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Round 1

PP3D vs Beast

PP3D	Beast
Votes for PP3D We've already got through Apex, so here's another reboot spinner too powerful for its own good. That said, Beast's armour is so pitiful, PP3D doesn't need to get up tae too much speed here to tear through the paltry bars and get to those nice and juicy wheels. Plus Beast's reliability left quite a bit to be desired, so that won't help against something that delivers big knocks. Jimlaad43(talk) 00:46, December 14, 2019 (UTC) PP3D had its issues, but it's still a bloody good machine capable of immobilising virtually every machine in Robot Wars history. It beat Eruption, it bested Apollo in the two's melee, and that was just in Series 8 with weaker weaponry! PP3D is going to shatter Beast here. NJGW (talk) 00:58, December 14, 2019 (UTC) The iron bars may look aesthetically different to other 'bots, but durable it isn't. PP3D will shred through it like nothing and KO this beast easily, especially considering how weak it was to getting whacked. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 01:15, December 14, 2019 (UTC) Pretty funny that we're seeing robots like REALI-T advance further than Beast, but that's the nature of Ragnabot for you. No armor, no hope here for Beast. Badnik96 (talk) 03:52, December 14, 2019 (UTC) I'm always reluctant to support robots with minimal/no armour even at the best of times and even if there is technically a reason for it. This is certainly one of those times. Beast died twice to heavy spinners, after all. CrashBash (talk) 05:05, December 14, 2019 (UTC) Pretty easy win for PP3D here as long as it doesn't randomly die.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 09:20, December 14, 2019 (UTC) If the tyres don't get wrecked, then the exoskeleton will. Beast's run-ins with Ironside and Pulsar proved that it can easily be slain by powerful spinners, and I don't expect anything different against PP3D's undercutter. VulcansHowl 10:39, December 14, 2019 (UTC) Beast is the reboot flipper I always forget about when heading into a Ragnabot, and one of these days it's going to do really well. Today is not that day. TOAST 12:07, December 14, 2019 (UTC)	Votes for Beast
Winner:

Cyrax vs Eric

Cyrax	Eric
Votes for Cyrax Haha, amazing. Two of the most (comically brilliantly) overrated bots by certain parties meet here. We have Cyrax, the robot which was touted as the best Series 6 had to offer in the battle cards; and we have Eric, the OP meme overlord of Shuntposting. Back in the real world however, Cyrax has the measure of Eric here. I trust its flipper more to overturn the opponent, and its wedge is probably better for pushing too. Plus the axe can score points. Jimlaad43(talk) 00:46, December 14, 2019 (UTC) This one's close but I think I'll give it to Cyrax on the basis that it's got two years and 20 kilograms on Eric, and I think the two are pretty equal in build quality. Cyrax's flipper was good enough to keep pressure on Eric more than Eric's grabber would be likewise. Badnik96 (talk) 03:52, December 14, 2019 (UTC) It's not so much who can flip who over more easily, it's more that Eric has a fairly large turning circle. Cyrax is thus more likely to be able to continually keep to the sides and nag away. CrashBash (talk) 05:06, December 14, 2019 (UTC) Tough one and although Eric is quite good, it seemed to suffer from control issues in its Series 4 matches, often swinging about before attacking. Cyrax has a major advantage with not only a flipper but an axe to go with it. This should sway the battle here.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 09:23, December 14, 2019 (UTC) Have to say that from comparing top-down arena shots of the two, Cyrax looks to have a lower ground clearance and a flipper lip that sits flusher to the floor than Eric's arm. Regardless of it lacking any means to recover from side-stranding, I can see Cyrax being able to make more use of its weaponry by lifting, axing and flipping the (mercifully) former meme machine within the full three minutes. VulcansHowl 10:39, December 14, 2019 (UTC) Every vote so far has given a very thorough explanation for why they think their party will win, but I'm just out here thinking it's a kinda obvious Cyrax win. Eric is a sight easier to flip than Razer. TOAST 12:05, December 14, 2019 (UTC) The purple blue pyramid has the measure of Eric quite easily, to be honest. Cyrax's flipper should pressure Eric into a situation where Eric won't be able to recover reliably despite its self-righting arms. Sooner or later Eric will fall down the pit after Cyrax continues to attack Eric. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 12:49, December 14, 2019 (UTC)	Votes for Eric I thought you hated Eric-posting, Jimlaad. Anyhow, what concerns me regarding Cyrax is that while it has the better weapons, can it actually self-right? If side-stranded, I am really not sure whether Cyrax can right itself. In contrast, Eric does have a srimech to prevent side-stranding. Henceforth, while Cyrax should gain the advantage at the start, Eric only really needs one flip to win. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 00:59, December 14, 2019 (UTC) When done right it can be good. My issue is that every single discussion seems to descend into Eric is the GOAT, and it isn't a joke like Darth Plagueis the Wise which works as an oversaturated punchline. Plus if I'd called it a crap meme in my vote you'd all be slating me for that xD Jimlaad43(talk) 09:52, December 14, 2019 (UTC) it still makes me laugh just how much of Wild Willy is clearly reworked into Cyrax - they literally have the same axe and body setup. Not that that's a bad thing, I just find it funny. Anyway, I'm going Eric here. Eric is a very awkward shape to flip opportunistically, and Eric will find it much easier to flip while on the turn because of its protruding flipper lip. Even if Cyrax reverts to the axe for attacks it'll struggle. The axe so often missed its targets because of its long shaft, and that also allows Eric attacks at the end where Cyrax has no flipper, anyway. Something that can also be forgotten is that Eric has self-righting arms at the side. Thankfully, Spacemaniac who forced an edit conflict on my end, clearly hasn't forgotten! Cyrax will have to work a lot if it wants a win. NJGW (talk) 01:10, December 14, 2019 (UTC)
Winner:

Detonator vs M.R. Speed Squared

Detonator	M.R. Speed Squared
Votes for Detonator	Votes for M.R. Speed Squared Talking of unreliable reboot spinners... Now y'see, technically we are assuming each robot is fixed between rounds, so really we should be judging this as Round 1 M.R. Speed Squared in all battles. But I mean, it's all trivial at the moment as this is one of the easiest entries onto the new Bin Bag list so I suppose we can just enjoy that. Jimlaad43(talk) 00:46, December 14, 2019 (UTC) A fitting end for Detonator. MR Speed Squared will cause Detonator to explode violently. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 01:07, December 14, 2019 (UTC) M.R. Speed Squared to rip off that castor at the front, Detonator to fall in on itself, and then be ripped open. NJGW (talk) 01:11, December 14, 2019 (UTC) Will there even be anything left? Badnik96 (talk) 03:52, December 14, 2019 (UTC) And we all thought Detonator vs frenZy was destructive! CrashBash (talk) 05:07, December 14, 2019 (UTC) HAHA!Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 09:26, December 14, 2019 (UTC) Detonator...decimated. VulcansHowl 10:39, December 14, 2019 (UTC) frenZy is asking to join in! TOAST 12:06, December 14, 2019 (UTC)
Winner:

Talos vs Demon

Talos	Demon
Votes for Talos Talos was a decent little pusher, and although it will get caught by Demon's wedge at the front at times, I can see it getting around the side of Demon and shoving it around more effectively, ending up taking a tight judges decision on a few minor points. Jimlaad43(talk) 00:46, December 14, 2019 (UTC) Voting here because Talos doesn't have a speed of 2 miles per hour. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 01:06, December 14, 2019 (UTC) What a nasty fight, could go either way but I have more trust with the quicker machine with front spikes to damage Demon.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 09:27, December 14, 2019 (UTC)	Votes for Demon Demon ain't quick, but Talos isn't a speed demon itself, and more vitally its drive setup is awful. It has two wheels at the back and a front castor - which made Talos swerve about uncontrollably against GBH. Talos just has such little control, and Demon - which carried out a good push on The Mule - will take advantage of this with its slow, yet consistent and composed control. Important little note: Talos' ground clearance is high, so any potential voters, don't get confused by the picture it uses here. NJGW (talk) 01:20, December 14, 2019 (UTC) Neither of these robots are all that fast so I have to agree with NJGW - Demon was the more controlled, and most importantly it's sloped at the sides. Talos, with its high ground clearance and rounded front end, will struggle to get a proper push on it. Badnik96 (talk) 03:52, December 14, 2019 (UTC) Talos may in theory have the better pushing ability, but the people who have voted for Demon have raised a very valid point - all that pushing ability will be useless if it can't get underneath Demon in the first place. CrashBash (talk) 05:09, December 14, 2019 (UTC) Can’t question the logic of Demon’s wedge and control negating any potential speed advantage that Talos has. The original G.B.H. wasn’t exactly a Le Mans prototype, either, and look how easily it snuck under Talos’s ground clearance then. A shove into one of the CPZs is all Demon needs to do; let’s hope the reliability issues don’t kick in while the House Robots go to town on Talos. VulcansHowl 10:39, December 14, 2019 (UTC) When it comes to a battle between two Series 2 robots, I'm quite happy to let Nick do the thinking for me, that vote was far more convincing than anything I could come up with. TOAST 12:11, December 14, 2019 (UTC)
Winner:

The Blob vs REALI-T

The Blob	REALI-T
Votes for The Blob Haha, yes. A Series 1-off! Love it. The Blob is heavier, which should give it a major advantage in a pushing fight. Plus it's flat sides will be better for pushing than REALI-T's circular shape. One of these in round 2, you love to see it! Jimlaad43(talk) 00:46, December 14, 2019 (UTC)	Votes for REALI-T Always love a Series 1 matchup. Anyhow, The Blob was both sluggish and unreliable, whereas REALI-T at least looked lively and was aggressive against Bodyhammer. I see some collisions resulting in The Blob breaking down. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 00:53, December 14, 2019 (UTC) The Blob broke down in the Gauntlet, The Blob broke down because it pushed too many balls in the Snooker and couldn't pot even one ball, The Blob broke down because it and Skarab made contact with each other. I desperately wish I was joking, but I'm not. The Blob is so lucky that it cheesed its way to the Arena stage because Wharthog is rubbish and because of Eubank the Mouse's clause. It really is that bad. REAT kill Mr The Blobby immediately. NJGW (talk) 01:29, December 14, 2019 (UTC) REALI-T is simply the better and more reliable robot. Badnik96 (talk) 03:52, December 14, 2019 (UTC) The Blob has the weight advantage and literally nothing else. CrashBash (talk) 05:10, December 14, 2019 (UTC) It maybe bigger but The Blob's armour was very weak and slow as well as being unreliable makes this rather easy for REALI-T.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 09:30, December 14, 2019 (UTC) Not going to dispute the reliability issues that compromised The Blob at every stage of its Heat Semi-Final journey. At least REALI-T was able to stand up to both Full Metal Anorak and Bodyhammer with its spikes, which it should use to spear and push The Blob back until its foe dies on its own accord. VulcansHowl 10:39, December 14, 2019 (UTC) When it comes to a battle between two Series 1 robots, I'm quite happy to let Nick do the thinking for me, that vote was far more convincing than anything I could come up with. TOAST 12:15, December 14, 2019 (UTC) At least REALI-T was a 'bot that was able to hold up in its fights without breaking down. I don't think The Blob will last the fight, as it will somehow break down after a few rams. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 12:47, December 14, 2019 (UTC)
Winner:

Rusty vs Wolverine

Rusty	Wolverine
Votes for Rusty A shame for Wolverine because it was a decent little machine, but Rusty should be able to get this dealt with in a couple of flips. No OotA this time for Wolverine, but it will be second best to the flipper, no matter how effective any shoves might be. Jimlaad43(talk) 00:46, December 14, 2019 (UTC) Series 9 was the team's first tine driving Rusty yes, but that doesn't mean this is also their first time driving, they at least get to keep that limited experience. That's enough time to teach the lesson of "don't misflip yourself onto your back panel", leaving us with a match where Wolverine cannot get a KO, and Rusty can within one flip. Rusty at least won one or two fights in Ireland after the series, and its time as Ceros showed it to be at least decent. TOAST 12:23, December 14, 2019 (UTC)	Votes for Wolverine This might be somewhat of a surprise, but I have confidence in Wolverine. Now, I am not saying that Wolverine can beat most reboot flippers, hell no. No, I am voting for Wolverine because I do not rate Rusty in the slightest. Even if one ignores Apollo's flip that damaged Rusty's rear, Rusty is still a strangely fragile machine for its era. Meanwhile, its wedge looks easy to detach based on its encounter with Apollo. Rusty might get a flip or two, but Wolverine will self-right, and probably will exploit Rusty's somewhat problematic control with some good slams. I struggle to see Rusty actually surviving such attacks, and I feel each slam and push will damage it more and more as the fight progresses. Ultimately, I see Wolverine securing a knockout, but I can understand being in the minority for this one. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 01:02, December 14, 2019 (UTC) I will support Space's side for now. But I'm not decided. NJGW (talk) 01:32, December 14, 2019 (UTC) Rusty was falling apart from being flipped by Apollo. I did not see enough to convince me it could hold its own in battle. RA2; aka Resetti's Replicas. (My Talk) 02:38, December 14, 2019 (UTC) Going forward I will refer to Rusty as “Whynotceros”, which will be for a limited time given that it will not last long here. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 02:47, December 14, 2019 (UTC) Wasn't Rusty's appearance in the arena the first time the team had ever driven it, or something like that? I really do not trust them to drive their robot well enough against a robot like Wolverine. Badnik96 (talk) 03:42, December 14, 2019 (UTC) Rusty's flipper was falling apart as it was driving! And then it completely came apart thanks to Apollo, sure Wolverine isn't reboot material but honestly a few rams and flips could cause pieces to come off...Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 09:32, December 14, 2019 (UTC) In spite of having a much more potent weapon, Rusty’s inexperience, lack of testing and apparent flimsiness at the hands of the Glasgow Clyde College squad will put it on the back foot as soon as Wolverine gets around to the sides. Wolverine demonstrated against Wheely Big Cheese that it was capable of holding its own against a powerful pneumatic flipper, and I can see Rusty’s chances literally falling apart when it tries and fails to flip the Swanley-based machine. Rust in pieces, my friend. VulcansHowl 10:39, December 14, 2019 (UTC) Rusty was falling apart just by firing its flipper. That's not a very good sign of durability to me, at least. Wolverine's ramming should cause panels to break off and cause Rusty to eventually break down. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 12:46, December 14, 2019 (UTC)
Winner:

Little Fly vs Behemoth

Little Fly	Behemoth
Votes for Little Fly	Votes for Behemoth The unofficial second seeds start off with a relatively simple bulldozing and pitting of a Series 4 alsoran with a heat final under its belt. The House Robots will have fun destroying Little Fly after Behemoth has shoved it into every wall and hazard possible. Jimlaad43(talk) 00:46, December 14, 2019 (UTC) About damn time Behemoth finally arrived. The question is, will it escape the heat? My answer is a very sure "Yes", as it will bulldoze all in its path. Little Fly is the first victim in this heat, suffering the one-flip-and-done we all know and love. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 01:09, December 14, 2019 (UTC) And joining the one-roll-over-and-done-KO-from-Behemoth club is... NJGW (talk) 01:40, December 14, 2019 (UTC) Just don't put the grabber on this time, yeah? RA2; aka Resetti's Replicas. (My Talk) 02:39, December 14, 2019 (UTC) OK, knowing what robots are actually in this heat, there is absolutely NO way that Behemoth isn't making it through. CrashBash (talk) 05:13, December 14, 2019 (UTC) Flipped.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 09:34, December 14, 2019 (UTC) To Evo IX, Little Fly is just that… another little fly on the windscreen. VulcansHowl 10:39, December 14, 2019 (UTC) A battle between two Series 4 heat finalists who were one or two attacks away from winning their heat before narrowly dropping to the unfavoured machine. However, one is now reboot Behemoth and the other is Little Fly. TOAST 12:25, December 14, 2019 (UTC)
Winner:

Brawler vs Wheelosaurus

Brawler	Wheelosaurus
Votes for Brawler There is a decent number of trash tier robots getting out of Round 1 so far, I like it! Brawler takes on another TT robot in Wheelosaurus. Brawler just needs to spin on the spot and one whack with its bar will cause untold misery to Wheelosaurus. The blade won't get through the armour of Brawler, and the American bot can just push Wheelosaurus around until it's all done. Jimlaad43(talk) 00:46, December 14, 2019 (UTC) I'm so, so upset. NJGW (talk) 01:33, December 14, 2019 (UTC) Unless Wheelosaurus can pull off some reality-breaking Terror-Bull like in its Fantasy Fight with Stinger, it's kinda doomed here. CrashBash (talk) 05:13, December 14, 2019 (UTC) Unless Brawler breaks down, it'll sit and spin and batter poor Wheelosaurus.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 09:35, December 14, 2019 (UTC) It doesn’t matter if Wheelosaurus has the spinning blades from Series 4 or not. There is very little chance of it doing anything against a fast and ferocious sit-and-spinner from across the pond. VulcansHowl 10:39, December 14, 2019 (UTC) Did Jimlaad just imply Brawler is trash tier? It's a US Season 2 heat finalist... TOAST 12:27, December 14, 2019 (UTC) The pioneer of the torque reaction 'bot hasn't got much of an answer to Brawler, who will knock Wheelosaurus around the place and KO it after somehow hitting the engine. Also, was I the only one who thought Brawler only had one thwacking arm instead of two? --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 12:44, December 14, 2019 (UTC) I mean, Tyranabot and Darkness are also US Series 2 heat finalists so that doesn't really carry much weight (although I would also hesitate to call Brawler trash tier, it was decent for what it was). What does is the fact that Wheelosaurus fell apart basically on its own in both of its Series 4 battles, while Brawler at least tried to make attacks on its opponents and withstood pressure fairly well. Badnik96 (talk) 12:58, December 14, 2019 (UTC)	Votes for Wheelosaurus
Winner: