption's wheels were somewhat durable. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 12:03, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
    Durable against something like Sawpoint or 259, but Carbide is like the ultimate anti-durable weapon. If Cassius 2 was going to be counted against Mazakari, a robot that is 70% wheels will be undoubtedly counted by Carbide. Jimlaad43(talk) 12:12, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
    Yeah, I was joking. Of course this is a count update! Don't bring wheels into the arena count: 39. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 08:59, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  6. Big sadness. I love Infernal Contraption, so it's just typical that it would face the single most vicious Round 1 opponent imaginable. Even against Eruption, we know that it could damage the front wedge, but Carbide is a hopeless draw. At least Infernal Contraption is here at all, unlike its Series 10 version and off-shoot Point Blank. TOAST 12:30, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  7. Poor Infernal Contraption. It's always fun to see it give interesting fights, but not here. NJGW (talk) 12:31, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  8. If any of Carbide's opponents in this heat gets a single vote I will be very surprised. Combatwombat555 (talk) 12:32, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
    inb4 The Tartan Terror wins unanimously against Carbide. Jimlaad43(talk) 12:51, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  9. Yeah, this goes without saying. SFCJack (talk) 16:59, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  10. For once, they'll be no debate when it comes to judging Infernal Contraption. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:33, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  11. Will Carbide rip IC into more pieces than 259 will rip Crocodilotron? Adster1005 (talk) 20:05, October 15, 2019 (UTC)
  12. I'm still not over IC's win over Robochicken in Audited 7, so as far as I'm concerned Carbide can have this one. I don't envy any of the machines that it comes across during its run to the Grand Final. Datovidny (talk) 20:37, October 15, 2019 (UTC)
Winner: Carbide (0-12)

Mobot vs T-BoneEdit

Mobot T-Bone
T-Bone white
Votes for Mobot
  1. T-Bone hardly has weapon reliability on its side here - its weapon packed in after attacking 8645T's tyre. Speaking of: with Mobot's hit on Mighty Mouse it knocked it aside well while hitting the front of a charging Mighty Mouse - if a machine is charging into you with speed then you're going to get more of a bite in the hit so I'm not surprised the lowkey hardy Mighty Mouse stalled the weapon. T-Bone won't come in with a long, fast charge, and its body isn't blocky enough to try to stall Mobot's blade as well. T-Bone has no excuse though: it only proved that its weapon couldn't even damage a tyre. Here, with T-Bone having a lanky, protruding body frame, I think Mobot will get less bite than in the Mighty Mouse hit. That means it won't knock T-Bone aside like it did with Mighty Mouse, but it will allow for more hits to be sustained. Mobot to pull through with better, more consistent hits. NJGW (talk) 12:24, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  2. Yep, it's frankly strange to me that Mobot is being written off because a slam from Mighty Mouse disabled Mobot's bar, yet T-Bone bending its own blade simply by trying to cut into an inflatable tyre has been completely overlooked. At least Mobot bothered to lose to a seeded machine, have people just forgotten that T-Bone lost to 8645T? From the current voting majority, you'd think it won! Mobot's blade is far more likely to make an impact here, and without any tyres or vulnerable armour to target, T-Bone can't damage Mobot even if the blade survives. Mobot cuts its way through to victory with minor damage caused to the gas pipe armour and thin steel blade. TOAST 12:34, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
    Of course we haven't forgotten...I did state that T-Bone was a massive disappointment. But it lost after getting welded onto 8645T's weapon for most of the fight, which I don't see happening against Mobot. CrashBash (talk) 12:47, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
    T-Bone would've lost that fight regardless. With its disc disabled, and no wedge present, what could T-Bone have possibly done to win that fight? And indeed, what would T-Bone do to win this one if its disc bends? TOAST 12:57, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
    And what would Mobot do if the disc doesn't bend? I trust T-Bone to do more to Mobot than vise-versa, is all. CrashBash (talk) 13:03, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  3. I'm surprised by the amount of votes against Mobot here. T-Bone looked nothing special in Series 5, falling foul to 8645T. Now ironically Mobot crashed out alongside 8645T 2 in Series 7, but fell victim to future semi-finalist Thermidor 2 and never really got to show themselves off. For what it's worth, I feel a functional Mobot could cause T-Bone some problems with that undercutter. Neither has KO potential, but T-Bone's disc really wasn't up to much. SFCJack (talk) 17:12, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
Votes for T-Bone
  1. T-Bone's spinner looks like the more potent of the two and is more likely to connect with something crucial on Mobot. It should get the front or side armour to start caving in, scoring nice points in the process. Jimlaad43(talk) 07:56, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  2. Mobot's spinner looks to have very little reach which could give it a lot of problems when on the offensive. T-Bone's weapon isn't the best, but it should give it the edge on the judges'. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 08:16, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  3. Logic dictates that Mowbot could use its undercutter to slash T-Bone's tyres and earn itself an easy victory. However, considering how ponderous it was in its melee, and how it only took one slam from Mighty Mouse to disable the weapon entirely, I'm not convinced that it can make use of its much larger, more interesting and arguably more forward-thinking arsenal. T-Bone to carve up the Mobot as long as the disc keeps working. VulcansHowl 09:56, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  4. The arguments above work for me, so I'll go with that. Even if T-Bone was a massive disappointment for me. CrashBash (talk) 10:27, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  5. What really makes me vote for T-Bone is that Mobot's team had no confidence in their machine, labelling it as "cannon fodder". Since it achieved a self-fulfilling prophecy by letting Thermidor 2 throw it out of the arena, I cannot trust Mo Farah's favourite machine to really survive the blows of its opponent here. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 12:03, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  6. It's a bit disingenuous saying that T-Bone's disc stopped on hitting a tyre- according to the Roaming Robots website it hit a reinforced part of the sub-frame and one of the blades on the disc got very bent and fouled the body cut-out for the disc. Even from what was shown on screen, the disc was still visibly spinning when T-Bone backs away from 8645T, there's a cut in the edit, and suddenly the disc has stopped. Given that T-Bone also (allegedly) mangled two machines to qualify, I'll back it to cut into Mobot's weak armour and likely win on damage. Combatwombat555 (talk) 12:45, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
    I appreciate the extra info, but it doesn't quell my doubts. If T-Bone bent its disc by hitting 8645T's steel frame, then it can just as easily bend itself by hitting Mobot's steel frame. Even if T-Bone's disc does remain functional, I still don't doubt that Mobot's heavy blade is more potent. TOAST 13:03, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
    A blade that spun at all of 45mph though. It's only 5kg heavier than T-Bone's weapon, and it's significantly slower, like about half the speed. Combatwombat555 (talk) 13:15, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  7. We didn't see enough of either's spinner to get a fair idea of what it could do, but I trust T-Bone's more. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:34, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  8. I think T-Bone can do more damage, especially as Mobot was labelled as "cannon fodder" by the team, and T-Bone can also win on aggression. Adster1005 (talk) 20:07, October 15, 2019 (UTC)
  9. T-Bone could've won its battle if it wasn't grappled by Beast. Speaking of Beast, another of its opponents in Monad and whilst I admire it for looking quite unique, it looks too sluggish and the weapon potency looks limited by its reach. T-Bone on a judges' decision. Datovidny (talk) 20:37, October 15, 2019 (UTC)
Winner: T-Bone (3-9)

3 Stegs to Heaven vs DeeEdit

3 Stegs to Heaven Dee
3 stegs to heaven
Votes for 3 Stegs to Heaven
  1. Dee to be castrated Dee's wheels will be torn off. Jimlaad43(talk) 07:56, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  2. I don't think Dee's wheels will be torn off, but I think it'll still take damage. Even a faulty drive from 3 Stegs won't save Dee because lets not forget, that doesn't automatically count as immobilisation now (although it never did for 3 Stegs anyway, sooo....) and certainly if 3 Stegs keeps aiming that disc, it'll still land attacks. I'm going to say right now that, IRL, I'd guess this was a split decision (and not the nonsense BattleBots kind either), but I'd give it to the robot who actually caused some damage. CrashBash (talk) 10:29, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  3. I'll go 3 Stegs to have enough here, but only because of the Celebrity drivers and their hilariously incompetent spells at times. With Rabid M8, I'd go otherwise. NJGW (talk) 12:33, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  4. Nah, sorry, have to go for a DBWITA here. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:34, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  5. I know I voted, but I guess I'll have to make some further insight considering how close this fight has become. The main reasons why 3 Stegs has this easily is 'cause Dee really has terrible driving, but also happens to have the problem of using pneumatic bleeping tires which means that even if 3 Stegs manages to glance off any tire with its disc, there's a good chance Dee's mobility will be crippled. Yes, Dee won't take any damage to its armour, but that's not the problem - having zero control and pneumatic tires are the big issues that outright cripple Dee's chances. Makes me think that 3 Stegs is still criminally underrated after all. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 12:33, October 15, 2019 (UTC)
  6. 3 Stegs will cause some damage to the wheels, nowhere near enough for A DBWITA, but it is damage and aggression nonetheless, and will win here. Adster1005 (talk) 20:09, October 15, 2019 (UTC)
  7. Might not be a popular opinion, but I do like 3 Stegs. It's not amazing by Series 5 standards, particularly compared with where its predecessors set the bar, but that disc did have power, and if those tyres aren't vulnerable, the rest of the robot is still at risk of getting mangled. Meanwhile, the armour on 3 Stegs was good enough to hold up. Datovidny (talk) 20:37, October 15, 2019 (UTC)
  8. Been back and forth on this one, but 3 Stegs' disc really wasn't bad, certainly good enough to pop a tyre or two on a machine that lost one to a slightly sharp flipper blade, and should be able to put dings in the armour. With a better driver, Dee might be able to deliver a good enough slam to cause 3 Stegs to lose drive on one side, but with how Dee was driven by Jordan Stephens I just can't see it happening, and losing a wheel and taking (very) minor damage to the armour will cost it. DBAPITA: 1. Combatwombat555 (talk) 20:45, October 15, 2019 (UTC)
Votes for Dee
  1. Backing the surprise here. Yes, Dee has massively exposed wheels, but as an axlebot it still packed a decent punch. Indeed, it caused some notable external damage to Robo Savage, which was ultimately enough to win the judges' decision (in spite of a punctured tyre!). 3 Stegs to Heaven has an OK disc, but I cannot trust it to survive a really good hit from its opponent, which I feel is likely to occur early on in this battle. I think this will go similar to how Stinger knocked out Thermidor 2 back in Series 6. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 08:20, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  2. 3 Steg's disc could cause problems for Dee's exposed tyres, but it isn't exactly Kadeena caliber, is it? Punctures didn't stop Dee from swinging and slamming the sides of Soldier Ant and Robo Savage, and chances are its attacks might end up triggering 3 Steg's own drive issues. Under the reboot judging criteria, 3 Stegs is set to be doomed once again. VulcansHowl 09:56, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  3. John Reid instructs Jordan Stephens to do little other than spin in place. This works to perfection, as it prevents 3 Stegs to Heaven from reaching Dee's tyres, and gets it a good whack to the side. Enough hits should disable 3 Stegs' weaponry and/or drive system. Of course, if you voted for 3 Stegs to Heaven to beat Brute in Ragnabot 2, then I'd hardly expect you to vote for Dee... TOAST 12:37, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  4. I can't stress enough how much 3 Stegs is not going to tear off Dee's wheels. Dee will likely spin and deflect 3 Stegs' attacks, then take the JD. SFCJack (talk) 17:18, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  5. 3 Stegs has a habit of losing drive on one side for no reason, Dee can smack the living hell out of 3 Stegs and win via KO. Sam (BAZINGA) 21:08, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
Winner: 3 Stegs to Heaven (8-5)

