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Heat C, and it's already looking like yet another brilliant series. Big names have fallen, there have been shocks and surprises, including victory for Aggrobot. But now, bring on eight more. Datovidny (talk) 13:35, November 4, 2013 (UTC)

Round 1

Spawn Again (5) vs Rick

Spawn Again	Rick
Votes for Spawn Again This could be a case of big robot vs slightly smaller version of the same robot. Spawn Again, size, speed and flipper power have this one. Datovidny (talk) 13:35, November 4, 2013 (UTC) No chance. Why do I keep thinking that Rick has a front-hinged flipper? Jimlaad43(talk) 13:40, November 4, 2013 (UTC) It does look like it has a front hinged flipper Jimlaad43. Sam (BAZINGA) 00:22, November 5, 2013 (UTC) I know, its just whenever I see it, I think it is front-hinged, and I get surprised when it opens the other way. Jimlaad43(talk) 08:03, November 5, 2013 (UTC) I suspect Spawn Again will last for long enough to be able to throw Rick out of the arena here. snowdog140 14:54, November 4, 2013 (UTC) Spawn Again is superior in pretty much every way, and I don't see what Rick will do here. Christophee (talk) 15:54, November 4, 2013 (UTC) Spawn Again's flipper is far better than Rick's, and the face spinner won't do much at all. Rick will probably survive (unless it goes OotA) but will lose by the judges. Combatwombat555 (talk) 16:12, November 4, 2013 (UTC) Damn- I like Rick, but I just don't see how it can beat Spawn Again, here. Whilst I usually believe in Strategy over simply overpowering your foe, the Fifth Seed has one over Rick in experience as well, and should have what it takes to launch it out. --GoldenFox93 (talk) 17:26, November 4, 2013 (UTC) Considering the reach Spawn Again's flipper has when it comes to flips out of the arena....no, I don't see Rick winning this one. CrashBash (talk) 17:48, November 4, 2013 (UTC) I don't actually think Rick will go out of the arena, and Rick might even get a lift at some point, but Spawn Again will be generally superior. ToastUltimatum 18:04, November 4, 2013 (UTC) Rick should've called the Hulk for help, Spawn will do the devil's work and oota Rick. Sam (BAZINGA) 18:55, November 4, 2013 (UTC) This will be a mighty fun fight, but there will be only one result. Maybe an OotA, but the judges will step in if not. MattTalk to me 19:26, November 4, 2013 (UTC) An easy win for the seeds here, not much I can say that hasn't been said already. BizarroKing (talk) 16:56, November 5, 2013 (UTC)	Votes for Rick
Winner: Spawn Again (5) (11-0)

PulverizeR vs Roobarb

PulverizeR	Roobarb
Votes for PulverizeR A full pressure flipper could probably flip PulverizeR into a daze a lot better, and stronger armour could probably render the disc useless. However, I just don't see it. Datovidny (talk) 13:35, November 4, 2013 (UTC) I'm not sure how well Roobarb could survive a strong flywheel like PulverizeR. (Does anyone else find the capital R really annoying?) Jimlaad43(talk) 13:42, November 4, 2013 (UTC) Tough one actually, because PulverizeR wasn't hugely fast so Roobarb could head it off and minimise damage, but I think damage is the main thing here, and PulverizeR should be able to deal enough of it to win on a Judges' Decision. snowdog140 14:54, November 4, 2013 (UTC) Assuming its weapon is fully operational, I think PulverizeR will cause just enough damage to win the judges' decision. Christophee (talk) 15:56, November 4, 2013 (UTC) Roobarb's one of those robots that I like for no real good reason, and I was hoping to see it do better, but PulverizeR is just too good. If the disc works, Roobarb could end up in a good few pieces. Combatwombat555 (talk) 16:14, November 4, 2013 (UTC) Whilst Roobarb could've taken this if the weapon on Pulveriser wasn't working like it was in its last appearance- it doesn't stand a chance with the disc actually going. With the thin armour and big flat back and sides in mind, Roobarb can only hope that the Saint Killalot Ambulance men will be there for it afterwards. --GoldenFox93 (talk) 17:31, November 4, 2013 (UTC) For some reason, I'm reminded of PulverizeR's battle with Scraptosaur...the second battle, that is. I think this'll be more or less the same. CrashBash (talk) 17:50, November 4, 2013 (UTC) I'm not reminded of PulverizeR vs. Scrap-2-Saur, because (off memory) I feel Scrap-2-Saur was winning until it broke down. Anyway, Roobarb's armour is quite poor, so PulverizeR can make a mess of it. ToastUltimatum 18:04, November 4, 2013 (UTC) Pulverizer will pulverize Roobarb. Roobarb crumble anyone? Sam (BAZINGA) 18:56, November 4, 2013 (UTC) Roobarb's armour looks like it can be buckled, and in that case, a hit on one wheel or both will render it immobile. MattTalk to me 19:26, November 4, 2013 (UTC) I'm sad that Roobarb is up against PulverizeR, I wanted it to at least make it to round 2, but this deadly disc isn't going anywhere now. BizarroKing (talk) 16:56, November 5, 2013 (UTC)	Votes for Roobarb
Winner: PulverizeR (11-0)

