Votes for Knightmare
- Knightmare is not getting side-stranded. It's completely impossible, those handle-bars will prevent that, unless they end up getting seriously bent and this is "only" Series 4 after all. Anyway, Jim's vote has the right stance bar the side-stranding, which when removed takes out Judge Shred's main way of winning this fight. For what it's worth, whilst Knightmare often struggled to get under another robot, it was so continuously in the other robot's face I don't think that's an issue. CrashBash (talk) 09:20, April 12, 2020 (UTC)
- I don't think Knightmare can be side stranded, and since it runs either way up, Knightmare can keep the pressure on Judge Shred and not give up. Judge Shred for me on a Judges' Decision. Adster1005 09:39, April 12, 2020 (UTC)
- Neither robot will flip the other. Judge Shred 2 is too bulky for Knightmare to complete a flip, while the handle-bars as CrashBash mentioned will avoid Knightmare from getting side-stranded. I also do not really rate Judge Shred 2's axe, I mean a lot of people criticise X-Terminator 2's axe but how damaging was Judge Shred 2's really? Henceforth, this is down to a battle of ground clearance, pushing power and overall control. Considering that Knightmare was able to outwedge and outpush Spawn of Scutter at some point, I think it will have the edge here. It seems also more likely to wedge underneath the massive ground clearance of its foe, which will enable greater pushing from there. To me, Knightmare should win a fairly boring battle on aggression and control. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 10:02, April 12, 2020 (UTC)
- Has anyone else watched the latest Red Dwarf? I enjoyed it! Certainly there were some scenes that may me laugh uncontrollably, although the best scene I cannot give away because of spoilers. SpaceManiac888 (Talk) 10:08, April 12, 2020 (UTC)
- Loved it! It's strange to see something actually funny on modern TV.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 10:19, April 12, 2020 (UTC)
- Hate to say this, but the only Red Dwarf scene I've ever watched was the "White Cable" scene. CrashBash (talk) 10:25, April 12, 2020 (UTC)
- Having owned a cat for many years, the entirety of the Cats scenes were done so perfectly! Jimlaad43(talk) 10:38, April 12, 2020 (UTC)
- The Promised Land was the best thing to come out of Red Dwarf since at least Series X, maybe even since the original series, most enjoyable! Hogwild94 (talk) 17:34, April 13, 2020 (UTC)
- I do think Judge Shred is the better robot overall, yes, but Knightmare is the better equipped robot when it comes to these two fighting each other. It's fairly nimble, can turn around quickly and get underneath and push, and I just don't see Judge Shred managing a flip, not even a side stranding, Knightmare is stable enough to avoid that. Hogwild94 (talk) 17:57, April 12, 2020 (UTC)
- Honestly, I'm just more inclined to vote for Knightmare because it looks so much more effective at attacking other opponents. JS2 looked ponderous as anything and it lacked the ability to self-right reliably, so Knightmare can keep on JS2 to take the win on aggression. The good news is that JS2's massive size may prevent a one-flip-and-done from happening. --TheyCallMeDoot (*doot doot*) 15:35, April 13, 2020 (UTC)
- How do you make Bulldog Breed's Extreme mayhem less entertaining? Backdate it and remove the best robot. On balance I'd give it to Knightmare. To use basic logic, it can keep going if flipped whereas Judge Shred can't and it is slightly faster. Beyond that, you'd be looking for Judge Shred to outdrive and/or out-wedge Knightmare which I'm not sure it can. Also, The Promised Land was pretty good. Datovidny (talk) 17:49, April 13, 2020 (UTC)
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Votes for Judge Shred 2
- I feel like although Knightmare would do more in this fight, it's flipper setup is not strong enough to send the low and wide Judge Shred 2 over. Judge Shred's flipper only needs one attempt on Knightmare to get it stuck on its side, as I don't think it's flipper is strong enough to overturn Knightmare upside-down. For once, a not-so powerful flipper is actually helpful. Jimlaad43(talk) 08:47, April 12, 2020 (UTC)
- A really tough one that could go either way. I feel the addition of an axe to penetrate and hinder Knightmare could have a valid factor here. Also, the flipper could prevent Knightmare from getting underneath whilst also flipping away perhaps. A tough battle that WILL go to a judges I feel.Diotoir the son of nemesis (talk) 09:45, April 12, 2020 (UTC)
- Judge Shred 2 has the better weapon by a long way, and is generally just the better machine. I don't want to put a better combat record ahead of what seemed to quite clearly be the better robot. TOAST 12:00, April 12, 2020 (UTC)
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