Edge Hog vs MechadroidEdit

Edge Hog Mechadroid
Edge Hog
Votes for Edge Hog
  1. Edge Hog can get its thin axe into crucial parts on top of Mechadroid, either denting armour, or leaving the axe in to drag Mechadroid around the arena and get it to a danger like the House Robots or the pit. Jimlaad43(talk) 07:56, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  2. Mechadroid has plenty of places where Edge Hog can pepper-pot and latch on for dragging and pushing into hazards. Not much else I can say for this one. VulcansHowl 09:56, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  3. Mechadroid to fall into the pit at some point just because. CrashBash (talk) 10:30, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  4. I'll go with what this side is saying. Mechadroid looks like the type of 'bot that'd be easy to grab onto with an axe, and Edge Hog will be able to win through constant attacks, eventually leading in a pitting. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 12:28, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
Votes for Mechadroid
  1. Somewhat surprised here. Edge Hog was OK, but I cannot say it was that effective. Indeed, it failed to make much of an impact on either Panic Attack or Mega Morg, whereas the only opponent it did make an impact on was the relatively unreliable Hell's Teeth. While Mechadroid may never have won a battle, it was notably aggressive, controlling its opponents with deadly embrace. What was Edge Hog's main weakness? It did not like being pushed around, which cost it against Tornado and the aformentioned Panic Attack and Mega Morg. Not to mention, without a proper wedge, Edge Hog is going to be much easier for Mechadroid to grab (particularly at the sides) and push it around. I cannot see Edge Hog causing much damage with the axe, and Mechadroid will counter its aggression through axe hits of its own. It will then secure the victory through some expert grabs and pushes, something that makes it the US version of Splinter in my opinion. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 11:59, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  2. Space is on the money here. In comes my second contrarian vote against Edge Hog's weapon system. TOAST 12:39, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  3. Yesss Mechadroid. I love this machine - need to put it in my favourite robots. I think it will win this. Edge Hog swung around a lot while Mechadroid was very well balanced and drove well. It being pitted was a unique, freak incident. I think it'll drive well at Edge Hog which has to use that stumpy wedge as a counter in the driving war which I can't see working. The axe can lands hits, and it will do. But it'll also miss plenty too as Edge Hog does, and the general sustained aggression of Mechadroid will win this for me. NJGW (talk) 12:40, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
    Don't forget that it pitted itself trying to push an already pitted robot further in, though. CrashBash (talk) 12:49, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
    Exactly. A unique freak incident. If Mechadroid pitting itself is sincerely your reasoning behind an Edge Hog vote, then I think you need to reconsider. TOAST 12:59, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
    That happened twice, so it's not unique, and the other time it didn't even get the robot in the pit. Besides, of course it's not my sincere reasoning. CrashBash (talk) 13:01, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
    In that case, I recommend you make a proper vote, since at 4-3, I would have struck your vote if I was the host. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:02, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
    Why is it I'm not allowed to make a joking-equse vote and everyone else is? You've made plenty. Keeping in mind my vote would have made it 3-0 to Edge Hog and I agreed with what Jim and Vulcan, I didn't just want to say "see above". CrashBash (talk) 15:24, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
    Nah, if it were Toast, Jimlaad, Diotoir etc, I would make the same suggestion. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:46, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
    I have let a lot of worse votes slide so far this tournament. Please let me decide if a vote is strikable or not. Jimlaad43(talk) 15:25, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
    A suggestion is different when compared to backseat modding. ;) SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 15:46, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
    OK, I'll just state it right here and now. When I voted, there were literally only two other people who had voted, and they had voted for Edge Hog. I agreed with them, but didn't want to just add "I agree" or "See above", because Jim mentioned that he didn't like that. So I decided to poke fun at the fact that Mechadroid had gone into the pit in both its battles (in both cases trying to pit another robot) as my vote just to liven it up a bit. It's no different from a DBWITA vote really. But the long story short is, I do agree with what Jim and Vulcan said. There, satisfied? CrashBash (talk) 15:55, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
    @CrashBash Having re-read Mechadroid's page and rewatched its US Season 2 heat melee, I don't think anyone is (or should be) objecting to you making a jokey vote. The issue is whether its pittings should necessarily reflect its own driving ability in the arena, and thus its potential performance in this battle. The pitting by Darkness in Heat E (or should it be Heat 5?) certainly looked to be beyond Mechadroid's control, even if it could be argued that on both occasions Mechadroid set itself up into a position where it could easily be pushed in. VulcansHowl 17:50, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  4. My take on this is that Edge Hog is an ideal size and shape for those front pincers. While Edge Hog's axe is probably the more powerful of the two, I don't trust it to win the pushing battle, especially if it gets the tip stuck inside Mechadroid. SFCJack (talk) 17:29, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  5. Mechadroid can be a decent pusher, more than capable of outfoxing Edge Hog. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:35, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
  6. I can see votes for Edge Hog, but Mechadroid is a good shape to deal with Edge Hog, and can pit Edge Hog. Adster1005 (talk) 20:16, October 15, 2019 (UTC)
  7. A lot of close battles at the end of this heat line-up, and whilst Edge Hog makes a strong case, particularly as I voted Glitterbomb over Manta earlier, I guess I'd back Mecha based on control, as there are points where I question Edge Hog's driving and axe accuracy. Besides, even Mega Morg held firm to the axe. Datovidny (talk) 20:37, October 15, 2019 (UTC)
Winner: Mechadroid (4-7)

Round 2Edit

Diotoir (5) vs WYSIWYGEdit

Diotoir (5) WYSIWYG
Diotoir s5
Votes for Diotoir (5)
  1. A shame because WYSIWYG was pretty much the only robot left which could have got a robot onto the OotA list, but this is going to be a comfortable win for Diotoir. It just needs to push WYSIWYG around the arena and it's won, while the flipper will be plenty powerful enough to overturn the 10kg stock robot. Jimlaad43(talk) 08:11, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  2. What you see is Diotoir flipping WYSIWYG, and what you get is a pitting. Adster1005 (talk) 08:18, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  3. How much does WYSIWYG weigh again? 10kg? Yeah, that's not gonna last. CrashBash (talk) 08:26, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  4. Welp, Diotoir drew the free pass. Now what you see is a 10KG 'bot, and what you get is a... one-flip-and-done. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 10:02, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  5. Will this be quicker than the Dome fight? NJGW (talk) 16:48, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  6. I don't think so, WYSIWYG has a much lower ground clearance. It's going over eventually though. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:28, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  7. I didn't back WYSIWYG to beat Backstabber, so I'm certainly not backing it to beat a competent machine in Diotoir. SFCJack (talk) 18:21, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  8. And the original 'featherweight fighting in a predominantly heavyweight tournament' faces a competent heavyweight. Combatwombat555 (talk) 18:29, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  9. A shame, because I honestly wanted to see WYSIWYG fighting Expulsion! Alas, Diotior will achieve a flip of doom early on. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 21:37, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  10. A walk in the park for Diotoir. If this were the Series 10 or Iron-Awe 7 versions of Diotoir then it would probably roof WYSIWYG. TOAST 23:54, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  11. See, who wouldn't want this to be the actual 5th seed? Datovidny (talk) 20:59, October 17, 2019 (UTC)
Votes for WYSIWYG
Winner: Diotoir (5) (11-0)

259 vs 3 Stegs to HeavenEdit

259 3 Stegs to Heaven
259 photo
3 stegs to heaven
Votes for 259
  1. 259 is the more hardy robot here (its so odd saying that) and has a much more powerful weapon. A good hit on the side will likely flip 3 Stegs over and cause its drive issues to actually become a thing. A hit on the wheels and it's game over. Jimlaad43(talk) 08:11, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  2. 259 will obliterate 3 Stegs here. Gashes all around, and if that doesn't eliminate them, the Judges decision will. Adster1005 (talk) 08:19, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  3. Yeah, as much of a glass cannon as 259 was, I'd dare say 3 Stegs is even more of one. At least 259 was generally still able to drive. CrashBash (talk) 08:27, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  4. At least you managed to get past Dee, 3 Stegs. There's no answer it has against 259, who'll ruthlessly destroy the dino without any problems. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 10:02, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  5. Unless 3 Stegs can catch 259 in just the right place, it's not going to be able to do what Wild Thing did. I back Adam Clark's machine therefore. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:29, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  6. I don't believe 3 Stegs would be capable of 1) sniping 259's wheels through the side skirts or 2) withstanding enough 259 blows to take this to a judges' decision. 259 for me. SFCJack (talk) 18:25, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  7. I can just see 3 Stegs getting bounced around the arena like Wild Thing was, and unlike Wild Thing it's not likely to survive that. Combatwombat555 (talk) 18:30, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  8. The main strength of 259 was that its hits were absolutely relentless. Unless you were as durable as Wild Thing was, chances are that the hits will kill. 3 Stegs to Heaven I doubt will achieve a lucky hit like what NJGW has mentioned, and is certainly nowhere near as reliable as Wild Thing was. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 21:37, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  9. I'm normally a big advocate of Nick's contrarian votes, but I absolutely can't see this going any other way. TOAST 23:54, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
Votes for 3 Stegs to Heaven
  1. Going to back 3 Stegs here. Its spinner is on a long arm which is also away from its own main body. 3 Steg's front curves inwards too, so to attack them, 259 really has to get in close with 3 Stegs, and in that close at an angle, 3 Stegs can turn into 259 and damage it (if it doesn't already damage it straight away with the extra reach). Neither robot is sufficiently armoured against spinners, so I think 3 Stegs getting the initial better exchange will see through from there. NJGW (talk) 16:59, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  2. I'm with Nick on this. It ould be cheap to say that 3 Stegs is basically Wild Thing but more difficult to chuck around...but 3 Stegs is Wild Thing but more difficult to chuck around. It'll also have a better chance than Wild Thing had to disable the disc, with the protruding disc. Will 3 Stegs suffer terminal damage from the disc? Well it survived Bigger Brother's slams well enough, and 3 Stegs was built like a brick. Datovidny (talk) 20:59, October 17, 2019 (UTC)
Winner: 259 (9-2)

The Tartan Terror vs CarbideEdit

The Tartan Terror Carbide
The Tartan Terror
Votes for The Tartan Terror Votes for Carbide
  1. I suppose when you have an unstoppable force such as Carbide, it makes sense to chuck the no-hoper of the round against them to avoid a promising robot winning the Rusty Spanner award. I'm struggling to come up with superlatives to describe just how much Carbide is going to obliterate The Tartan Terror. I better check Shannon Briggs' Thesaurus...It just says "Lets Go Champ". Oh. Jimlaad43(talk) 08:11, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  2. Ouch. Not much of a terror anymore. Adster1005 (talk) 08:20, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  3. CrashBash has died laughing CrashBash (talk) 08:35, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  4. And its over as quickly as it began. There is going to be nothing left of Tartan Terror. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 10:04, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  5. If you thought Concussion vs The Kegs was brutal, you ain't seen nothing yet... VulcansHowl 11:08, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  6. Angela Scanlon: "So you've never fought against an entanglement weapon?", Dave Moulds: "No, they've always been banned up until this year... I think they've brought it in because of how we acted last year.", Angela Scanlon: "So you guys were too good?", Dave Moulds: "Yeah.", Angela Scanlon: "And how are you going to battle against it?", Dave Moulds: "We'll still smash them up." NJGW (talk) 17:02, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  7. Insert link to Top Gear laughs compilation video. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:30, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  8. Pfffft SFCJack (talk) 18:27, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  9. Hey Jim, where's all the votes for The Tartan Terror? Combatwombat555 (talk) 18:32, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
    We all must be equally deluded to have all made the same mistake of voting for Carbide here :D Jimlaad43(talk) 12:38, October 17, 2019 (UTC)
  10. Still, could be worse... at least The Tartan Terror did not bring exposed wheels into the arena! SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 21:37, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  11. Jimlaad has a heartwarming conversation with his landlord about The Tartan Terror's time on Robot Wars, and then quietly reveals that he was cheering for Carbide to destroy it, and is suddenly evicted. TOAST 23:54, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  12. I was torn, a real Super-Heavyweight clash here, but on balance I think Carbide might just edge this on a judges' decision. Datovidny (talk) 20:59, October 17, 2019 (UTC)
    I love how even the most sarcastic votes STILL can't say that Tartan Terror will win. CrashBash (talk) 21:12, October 17, 2019 (UTC)
Winner: Carbide (0-12)