Corkscrew Two vs Mega Morg

Corkscrew Two	Mega Morg
Votes for Corkscrew Two Mega Morgs flipper was hardly Rohog Rhino's, let alone Gravity. Mega Morg will not be able to turn Corkscrew over. If the weapon works, Mega Morg will be shredded. If the weapon doesn't work, its not all over as we all know that Corkscrew could win battles without the spinner against experienced competitors. Jimlaad43(talk) 13:43, November 4, 2013 (UTC) I think weapon reliability is the name of the game here, but those sides look a bit suspect, certainly enough for Corkscrew Two to score some damage hits. It won't be much, not enough for a complete knockout, but Corkscrew Two through on a Judges' Decision. snowdog140 14:54, November 4, 2013 (UTC) I just don't see Mega Morg flipping Corkscrew Two, and even if it did that would hardly affect it. Corkscrew Two's weapon, if it works, could do some serious damage to Mega Morg, and if it doesn't- well, Corkscrew didn't spin in series 5 and it still reached the heat final. John Heatlie has experience of using it as just a rambot, and Mega Morg is hardly 13 Black or X-Terminator in terms of potentness. Corkscrew Two through by a knockout if it spins, on the judges if it doesn't. Combatwombat555 (talk) 16:21, November 4, 2013 (UTC) Honestly- with the weapon on Corkscrew Two working, Mega Morg doesn't stand a chance if it's anywhere near as powerful as the weapon on the original. It's invertible, so flipping will do nothing, and will in fact make the spinner lower to the ground and easier to hit the drivetrain. Scotland over Wales here, for me. --GoldenFox93 (talk) 17:42, November 4, 2013 (UTC) I'll be fine if Mega Morg does win, for I like it a lot, but I must go for Corkscrew Two. Contrary to popular belief, Corkscrew's weapon WAS working at the very start of its match, but it stopped working after it was flipped. I don't think Mega Morg will get a flip, due to the width of Corkscrew Two compared to the size of Mega Morg's flipper, and even if Corkscrew is overturned, it isn't being thrown like Judge Shred 3's flip. In theory then, Corkscrew Two will have a working weapon (which spins at 1000RPM, if that's any indication of its power), so Mega Morg should have some slices along the side. ToastUltimatum 18:04, November 4, 2013 (UTC) If we assume that Corkscrew Two worked in theory, then I think the choice is clear. Mega Morg had just enough flip power to upend a robot three times as tall as Corkscrew 2, plus it didn't have gyroscopic forces working against it. Those hinges on MM's flipper are right there for the taking, so while its body will probably survive the impact, it will likely be spending the match weaponless. RA2; aka Resetti's Replicas. (My Talk) 18:21, November 4, 2013 (UTC) I think Mega Morg will be cut up by the scot and the sheep will be roasted. Corkscrew on a judges decision. Sam (BAZINGA) 18:58, November 4, 2013 (UTC)	Votes for Mega Morg I imagine this'll be the closest battle of the round. Mega Morg's flipper was hardly Gravity's or Atomic's, but Corkscrew Two was small and light so probably easy to flick around. Corkscrew's disc didn't even work in the show, so that'll stop that. Even if it is working, its power and damage potential is unknown, and to be honest looking at it I bet Mega Morg could stand its ground against it well. Datovidny (talk) 13:35, November 4, 2013 (UTC) Come on, Mega Morg's flipper was surely better than Rohog's. While we're at it, Corkscrew Two's spinner was hardly Devastator, never mind the original Corkscrew. Mega Morg has this on aggression, throwing the undersized, underpowered spinner about. ManUCrazy (talk) 15:43, November 4, 2013 (UTC) This is really hard as we never saw Corkscrew Two's weapon work properly, so I don't know how much damage it would cause. I'll go for Mega Morg to throw Corkscrew around and win via the judges. Christophee (talk) 15:58, November 4, 2013 (UTC) OK, so, lets see...we're accepting that Mega Morg has a weak flipper, yet assuming Corkscrew has a really damaging spinner? To paraphrase an obscure internet meme - "profanity Logic, how does it work!?" Buuuut seriously, the sheer narrowness of Corkscrew's disc, plus the general bluntness of its teeth, don't exactly scream "damaging". Besides, Mega Morg managed to overturn Edge Hog, so it's not completely useless. I think it'll be able to flip or at least push Corkscrew around. CrashBash (talk) 17:47, November 4, 2013 (UTC) Mind you, flipping Edge Hog is not exactly an achievement in itself- considering how high its centre of gravity is and all. Just an observation. --GoldenFox93 (talk) 18:03, November 4, 2013 (UTC) I could say the same thing about flipping a lightweight robot like Corkscrew. I don't play the weight/gravity game, I'm afraid. CrashBash (talk) 18:20, November 4, 2013 (UTC) Without having seen Corkscrew 2 work, I can't form a proper judgement. Without that, I have to go with what I know, and what I know is that Mega Morg is competent. MattTalk to me 19:26, November 4, 2013 (UTC) If I recall Corkscrew Two's disc didn't work so I can't tell how powerful it would be. I have to say Mega Morg for the win via pushing power and flipping (even if it's not even close to being the best of lifters/flippers). BizarroKing (talk) 16:56, November 5, 2013 (UTC)
Winner: Corkscrew Two (7-6)

Ming Dienasty vs Devastator

Ming Dienasty	Devastator
Votes for Ming Dienasty I'd be lying if I said I wasn't happy with the draw here. I have said tournament after tournament, where Dienasty has fallen so early on, to "just wait for Audited 7", and here we are. Dienasty, now faced with a good benchmark, an average Round 1 drop-out in the Seventh Wars, and if you ask me, it has it. The disc on Devastator was hardly amazing on screen, and Dienasty had a tough shell. Devastator was hardly the quickest, and Dienasty could go at a fair whack. The drill could cause superficial damage, but Dienasty definitely has this on a judges' decision, assuming Devastator doesn't stop before the 5 minutes are up. Datovidny (talk) 13:35, November 4, 2013 (UTC) Neither weapon will do anything. Ming at least has decent pushing power, so should pull through to be victorious with a swift pitting. Jimlaad43(talk) 13:44, November 4, 2013 (UTC) Can't argue here I don't think. While neither had brilliant weapons Ming Dienasty certainly would win a pushing match, so would win a Decision on control and aggression. snowdog140 14:54, November 4, 2013 (UTC) The side brace saves Ming Dienasty here, otherwise I would have gone for Devastator attacking Ming's wheels. ManUCrazy (talk) 15:46, November 4, 2013 (UTC) I can't imagine this being an entertaining match, but Ming should win the judges' decision by shoving Devastator around. Christophee (talk) 16:00, November 4, 2013 (UTC) Neither robot's weapon was that potent, but Dienasty is faster, more powerful and more experienced, I think it'll manage to pit Devastator. Combatwombat555 (talk) 16:23, November 4, 2013 (UTC) Well, this one should make Datovidny happy! As good as Devastator was in the New Blood Championship, Ming Dienasty has the experience and agility to get around the disc and lift and drill it. I'm seeing it hooking onto the "mouth" of the disc with the end of the Drill, and perhaps pulling off a Big Cheese-esque lift and lower into the Pit stunt at the end. --GoldenFox93 (talk) 17:45, November 4, 2013 (UTC) Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Devastator was in the New Blood Championship? Combatwombat555 (talk) 17:50, November 4, 2013 (UTC) It wasn't. CrashBash (talk) 17:53, November 4, 2013 (UTC) Nope, but it was in the RW Wiki version- where it made the Grand Final. That's what I'm referring to. --GoldenFox93 (talk) 17:58, November 4, 2013 (UTC) Do you mean the Redemption Championship? Jimlaad43(talk) 18:01, November 4, 2013 (UTC) That's the one. --GoldenFox93 (talk) 18:03, November 4, 2013 (UTC) I'm going to be blunt here...this will be boring. Both robots, in terms of weaponary, are near enough useless. One has a largely ineffective spinning disc, the other has a drill, which pretty much automatically qualifies as ineffective. They're not going to damage each other at all. If any robot has an advantage, it'll be Ming, provided it raises its arm and goes for just pushing. After all, it is four-wheel drive as opposed to two, so in that stake it should have an advantage. If it can do that, it'll win...uneventfully, but a win all the same. CrashBash (talk) 17:53, November 4, 2013 (UTC) Devastator's the only robot in this heat that didn't reach a heat final or win a side competition, and while its side armour looks OK, the front and back should suffer at the hands of Ming's drill. ToastUltimatum 18:04, November 4, 2013 (UTC) I'm not toally convinced that a drill from Home Depot is going to break through a robot's shell, but I'm giving this to Ming because it's faster and has a wedge that complements Devastator's high clearance. RA2; aka Resetti's Replicas. (My Talk) 18:34, November 4, 2013 (UTC) Dienasty doesn't have a wedge, the sides are all tall and flat. Have you got it confused with Ming 3? Jimlaad43(talk) 18:39, November 4, 2013 (UTC) Right, it's not a wedge per se, but it is a gap for scooping up robots, and I think it has enough clearance to make it happen. RA2; aka Resetti's Replicas. (My Talk) 19:47, November 4, 2013 (UTC) Look at the picture again. It would struggle to get under Monad with that. Jimlaad43(talk) 19:58, November 4, 2013 (UTC) Ming DieNasty should be able to cause enough damage to win the judges decisions. Sam (BAZINGA) 19:00, November 4, 2013 (UTC) CB's right, this will be boring as hell. I would back Ming not on the back of its weapon, because lets face it neither of these of these machines have much weaponry, but its pushing power. Probably pitting for Devastator. MattTalk to me 19:26, November 4, 2013 (UTC) Ming's drill did look fairly powerful from the small amount I saw it so up against Devastator I'll give it to Ming. BizarroKing (talk) 16:56, November 5, 2013 (UTC)	Votes for Devastator I know I am in a minority here, but Devestator actually had an effective weapon that could cause damage, whereas Ming DieNasty had a drill. Whilst Ming was faster and more manoeouverable, Devestator can cause enough damage (even if it is superficial damage to the side brace) and score enough agression points to easily win a judges decision. Drop Zone mk2 (talk) 18:42, November 4, 2013 (UTC)
Winner: Ming Dienasty (13-1)

I'm saddened to see Mega Morg fall in Round 1. As for Dienasty, it may've got through, which I'm very pleased with, but let's face it, up against a mino Round 1 drop-out, with their still being arguments against it, and every user that voted for it starting by saying how boring the battle will be or how rubbish the drill is, that's the best it's ever going to get isn't it? Datovidny (talk) 14:31, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

Round 2

Spawn Again (5) vs PulverizeR

Spawn Again	PulverizeR
Votes for Spawn Again Really, this shouldn't be any different to Roobarb's battle, but Spawn Again was faster, so it would come at it harder, the flipper was more powerful, so dangerous flips are more likely, and its shape makes it slightly less prone to taking any damage from the disc. Datovidny (talk) 14:31, November 6, 2013 (UTC) Sadly, the Dutch champions fall here. Spawn Again was very powerful in Series 7 and should dominate this without taking much damage. Jimlaad43(talk) 14:36, November 6, 2013 (UTC) Joker may have Ko'd Spawn Again but that was a lucky hit. PulverizeR will be tossed around the arena, possibly out of the arena. Sam (BAZINGA) 15:08, November 6, 2013 (UTC) Spawn Again was very good at taking hits from spinners, as it proved against Hypno-Disc. Pulvy was highly uncontrollable , and its struggle to land a hit will be its undoing. RA2; aka Resetti's Replicas. (My Talk) 16:03, November 6, 2013 (UTC) Despite being mightily impressive in its Dutch performances, in the UK is just flopped. Spawn can absorb the hits, and throw PulverizeR around and about. MattTalk to me 17:05, November 6, 2013 (UTC) I was very tempted to vote for PulverizeR, but having just watched a couple of the fights it was in in the Dutch Wars, that disc wasn't as powerful as I thought it was, it didn't seem to do massive damage. It might get a few hits in, but Spawn Again will get enough flips in to win on aggression. Combatwombat555 (talk) 17:20, November 6, 2013 (UTC) A tough draw for Pulveriser after such a good performance in Round 1, but Spawn Again will just be too good for it here. It'll absorb any hits the Dutch Champions land with the disc, before lining them up to catapult them out- on the bright side, I guess Rick will be having a friend joining it outside the Arena. --GoldenFox93 (talk) 17:41, November 6, 2013 (UTC) Rick and PulverizeR will have a third friend when Ming of Corkscrew flies out of the arena. Sam (BAZINGA) 18:05, November 6, 2013 (UTC) Aye. Perhaps if it's Corkscrew Two who wins this Round and goes on to fight Spawn Again, they could all have a few commiseration shots of Whisky afterwards. :P --GoldenFox93 (talk) 18:07, November 6, 2013 (UTC) Losing won't seem so bad then. Drinks are on Corkscrew. Sam (BAZINGA) 18:37, November 6, 2013 (UTC) It's been great having PulverizeR in the UK Championship, but it will be completely outclassed here. I imagine it will end up OotA. Christophee (talk) 20:24, November 6, 2013 (UTC)	Votes for PulverizeR This is actually a simple PulverizeR win for me. PulverizeR's a cylinder, so the broad flipper of Spawn Again will struggle to get a flip with decent height. Generally, Spawn Again's first few flips were its best, so I simply do not see PulverizeR going out of the arena. Being simply flipped over doesn't faze it either. PulverizeR can just hit the big Spawn Again and cause some damage. The other problem for me is that Spawn Again needs a controlled effort to beat an invertible flywheel, and it never demonstrated that level of control. Spawn Again has been on the back foot against robots it should beat easily, like R.O.C.S. and Spam. While PulverizeR isn't a Supernova in power, we know that Supernova made an absolute mess of Spawn Again in Series 6, and Spawn Again was far from the peak of reliability anyway. I do not see this going any other way. ToastUltimatum 21:07, November 6, 2013 (UTC)
TBD

Corkscrew Two vs Ming Dienasty

Corkscrew Two	Ming Dienasty
Votes for Corkscrew Two I want Ming Dienasty to succeed, I really do, but I do not think this will be its day. Corkscrew's spinner is going to rip that drill right off, and even if Ming is well-armoured, just what can it do? If it tries to ram Corkscrew, it just gets swatted away. Hell, if Corkscrew enters the arena upside down, it would probably be low enough to get under the wheel guards and slash those wheels. Perhaps I'm reaching with that tactics theory, but I don't think John Heatlie designed it that way by accident. RA2; aka Resetti's Replicas. (My Talk) 16:01, November 6, 2013 (UTC) As much as I'd like to back Dienasty, if Corkscrew Two can beat Mega Morg, it can probably beat Ming here. Corkscrew Two's weapon looks pretty punishing if it spins: granted it looks blunt, but that's probably the point, I think it's not supposed to do cutting damage rather than, well, Corkscrew damage. If Dienasty charges, it'll take damage and not give any in return. Corkscrew wins the judges' decision on damage. Combatwombat555 (talk) 17:11, November 6, 2013 (UTC) Quite how so many people can support a Homebase Drill over a solid and invertible Spinner is beyond me. Nevertheless, I'm still going to give Corkscrew Two the edge here. The drill will do precious little to it due to the armour being protected by the size of the disc, and if Corkscrew Two focusses its attacks on that to start with, it should be able to break it. After that, it should simply be a case of the Scots attacking the wheels and the chassis to score the KO on damage. --GoldenFox93 (talk) 17:45, November 6, 2013 (UTC) If you read my vote, you will see that it has nothing to do will the drill causing damage. I also think the drill is terrible and outdated. Jimlaad43(talk) 18:02, November 6, 2013 (UTC) Damn, I thought you'd also voted for Corkscrew Two earlier. Shame. Even then, I still think that the Scots will do it. Even though Datovidny's probably going to murder me in my sleep for saying this, I personally think Ming Dienasty's overrated. I always preferred Ming 2 and 3, myself. --GoldenFox93 (talk) 19:32, November 6, 2013 (UTC) Ming 2 is the best Ming machine, and 3 is a little bit better than Dienasty, but it isn't a terrible robot. Jimlaad43(talk) 19:59, November 6, 2013 (UTC) Agreed. Of all of them- Ming 2 was the best, Ming 3 was good, and Ming Dienasty was OK too, but the less said about the first one, the better. --GoldenFox93 (talk) 20:13, November 6, 2013 (UTC) Last round I voted against Corkscrew Two mainly because I didn't know how good its weapon was, but I also saw a way in which Mega Morg would be able to beat it. Ming Dienasty just isn't going to do much, and if Corkscrew's weapon is remotely decent, then Ming will be deflected away whenever it tries to push. I say Corkscrew will take this on a judges' decision. Christophee (talk) 20:35, November 6, 2013 (UTC)	Votes for Ming Dienasty Given Dienasty's support in the last round, and Corkscrew's support in this round, I can already see where this is going. However, I maintain that Dienasty can do this. Even if, and that is a big IF, Corkscrew's blade is working, and IF it really is destructive, it won't matter too much, Dienasty was built to resist fierce attacks from harsh knocks and spinners. The spinner will do nothing here, and Dienasty can use any pushing power it's able to utilise to push around the tiny Corkscrew. The drill could cause marks on the top just as the disc will only be able to leave a few scratches. Again, Dienasty for the win on a judges' decision, not that it will. Datovidny (talk) 14:31, November 6, 2013 (UTC) Dienasty is strongly armoured. If the weapon on Corkscrew works, it won't have such an effect on Ming than on Mega Morg. The height of the disc means that Ming could slot the dropped front underneath and trap Corkscrew with the drill, before shoving it down the pit. Jimlaad43(talk) 14:38, November 6, 2013 (UTC) Pity, because I think Mega Morg could have put up a more interesting fight and might even have won...besides, who wouldn't want to continue a minor rivalry? Buuut I stand by my statements on Corkscrew earlier. Even if it does spin, that blade looks so thin and the teeth so small and blunt, I can't see it doing anything. Still hardly interesting, though. Oh, BTW...I know there were arguments for Corkscrew being used as a rambot if its spinner wasn't working. All very well, but that was Corkscrew One, which had a flat surface to its weapon. Corkscrew Two, with its weapon being as is, doesn't look like it would have that luxury, I'm afraid. CrashBash (talk) 14:43, November 6, 2013 (UTC) Shame that the scot was drawn against Flash's rival but Ming will dominate the scot and pit it. Sam (BAZINGA) 15:09, November 6, 2013 (UTC) Au contraire David. I'm also backing Ming, continuing my logic from the previous round. Corkscrew's weapon didn't work, so I am unable to efficiently judge it. MattTalk to me 17:05, November 6, 2013 (UTC) I've been waiting all day to post my thoughts, and all that time, I was thinking Corkscrew Two, as Ming's wheels appear to be vulnerable. I would've been pleased to see Corkscrew Two in the heat final, as I think it's potentially an underrated robot, but it would've also hurt me to take away the Ming Dienasty heat final that Datovidny has pretty much waited his entire life for. I've had a long think about this one, and now that I think about it, Corkscrew Two's top does look weak, and Ming Dienasty could press on top of it. Ming Dienasty also has the pushing advantage, and if it can keep the wheels safe, it should stay safe from damage. Good grief, Ming Dienasty could be seeded in Series 8! ToastUltimatum 21:07, November 6, 2013 (UTC) Everyone is making fair points, but I think Ming Dienasty has that pushing power. The drill is unlikely to do anything, but some decent driving and pushes in the right direction can either score a win with a House Robot assist, or enough aggression and control points to see it through. snowdog140 22:32, November 6, 2013 (UTC)
TBD