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Good choice to represent Russia, Weber is perhaps their best robot. OkamiFan1 15:50, December 20, 2017 (UTC)

Loanerbot Edit

If Michael Mauldin's words are to be believed, the Weber we saw in Episode 2 might have been yet another loanerbot! According to him, Weber Robotics brought along the exoskeleton and flipper of their own machine and attached them to Robo Challenge's flipper bot - the layout of which I presume belongs to what used to be Interstellar MML. I plan to contact Weber Robotics about this later this week - if they confirm it to be the case, then I'd say that they did an especially fantastic job with the conversion to the World Series Weber. VulcansHowl 12:31, January 9, 2018 (UTC)

I believe the footage used Stephen McCulla indicates that the robot used is the original robot. --WolfwingandSlaveLeia (talk) 17:52, January 9, 2018 (UTC)
On second thoughts, I'm not too sure that the information Mauldin gave on that podcast was entirely reliable. I noticed that Weber's wheels were spread further apart in the World Series than they normally are, but realised through looking at shots of it getting flipped again that there wouldn't have been much hope of grafting its exoskeleton onto Interstellar's chassis without making compromises to its structural integrity. Still, I will investigate. VulcansHowl 19:40, January 9, 2018 (UTC)
You should get a reply quite quickly, Weber Robotics were very good about replying to me through email, which you can find on their website. TOAST, FLIPPER 00:10, January 10, 2018 (UTC)
Weber vs Concussion

Compare Weber's back panel and motor mounts...

Interstellar vs the cat

...to those of Interstellar MML

Weber rear

The rear of Weber with its original wheel spacings and no extra armour

I contacted Weber Robotics last night through their Facebook page; although they didn't specifically refer to what form Weber took in the World Series, they did offer an interesting reason as to why it adopted a Beast-like exoskeleton for armour:
"The Weber robot was created for battles in Russia, and under the terms of the regulations it was forbidden to use sheet steel. This condition was for entertainment. It was allowed to use only pipes of square or round cross-section. The rest of the team plated the Robots with plastic, we did not do it and came up with a design. As far as participating in different leagues, the robot began to be sheathed with armor plates."
— Weber Robotics (translated from original Russian)
In that case, it seems like the extra armour added for the World Series was a special-specific modification. That being said, comparing images of Weber's original and World Series forms to our one of Interstellar MML's rear does seem to suggest that it at least adopted drive motors similar to those used by the Robo Challenge loanerbots. Hmm... VulcansHowl 08:57, January 10, 2018 (UTC)
I did notice that Weber in the World Series was only 70kg, compared to its 90kg weight listed on the team's website. It might still be worth dropping them an email. TOAST, FLIPPER 14:19, January 10, 2018 (UTC)
Toast, I think the Weber team changed the sides, the tyres, they removed the spikes and seem to have changed the hubs, although I'm not sure if this would total 20 kg. Alternatively it could be an error. --WolfwingandSlaveLeia (talk) 17:38, January 10, 2018 (UTC)

I do think this would be good to investigate. We have two conflicting stories, and points for both sides. I think the pictures of the wheel/motor spacings, as well as Michaels words on "Weber choosing the flipper loanerbot" as decent evidence, but i think asking the team themselves will answer it once and for all. ToonRaiderStudios (talk)

I emailed Weber Robotics earlier this morning; Alan Gubiev has replied to me confirming that it was the original Weber with which they entered:
"The matter is that when we participated in RW, we have taken our robot in luggage with us on plane. ( RW were not covering shipment cost for the proper custom clearance.) That is why we brought it in sutecases [sic] disassembled and welded onsite at RW. During the assembly we decided to protect wheels with additional shielding, that is how our current look in the international series came from. Later already in Moscow we decide to change wheels and add full protection."
— Weber Robotics
So, the modifications carried out for the World Series effectively resulted in Weber adopting the side and rear armour it would later gain in domestic live events. Glad to have had official confirmation on this matter. VulcansHowl 13:02, January 11, 2018 (UTC)
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