6 Million Dollar Mouse vs Ming 2Edit

6 Million Dollar Mouse Ming 2
6 Million Dollar Mouse
Votes for 6 Million Dollar Mouse
  1. Ming 2 will sadly find a way to lose this, its also far too long to be a feasible flipper. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 08:15, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  2. My concern is that should Ming 2 fail to achieve a flip of doom immediately (I highly doubt a side-stranding will occur), then it is going to really struggle here. Its awkward design will enable 6 Million Dollar Mouse to land some critical blows on the vulnerable sides, while generally being agile enough to dodge the flipper. Ming 2 was never the most reliable of machines, breaking down early in its match against frenZy and just grinding to a halt against The Morgue. 6 Million Dollar Mouse's blade was decent enough; a good few hits may secure the knockout. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 09:03, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  3. 6 Million Dollar Mouse's long shape and ground clearance makes it susceptible to being flip over ala Diotoir, but 6 Million Dollar Mouse has a fine blade. And Ming 2's front armour got completely penetrated by The Morgue. And 6 Million Dollar Mouse's weapon will likely shatter it and negate the potential of a flip. NJGW (talk) 17:04, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  4. I just don't trust Ming 2 to win this. My money's on $6MMD to get enough buffeting hits on the long sides of Ming 2 without any meaningful reply to win this on a JD. SFCJack (talk) 18:33, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  5. For me this entirely comes down to whether Ming 2 can flip the Mouse in 3 minutes- if it doesn't, 6MDM should comfortably win the decision on damage. With the flipper in an awkward place, I'm not sure it can. Combatwombat555 (talk) 18:39, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  6. I'll have to go with this side in the end. Ming 2 is too long and its flipper is too high up to reliably get other 'bots over, made worse by the fact that its armour is weak and its reliability isn't great. The Mouse should get a win by KO after the hits dealt cause Ming 2 to shut down. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 19:06, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
Votes for Ming 2
  1. Ming 2 will take a while to find itself under €5.436M Mouse, which it should be able to do with the US ground clearance issues, and will get it flipped over and done. Yes, Ming won't do it straight away and should take some damage from the spinner of ₿737.24 Mouse, potentially getting a wheel locked up, but I think it can get a killer flip in before that time. Jimlaad43(talk) 08:11, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  2. The ground clearance isn't the best on 6MDMouse, and it will eventually go over, but it will take a while, and Ming 2 will take some damage. Adster1005 (talk) 08:22, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  3. I argued this with Philipper back in Audited Extreme Warriors and I'll argue it again here...Ming 2's flipper looks like it would be just the right design to leave the Mouse on its side, thus negating the srimech completely. We still need to remember that Ming 2 basically one-shotted the extremely large and low Diotoir with no issue - the Mouse is smaller and has a higher ground clearance. CrashBash (talk) 08:29, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  4. Ming 2 should be able to get under that ground clearance and get a sufficiently good flip. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:31, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  5. I'm totally OK with 6 Million Dollar Mouse winning this one, but I'm sticking with Ming II for now. I have a feeling the spinner of Moolah Mouse will bend and break after too many impacts, leaving Ming II to flip an opponent which is a similar shape to Diotoir, except much smaller and higher off the ground. TOAST 23:54, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  6. I agree with Toast in as much as I can see this swing the other way, Ming 2 did suffer against frenzy after one hit and The Morgue didn't appear to do much, so I can't back its reliability. That being said, the mouse has a high ground clearance, a blade that may struggle to hit anything before it's toppled, and an awkward shape of its own. Datovidny (talk) 20:59, October 17, 2019 (UTC)
Winner: Ming 2 (6-6) 1-1 Judges' Decision, Commentator's choice

Ultor vs MechadroidEdit

Ultor Mechadroid
Ultor official image
Votes for Ultor Votes for Mechadroid
  1. Mechadroid is basically an upgraded version of Ultor with exposed wheels and pincers. It should be the more aggressive, have the better weapons and win the pushing wars. Jimlaad43(talk) 08:11, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  2. Similarly, Ultor seems to be a good shape for Mechadroid to push around and eventually pit. Adster1005 (talk) 08:23, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  3. After their last three fights (because I'm still going to say that Mechadroid ends up in the pit anyway, just because), I suspect Mechadroid will actively try to avoid the pit. It has more weapons than Ultor, and is probably more effective too. CrashBash (talk) 08:31, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  4. Mechadroid is the more solid pusher of the lot and I wouldn't be surprised if its axe does some damage to the shell of Ultor. This should go to the judges', but Mechadroid's attacks are going to be more effective. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 10:14, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  5. The Mechadroid march continues! NJGW (talk) 17:05, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  6. Maybe I'm overrating Mechadroid a bit, but I think it can sufficiently outpush Ultor for the win here. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:31, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  7. Mechadroid should be able to smother Ultor throughout the duration of the fight and if not KO it, catch the eyes of the judges. SFCJack (talk) 18:35, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  8. The only thing that'll trouble Mechadroid is that Ultor's pretty low, and Mechadroid will probably keep riding up on top. Other than that, it should be fairly comfortable for the American machine. Combatwombat555 (talk) 18:41, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  9. Lovely to see Mechadroid make progress for a chance. While Ultor is fairly low to the ground for a Series 3 machine, it lacks the pushing power and damage potential needed to properly resist the US Splinter. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 21:37, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  10. Love this draw, glad I'm not the only one who's chuffed to see Mechadroid in the Heat Finals. TOAST 23:54, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  11. One to be described as "a war of attrition", and who knows, Ultor might make it to a judges' decision, but the victor may prove all too obvious. Datovidny (talk) 20:59, October 17, 2019 (UTC)
Winner: Mechadroid (0-11)

T-Bone vs PitbullEdit

T-Bone Pitbull
T-Bone white
Pitbull mag
Votes for T-Bone
  1. I'm really, really confused here. A whopping nine people voted for T-Bone to beat Mobot on the grounds that it would survive the brunt of a 20kg Series 7 spinner, and cut through its armour that was made of the same stuff as 8645T, but when it's facing the significantly less threatening Pitbull, it's losing unanimously? If T-Bone can cut through Mobot without breaking its disc (I still doubt this, but let's assume it to be true for now), then absolutely it can make a mess of a Series 3 machine armoured in 5mm aluminium. Pitbull in return poses no damaging threat. It can try to grab T-Bone, but to do so, it would need to avoid the disc and get around the back or side, which is a challenge in and of itself. For example, how many times have you seen a robot get around to the back of Tough as Nails in a 1v1? Never, and that had tons of fights. If T-Bone stays head-on then Pitbull won't get a grip, and even if it does, T-Bone's wheels will stay on the ground which would allow it to outmuscle Pitbull in the ensuing pushing war. Indeed, having read the team's summary of their fight against 8645T, apparently Beast was not pushing them near the pit in the match's most critical moment, but rather T-Bone was trying to drag 8645T into the pit. T-Bone to either romp a victory on disc damage, or just win on pushing power if a grip is initiated. I dread to think it could do a Kill-E-Crank-E, but even that is possible... TOAST 23:54, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  2. I was back and forth, but Toast's convinced me. Considering a single axe blow from Sumpthing apparently messed up Pitbull's control for the rest of the fight, it won't enjoy T-Bone's disc. Combatwombat555 (talk) 12:25, October 17, 2019 (UTC)
Votes for Pitbull
  1. If Pitbull can get a grip on T-Bone, it should have enough in its tank to push T-Bone into the pit. On an unrelated note, does anyone know what's happened to Mr 305, Mr Worldwide, actual Pitbull? I haven't heard music from him in a while and it's a shame. Jimlaad43(talk) 08:11, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  2. T-Bone was the opponent Pitbull was designed to fight. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 08:14, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  3. It'll be like a dog with a bone. And that T-Bone will end in the pit. Adster1005 (talk) 08:25, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  4., apparently, T-Bone can cut through steel. That SHOULD give it an advantage. But whilst I may back it against a relative nobody like Mobot, I'm a little more unsure with Pitbull, despite being the older machine built without spinners in mind. I'll go with Pitbull for now. CrashBash (talk) 08:32, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  5. Pitbull was able to prove itself as a good pusher at the time of Series 3, and those jaws should be able to grab T-Bone with relative ease and drag it into the pit after some back-and-forth action. Don't think T-Bone's disc will do much to deter Pitbull, either. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 10:13, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  6. Boo, Adster beat me too it. NJGW (talk) 17:06, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  7. Pitbull is nimble enough to avoid the spinning disc and grab hold of and outpush its local rival. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:32, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  8. "Dog with a bone and all that." - Jonathan Pearce, circa 2002 SFCJack (talk) 18:37, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  9. Well, Mo Farah's favourite robot would not have won this, I can tell you that! And yeah, T-Bone is relatively easy to grab and pit. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 21:37, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  10. This was a tough one actually, to the point where I had to re-watch both in action. On the basis that we can't determine the disc power because it broke so early, and the fact that Pitbull did look quite robust, and probably the quicker and more manoeuvrable of the two, I'll give it the edge on a judges' decision. Datovidny (talk) 21:13, October 17, 2019 (UTC)
Winner: Pitbull (2-10)

Manta vs Expulsion (10)Edit

Manta Expulsion (10)
Expulsion and Detention
Votes for Manta
  1. Manta was a spectacular pusher and should dominate this fight, with its saw nipping away at the sides of Expulsion and lifting it a bit. Enough to tip it over? Probably. Although it should probably just shove Expulsion into a House Robot, it wouldn't take much from Matilda or Shunt to overturn Expulsion. Manta is then free to chase and annihilate Detention. Jimlaad43(talk) 08:11, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  2. Manta will push Expulsion into the House Robots to overturn it, and then a chase will ensue in which Detention will get destroyed. Adster1005 (talk) 08:27, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  3. Manta has now beaten two reboot 'bots in a row. Really, all it'll take is one slam and I wouldn't be surprised if Expulsion face-planted again. CrashBash (talk) 08:33, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  4. Expulsion is always going to faceplant. With a 'bot as fast as Manta, that'll happen even faster than before. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 10:11, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  5. One good slam, and Explusion will turn itself into an undriveable position. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:33, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  6. Even if Expulsion doesn't go over, Manta's faster, more powerful, and has probably the more damaging weapon. Combatwombat555 (talk) 18:44, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  7. Yeah, I don't want to appear dismissive of Expulsion but I can't see past an inevitable faceplant. SFCJack (talk) 19:15, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  8. One good slam will be enough for the overturn. That said, Expulsion was not even the closest to being the least competitive robot in the Rumble. We will just have to wait for it to compete, because I have as much criticism for that certain robot as CrashBash does for Cerberus... SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 21:37, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  9. I guess this saves a more embarrassing loss where Expulsion loses to a robot significantly worse than it just because it continues to be - pardon my language - underrated. Losing to Manta is fairly agreeable, but I dread to think which other robots in this heat would collect silly votes against it. TOAST 23:54, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  10. Original, well-armoured, damaging, dare I say it, underrated. However, against a low vertical spinner to exploit the shape, Expulsion will be up against it. Datovidny (talk) 21:13, October 17, 2019 (UTC)
Votes for Expulsion (10)
Winner: Manta (10-0)

Sawpoint 2 vs VaderEdit

Sawpoint 2 Vader
Vader 7
Votes for Sawpoint 2 Votes for Vader
  1. Hey Space, those wheels look pretty vulnerable to the Lightsaber flywheel. Jimlaad43(talk) 08:11, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  2. Yeah, those wheels look suspect. Adster1005 (talk) 08:29, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  3. Yeah, there's only so far being deliberately rubbish can take you. Yeah, I know Sawpoint 2 certainly had its moments, but the way the team described it suggested that it being rubbish was the intention. Vader is not any definition of rubbish though. CrashBash (talk) 08:34, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  4. I was gonna make a joke about how Sawpoint 2 was tough as old boots and call back to that idiot that said a good work boot could kill a proper combat robot, but then I realized that that was the strength of A-Kill, so I guess Vader will cleave Sawpoint 2 to pieces and tear off some wheels. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 10:10, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  5. (Milhouse's voice) "Say the line Space..." Hogwild94 (talk) 17:34, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
    ...Don't bring wheels into the arena count: 40. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 21:37, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  6. Ever wondered why very few vehicles in Star Wars have wheels? Now you know. Combatwombat555 (talk) 18:48, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  7. Now if this was the Extreme 2 Saw Point, I'- forget it. Vader takes this all ends up. SFCJack (talk) 19:18, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  8. Now, to be fair, Sawpoint 2's discs were of an underrated quality, and Vader has broken down under mild pressure before. That said, Sawpoint 2 also broke down under mild pressure, so that balances things. Plus, them exposed wheels, as mentioned above. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 21:37, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  9. One win was enough fun for Sawpoint II, glad it got that much, but Vader moves on. TOAST 23:54, October 16, 2019 (UTC)
  10. Genuine question; Outside of its one-hit KO on Aggrobot 3, how impressive was Vader? I fear this could be a more boring encounter than most may think, perhaps less reminiscent of how Extreme 2 Saw Point ended up and more in line with Saw Point 2's slow demise at the hands of Ewe 2. Datovidny (talk) 21:13, October 17, 2019 (UTC)
Winner: Vader (0-10)

Round 3Edit

Diotoir (5) vs MantaEdit

Diotoir (5) Manta
Diotoir s5
Votes for Diotoir (5)
  1. I agree that Diotoir is unlikely to flip Manta over. But I will still side with Diotoir. Why? Two words - battery problems. If Manta was unable to finish the fight quickly, it always, without fail, ran out of power and finished the fight either shuffling back and forth or being flatout unable to move at all. Yes, those were five minute fights and the questionable editing of the US seasons makes it a little difficult to tell how long it took for this to happen, but it's still something that did happen and it still concerns me, especially as Diotoir was able to hold its own against Tornado of all robots. CrashBash (talk) 08:49, October 18, 2019 (UTC)
  2. Diotoir won't overturn Manta, but Manta is can run out of power, and the Series 5 version of Diotoir's only immobilisation was being flipped, IIRC. Diotoir can hold up against Manta until it starts running out of power. Then, it can push Manta around the arena, into the House Robots, and the pit. Adster1005 (talk) 19:43, October 18, 2019 (UTC)
  3. Diotoir to get under and pit Manta. Sam (BAZINGA) 20:25, October 18, 2019 (UTC)
  4. Diotoir's scoop was very low to the ground, and that's all it needs here, as unlike Expulsion which was more of a top-heavy design, Diotoir can survive the hits and get in-underneath Manta and do what it wants. Datovidny (talk) 00:01, October 19, 2019 (UTC)
  5. I feel that Diotoir would be slighty better suited to raising Manta's wheels off the ground with its scoop, enabling it to control the American machine's movements. I expect a close tussle early on, but once Manta begins to struggle, Diotoir can control the battle from there. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 16:43, October 19, 2019 (UTC)
Votes for Manta
  1. I can't see Diotoir getting Manta over, its flipper just doesn't have the power or reach to overturn the low and wide Manta. Manta's spinner will definitely shred the fur, and can get into the armour too, definitely denting it around the wheels. Whether it does any more I can't be sure, but it will certainly match Diotoir's pushing power and dominate at points. This might be pretty close, but Manta will be the more aggressive and have scored more damage. If it can get around the flipper to the springs with the spinner, that could be some absolutely crucial points. Jimlaad43(talk) 08:25, October 18, 2019 (UTC)
  2. If this were Ragnabot 1, then I'd bet a tenner that Diotoir would win this, easy. Fortunately we're now in a time where Diotoir is rated less highly and Manta is rated more highly. Perfectly balanced, as all things should be. Manta is generally the superior machine here, it doesn't matter if the spinner gets clogged because Manta's spinner always gave out anyway. As CrashBash rightfully points out, Diotoir COULD repeat its famous Tornado pitting if Manta burns out much like Tornado did (Manta does have a history of this), but in a 3-minute fight rather than a full 5-minute bout, I'll trust Manta to survive. TOAST 08:54, October 18, 2019 (UTC)
  3. Manta will easily outpush Diotoir, and quite possibly turn it over with a well timed and hard enough slam. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:40, October 18, 2019 (UTC)
  4. Unfortunately, this Diotoir isn't gonna make it to the QQF's in my view. Its a decent 'bot, but Manta won't really struggle against a slow and plodding 'bot like Diotoir and its too wide and low to even get one-flip-and-done'd. Thus, Manta will have no problem dealing blow after blow onto Diotoir, and the 3 minute time serves as a boon to it as it won't exhibit its reliability problems as much. A bit of a slowdown, yes, but I think Manta will win through a pitting or a JD, either works fine. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 22:47, October 18, 2019 (UTC)
  5. I had to put a bit of thought into this one - tricky one. Diotoir is well grounded. Manta's slams will be consistent and strong, but Diotoir will hold position in the centre of the arena - similar to the Tornado fight. To win this, Diotoir needs a Tornado-esque breakdown too. And it can happen, because Manta did have its problems with long fights. However, as mentioned, in a 3 minute time limit, Manta will probably be okay, and if it doesn't break down, then it'll win this Judges' decision with relative ease. NJGW (talk) 14:18, October 19, 2019 (UTC)
Winner: Manta (5-5) 1-1 Judges' Decision, Commentator's Choice

Vader vs PitbullEdit

Vader Pitbull
Vader 7
Pitbull mag
Votes for Vader
  1. Vader's pyramidal sides really won't fit in Pitbull's mouth, and Vader's spinner will have fun with Pitbull's series 3 armour. The dog to be hit until it dies here. Jimlaad43(talk) 08:25, October 18, 2019 (UTC)
  2. T-Bone, and Mobot for that matter, would have lost anyway. CrashBash (talk) 08:50, October 18, 2019 (UTC)
  3. All four of this heat's "best robots" have been kept apart in these Heat Finals, and Vader is probably the main beneficiary of that. Vader would've lost to the other three robots escaping the heat today, and even Diotoir might've fazed it somewhat, but here Vader gets to take advantage of the awkward T-Bone inconsistency route. TOAST 08:54, October 18, 2019 (UTC)
  4. T-Bone, and Mo Farah's favourite robot for that matter, would have lost anyway. A hard hit from Vader will probably secure the knockout. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 09:02, October 18, 2019 (UTC)
  5. Yeah, now we can talk about Pitbull being outclassed by a noughties spinner. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:41, October 18, 2019 (UTC)
  6. Vader will probably finish this in one large hit. Adster1005 (talk) 19:32, October 18, 2019 (UTC)
  7. Pitbull was boned no matter who it drew. Just so happened that it was Vader that gets to redeem its free pass despite its reliability problems, which won't be a factor whatsoever as it broke after a heavy flip which... well, Pitbull can't do. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 22:42, October 18, 2019 (UTC)
    ehhhh, I wouldn't say that. Pitbull would beat Mechadroid and Ming 2 of the last 8. Jimlaad43(talk) 22:46, October 18, 2019 (UTC)
    Wouldn't see Pitbull beating Mechadroid, honestly. Now Ming 2, I can sorta get as Ming 2's reliability sucks hard, but the possibility of a one-flip-and-done is gonna count hard against Pitbull in my view. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 22:50, October 18, 2019 (UTC)
    Ming's flipper is so high that Pitbull will definitely roll back over onto its wheels with the power and height combo. OFAD isn't going to happen. Jimlaad43(talk) 22:56, October 18, 2019 (UTC)
  8. Vader has weaknesses, but its spinner is still of a good standard. Pitbull will charge quickly, maybe get a good drive in with that charge, but Vader will make contact with that spinner and push through to an overall dominant victory. NJGW (talk) 14:22, October 19, 2019 (UTC)
Votes for Pitbull
  1. You know what, call me crazy, and it's beena while since I went as left-field as this, but I carry forward my sentiment from the previous round. We assume that Vader can make mince meat of a robot that showed no signs of poor reliability in any of its fights, against a robot that broke down under less pressure than some slams from Pitbull. This can swing either way, but I'm going to back the robot that proved competent in more fights. Datovidny (talk) 00:01, October 19, 2019 (UTC)
Winner: Vader (8-1)

Mechadroid vs CarbideEdit

Mechadroid Carbide
Votes for Mechadroid Votes for Carbide
  1. I take it this is what the Rusty Spanner award was designed for? Mechadroid's decent run ends with a straw so short it's only visible in electron microscopes. Jimlaad43(talk) 08:25, October 18, 2019 (UTC)
  2. Mechadroid drives into the pit. I know I keep making the joke, but lets be's the only logical course of action here. CrashBash (talk) 08:50, October 18, 2019 (UTC)
  3. Well a Heat Final is more than I expected from Mechadroid, I'll admit, but this is a heartbreaker. TOAST 08:54, October 18, 2019 (UTC)
  4. Don't bring wheels into the arena count: 41. Damn, I was hoping for Mechadroid to escape the heats! Alas, its time will come, some day. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 09:02, October 18, 2019 (UTC)
  5. Now that's unfortunate, but, yeah, Mechadroid is doomed. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:41, October 18, 2019 (UTC)
  6. Carbide will obliterate Mechadroid. Adster1005 (talk) 19:35, October 18, 2019 (UTC)
  7. Well, after Carbide righted the wrongs of Ragnabot 2 by vaporizing Infernal Contraption and The Tartan Terror, it now gets to completely wipe Mechadroid off the face of the earth to prevent another interesting QQF placer from happening. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 22:39, October 18, 2019 (UTC)
  8. Another tough draw for Carbide, another tough decision for the judges but they might just edge it as long as their spinner doesn't stop working. Datovidny (talk) 00:06, October 19, 2019 (UTC)
  9. Sad. NJGW (talk) 14:24, October 19, 2019 (UTC)
Winner: Carbide (0-9)

Ming 2 vs 259Edit

Ming 2 259
259 photo
Votes for Ming 2
  1. Again,whilst 259 will rely on catching Ming 2 at an angle and banking on the quick KO, Ming 2 only has to do its thing and be direct, get underneath and flick 259 over. Datovidny (talk) 00:06, October 19, 2019 (UTC)
Votes for 259
  1. Ming 2's history of conking out when hit with big knocks are going to hurt it here. The side skirts of 259 and the position of Ming's flipper will prevent Ming 2 from getting a quick flip on 259. It needs a quick flip because 259 will relentlessly hit the sides of Ming 2 until it dies initially. Yeah, the drive belt for the spinner might get bent off, but Ming will have died by then. Jimlaad43(talk) 08:25, October 18, 2019 (UTC)
  2. Reasonably confident 6 Million Dollar Mouse may have lost this fight too. CrashBash (talk) 08:51, October 18, 2019 (UTC)
  3. 259 probably has a lower wedge than Ming II which is really something that should never be said in a battle between a disc with no wedgelets vs. a front-hinged flipper... TOAST 08:54, October 18, 2019 (UTC)
  4. Unless Ming 2 gets a very lucky flip early on, the relentless attacks from 259 will probably cause the flipper to conk out within the first minute. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 09:02, October 18, 2019 (UTC)
  5. Ming 2 won't be able to get underneath 259 far enough to get a flip in, so, yeah, 259 breezes it aside for an easy win. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:43, October 18, 2019 (UTC)
  6. 259 will be relentless and cause Ming II to be knocked-out. Adster1005 (talk) 19:36, October 18, 2019 (UTC)
  7. Really, 259 wasn't gonna struggle against a 'bot that somehow broke down against The Morgue of all 'bots. One hit will potentially cause a KO to happen and that'll be that. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 22:41, October 18, 2019 (UTC)
  8. Ming 2 to get ruined in a dominant opening 20 seconds. NJGW (talk) 14:25, October 19, 2019 (UTC)
Winner: 259 (1-8)
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